#sorry for the negativity on your timelines I just needed to vent after reading what I did

[hanafubukki]

You know what really sucks?? When you’re really excited for something and then someone goes and makes unnecessary comments about it which taints your fun.

I’m so excited for this coming update and then someone has to say something that just…leaves a bad taste in my mouth??

I get having favorites and all that, me too. I am not any different.

But why ruin it for others??

Why be a sourpuss about it??

Just because you don’t like certain things or how the update went?? Because it didn’t meet your expectations??

Literally this update means so much to me and others and you have to what??

Be a jerk about it??? Because you can?? And ruin the fun??

It’s so dumb.

And unfortunately for them, I’m not one to back down.

Commentary like that just makes me more determined and makes me want to hype it up even more.

[thehollowprince]

Okay. Another Endgame semi rant: You've sorta talked about this on your blog, but those Steve fans who like Steve's ending ( or least their trying to make the best out of it god bless 'em) and chastise other who didn't like Steve's for being salty shippers ( and that's a legitimate gripe- like no-one thought Stucky was going to be A THING, but we all hoped that their deep bond, which goes all the way to when they were like SIX- okay fine *9* would be honoured and respected) are clinging so 1/?

so hard to the idea that Steve created an alternate timeline, where he can do *anything*. Like rescuing Bucky and that timeline's Steve, and stopping Hydra from infiltrating SHIELD. When the intention of the Russos and the writers was quite clearly for him to retire and have life and not be a soldier anymore. (I swear the Russos said that before the backlash became overwhelming ) Like they put him back in the fight when the intention was for Steve to stop fighting, so they'll write passive 2/?

Passive aggressive asides - (sorry lost my train of thought) about how if we don't understand that it's a different timeline, and of course he's not just going to sit back or whatever- and it's like "GUYS. You ALMOST GET IT it's because the idea of Steve sitting back and doing nothing in the main timeline- and almost certainly not getting back in the fight in the alt timeline- because again, The Russos were like "LOL He & Peggy are going to make baby," before Joe was like "He can do anything" 3/

(Okay tumblr conked out so I don't know if you got my last ask) so as I was saying: "We just didn't want our favouite character to be destroyed?" (Well he was in my eyes at least) Anyway sorry for filling up you inbox with asks, I just, had enough of reading those posts and needed to vent you know?

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Okay... sorry it took me so long to get to this but I wanted to make sure I was awake and ready to tackle the whole thing. These caught me at a bad time but now I'm all rested and ready to dig into the meat of it.

To start off with, I have never had an issue with people who liked (or tried to see the silver lining) in Steve's ending. We live in a very big world and it would be rather dull if everyone shared the same opinion on everything, but I wasn't aware of how big the divide was growing until almost a month after I saw the movie. I was upset at Steve's ending and I made a joke about it, and before you know it I have people that are making passive-aggressive posts or even calling you out for not being "a true Steve fan."

And I gotta say, seeing that made me immediately take a step back from the fandom. Like, woah! When did the pro-Steve side become the new Tony stans? Because that's exactly the mentality we were mocking and pointing out for years now, how Tony stans didn't care about anything else except their favorite character's happiness, even of it completely contradicted all of the canon that came before it.

But once I started seeing it, I started seeing it everywhere. Blogs that had been inactive for months started waking up and spreading this idea that you weren't a real fan if you didn't love the ending that Steve got. And while they've changed the way they phrase it, the idea persists. Now it's usually just something along the lines of "wow, look at the character they really like", which is usually pulled out if you try and mention Steve's relationship to Sam or Bucky or Wanda or whomever. And I k ow I've said this before, but that's part of the reason I loved the MCU version of Steve so much. He was more than just him. Steve was Steve because of those around him, how he related to them, how he helped them and how they believed in and followed him despite overwhelming odds. So to just cut all that off, despite that being one of the cornerstones of Steve's fandom and claim that people don't really like Steve unless it involves X character is super disingenuous.

To make matters worse is the actuality of Steve's ending. If you've accepted that Steve did that at the end of ENDGAME, then you have to try and wrap your head around the actuality of what happened. Did he open a new timeline or was he always Peggy's husband in this timeline? If he did open a new timeline, did he prevent a whole bunch of horrible things from happening or did he just sit back and relax and ignore it all? Did he awaken frozen Steve and have him do all the fighting or did he just let everything play out the way it did originally? No one knows because even the writers and directors, the idiots who came up with this idea, can't agree on what happened! It's a clusterfuck of a situation that only gets worse when you apply it to fandom.

I shouldn't have to dig into the whole Steve/Peggy situation, because I've done it before, but just for the sake of completion I'll mention again how nothing ever actually happened between Steve and Peggy aside from that one kiss. They could have been something epic but they missed their window and the fact that the four morons behind Steve's journey couldn't remember that is infuriating. The new thing now, of course, is to mock people who point that out by saying that "Steve and Peggy knew each other for years during the war and just because it's not shown doesn't mean it didn't happen", but them completely miss the irony in stating that something that we have no concrete proof of is canon. It's a godamn unsatisfactory bitch of a situation.

There was even one blog who came out of hibernation that accused me of being "fake woke" for mentioning the negative impact of having arguably the MCU's most political character played by one of their more vocal actors go back to the "good ol' days".

At the end of the day, would I have loved for Stucky to happen? Of course I would have! As has been stated multiple times now, I am severely underrepresented in the MCU and I latched onto anything that could be construed as representation in any capacity, but I also never expected it to happen. This is Disney! I just find it disheartening that our concerns and opinions are considered less then because we turn to these friendships and so on as to why Steve should have stayed, especially because he's one of the few male protagonists that is more than just his physicality but also his emotional connection to people.

I maintain, to this day, that Steve should have just retired in the modern world (or as he called it - Home), because not only would it have made sense for his character arc, but it would have opened up the doorway for a potential return for the next big Team-up movie. Just imagine Steve swooping in and saving Sam with a "Captain America needed my help" line.

When all's said and done, we all have our own opinions on that ending, and the MCU in general, and I've found that it's only a few that are diehard about supporting Steve's ending. I have several mutuals that liked Steve's ending even though I and others didn't, and I wouldn't get rid of them for anything.

[slytherinfinity]

ENDGAME SPOILERS!!

Okay I saw Endgame last night and I need to vent... AHHHHHH!!! haha I have so many mixed emotions and I don’t even know. Also I typed this on mobile so sorry for any typos. 

So I first saw Iron Man when I was 11, and it was so cool. I grew up watching all of these movies. At first, Cap was my favorite bc he was ~cute~ and I was a young teen girl and so were all my friends. I also loved Loki for this reason haha. Then I saw Iron Man 3 and LOVED IT. I bought it on DVD as soon as it came out. Tony Stark was amazing, but also he dealt with anxiety and panic attacks? His and Pepper’s relationship was everything as well, and also his and Happy’s and Rhodey’s friendships. Tony felt real and human and relatable, and it was cool he was able to overcome so much even with all of his trauma. In AOU he just wanted to protect his team, and no one truly listened to or respected him or tried to understand him, and he ended up with more trauma and guilt. I just wanted him to have a happy ending. Then he met Peter and it brought me hope, after all the Civil War crap. Infinity War was crushing but not completely because I knew another movie was coming out, so there was still some hope. But then Endgame. Honestly... I’m still processing, but I don’t think I’m happy with it. And for more reasons than just Tony, though I’ll talk about that first. His storyline just seemed... blah. He gets back, gets to yell at Steve, and then goes and lives in seclusion with Pepper and has a kid. Yet you know that even with that life he’s still depressed and guilt-ridden. It’s how Pepper knows he won’t stop. So he does his best to help, time travels or whatever (honestly that whole part is still kinda confusing to me- it created alternate timelines, but what are the implications of that- and also for the rest of the MCU??) and then Tony comes back and it looks like they’ve succeeded. I was expecting him to notice something off about Nebula, tbh. But anyway, final battle, and we all know what happens. He makes the sacrifice play. He dies. Pepper says it’s okay, but I just can’t agree. He already made the sacrifice play in the first movie. I think it should have been Steve or someone else in this one to do it. If all Tony’s pain and trauma has been building to this- I just feel empty inside. It’s not a satisfying end. Sure, he saved the universe, but I feel like Strange literally could have like left a message saying don’t send Nebula to the past and all of that would have been avoided. It felt so pointless. They’d already won. Tony also only got to reunite with Peter for like 30 mins, which is lame, and will bring a whole lot more trauma to him. He didn’t even get to see Morgan again. Ughhh I’m just annoyed. And then Steve?? He just goes to live in the past?? The whole movie he’s been saying he doesn’t move on, and then he literally never does, he never grows from there. He doesn’t really develop at all. It’s true- he never truly moved on from the past, and so that means... he’ll just go live there??? I think a better move would be to have him grow to accept his life and try to be happy and actually move on. Or, like I said earlier, he could have realized he can’t move on and made that sacrifice play himself in order to allow others to live and move on. I think that would have been a more satisfying arc to his story. And it would show the love he actually has for Tony- to allow Tony to live with his family and show that he heard and understood what Tony said at the beginning of the movie. (Also, they never had a real conversation where they made up. It was like they kind had that “do you trust me” moment but Steve never truly apologized and I feel like we got jipped out of a good heartfelt moment between those two.) Also- the Natasha sacrifice was sad, but I’m not totally surprised by it. It feels like a very her thing to do, to save her family and Clint’s. But then after everyone got mad and had a quick moment of silence, it was kind of forgotten?? Like they could have even had a memorial or small tribute at Ton’s funeral or elsewhere but like put something in?? It feels like she was just kind of brushed aside. (Also- I didn’t like BruceNat at first but grew to be okay with it, but then it never became anything? Bruce made himself into Professor Hulk and there was no real closure or conversation between him and Natasha? So like... what. was. the. point???) Again, everything with her just wasn’t that satisfying, but it’s something I may grow to view differently. I did enjoy Clint’s arc and I actually think they did a great job with him. Probably the strongest arc of the movie, actually. The way they handled Thor kind of annoyed me. I think it’s perfectly understandable that he would end up like that. He’s lost his family and most of his kingdom, and he feels responsible. I don’t have a problem with that. I have a problem with how the movie and the characters responded to that. Judgmental looks and jokes... like I’ll be honest, I did chuckle at Rhodey’s Cheez Whiz joke, but now I regret that. Like being fat is funny, haha look at Thor, he’s out of shape! Uhh yeah he’s depressed! And Rhodey should know better, being friends with Tony, he should know how to handle anxiety and depression. Nobody was really trying to help or even talk to Thor much, they really just wanted him to help them. Like he was clearly struggling, and yet that was used as a joke... it makes me sad. And also Thor never even looked back at Loki? The convo with his mom was nice though. But that reminds me? Was Loki’s infinity war death actually real then? Bc ugh. I’d be more willing to accept him being permanently dead if it wasn’t in such a lame way. Daggers, seriously?? Loki has freakin magic, and he’s smart!! He could have duplicated himself or something, and that type of lame death is so unsatisfying. Also. Captain. Freaking. Marvel. I went to the movie in a Captain Marvel T-Shirt, hers is one of the first actual comics I read, and I loved her movie. I was soooo excited to see her in this movie and become part of the team and to have some really fun banter with everyone. But then she just... disappears for basically the whole movie and hardly speaks at all (thinking about it- I think all the female characters speaking overall was wayyy low compared to mens which is sad) and she blows up the big ship at the end and that’s basically it. She didn’t really join the team, and she could have been so helpful! You’re telling me they didn’t make a way to communicate with her and they didn’t want to include her in their time travel adventures?? She could have had a funny interaction with Nick in 2012, or stopped Nebula from getting taken in 2014, or helped out more overall, idk. But she should have been a bigger part of the team. They hyped her up so much when she was hardly in the movie at all, which was extremely disappointing. Like I feel so cheated about this. This is something I’ll probably be bitter about for a while tbh... ugh she’s a queen and deserves so much more haha. Also Okoye and Wong would have been useful assets for the time travel and yet they were hardly in the movie at all? So many underutilized characters smh.... (Also I know this would be impossible and the point of the movie is for the main Marvel characters but you’re telling me that in 5 years, there was no random like French or Chinese or any other country’s scientist that could have developed time travel or another method of reversing the snap? Or someone from one of the bazillion planets out there? Like there have to have been other smart people/aliens who went all Liam Neeson after the snap and were out for revenge and solutions and they could have come up with something in those five years. But again, I know that wouldn’t work for the movie...) I just feel that a conclusion to the first real era and characters of Marvel should be more satisfying. But that’s just me, I know there are people who are plenty happy with it, and I think that’s valid. These are just my thoughts. Also, that was a long rant but I don’t want to be completely negative. Here’s some things I did enjoy. -Clint’s arc. Again, I felt it was really strong and emotional and hit all the right notes. They did a good job with him and I’m glad he got to go back to his family. -Nebula. She’s grown so much y’all. I do wish she got the final blow on Thanos, and that she clicked the button to go to the present faster so Thanos couldn’t come after them, but other than that I thought her storyline was great. She’s awesome. -That moment with all the female characters after Peter got hurt. I cheered. Marvel has so many amazing women and it was great to see them all together. I kinda wish they were given more lines and screen time though but this moment was super cool. -Morgan was adorable and I love her. -Pepper’s understanding of Tony was also great. She knew he needed to do something if he could, especially for Peter, she’s grown so much and she loves her mans I love her. -Almost the whole 2012 time travel thing was great. Some good humor and nostalgia, it was fun, I really liked it. The Loki alternate timeline would be cool to explore and I wonder if that’s what the show will be about. -Wanda had a great moment against Thanos. -Okay, while I do think that whole final battle was ultimately pointless and could have easily been avoided, the moment when T’Challa and the Guardians and everyone came in through the portals was amazingly epic and beautiful and powerful. The audience cheered and I did too. It was a cool scene. -Tony and Nebula in the ship at the beginning was great. -If Steve isn’t gonna be Cap anymore, Sam deserves it and I’m glad they went with him. -The Ancient One, Frigga, and other’s cameos were pretty cool. I liked those moments. -Tony’s convo with Howard was great. I like that he got a little bit of closure with his dad. There’s probably more but I’ve written a lot so I need to be done haha. Let me know your thoughts!! :)

[knightofbalance-13]

I don’t hate Jaune...I just treat everything he does as wrong by default and get angry at him because of it.

http://jaynefray.tumblr.com/post/155917318751/ok-so-this-is-my-problem-with-this-guy

No, you do hate Jaune. You just don’t want to be called out on it.

Under read more. Spoilers: It contains some of my anger over cerain blond teenage character of RWBY. I don’t mean it as hate, I’m just tried of seeing this kind of stuff over and over again and I finally need to vent.

And yet as we go on, we’ll see that you have chosen to intreupt things in the most negative light possible with Jaune. You will choose to see everything he does or everything around him as bad to the point of direct contradiction of the show and hypocrisy.

The thing that pisses me off the most about Jaune’s manpain over Pyrrha is that it seems to be post-production mistake fixing. They forgot to develop this romance from Jaune’s perspective, having him ignore Pyrrha most of the time and share like three moments or so when he appreciates or takes interest in her in any way shape or form, while for the rest of the time he chases another.

Who told you Jaune was mourning her death because it was a romantic relationship? Are you saying that Jaune can’t be sad over his close friend and mentor? Are you saying that it can’t just be friendship with him? because there is nothing to tell me that Jaune loved Pyrrha that way, only that Pyrrha loved him. Jaune never said or showed romantic love towards her at all and the show doesn’t treat it as a two way romantic relationship.

Right off the bat your first argument (Which, by the way, is fucking insulting to say that a man can’t be sad without it being an insult. As much as I bet you call out toxic masculinity, this is reinforcing the idea that men cannot express emotion) is built off of misinformation and fandom assumption. Right off the bat, you just showed you aren’t worth your weight in critique and analysis. And that’s your only option. You said this wasn’t hate so that implies you believe this to be rational and thus this is an analysis of why you factually are angry at Jaune. If not then it IS hate and you are lying in the beginning. Those are your only options.

Like really, one moment is where he says sorry on that roof, the other is during the dance tho idk if I should count it as this because the way he framed this ‘interest’ was inconsiderate but I’ll let it slide for a while

How? How is his interest in Pyrrha, his mentor and best friend, inconsiderate? how is trying to understand her inconsiderate? It’s not and that’s a crook of shit you are using to justify your irrational hate. You let it slide because it does not exist and if you tried that, the fanbase would call you out on your shit, as I am.

Then we have long long nothing and finally, first-in my opinion- genuine interest in what and how Pyrrha feels ep.8 of vol3 so 4 or so episodes before she dies, and in-universe timeline on the very day she dies. Like really, it took the dude to go and start noticing and showing interest in HOW HIS PARTNER feels this long?

yes, because some people are like this. Some people are dense to the feelings of otehrs. Some people cannot read the signs, especially since Pyrrha only let on ONCE about her true feelings (BTW, she wasn’t even being direct that time so it’s on her for not being direct with a dense guy), everything else would be expected of a partner. Funny how two seconds of thought clears this up

And don’t give me any ‘he had to do it earlier’ because apart from that dance scene we don’t get it on screen so as far as we know episode 8 is the first time, or at least first time since the dance. And yet, despite the fact he ignored her, and showed no consideration or no interest in her and her feelings he somehow gets to have most development?

What development are you talking about? If it’s in the relationship then you directly said above he WASN’T developed.If it’s as a friend then what do you call putting on a dress to make her feel better and trying to comfort her when she is obviously troubled? And if it’s character development: That has nothing to do with what is going on and spoiler: Weiss gets that title not Jaune. Nice try.

he gets her circlet? I understand the notion of ‘you don’t know what you have’ I really do, but with all of the above? It really doesn’t seem like enough to warrant such actions. Especially the circlet. How realising he lost a chance and was an idiot for not seeing what was in front of him, how does that entitle him to her possessions?

Seriously? This argument? You are seriously trying to argue over a fucking piece of jewelry that her parents probably own twenty of hers back at home with all the baby pictures and other belongings whereas he just gets one thing which he uses to honor her memory? I’m starting to think you hate the show in general for allowing Jaune to exist seeing as you are trying to tear down anything good in the show that involves him. 

? How does make him more worthy than her parents/mother? He knew this girl for like…few months and for most of this time he couldn’t be bothered to get to know her, care about her feelings or appreciate her. And somehow just because he regrets he didn’t get to know her and make that effort, he is entitled to merge her circlet with her remains into his armour? Does regret over not building or contributing to a bond makes up for that bond or something? I wouldn’t take such an issue with it if he at least asked her mother or waited until they meet her family. It still would have been forced, but he wouldn’t come off as entitled, inconsiderate jerk

Maybe because he was her first real friend? Maybe because she could only make meaningful connections because Jaune helped her? because he helped her though her sadness? maybe because he was willing to help her defeat Cinder and only didn’t because he knew he was basically dead weight? Forgot all about this stuff huh? Convenient for your argument huh?

And never contributed to anything? What do you call putting on a dress to make her feel better? What do you call sitting by her side to comfort her? WHat do you call trying to give her advice? What do you call standing guard while she was about get Amber’s power? Just because you have a hate boner for the guy doesn’t mean you get to twist the facts.

And yes, you would have said this anyway. It’s a fucking lose lose situation. Either he doesn’t do it and he’s an inconsiderate jerk or he does and he’s a Mary Sue and either way, you say bullshit. I know this for a fact because even as your complaints stop applying to him, you twist the facts to MAKE them apply. You hate the guy but you want your hate to be accepted even as you lie and cheat. Well too fucking bad: World doesn’t work that way.

Like if he really, really, really, really, really, really HAS to have Pyrrha’s circlet then at least have her mother say she cannot keep it because it’s too painful and that Pyrrha would have wanted him to have it. Having that wouldn’t have made it good but at least it would be just annoying and tried instead of rage inducing.

Translation: “If the show wastes it’s limited time and budget to make this completely unnecessary scene for me and ten other people which can happen in a latter scene, I’ll say I won’t do this but will because I have shown that I will lie before and why wouldn’t I do it here?”

That’s what all that tells me form your language and actions here. And I call you out on it.

And another thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that Pyrrha’s death in vol3 was empowering, she fought well and valiant, she did her best and pulled all the stops, she did it for her friends and whole the world. She died on her own rules, never yeilding to the dark side. It was heroic and tragic and most of all POWERFUL it was sad but somewhat positive and inspiring message. It had some meaning. It wasn’t death for shock value. But volume 4 never mentions that

Um, you don’t have to directly mention it. The empowering part is shown by Cinder being humiliated and shunned, thus causing what she wanted to turn on her as if by fate. The heroic and inspirational part comes from her influence over Jaune and Ruby and how her death has changed them both drastically, driving them both to improve and keep going. It’s called subtlty.

No, when it’s mentioned it is to show how sad JAUNE IS, to show how UPSET AND ANGRY he is. Like with those recordings, where she tells him he’s great and wonderful an whatnot and he slices the air with his sword in anger. We have it refferenced after Shinon’s fall when again it is to bring out and hilight Jaune’s pain because Shinon.

Fucking liar. The recording was for RUBY’S development you ass. Jaune has mourned Pyrrha onscreen by himself for 8 seconds I counted. When teh focus of the sadness isn’t on Ruby, I counted. It happened once for eight seconds you liar. The scene was meant to convey how close they are and how sad Ruby is over all the sadness around her, Jaune was NEVER the focus you ass. This is so fucking obvious that anyone who thinks critically on it will see it so you have NO excuse.

Jaune says “I am tried of losing everything” everything that is mainly Pyrrha

And Beacon. And his old life. And his chance to be a true huntsman. And his chance to do for Pyrrha what she did for him.

Then we have it mentioned when Qrow talks to them, and again Pyrrha’s death is not there to show example of heroism and taking things into your own hands and choosing how you die. No, once again her death is there for Jaune to get angry and upset

No it was tos how that Qrow and Ozpin weren’t the great heroes they act like, that they did shit wrong too. Jaune wasn’t angry that Pyrrha was dead, he was angry because they caused her to die. he was angry because they caused it. Is he right? No but the narrative doesn’t treat him that way seeing as Jaune is framed like he’s right but overreacting and being overly hostile. The only one making Pyrrha’s death all about Jaune is you: You are the one at fault here, not Jaune or the writers. 

And heck he even manged to rid Pyrrha of her own free will and of the whole by-her-own-rules thing, because he access Qrow of FORCING HER INTO IT

Pyrrha was told she was the only one who could stop a plot against the world. For a selfless person, that is the equivalent to putting a gun to their head. Qrow even acts like it was a bad thing you idiot. The story and tone literally contradict what you are saying: your own basis defeats your argument.

It also shows a lot about how Jaune views Pyrrha. He doesn’t see a strong young woman who is brave and self-sacrifcing and makes her own decisions. He sees her as this…idk object? that doesn’t have it’s own free will and is just moved around by others

Exactly. She was self sacrificing. It is in her nature. SO what otehr choice woulod Pyrrha see in that situation besides helping the greater good? That is literally tantimount to taking advantage of someone. Do you think it’s impossibe to do that? If you do then you’re obviously too immature to talk about such things.

 And yet you blame Jaune and says that he sees her as an object? The one guy who DIDN’T see her as a glorified object but as a person? Considering you push Pyrrha around and twist a lot of shit about her for your own needs, you treat her as an object more than Jaune: A tool to be used to attack and harm a fictional character than an entity of her own.

Ok, maybe I’m taking it too far but this is how it at times looks to me. And this is saddening to me, it is saddening that I see, or at least it seems so that Pyrrha’s death is being reduced to manpain

No, it’s god damn enraging that you see it that way because NOTHING about the show even remotely suggests that unless you look at things through three kalediscopes taped together. It’s enraging that you take this as fact when all forms of logic say otherwise, when facts say otherwise. Because it shows how little you actually care about the character and show unless it’s exactly as you envision it and want it to be. It enrages the fuck out of me.

And this brings me back to her relationship with Jaune and generally relationships girls have with Jaune because it kind of follows similar patterns. When she was alive Pyrrha was kind of like Superhero’s Grifriend. Sure she needn’t saving all the time but she was there to be his pillar of strength, to tell him he’s doing good ect. and now after her death volume 4 is doing the same things.

Or maybe it’s the revolutionary idea that she’s his mentor and she’s trying to teach him to have self confidence because those kinds of thoughts are not only unhealthy and damaging mentally but unsafe LITERALLY with the Grimm around. Did that never occur to? because it occurred to 90% of the fandom.

Then we have Weiss, whose relation to Jaune was to give him angst over rejection and unrequited love. @sssn-neptune-vasilias pointed out, so very, very well that she was ‘another thing that Jaune wanted’ instead of a person

Ah yes the terrorist who thinks people should be harassed and bullied unless they think like him and act like him. Such a creditable source.

Not like the show which went to great lengths to show that Jaune wanted to date for WHO she is, not WHAT she is.( https://youtu.be/nur1pCHD4hU?t=9m6s / https://youtu.be/i7wkw3yEbvQ?t=3m32s ) Once again, the show outright contradicts you so what crediblity do you have. What reason should we not mark you as a hater and treat you as such, despite your protests.

and now it seems that even Ruby, the protagonist of the show, is being reduced to a prop for Jaune Arc’s plot line. She slowly becomes another Comforter like Pyrrha was, another girl who is there to be his pillar of strength while he has angst while she isn’t allowed to have her own feelings and emotional trauma. She doesn’t get to mourn Pyrrha or ponder over her death Jaune with concern and sadness in her eyes because ‘oh, Poor Jaune’. When Shinon gets destroyed and Jaune has another angsty moment, Ruby who too should be distressed and who kinda is over the destruction and dead Huntsman, once again turns to comfort Jaune, and put her hand on his shoulder. Because his angst  again is the most important thing we should focus on. Then we have the talk with Qrow and again Jaune’s feelings and Ruby doesn’t react much when the dude says ‘fat lot of help you are’(it’s not exaxct qoute but it’s basically what he says) because Jaune again has right to act this way Because He Found Out Truth About Pyrrha, so obviously we shouldn’t be too harsh.

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SHUT UP! That is a blatant lie! Jaune only angst onscreen when it’s usable for RUBY. his line about losing people vocalizes RUBY’s sorrow, his sadness in the forest is used a way to make RUBY’S angst relatable, his srrow all builds to Episode 10 where he LITERALLY pushes his sadness aside and says that Ruby inspired him and his team, that she is the only reason any of them have gotten this far both emotionally and physically! He literally spots angsting to make RUBY look good! 

Jaune is needed for Ruby because Ruby avoids bad things and denies the darkness of the world whereas Jaune accepts it and struggles to properly process and grieve for it. Just like how Ruby would defend her uncle and take everything he says as right even as it isn’t, so Jaune has to call him out. Just like Ruby would insist on keep going and pushing it out of her mind,Jaune processes it. Just as Ruby bottles up her feelings until they overwhlem her, Jaune talks about it gets her through it. JAUNE is teh supporter now, JAUNE is the comforter. And yet you refuse to accept that.

That just proves you hate Jaune: that you are so blinded by your hate for him that you literally take things as the exact opposite of what they are. You are a joke and a cheap, pathetic one at that, one i laugh at with a sense of pointed disdain and without an ounce of respect or given dignity.

And then we have parting with Nora and Ren line. Again, despite the fact her uncle is seriously hurt Ruby’s priority as a character is to comfort worried Jaune. Again she is not allowed to have her own emotions and her worries, because Jaune’s are more important and as the only girl left she has to attend to them.

Okay, enough of this sexist bullshit: What about Weiss, who outright rejected him out a care for his feelings? What about Nora, who demans him? What about Yang and Blake who never interact with him? What about Glynda, who never sugercoated anything with him? I am at my paitence’s end with you, do not push me.

And Jaune, just like on that roof with Pyrrha and on that balcony, instead of being thankful or considerate tells her that ‘we don’t know that’, which makes it even more annoying because he again comes off as completely ungrateful; and someone who treats this kindness as either something due to him that he doesn’t have to appreciate.

Because Ruby is being childish and naive for thinking that way! That is who Ruby is! Did you get total ammesia about Ruby’s character throughout this whole thing? Because that is the only excuse.

And it annoys me. I DO NOT HATE JAUNE ARC. I really don’t. He is a good character, but THE WAY THEY WRITE HIM and the way THEY FOCUS ON HIM, the way HIS EMOTIONS ARE MOST IMPORTANT AND OVERRULE EVERYTHING ELSE is what makes me angry. Fine, give some development to the side-character, have them have emotions but please focus on other characters too ESPECIALLY MAIN CHARACTER.

And it pisses me off that you are so centered on hating Jaune and making up excuses to hate him, to justify your hate, that it demeans everyone else in the show to revolving around when that isn’t the case at all! You ignore character’s personality, development, context, actions, feelings and blatant FACTS to hate on him.

You say you are not a hater of Jaune but everything about this screams hater, an irrational one who will justify their hate no matter how much they must twist the show and characters because they have an irrational hatred of one character. Shut up and never talk about Jaune ever again: we have enough comedy in Rooster Teeth, we don’t need pathetic laughter too.