#sorry for the rant… it’s just annoying how white fandoms can feel

[dulcewrites]

[darklinaforever]

I want to say this as a black women who is not a part of the LGBT community but has been in fandom for a long time and would love to be a writer. When anyone tackles diversity, they should try their best and hope to be genuine about it. Because no matter what someone does, they will always have someone who hates it. I have adored Bridgerton, it has been fun to see a variety of women and men who aren't just white be love interests and get to wear beautiful gowns. I love that Bridgerton doesn't dive too heavily into the racism aspect. Yet, one of the many criticisms Bridgerton has is that people believe it to be akin to revisionist history. Many don't like it because they feel like taking away racism is an insult to those who suffered in the past. Some are fine with it but prefer racism was never addressed (i.e. "love conquers all"). But if Bridgerton decided that they wanted to be historically accurate and make it that the servants are black and for characters to mention the trans-Atlantic slave trade, people would've been upset as well. People would've mentioned that they no longer want to see trauma porn of BIPOC characters. Which I understand because I've been enjoying more happy and fun representation tbh.

I mean I can go on about the ways diversity in general and how it should be treated causes so much issues within so many BIPOC communities. What one person wants for diversity, is not going to be what another person wants.

The point is, I feel for book fans with the whole Michael/Michaela change. People are acting weird about how this whole thing is "no big deal" but people want what they want. Also, many people, like all humans, tend to be hypocritical. The amount of people who are part of the BIPOC community who didn't necessarily like that race wasn't being discussed (like I wrote in the long essay above), are some of the same people who are cheering on this Michael(a) situation. One of them being a friend of mine where I had to remind her that book fans are allowed to be upset. Besides, didn't she spend all of S1&2 harking about how this show would be more interesting if they addressed race and hated how it was revisionist history? A little contradictory to suddenly hate on others for a change that by her logic (and some others) she wouldn't have supported because it is revisionist history.

Sorry for the rant. It might not make sense, but diversity always gets me heated. I think it is important but people fail to just disucss with nuance and understanding that no everyone is going to think diversity should look the same and that is OKAY.

And that is me saying it as a black fan who have been annoyed by fans who've been saying that Bridgerton isn't diverse enough because there aren't enough black characters. Completely ignoring the non-black characters count as diversity as well. Before the rumors of Sophie possibly being Masala, I saw a lot of fans who originally wished for Sophie to be east asian and were sending hate to them for that because Kate being from Asia was enough representation.

Idk, diversity really has people's worst sides coming out of them.

[mintartem]

Dear hazbin hotel fandom

Some of you bitches are ANNOYING AS HELL. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HATE CHARLIE OK SHE ANNOYED ME TOO BUT DAMMIT WE GOT ADAM STAN WHO IS A GENOCIDE APOLOGIST. YES ADAM CAN BE MORE COMPLEX CHARACTER HOWEVER HE STILL COMMIT GENOCIDE AND CHARLIE IS THE ONLY CHARACTER WHO BOTHER TRYING TO STOP HIM. YES LUCIFER WAS WRONG YES LILITH WAS WRONG EVE WAS WRONG TOO BUT DAMMIT YOU BABYFIFY HIM JUST LIKE OTHERS BABYFIFY LUCIFER. THIS FANDOM IS SEXIST THIS PEOPLE QUICK TO DEMONIZE CHARLIE LILITH VAGGIE MIMZY ETC

mintartem sorry for the ranting this is my frustration. Hazbin hotel meant to have nuanced and it fail to do that of course, but we as part of fandom can add that nuance to our fanfic AU fanart etc

It’s alright anon. You’re frustrated and with good reason.

I agree with you. I’ve seen some terrible takes about Charlie. I actually do like Charlie despite disagreeing with some of her opinions. I just wish she was handled better in the show’s writing. There still hope for season 2.

Now regarding Adam, I’ll admit, I do tend to babify him. But I also don’t condone his genocidal actions and I disagree with his black and white belief. Narrative wise, Heaven sees it as a necessary evil and that’s how I see it too. I saw some fans claim that it is deserve and some fans argue that it isn’t. There’s no justifying genocide. Period. Adam should be humbled down, (hence why I love sinner Adam theories and takes that does punish him.)

The fandom being sexist, I think that it stems from the show since it didn’t handle the female characters that well. Immediately demonizing Lilith though, that I 100% agree with you. We know nothing about her so seeing takes that just hates her just feels so wrong to me. In fanfiction? Completely fine. In AUs? It’s A-okay. Fanarts? Do your thing and go wild! But absolutely hating her just because that’s how you saw it? Hating people who didn’t agree with your “Lilith is evil” opinion? You need to touch some grass. Talk face-to-face with other people. Be patient and get to know the character before hating them first.

That’s where the beauty of fanfic, fanarts, and others come in. We add more to the things we like.

[dlartistanon]

Oh man cis anti bros ruined Arknights for me. I tried it out because I also liked another gacha (path to nowhere) which has a huge WLW fandom, way bigger than the dudes. So wishing for more of that I tried arknights.

The Arknights fandom is not girl friendly imho.

The doctor is supposed to be a gender neutral short person with according to some media long hair and according to the anime a female/gender neutral voice.

But the fandom made it a tall buff dude that’s going to repopulate all kinds of different species with their many waifus and ignoring character-character relationships.

Sorry for my rant, but boi was a seriously disappointed when I found that out.

I'm sorry to hear that. I don't play PTN, but I have friends who do, and one of the things they said about it really stuck with me, regarding how both player characters are written (Chief and Doctor).

According to them, Chief has more of an actual defined personality compared to Doctor. Chief is their own character within the setting. While Chief is established, Doctor is in this weird nebulous gray zone of being half-established and half-self-insert. And that is honestly one of the most frustrating things about AK's writing.

On one hand, I like the canonical lore of Doctor: their parental relationship with Amiya, their awkward, sometimes hostile dynamic with Kal'tsit, their lingering feelings of depression and detachment surrounding their amnesia, their implied autism, their gender neutrality, they're physically weak (easily winded going up/down the stairs), sensitive to sunlight, their observational skills, their fondness towards physical contact, their extremely negative reaction towards child soldiers, their academic background in neurology/history... they're a weirdo who pours hot water directly into their mouth.

But all that ends up being half-baked when the devs say that Doctor is meant to represent the player. And I just don't like that. It's a giant reminder of self-insertion, but again, incredibly weird when they have all this lore/characterization?

Look at this image:

This concept is speculated to be a somewhat of a "canon" design for Doctor. Quite feminine-looking, wouldn't you say so? Interestingly enough, no similar art of a "male" Doctor design has surfaced anywhere to my knowledge. The closest is in the art book but their face is covered in shadow and their hairstyle is a lot like Thorns'. The anime adaptation Prelude to Dawn adds to the mix by making Doctor 165 cm tall, with white hair, pale eyes, and an androgynous voice (by a female VA).

All of this ends up making the claim that Doctor is a self-insert very wishy-washy. You can't really claim Doctor as canonically nonbinary if the player chooses to see/interpret them as male or female. Because they're a self-insert. But are they really? By giving Doctor more lore/characterization, how can the claim of them being a self-insert hold up? It doesn't make sense.

It's incredibly frustrating how HG wants to have both cakes, but it doesn't work. So the result ends up feeling incredibly half-baked, fumbling both sides. At this point, there's no real and true illusion of player insertion.

It just annoys me the more I think about it. I don't want Doctor to be any % self-insert. I want them to be an actual established character.

But I apologize for going off on my own tangent. I absolutely hate how the Doctor is largely portrayed in fandom too. The automatic default to reading them as male (people can claim "gender neutral", but a lot of the time the actual portrayal/writing really comes off like a cis dude). The mischaracterization and overall gross treatment of complex female characters who have layered and nuanced relationships with other female characters. You're not alone there. I think it's amazing how the PtN fandom has more Female Chief than Male, and how much more popular WLW is. You're lucky.

[bohemian-nights]

If nettles was a white girl like Alys, dumbyra fans wouldn’t say shit. Look at laena and daemon regardless of them being married in the books they hated the fact of them being together in the show and how they did there relationship was disgusting. I was really irked on how daemon and Rhaenyra had sex in the most disrespectful way like Laena was just laid to rest and she found if a way to get with her uncle!! Then disappeared for 6 years from court and act’s surprised that the hightowers and vaemond are plotting against them like YOU’VE DONE NOTHING BUT POP OUT BABIES FOR THE PAST 6 YEARS!!!!! I can’t stress how much I hate the whole Daemon loves Rhaenyra more than anything, if he loves her sooo much why did he do the following

1) steal her dead baby brother’s egg

2)called himself the “rightful heir” to the throne after she was named heir

3)called her dead brother “heir for a day”

4) left her to fight in the stepstones and ignored her for years

5) almost ruined her reputation by taking her to a brothel

6)left her alone at night in the most dangerous place in kings landing

7)left her again during her wedding where she almost got trampled

8)undermines her during the plot to take kings landing

9) ignores her calls during her labor

10) ignores her call to come back to kings landing

11) he literally chokes her when he finds out that Viserys never thought of him as heir

Like they gaslight themselves into believing that this is okay, it’s not

Now I do understand the age difference between nettles and daemon is very important she’s 17 and he’s 49 but I think that they are more healthier relationship. I feel that nettles is more patient with daemon and they have better communication, she’s not afraid to tell daemon like “hey you do realize that this is fucked up” and he grows more as a person with her. Nettles isn’t spoiled and doesn’t like to be spoiled much and daemon likes that. Rhaenyra can act like a baby sometimes and it annoys him when she gets like that.

Sorry for the big rant but I know when nettles is casted and when we see her actor she’s gonna get hate from people WHO SHIP AN UNCLE WHO GROOMED HIS FUCKING NIECE. I’m going to war for my girl Nettles.

This wasn’t a rant, this was a read👏🏽 I honestly think that if Nettles were white(hell if she were actually non-Black like how they try to insist she is because they don’t want a Negro with Daemon) then a good portion of these racist stans would have jumped ship already.

Dumbnyra has always been a disaster of a ship(in the show and the books which 99% weren’t shipping this trash until said show).

There were glaring red flags from the get-go (the 1st “romantic moment” Rhaenyra is underage), but because they are self-inserting (this includes the weirdo self-haters who are fine with throwing other “WOC” under the bus to live out their Aryan obey me or I’ll nuke you fantasies) into her and can’t relate to anyone who isn’t white they are holding onto this Titanic of a ship for dear life.

I'm glad you mentioned Alys. People may hate her now, but the moment she shows up on screen and interacts with Aemond I can guarantee that most of that hate(which is mostly from Hellmann's shippers who only like their insane crackship that they pretend is canon because it’s a self insert ship) will fade away.

With Alys there, who’s also white and is Aemond’s actual love interest, Helaena won’t be needed anymore. So they’ll drop her faster than a hot cake, do a 180, say who’s Helaena, and ole girl will become the new self-insert.

That’s not going to be the case for Nettles(and yeah sadly her actress is going to get a lot of hate so prayers to her).

If you guys don’t believe us literally go pull up any fandom with a Black woman as a love interest and see the bullsh*t and excuses that are written.

Every single time the actresses get verbally attacked(they get called literal racial slurs see Candice Patton-The Flash), the showrunners do them, and their characters(Kat Graham-Vampire Diaries and Nicole Beharie-Sleepy Hollow), the fans of said characters and ships get attacked(this fandom is already starting it), and there are a million and one think pieces on how her character “doesn’t need a man” or how the ship she’s in isn’t “good for her”(all while these same people excuse actual abusive relationships like Dumbnyra).

People always say oh it isn’t about race it’s actually about xyz, but if every time you are complaining when you see a Black woman as the love interest, yeah it’s about race🤷🏽‍♀️ You guys don’t like seeing Black women in romantic relationships especially with your faves. It’s the same song and dance and now they are doing it with Nettles under the guise of “caring.”

If you ship Dumbnyra(and I’ve seen several of these shippers drawing art that’s supposed to be romantic where Rhaenyra is a literal child) and then fix your mouth to say Daemon and Nettles relationship is somehow bad for Nettles and that people promoting it want Netty to be abused (translation: I don’t want my self insert to be left for a Black girl, but I can’t come out and say that so I’ll just pretend to care about this Black girl when I’m actually cheering on for her to be axed or played by a white woman, yes I’ve seen some of these ignorant people want Nettles to be white because the Velaryons were made Black🙃).

The dynamic between Daemon and Nettles isn’t anything like Daemon and Rhaenyra. The only thing they’ve got in common is that Nettles is young and even then she’s technically an adult and she’s probably going to be aged up to be Laena’s book age in the show. The moment that happens they’ll find some new excuse(I don’t want Nettles to look like a ho knowing damn well their self insert was out their chasing after a freshly widowed man and they cheered it on) why Daemon and Nettles shouldn’t happen.

Yeah, they did have a much healthier relationship and Daemon grows from his time with her(something he never did with Rhaenyra). He grows enough to put her ahead of everyone including his wife’s rule and his own safety(which is what Nettles deserves), but we are lost in the sauce. 100% it’s protect Nettles over here 🙌🏽

[gumdefense]

please get into your aa2 rant i beg

Oh thank god someone (idk if it’s rude to tag ? Or to not tag ?) reblogged that post from me saying some great stuff and also saying to go into my aa2 rant and I didn’t know how to reply, like do I reblog from them again, but then that might annoy the op, or do I make a post and tag them but then that might be weird— I don’t understand tumblr etiquette. Even though I’ve been here for years. But yeah whether you are that person in which case hi !! Or another person in which case also hi !! Thanks you solved my problem

How do I start. Basically, I don’t agree with a lot of the fanon surrounding Edgeworth’s "death", mostly in the way that it’s basically all about Phoenix. When the fandom talks about how evil and terrible Edgeworth was for that, I mostly just see Phoenix being brought up, when to me it’s a lost worse for Franziska. To her, her brother disappeared because of what her father did and after learning he used similar tactics as him (the tactics they must have been taught), deciding to kill the prosecutor in him (a major part of their identity and their relationship), abandoning her again, something that is a huge issue for her (aai2 spoilers under the cut)

Her world is in prosecution, their family is in prosecution, and as far as I remember she has issues over Edgeworth leaving her behind to pursue his career at 20, though I can’t remember when that’s discussed, I hope it’s not fanon blending into canon in my memory. What I’m trying to say is, Edgeworth’s fake death had a huge and deep impact on her, and is a very important step in her character

Anyway in short, I find it disappointing ig that most discussion of the repercussions of Edgeworth’s absence is about how Phoenix is so sad his boyfriend is gone and rarely ever about her. General issue across all fandoms to obsess over a male character and leave a female character behind. I go more into the Phoenix stuff under the cut bc I also have a rant about that and I’ve started and I can’t shut up now lol. Tldr Phoenix is deeply flawed and I love him for it and I wish we talked more about his flaws

I mean this is how she reacts when Edgeworth gives up his badge

I sound very negative of Phoenix’s part in this lol— I’m not, how it affects Phoenix is SO important, which is something I’m very passionate about and is… another thing I mostly disagree common fanon with sorry. Phoenix feels very much like the fandom golden boy in a way ? He’s our perfect little guy who has never done anything wrong. And yeah he is my perfect little guy who has never done anything wrong, but actually no he’s my really imperfect little guy who has definitely done wrong

Aa2 is the game that made me fall in love with him, because of how it goes into his flaws. He can be a dick who lashes out, he can be really bitter and angry, and his idea of justice is/was incredibly black and white. I find Phoenix’s character writing in aa2 just brilliant and it saddens me that it gets reduced to "he was really sad about edgeworth". I mean he was and it’s a massive part of his character writing but I don’t see much discussion on the character part beyond the saviour complex thing. Which is great but Justice for All is about, you know. Justice for all. It’s not perfect, I wish the concept of guilty clients was explored more afterwards beyond evilest man alive Matt engarde, the closest we get is aa4 with clients that are guilty of other crimes but still deserve proper defense instead of being dismissed, but I’m getting off topic. Phoenix’s black and white thinking being challenged and him learning he was wrong is so important, but I feel like we’re allergic to discussing the negative parts of Phoenix or something ? Like I said he’s the fandom golden boy. And I get why but the parts of him that suck are the parts that made me adore him and ig I’m disappointed it’s rarely acknowledged or analysed so he can remain our perfect little boy who’s just obsessed with his school crush. Sorry to be such a negative Nancy lol but yeah. Phoenix is such a well rounded deeply flawed character, aa2 has such great writing and so worth analysing, but like all fandoms we have "shipping first and foremost" on the brain

ALSO. Phoenix and Franziska’s arcs are so intertwined the Parallels how they’re both representative of different types of idealism and what loss can do to you and yet are also so similar. They’re soooo aahnnbgbgngcjkn. I’ll just put these here again. Thank you Acro for understanding them

For the record I’m not saying analysis through ship is bad, or that shipping is bad, if you’ve seen my blog at all you’ve seen lots of ship stuff— I just have a general tiredness of ships being the main focus of everything ig lol. I’m stopping now it’s 2am and I can tell this has gone into completely incoherent rambling, I hope this made sense and was fun to read !

[spaceorphan18]

I think I'm losing my mind. I was on reddit and I uninstall that yesterday cause of glee subreddit(if you don't know what is glee subreddit, there is a social media app called reddit where people of common interest or region can get together and discuss on topics posted) . So the glee reddit is kinda annoying. As far as what I've observed , that reddit has more of brittana fans and they kept bashing klaine.

The funny thing is that they hate klaine for the same reason they love brittana. Well hate and love is one's feeling. But I don't know if this particular incident triggered me. Someone was as usual bashing on klaine in a klaine Christmas celebration post. Not a hate post. So I got into a heated argument. Then there was a DM that a person accused me of lifting lines from other peoples fic to mine. And they blocked.

The thing is this fandom is not so young. Meaning you would have fics on almost all genres with similar kinda writing. I am just pissed that person accused me without any proof. Not just that.

There is this another person, who is on tumblr too. They say that they love Kurt but they said what Kurt did to get back to klaine relationship was cringey. I asked what made him cringey cause he didn't do much to get into relationship. It was all sue. And they just typed "stfu" get as spontaneously as they can.

Now what broke the camels back was I put a misinterpreted statement on another post. And I didn't know one of Rachel's dad in s3 was black but not as black as what they showed in the s1. Someone explained that the actor Brian stokes was mixed ,has black ethnicity and had lighter colour than the dude shown in s1. I agreed and I said that was my point and oh my god,the downvotes.

I just said call me racist if you want,I don't care and there is this person who called me stfu came up,called me annoying and I need help. I just cited that they have less temper and I don't need a psychology lesson from them and the person just bitched and said to seek professional help.

I don't know why I am ranting to you. I'm so sorry. I just want someone to talk me through this. This keeps pissing me off.

Hey dear! No, it's fine - sometimes it's just easier to write it all out and just let yourself feel all the things. And it's totally fine.

I'm sorry for all the crap you've been going through! It's rough when fandom does not feel like the fun place you want it to be.

I am aware of reddit and have never really been a fan. I've heard the Glee fandom on there is pretty terrible in general, so I've always avoided it. It's hard, sometimes, when there doesn't feel like a lot of places to go -- especially when the fandom has very much faded and dwindled. But my best advice is to always step away from the places that make you angry.

(It can be hard, I know! When I first joined tumblr, I think I followed people I didn't really like mostly because I felt like I /needed/ to hear their wrong take. It took me a while to figure out that it was better mentally to not engage at all.)

There are also a lot of people who would rather revel in their hate of a thing than rejoice in their enjoyment. There have been psychological studies about how anger brings people together more than love. (Interestingly, I remember a long time ago there used to be a forum for Chris fans and the biggest, most trafficked thread was about hating Darren.)

I think the other unfortunate thing so often in fandoms is that people only really want to hear what they want to hear and be validated that their opinion is the /right/ one instead of listening to what other people have to say and respecting that some people don't respond to the same things you do. It's unfortunate that things become black and white and lines need to be drawn, but alas, the internet (and humans) have always been tribal like this.

Meanwhile, the best thing I can say is just enjoy the thing you like. These people are just going to be assholes whether you engage with them or not, so why give them a platform? Your mental health is worth more than their time - so give yourself a break.

You're welcome to come chat with me any time. :)

<3

[v-arbellanaris]

Hey I saw your Sera ask earlier and I def agree with what you said, I can definitely understand why Sera does what she does and why she feels a certain way. What frustrates me is that of the two elven companions we get in DAI, they're both so incredibly dismissive of the Dalish, with Sera's issues and Solas' smug "oooo the Dalish are so silly for daring to try to reclaim their heritage im so much smarter than them lol" and like comparing that to irl indigenous groups trying to reclaim their heritage after centuries of colonization, and having the Dalish be relentlessly mocked for trying to do the same without a shred of nuance is just such bad writing. Actually all of the companions dumb throwaway lines about how the Dalish are "Just as bad" drive me up the fucking wall. Also there's no way to gently challenge Sera on her beliefs, its either "I agree completely with you" OR "youre crazy and make no sense" like I'm all for maladjusted characters but let me help them and actually watch them grow and change for the better!! Anyways sorry to rant, you don't have to respond if you're not up to it, but Sera had such potential but her bad writing and other examples of bad writing for the Dalish overall just irritates me lol.

no i absolutely agree but i feel like these are two separate issues when it comes to sera. there's a faction of fandom who find her annoying - which is fine, but instead of just... saying that... i suppose to dodge accusations of lesbophobia or something? people often criticise her writing for flaws that it doesn't actually have.

some flaws her writing does have (not an exhaustive list):

lack of alternative perspectives. as you mentioned, both the elven characters in the party care little about or for the struggles of dalish elves or city elves (sera generally focuses on class and ignores the intersection between class and race entirely).

inability to respectfully engage and challenge her ideas, without calling her insane/crazy/or otherwise being ableist

her reduction of characters' gender to their genitalia/transphobia

lack of clarity for her character's background, motives and arc (which as i've said, i think is the direct result of sera being white in-game; her character point of internalised racism would be easy dots to connect if she was a person of colour).

antiblackness - specifically towards vivienne.

but then there's other criticisms which just don't really seem like writing flaws to me. sera's story, her reactions, are all fairly accurate representations - in my experience - of dealing with internalised racism. within the frame of the narrative, city elves and dalish elves are oppressed by humans in different ways; sera's dislike or rejection of dalish culture and religion is reflective of her internalised racism, not racism. sera is also an elf; the history of arlathan and the dales belong as much to dalish elves as they do to city elves. sera dunking on the elves is upsetting, sure, but it's not comparable to human characters doing the same - sera is a city elf directly as a result of orlesian colonisation, which led to the creation of the alienages in the first place. this is her culture, her history, and the fact she's slamming it so hard is a symptom of her internalised racism.

and there's further criticisms still that are applicable to multiple characters in the story because it's the result of dai's shitty writing, which isn't limited to sera. but some people act as if it is, ignoring entirely their male favs who do the same thing. idk! i think some people who find sera annoying should & can just say that - i also think she's immature, which can be grating to deal with - because some of the logic offered for not liking her seem to miss the point of her character entirely.

[mixedkid-matchup]

you do not have to answer this!! I'm using you to confess my dubious feelings for the Percy Jackson series bc you also expressed like some weird feelings about it, and I kind of thought the series was untouchable bc of how much everyone I see fawns over it, and I have GOT to get this off my chest to someone who might get what I'm saying. But I have major issues with the writing/premise/series bc it's just feels so deeply colonized and it's bothered me since it FIRST came out and everyone in middle school and high school was reading it and teachers were assigning it. Like the whole premise for the Greek gods being in the US is that they follow Western "progress" and it completely disregards all the amazing things Indigenous did and our way of life, and also removes the importance of place-based culture for both Greek stories and Native peoples (like okay all the Greek stuff moved to the U.S. but wth happened to all our spiritual figures?? The story completelya cts like Native people weren't here and didn't have complex beliefs and ways of life connected to the land, and the gods were just free to take over here with no issues). As a mixed Indigenous kid it just rubs me wrong in all the worst ways and the academic systems love affair with Greek and Roman stuff and Rick Riordan's sheer popularity has been forcing this stuff in my face foreveeeerrrr 😭😭 I was surprised to see your tags about the fandom being weird before too tho since I don't interact with it, so I hope you don't mind this ask and just know I kinda feel the same way!! Ok thanks bye sorry for the rant.

BRO I HAVE HAD THIS RANT ON HAND FOR A LONG TIME ITS OKAY!!!!!!!!!

I THINK IF HEARD ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY. but you explained it way better. like when i first read percy jackson ok fine i was 11, i obviously caught onto the ableism and such but i did not catch onto this until i thought about it when i got older. you're super right. the whole thing about ww2 being caused by demigods was the weirdest shit ever i literally did not remember reading it until i read lightning thief again last year. why did hitler need to be child of hades. THAT IS QUITE LITERALLY HOW PERCY DESCRIBES HADES WHEN HE SEES HIM. LOOKING LIKE HITLER. then what you're saying how they move with the places that are the most progressive and basically take over..... like it's just ..... incredibly misplaced and insensitive.

but about the fandom being weird (its literally encouraged by riordan's book tbh), in heroes of olympus, hazel is a black girl from lousiana in the 1930s?? or 40s idk anyways i think she dies and then nico brings her back. whatever, everyone draws her lightskin and with orange hair, and super skinny, (which she's from louisana. shes darkskin and does not have "caramel" hair i hate white men sometimes.) and shes like 13 btw and in a relationship with frank whos like 16. weird as hell and everyone thinks theyre so sweet. and also rick cannot write meaningful young women. and especially not girls of color. like its WEIRD how piper is portrayed as some pick me girl she constantly feels the need to express shes not like the Aphrodite girls. and rick had to make it weird with aphrodite anyway by making them a whole stereotype of snobby boys and girls who love putting on makeup. they had drew, an asian girl & counselor of aphrodite, straight up mean to piper bc she likes jason. like for no other reason. drew only wants to participate and go on the quest because of jason. and other stereotypes like making leo, latine, be super flirty.

and lets really talk about how annoying annabeth was about the blondes are dumb stereotype because, girl we can talk about misogyny and people not letting you do things because of it, but lets also talk about how you are TWELVE, and the blonde stereotype is tired. i never liked annabeth, she was really tone deaf as someone whos half black. OH AND FRANK. they had this weird ass arc where they implied he was fat because of lack of confidence? like when he got confident he, lost weight... because of a blessing of mars? i dont even know.

like as i get older its more and more annoying to see it. i literally rolled my eyes when i saw rick talking about colorblind casting when people got mad about annabeth. he could of said anything else. how this could reconceptualize annabeth's arc around misogyny and now racism. and purposely alter her character to fit this new black annabeth. but no. people treat colorblind casting as a pinnacle of progressiveness.

[azure-clockwork]

Way to tell us your groundbreaking original opinion shared by only more than half the fandom in a "better than everyone" tone despite being an extremely surface level analysis.

Like damn, I'm not arguing with you and I'm sorry for the rude sarcasm, but you gotta understand that post like yours keep popping once in a while in the characters tag ( despite having all discourse tag and discourse-prone blog blocked ) when they don't add anything to the discussion. Three Houses is such an interesting game to analyze so if you're going to do discourse, at least get a bit in depth!

Because yes, you're complaining about the discourse but your post is just... participating in the discourse, just in the average "centrist" fe3h fandom way for a lack of a better word. If you hate it so much why add your grain of salt in it? You're the same as the annoying Edelgard/Dimitri/Claude you're speaking about! I mean at least some of them at least provide interesting analysis about the game within rant.

At least tag your post the next time, because even some of the worst lord stan have the decency to do that.

Sorry you got my rant, but your post was the drop that makes the ocean of badly tagged similar takes overflow my discourse limit. Three Houses discourse sucks hard in every form it takes. Still, have a good day at least.

Okok I did say I was asking for this so, fair

First, sincerely, how would you like me to have tagged this? This is an honest question to which I don't actually know the answer, and I'll go back and edit the tags cuz I don't want to bug more people (and kinda the only reason I'm replying because otherwise I feel like engaging is kinda not what I wanna be doing with my life nor yours, but sadly my brain doesn't shut its trap once I start thinking so I feel compelled to share with the class). Actually, you can skip the rest of this if you don't wanna bother lol

Secondly, I just wanted to be funny because I think that accusing fire emblem characters of war crimes is amusing. I recognize that the Geneva Convention sorta breaks apart the moment magic or crests or dark beasts or gambits come into play, and it's also not what people mean when they say 'Dimitri did war crimes' or 'Edelgard is a war criminal', but I think its hilarious to do anyways. When I see people making arguments about characters and using the term 'war criminal', roughly half of my brain starts laughing about how teeeeechnically using that one gambit with the poison barrels counts as criminal, regardless of if I agree or disagree with the argument made. And I'm memeing on myself here too (or at least trying to): "Jay is gay for Edelgard" is a truly terrible justification to base decisions of morality on . I'd argue that picking a house/the church based on attraction to the lord/Rhea is a sillier motive than a numerical tally of official violations of the Geneva Convention.

I really didn't want this to come across as Discourse tm because I don't want it to be; I just wanted turn my own desire to make a list of every single 'technically a war crime' into something semi amusing, because nobody actually wants to sit and read far too many words about how technically if you recruit and deploy Cyril to rescue Flayn (which is before his 15th birthday by like a month) that makes you a war criminal.

If you want my actual opinion (because making you scroll back thru my blog to read the unhinged rants I came up with while deciding between crimson flower and silver snow would be kinda a dick move), fe3h is a messy, morally grey game regardless of your chosen route. You have to make rough choices, kill your friends and former students, and stand by while everyone, including your allies, does terrible things. For me, I bonded really hard with most of the cast fairly quickly because white clouds let me feel like I was doing the worlds best job teaching my kids. And then you have to kill them. You cannot save them all. It broke me a little. The first student I killed, perma-killed, with the music dropping out and all, was Hilda during the Deirdru fight against her and Claude. It was an accident; she died on enemy phase, and I was out of Divine Pulse charges. She wasn't even a requirement for victory. That was the cost of taking Deirdru; that was the cost of waging war. I lay awake that night thinking about how if I had a different sword equipped I couldn't have counterattacked her from 2 tiles away, or if I had done less damage, or tanked a hit, or--

I'm not arguing that every route is equally morally reprehensible, but I think it matters quite a bit that every route makes you complicit in some terrible things. For several reasons, I'm a big fan of crimson flower (I Do Not Like The Church and I also agree with all of the characters who would like to do away with the nobility and crest systems), but that's tempered by the weight of the actions of Those Who Slither. I am continually unsure of just how much I feel the weight of TWSitD's actions falls on Edelgard herself, and I vacillate between "she didn't really have any other options to cause any kind of change from her position, so an uneasy alliance with TWSitD was the lesser of two evils" and "she bears a significant chunk of responsibility for all of their actions, including Jeralt's death". And I have similar, albeit often less strong thoughts about the rest of the characters. Nobody is operating with the full picture, the characters are all massively blinded by their emotions, and everyone makes choices between what they think is the lesser of a few evils. While the exact number of war crimes is irrelevant because whoops, the Geneva Convention doesn't exist in Fodlan and war crimes aren't the only immoral things you can do, thinking about what means are justified by which ends and who bears the responsibility for what acts is actually a really important part of the game for me.

I guess at the end of the day, I walk away from this game believing the war should not have had to happen. But the world doesn't run on shoulds and should nots (in Fodlan or irl), so the best we can do is make choices based on what we do know, and to do our best to help people with the tools we have. I personally land on crimson flower in the end, but I think the real beauty of Three Houses is just how hard it makes that choice.

Ok, I'm done blabbing; just tell me how I ought to tag this to avoid bugging people and I'll be on my way. I mean this sincerely: have a nice day yourself, and sorry to have annoyed you!

[brainrotoverthatthingagain]

Tl;dr overly long rant about how over I am with this argument.

So sick and tired of people using this not only to be assholes but also as a "be all end all". So, anon, I, an aroace, came here to poop your bubble and make you understand that this "argument" does not hold as much (if any) water as you seem to believe it does. Also English is not my first language, I am sorry about misspellings or if any confusion comes up.

Okay so, first of, Aromanticsims(?) and Asexuallity are spectrums. Considering you seem to have a hard time to figure our what that is here is a detailed explanation with images to make it easier for you. Think about a gradient from white to black. Now on one side of the spectrum there are the people that are repulsed and stay repulsed 24/7:

On the other there are people that don't mind being/are in a romantic or sexul relationship, they might not actively seek it out but they also don't hate doing those things:

Then there are people that fall somewhere in the middle, the gray space, between the two:

And there can also be people, like me, who run around I those spectrums as if they own us money and we are coming to collect. We can feel differently on the topic of sex and/or romance any given time:

Also, sure sometimes you are on equally footing with both your Asexuallity and Aromanticsims(?) (As loving illustrated by me trying to colour in the pointer and doing a shitty job of it!):

But sometimes they could also be on the opposites of each other:

Sometimes the difference isn't that extreme:

One of them could stay in their designated spot whilst the other is jumping around wildly:

And other times both of them just do whatever on their own:

Or together:

The long and short of it is that not very one is repulsed by romantical and/or sexual stuff. In fact, being AroAce is a little bit different for everyone, I would say. I even let you in on a secret: I've heard whispers that some even dare to be in romantic or sexual (or both) relationships and are happy in those *le gasp*! The horrors, I know /s

We have no idea where Alastor falls under that spectrum, and personally I believe everyone is free to headcanon that for themselves. Even if we would know (and he happens to be repulsed) I would still ship it. Ya wanna know why? Because it's fandom and people are free to do what they want. If I don't like something I can block it (something I recommend you do).

(Also obligatory: nobody needs permission to ship something, but if you really want it I am hereby giving it to you.)

Lastly, it's so fucking annoying to see people like you pull out the "He's AroAce" card when we both know that you don't actually give a shit about the fact that he's AroAce. You randomly select this sentence out of like three (alongside: "Charlie is with Vaggie", and most recently, "But he sees her as his daughter"/"She sees him as his father") to discredit and look down on people that dared to like something you don't like. It would be pathetic, if it wouldn't be so annoying to see wherever I turn. You are allowed to dislike it, but I am genuinely asking you (and anyone like you), to leave it alone. Block the tag, ignore the shippers. Go on and make your fandom experience the best it could ever be by stopping to make it worse for the people around you.

Thx for coming to my Ted-Talk. Enjoy your fandom experience!

U still gonna defend Charlastor now that Alastor is confirmed aro? 💀

MY FIRST ASK OMG!! I only activated the option for shits and giggles, never thought anyone would actually bother to ask me something! Yay and Thank you! 🥹

but now to answer your questions: yas, I will!

[richmond-rex]

so I've just gotten into the Wars of the Roses and this is probably gonna be a rant but it's so, so annoying that so many people claim to be Yorkist fans but are in actuality just die-hard fans for Richard III. I have never seen them care about any other Yorkist family member. Edward IV, from what I see, is pretty unfairly dismissed/forgotten as English monarchs go, and most people who claim to love the "House of York" only view him as a flawed embarrassing prequel to his younger righteous brother. And I don't understand how the York VS Tudor debate even works, because what what i gather, what happened after E4's death was a YORK VS YORK conflict which Richard III began by targeting the Woodvilles (despite them proving to be conciliatory - Elizabeth Woodville agreeing to limit her sons escort, Anthony and Richard Grey meeting Richard for dinner etc), bastardizing and almost definitely murdering his brother's children, and claiming the throne. Henry VII began as more of a figurehead for the Yorkists who were against Richard III to rally towards, and only after he agreed to marry Edward IV's daughter. Like...Edwardian Yorkists literally won when Henry VII claimed the throne, their queen and queen's mother were Yorkists.

this ask was all over the place lmao sorry

Hi, anon! I and @lady-plantagenet have had this conversation a few times because it's actually so common to find yorkist fans that don't actually like Edward IV, that say he was stupid, lazy, morally corrupt, the man that brought down the dynasty (not, incidentally, the man who raised it to the throne)—to say nothing about yorkists they don't consider yorkist enough: Elizabeth Woodville, George of Clarence, Richard Earl of Warwick, Edward V, to name a few—that yorkist fans like @lady-plantagenet can actually feel quite alone. It is actually ironic as you pointed out because in the end Richard did split the Yorkist establishment in two and ended up dooming it, as observed by Rosemary Horrox (a professor and member of the Richard III society for the longest time btw), and also by Nigel Saul: 'By dint of his usurpation he had split the hitherto strong Yorkist establishment'.

Henry Tudor was Lancastrian by blood and allegiance (Henry VI's nephew) but he was supported by so many Edwardian yorkists he could be considered in fact a yorkist pretender (in the sense of one who aspires to the crown—a pretender—that was supported by yorkists). Sir William Stanley, for example, who effectively rescued Henry at Bosworth, had been a committed yorkist since 1459 and was even the one to capture Margaret of Anjou in 1471, but it's convenient to paint him as a fence-sitter like his brother. It's hard to see how many lifelong yorkists actually committed to Henry's cause because if they did, what exactly was Richard's purpose from a fandom-esque point of view?

As observed here by Horrox as well:

However one chooses to interpret his actions, [Richard] can with justice be seen as a failed king [her italics], who in the end destroyed whatever it was he had sought to rescue and preserve, losing his crown, and his life, in the process.

That 'whatever he sought to rescue and preserve' was, according to many fans, the house of York. Whatever his intentions, in the end—as pointed out by a Ricardian historian (not to mention other historians too)—he failed. He did more harm than good to that cause, so why elevate that figure as the only good and valid yorkist to the detriment of almost every other yorkist figure? It doesn't make much sense. This is not to say one cannot have an interest or a liking to Richard, as anon pointed out it’s a question as to why one would dislike most yorkists and still call oneself a fan.

A big part of it is, of course, that his diehard fans don't see the Woodvilles as yorkists at all. Think of John Ashdown-Hill calling Elizabeth Woodville the 'pink' queen as opposed to white, think of Rosemary Jarman and other Ricardian storytellers making Elizabeth Woodville marry Edward IV out of spite and a desire to avenge her first Lancastrian husband by plotting the destruction of the house of York (never mind that her own son was the very heir). Plenty of times they don't even see Edward V, Richard of Shrewsbury, or Elizabeth of York as yorkist enough (especially Elizabeth of York, who they conveniently forget was Edward IV's child too and allowed the legacy of her father to live on through her children). Bizarrely, some of them are also fixated on the idea that not even Edward IV was yorkist enough because he was actually a bastard.

My guess is that in the end some of them might think the name 'ricardian' has bad connotations and don't want to be associated with it so they say 'yorkist/yorkist fan' instead even if they don't particularly like any other yorkist figure? I can understand that because so many ricardians are so loudly obnoxious on Twitter and on awful blogs like Murrey*ndblue, so many of them are so genuinely vile about Margaret Beaufort, Henry VII, Elizabeth Woodville, about historians they don't like—Nicola Tallis, Nathen Amin and Michael Hicks have been the usual recipients of their hatred but more recently also Lucy Worsley, all very different historians, proof that all you need to do is to doubt Richard's good intentions to be targeted—so many of them only talk about 'pure' and 'untainted' Plantagenet blood (yikes), I understand not wanting to be a part of it. 

And it's really sad because 'ricardian' is not a slur, it's not a denomination that I or someone else invented to shame them, it's a name used by them—just go on Twitter and see how many have the words 'proud ricardian' on their profile—and invented by them: the Richard III Society itself keeps a journal called The Ricardian that has issues going as far back as 1974. It's simply calling an apple an apple.

I'll probably get vagued (if not worse) by replying to this ask in the first place, but thanks for reaching out. You're not alone in that sentiment for sure 🌹x

[southslates]

god that zk / d*rkalina post reminds me of why i left that fandom, i really hate how you can’t simply say you don’t like something without a bunch of people jumping on your back accusing you of ‘policing’ them or smth like how is me personally thinking something is gross affecting you? idk. esp since i’m black and they go doubly hard after me if i so much as imply that i don’t like something specifically because of racism / misogynoir.

it’s like when some atla fans get pissed off that not everyone likes aang. like he was never my favorite. after b3 / comics i actively dislike him. but every time i say i don’t like him i’m a monster who bullies 12 y/o and hates ‘non dramatic’ ships. like no, i… simply just do not like him. i never came for you. i just said i don’t like him and his (lack of) character development imo.

sorry for ranting in your inbox i am just sick of being demonized for not liking things by the so called ‘you do you’ crowd. ironically i feel like those white ‘fandom old’ types target people just as much as those they say they despise sometimes :/

right and the most annoying thing is that they claim they're all for you do you, but there's a difference between acknowledging something is unhealthy BUT fictional and romanticizing something that is unhealthy? some people don't seem to draw the line...and like i guess it's "you do you" and that's their business, but if we're going to state our opinions and accept that everyone's opinion is valid as long as they don't infringe upon other's opinions, then like....you can still be criticized

sorry you've dealt with misogynoir and racism in fandom, it really is sad how such a safe place ends up being a microcosm of the world that sometimes even amplifies its worst aspects in very insidious ways, because you leave your guard down when you're in fandom, you assume it's a safe space, and then...

i've always said i never dislike ships because of ships, but because of shippers. i loved darklina and i thought the dynamic was so cool to explore (as i said i've written several fics, like the first was when i was thirteen) but then the way i was harassed on twitter for disliking how people compared it to kanej in some form...ruined the ship for me. like, i never said don't ship it? i basically always said that darklina has a cool dynamic to explore but that i didn't want it to be canon because that is the normalization of abuse in its canonical interpretation. maybe there is a world where it could have been done and it being canon would not have been a bad impression on thirteen year old girls like me, the first time i read the grisha trilogy. but well, it isn't this one. i was there and i wish malina was better in the books lol so i would have found darklina less appealing.

but yes with the aang thing, too! i think the "you do you" anti harassment crowd has its extremes, especially when they defend racist and problematic behavior towards real life individuals in fandom as on the same tier of fictional interaction, especially because this defined "harassment" is not people venting on their accounts without instigating discourse. people will always have their opinions.

zk fandom has had a lot of issues with big name white fans conflating real problematic behavior within the fandom with general proship harassment. it's what drove me out of the fandom last year and i pray it will not happen again because it really really bothered me at the time

but anon i do empathize so so much with you <3 sucks that a supposed safe space like fandom still has so many complications--i just want to do my own thing, and that includes hating on things, in peace ✌️

[childotkw]

Not sure if it's just me but sometimes it seems like certain people in a fandom find it really hard to comprehend that people like morally grey and or ambiguous characters.

Everytime you find a character, who has done some pretty dubious things, compelling people feel the need to constantly remind you of all the bad they have done and how their sad past doesn't justify their actions (granted it doesn't) but these people will constantly spam and remind you of how you can't like said character.

I once had someone say that if you like Snape you've never been bullied in school or abused, this irks me to no end, because why do they feel the need to bring this up? It's like people can only see Black and or White and nothing else, sorry for ranting love, this just annoys me for some reason.

Honestly I feel like we should treat characters like people, yes you can like them and yes you can find their actions terrible, is it so hard for people to comprehend that humans are complex?

Yeah, you see this quite a lot, particularly in fandoms like HP where a lot of characters are morally grey. I see it with characters. I see it with ships. I see it with genres in general.

People need to start remembering that you don't need to justify liking or disliking something to someone; and that no one has to defend their interests to you. It's fine to have differing opinions on characters or ships or whatever. But in no way is it fine to launch into cruel rants or attack people because they say "you know I actually like this 'problematic' thing".

Liking something in fiction does not mean you are advocating for or condoning it in real life. It's not a 1 : 1 thing.

Take Snape for instance. I don't personally like him, but I don't care if people do. He's a complex character, so I view him critically - like I do with most characters. The claim that liking a character somehow means you support their actions or decisions is just silly.

One of my favourite characters is Tom Riddle - the genocidal, blood-purist asshole that tries to murder babies. Does that mean I'm suddenly an elitist myself? Or that I want to kill children? Of course not. I like him because he's complicated and because he does shitty things. It makes him interesting.

Nothing is black and white, particularly in fiction. That's what makes it so powerful. Fiction might reflect reality, but it does not become reality - and people are doing creativity a huge disservice by trying to compress things into neat little boxes.

[badapricot]

Sorry if this is annoying but i was going through the lovely writer tag and saw a lot of your posts on this series. So I just wanted to ask, how do you really feel about Nubsib?

In the initial episodes, I though he was so obsessive and stalkerish, the typical "top" in all BLs and I honestly thought that the way this series was behaving "woke" for a lot of things, it'd be like mid-way through, Gene would understand his manipulative behaviour and shit would go down, and then we'll get some REAL character development for Sib.

Whoosh that didn't happen. After Sib's past and true intentions were revealed, Gene DID hold him accountable but Sib???? Never actually apologized to him?

I dunno, i just, maybe expected more from this series? Like yeah, the coming out to parents stuff was handled quite well but Nubsib's character still irks me the wrong way(even in ep10 when he asked Gene to not go to the beach without him. Bruh.) Especially when the fandom puts him on a pedestal asking for consent before kissing him, like that's the bare minimum? He's still manipulative and controlling? I'm- woah i just realised i have a lot of feelings about this💀💀💀🖐🏼

Anyways!! What do you think about Sib?

Sorry for the long rant!! if you don't want to answer it's completely fine, pls don't feel pressured🥺

I don’t necessarily agree, but I don’t think this is annoying at all. I’ll address your points one by one.

First, Nubsib did apologize to Gene explicitly in Episode 8, when he kissed his cheek over the balcony.

Second, I think where our opinions diverge is that I see and accept that Nubsib is a dark character and it’s actually something that I like about him which you can probably tell if you go through my meta tag.

On the fandom putting him on a pedestal and being a little too defensive about his manipulative and controlling behaviour: I actually agree. I think the fandom sometimes does too much to white-wash him because they want to defend him against people who call him creepy or whatever, when actually, Nubsib being a dark romantic lead that we’re seeing through rose coloured glasses is the most interesting thing about him and the show. I think people should embrace these things about him while also leaving room to praise him on the good traits he already has (caring a lot about consent) and the good traits he develops (apologizing to Gene).

Just to list some of his “bad” traits that I personally like because I think they make him interesting, but a lot of people like to ignore:

Nubsib is very selfish. He approached Gene because he wanted him, not for some bigger altruistic reason. He’s also so selfish that he knew what he was doing to Gene was wrong but he didn’t care because “the ends justify the means”. He was prepared to apologize to Gene from the start because he always knew he was wrong. Building on his selfishness, Nubsib doesn’t initally care about how his actions affect Gene, the show, the crew members, or anyone. His biggest concern is keeping Gene with him. He doesn’t generally care about others.

Nubsib is arrogant. He thought that he could protect Gene from everything and that there was no problem he couldn’t solve, which was why he was stupid enough to allow him and Gene to get caught on the beach. If Nubsib wasn’t so arrogant about his abilities, they wouldn’t have gotten caught. He also only thought about legality of dating Gene, he didn’t think about the human element which would be the fans and Gene.

Nubsib can be very patriarchal and infantilizing with how he treats Gene. We see this the most when he withholds the truth about Aey from Gene, and he expects Gene to take his word at face value while Nubsib takes care of it. Similar to the way parents want to keep their children ignorant while they deal with all the big problems, Nubsib also wants to take care of problems without Gene knowing about them. This ties into how arrogant he can be.

Nubsib’s manipulativeness is pretty self-explanatory. He thinks 5 years in advance and for most situations, has worked out every possible outcome based on his intelligence and knowledge of the person (barring him and Gene being outed). He knows how to manipulate people using his appearance, which we can assume is a side effect of him being a businessman and being treated poorly as a child, by everyone excluding Gene.

And yet, despite every negative thing I wrote, I love all those things about Nubsib. I think it makes him a compelling male lead in a series about how all BL actors wear masks because he’s not just wearing masks to do fanservice. He wore a mask to get our main character! I also think he’s a good narrative foil for Gene who is the antithesis of Nubsib. Gene is selfless, Gene is soft-hearted, Gene is honest, and Gene assumes everyone is being just as honest as he is because he’s naive.

I don’t think Gene’s soft-hearted and honest character would be as highlighted if Nubsib wasn’t as dark as he is.

[cleverclove]

idk about you clove but i've seen a lot more allison hate than any of the other characters? like i get allison is NOT flawless but i always see people being like, "her actions cannot be excused" and then i see people do that exact thing for luther and five and klaus and diego like "oh he was worried about _____ and he had a lot of pressure on him as a kid and it was just really stressful for him because _____" like OKAY that's whatever.

i mean luther was so incredibly shitty to vanya in the first season (and second to some extent), five killed people and had few reservations about it, klaus manipulated hundreds (thousands?) of people, diego killed his mother, but yeah defend them and then denounce allison.

i don't dislike any of the characters for doing these things because i get their situation, but somehow no one ever extends that to allison. sorry for ranting in the ask box but i'm kind of mad.

NO anon don’t apologize my dear!! You are absolutely right and frankly the TUA fandom needs to do better :|

For ONE thing, see anything different that Allison has that siblings like Five or Klaus do not? That’s right, anon! Melanated skin! So unfortunately that basically dooms her to the bottom of sibling rankings in most cases.

Fandoms will see one (1) complex WOC (specifically a black woman) and will ruthlessly call her out on it no matter how big or small her flaws are. Flaws. Like…the things literally every single one of us have.

And ANOTHER thing! This is…a dark and nuanced show. With dark and nuanced characters. The ENTIRE point is to show how dysfunctional and imperfect this family is and how they persevere despite this. AND YET! The fandom completely disregards this and narrows their white faves down to “uwu baby Klaus” or “owo my PERFECT SON Five!” As my beautiful tumblr sister @lunannex pointed out, this fandom is made up almost entirely of white gays. They can’t relate to POC’s struggles as much as they can for canonically queer white ones. So they brush them under the rug and create a narrative where the white favorites can do no wrong while they most DEFINITELY did. Meanwhile Allison, Diego, and even Ben to an extent are either there as props or villains in this white-dominated fandom. There is almost no in between. It’s performative tokenism, plain and simple.

You are allowed to not like Allison. Not everything about her can be defended. As a proud Allison stan myself, some of her actions are highly questionable and deserve to be pointed out. However, nitpicking at her just because she hurt your white favorite’s feelings is annoying at best and insidiously veiled racism at worst. She is not a “flawless queen” but you know what? Neither are YOUR favorites. So either white TUA fans need to examine their own favorite characters’ actions or shut up about Allison’s.

Sorry for MY little rant there anon </3 have a wonderful day/night!!!