#sorcery saga

[modmamono]

Blue Demon Story

A Madou Monogatari/Sorcery Saga side-story.

Follows up directly from Madou Monogatari 1 in MSX2.

[puyopuyoconfessions]

Whoever was in charge of writing Schezo's personality in Madou Saturn, I'd like to have a talk with them *cracks knuckles threateningly*

Wait what did they do wrong in the writing sorry haven’t played that game yet.

[evajellion]

So… Madou 4… or Fia rather?

On one hand, I'm happy at least the non-human characters are coming back! They were my favs! It might be good to breathe new air into the Madou world with a new protagonist.

Skeleton-T as a teacher/staff member? Pog. That's a cute development for him! Seems all the returning characters (that SEGA allowed to relinquish) are staff members. And I love the non-humans so that's a W for me.

On the other hand, not telling fans that the OG main cast was not returning until now feels kind of… deceitful.

Japanese users seem to have that sentiment.

So that's not a good sign. Well, okay! It doesn't need Arle and co. to be a good game, just needs to have that nice old Madou tone and old school gameplay that people loved!

Oh… it… doesn't have that either, huh? It's another 3D game with visual novel cutscenes with a more complex elemental spell system…

And with copypasted dungeon layouts, joooooy-

Yeah, okay, I'm gonna pull off the optimism mask. I'm sorry, but as someone who has poured hours into Neptunia and Compile Heart's other work, this is just… them retreading the same mistakes they did ten years ago.

To which at this point-

Why not just make a sequel to the previous Sorcery Saga?

You would be telling the truth to people on what they should expect, you would bring back the roguelikes that are taking off in popularity in recent years- you could do something with Pupuru and co. rather than leaving them to rot since the game bombed by being Vita exclusive for a long while.

If SEGA cannot relinquish the rights of Arle and co, that's fine. Pupuru was still right there to use. If they didn't want to affiliate with Pupuru, that's also fine, Fia seems cute.

The problem here, is not that there is a new protagonist. Amitie and other characters worked just fine because Puyo Fever was fun and the characters were good! Sorcery Saga could work if it leaned more on having its own identity rather than reusing the Madou characterizations.

The problem is that this is yet another typical Compile Heart / Idea Factory game. Nine months ago, I literally said "Compile Heart being involved is worrying given their track record."

Things like mediocre gameplay, frequent crashes/lag, and very, very uncomfortable perverted jokes. SEGA may not have trusted them with Arle and the rest for a good reason. (if SEGA was the reason for the main charas being barred from use, rather than some other issue)

So please be aware of that. I'm not trying to be a hater here, I'm just… someone who has played these games and them being super grindy/crashing a lot. I would love to be proven wrong and for this to just be cute with some random horror final boss moments. I really would!

If not, then I think it's time for some indie game creator to make a Madou successor.

[pancake-moth]

uhh yeah

Its the satan lemres hybrid guy

[rainbwspctrm]

Weird evening thought:

Feeling a bit out of place being into Sorcery Saga/Madou Monogatari but essentially having only ever touched a Puyo Puyo game maybe like once or twice and only knowing like a few of the post-Compile characters and almost no post-Compile lore.

Can anyone tell me how good Puyo Puyo is in general, specifically post-Compile/Sorcery Saga era and/or in regards to the gameplay? (As someone who's only ever played Tetris and a bit of Dr. Mario and Panel De Pon!)

[satoshi-mochida]

Basement Brothers- Madou Monogatari 1-2-3 (PC-98 Paradise) - 'The origins of Compile's Puyo Puyo characters!'

[zerorock41]

For the Puyo Pop fans out there! Yes, I know it's Puyo Puyo now, but Puyo Pop rolls off the tongue better.

[annon-guy2]

King of Fighters Tournament Poll: SEGA Edition

Note 1: Atlus is now a subsidiary of SEGA and thus the Persona characters are allowed here.

Note 2: Rovio Entertainment has been bought out by SEGA and thus the Angry Bird characters are allowed here.

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Here's a gameplay example from The King of Fighters to give you all an idea;

[tngmpersonal]

Has anyone tried writing AUs for the Sega-era Puyo cast? Like what if Ringo, Amitie, Sig, and the others existed in the Madou Monogatari continuity?

[pitagain]

#365DaysOfVGM Day 13:

Let’s Go on an Adventure! (Sorcery Saga: Curse of the Great Curry God [2013])

A cheerful melody followed by a great Piano Roll & more! This World Map theme should be followed as a good example!

(Length before loop: Nearly 1.5 minutes)

[retroillustrates]

Barbarian, who taught you how to talk to people?

[modmamono]

[puyopuyoconfessions]

[evajellion]

Madou Monogatari Fou-- I mean, Fia, is out

After a long wait and a delay, originally being planned for summer release, Madou Monogatari: Fia and the Mysterious School, is finally out.

Well, did they use the delay to polish everything out? Ehhhh…

It seems that in terms of character and story, the game is solid and a lot better than Sorcery Saga/Sei Madou Monogatari. Gameplay and UI wise, according to Japanese Amazon reviews and tweets… the game is a mixed bag, which is typical for Idea Factory.

You can read some Amazon reviews here (Tumblr direct linking via text is borked)

I've seen one person say that the gameplay feel, it's actually better than the Saturn game. I dunno how much I believe that, and I'm the biggest critic of the Madou Saturn game, to a nitpicky degree.

A lot of the tweets I've seen on Twitter I refuse to call it X seem to be pretty critical of the gameplay outside of Compile Heart's QRT circle. But other than that, it seems to have a much warmer reception than Sei Madou. (people seem to love Momomo out of all the returning characters)

I think this YouTube comment I found on a Japanese review video perhaps sums up the biggest issue with the game:

Next to not having a PC release. The game goes for the same price as Dragon Quest 3's HD remake and Romancing SaGa 2. Of course, while it's not fair to compare Compile Heart's low budget games to Square Enix, the Japanese equivalent to over $50 is pretty steep…

Gameplay wise, I'm happy to see that compared to Idea Factory's past games, that it's much easier, not grind hefty or DLC padded at all! Good on them for listening.

I'm also glad that the characters are good and there don't seem to be any elements commonly present in Idea Factory's other games (afaik). Hell, even old Compile was guilty of using assault for comedic purposes, so I can agree with the one reviewer- Fia's Mysterious School is better than Madou Saturn in that department.

Seems like the fishing element has also been criticized. I wonder when devs will realize that fishing mini games are more annoying than good? :P

Is it worth buying? I think if we want more of the characters, then yes, get it… on a sale. $50 is too much for an Idea Factory game (I bought my games from them for $20 and under). Unless they give you collector's stuff with it, that's absolutely worth the steep price.

Honestly, the fact that the highest praise I've seen is for the characters and story makes me wish that this had been a visual novel instead. Idea Factory is quite good at making otome games, and that could have been easily channeled for a Madou game with elements akin to Serilly's Happy Birthday.

Iiiii don't see this getting a western release for almost a year, if they even wanna localize it to the west? Who knows. Cheers to people enjoying the game, apologies to the people who aren't if it didn't meet expectations.

I will say that it is weird that for some reason- and I don't know why- no one has made a proper Madou Monogatari successor with either the OG 123 and ARS in mind, or with the SFC and Sega Saturn game in mind.

It would be nice to have a modern era game that looks like this, pardon my extremely crude MSX style mock-up-

Errr I guess we can settle for fan games..?

[curtvilescomic]

Conan Saga #17 cover by Earl Norem

[rainbwspctrm]

May be goofing around.

Might be doing a bit of hex editing.

MIGHT be interested in translating a certain Win95 dungeon crawler.

To be fully transparent: Sorcery Saga (Madou Monogatari): Tower of the Magician!

Dunno if I'll do much, the dialogue's all over the main executable and even adding or removing a single byte from it makes the game entirely unlaunchable. (I found that out just trying to format the window title nicely!)

I'm also having to find stuff purely through mojibake shown in an existing YT playthrough.

The one major blessing I have, is that the game has no qualms with properly writing english text, having a font for it and all!

Might not go through with this since I have no Japanese fluency, unless other people are interested and willing to hop on board.