#sometimes ppl are gay

[lesbian-mike-wheeler]

to add to this, i think that showing vickie with a bf was so so important in warming up the audience to the idea of heteronormativity. like, yes it's a great storyline all on its own and can exist outside the context of byler, but if you think about it, vickie didn't need to be shown having a boyfriend in order to get the point across. robin would have still been unsure about whether or not vickie liked girls, they could have had her just off-handedly mention having a boyfriend, or just had her not have a boyfriend in the first place and it would have still made sense for robin to be unsure how vickie feels about her because it's the 80s and, like robin said to steve, it's not just rejection she has to worry about if she asks out the wrong girl.

my point is, it was very intentional for them to show us the scene between vickie and her boyfriend. not only does it parallel the mike/el/will scene, but it also plants a seed for the general audience to think about the fact that just because someone is in a heterosexual relationship, does not eliminate the possibility of them being queer. now, to the people of tumblr that is just a given because, you know, bisexuality exists and we have probably all read the lesbian masterdoc and are well-versed in the ways of compulsory heterosexuality. but to the general audience who is not viewing it from a queer perspective, this might very well be the first time they are ever thinking about this. so, in addition to the lovely wlw representation we are getting, i think robin's and vickie's storylines also serve the very important purpose of easing the audience into the idea of a character who they had presumed to be heterosexual breaking that norm and turning out to have been queer all along. this is important, because i feel like most lgbt representation in media depicts characters as knowing they are queer from the start. but the duffer brothers gifted us with the great stobin straight-bait of the century in season 3, and again with vickie and her boyfriend in season 4. they let the ga get comfortable with the idea of both robin and vickie being interested in men romantically, and then proceeded to rip the rug out from under them. i don't need to explain why that is going to be important going forward.

me and my friend were watching season 2 of stranger things last night/this morning and i wanted to share something i said to them.

i think mike and eleven being in a relationship isn’t something i dislike solely because i ship byler, but also Mike is such a queer coded character it feels wrong to put him in a relationship with a girl.

Same goes for eleven in a sense with her looking up to femininity (like with joyce, nancy and max), but she’s obviously traumatised as fuck from the lab so…? 😭

They also parallel Mike and Will to Robin and Vickie, and though Vickie has an onscreen kiss with a guy, it’s established that Vickie’s queer, and the kiss was more than likely meant to be uncomfortable because we as the audience know that Robin has a crush on Vickie.

I said it nearly feels like when some people in the fandom of The Owl House started shipping Amity — an established lesbian — and Hunter — a dude — which just always felt so wrong for obvious reasons.

Mike and Eleven are just MLM and WLW solidarity, duffers please 😭🙏

[inkskinned]

she's singing in another room and my dog is asleep at my feet. my grandma asked me why i haven't found a man yet and i laughed. oh, you know. i like my house clean.

my girlfriend is also my man is also "my partner" if i'm in a professional setting. yesterday we went to a ren faire and a man mimed at me - you're together? and at my delighted nod, his baffled, you're gay? made me laugh. a woman with rainbow hair said i love the two of you together. you're both so beautiful it's absurd.

my dad introduced my partner as my "..... friend. or whatever" the other day. he knows we're dating. in the same way, i was never able to get my sister's husband to stop saying that's gay like it's 2008. he still uses the word fa***t, and my sister's defense of him has always been well, he's just kidding.

my lover and i dance to old music in a tiny kitchen. we judge new music together and take food critique very seriously. we watch love is blind before we fall asleep and agree that if they had a queer season, it would be bloody but also make for excellent tv. of fucking course queer people would know someone for only 2 weeks and agree to get married. what are you saying.

at a bar with friends, a man puts his hand on my wrist. got a boyfriend? and yes, i do have a boyfriend, she's amazing. i am texting her while i wander around a gas station named after geese. i am visiting a swing state for a wedding. in the candy aisle i overhear: she's actually like a lesbian it's disgusting. two teenage girls with packaged sandwiches in their hands, giggling. no literally, like. i'm not, like. okay with her being there while we're all, like, naked and changing.

my girlfriend and i tailgate, drink gin and cider out of cups. from the frat group beside us, a man corrects himself with one of his friends: bro, i mean, nonbinary entity, and it makes everyone around him laugh, myself included. he razzes his friend the same way i would have killed for at 19 years old - like nothing happened, he continues: you apply sunscreen like an alien. he does a little sassy (and fairly accurate) dance interpretation of the motion. his friend is laughing so hard they're crying.

i am lucky, i live in a safe neighborhood in a safe state. my masc passenger princess comes up from DC. i drive her for an hour to where all the leaves are a violent arrangement of color. we walk along the trails, letting autumn into our blood. in this part of the state, there's a lot of pickup trucks and trump signs. when we chastely kiss before getting into the car, i accidentally make eye contact with a woman holding her child's wrist. she looks disgusted. she looks fucking pissed.

two hours later my girl and i are eating dinner on a patio, soaking in the last warmth of new england sun before the chill of winter sets in. we are giggling and trying to talk through plastic vampire teeth. at another table, i see a young woman sit up straighter. i watch her watch us. she blushes and takes her partner's hand from across the table. shy, like the taste of evening has just become something deeper.

it's worth it for this moment, i think. my lover is still humming the same song she's been singing for four days straight and i don't want to kill her for it. her guitar is beside my bed. her toothbrush is in my bathroom. in a few moments i will make us lunch. we are lucky enough to have found each other. it is lucky enough to be in love.

[pinbones]

I've seen a few posts about women and pants now and many of them are very good, and not to nitpick those posts or downplay religious sexism or anything, but I have to emphasise:

Somebody who DOESN'T live in a controlling religious country/cult/family is also affected by sexism. We all know that, right? Secular parts of the first world also have opinions about how women dress, including when it comes to trousers, especially in childhood and in institutions like schools and the workplace

Me and many people my age (20s) remember being forced into skirts, punished and shamed by parents & teachers & peers & possibly then bosses about what we wear not being feminine enough, and it wasn't by deeply religious sects. Many updates to dress codes are very new and sexist views are still in place in many institutions. Normalised societal misogyny wants women (and people they want to treat as women) to dress femininely, down to what KIND of pants they're allowed to wear (compare a pink top and jeggings to mens jeans and tell me these two women are treated the same. Hating women in pantsuits is still a sexist office joke today, and even those outfits are feminine compared to male suits, which raise eyebrows when worn by women). The women I know who wear trousers regularly are literally otherwise feminine, and all wear dresses to events.

I know trousers have become much more normalised over the past few decades in secular society (yay!! the result of many many years of effort and lawbreaking) but let's not be absolute when we talk about the pants concept lol. Especially within a larger conversation about female/transmasc/intersex/transfem masculinity and social perceptions, especially in an age of rising fascism

[steviesbicrisis]

Thinking about YouTuber Steve who’s gaining a lot of popularity with his weekly vlogs. The routine is very similar: he goes to work, hangs out with friends, acts silly for the camera, cooks for his roommate, watches movies with his roommate, goes out with his roommate.

His roommate is there a lot.

His new growing fanbase doesn’t take long to divide into factions regarding Steve’s dating life and sexuality; There are ships, OTPs, people who want him single so they can date him, and a surprisingly small portion which questions his heterosexuality, which gets always shut up by the following compelling arguments:

“stop assuming he’s gay.”

“Steve doesn’t look gay. He’s just a guy, a former jock, who loves to cook and hangs out with friends. A friend more than the others, but it’s his roommate so it makes sense, right?”

“And yes, they do cuddle while watching movies, but who doesn’t love a cuddle? You don’t have to be gay for that.”

“Sure, they hold hands when they go out but the city is crowded and they might lose each other.”

“Since when two male friends can’t be close without assuming that they’re gay?”

“Have you ever seen them kiss in ten minutes of weekly vlog? No, so drop your gay agenda already.”

And Steve Harrington, who started the whole vlog thing in the first place because he wanted to update his friends who live miles away and still doesn’t know how he got this much heteronormative bullcrap in his comments, has had enough.

One day, Steve Just-A-Guy Harrington, wakes up and chooses violence.

He replies to a tiktok comment that says “stop assuming he’s gay” with another video.

It begins with Steve glaring at the camera “oh yes please, stop assuming I’m gay.”

Then there’s a quick motion and Steve is pulling a curly haired guy into frame: Eddie, his roommate/platonic friend/totally not his boyfriend of 5+ years.

Eddie yawns, looking sleepily at the camera “are you vlogging?”

“I’m proving a point” Steve replies, then kisses him. They almost get lost into it, but Steve is a man on a mission, so he pulls back and turns to the camera.

“This is Eddie, my boyfriend. Not a friend who’s a boy, you delusional homophobes, we are together, a couple, in a relationship. We haven’t been just friends for over 5 years. We live together, he isn’t just a roommate.

And even if he was just my roommate, do you think I would live with this” he squeezes Eddie’s cheeks between his fingers and zooms in to show his face up close. Eddie blinks a couple of times, but let’s Steve do whatever he wants.

“Do you seriously think that I would live with this 24/7 and stay straight? Like, are you insane?” He gives Eddie a quick smack on the lips, leaving him blushing and more confused than ever.

Usually, it’s Eddie the one getting almost feral over Steve, not the other way around.

He doesn’t complain.

“So yeah, stop assuming I’m gay. Because I’m bi, you homophobic little shits.”

The video ends with Eddie pulling Steve for more than a quick peck on the lips, and Steve throwing the phone on their couch, face down.

Somehow, under Steve’s video, there’s still someone that comments “I mean, this doesn’t mean anything. It’s just bros helping bros, right?”

Steve is too busy making out with his “bro” to read it.

[lesbian-mike-wheeler]

having fun? oh is that what we're doing? bc i'm pretty sure my high school bf was not having fun when i "turned" lesbian "out of bum fuck nowhere" when i had been into men my entire life. sucks for him but i couldn't force myself to be straight any longer 😔

Another day, another Milkvan bullshit post 😂🤭

Who's gonna tell them? Because I'm seriously tired.

[sau-cen]

They make me ill

[faerygala]

showing off the boyf 💀♦️

[lineffability]

"people shouldn't draw or write crowle-" sounds like a skill issue I love male Crowley I love female Crowley I love femme Crowley I love trans Crowley I love genderqueer genderfuckery genderfluid Crowley I love nonbinary Crowley I love Crowley spindly thin with broad shoulders I love Crowley with curves I love Crowley in a dress I love Crowley in a suit I love crowley with big bazoonga boobs or tiny boobs or no boobs I love Crowley with perky tits and a dick i love crowley with a vagina I love Crowley with a penis i love crowley with a tdick I love Crowley with a boy pussy I love Crowley with snesises I love Crowley with barbie-smooth nothingness I love lesbian Crowley I love gay Crowley I love virgin Crowley I love experienced Crowley I love asexual Crowley I love sexual flirty Crowley I love awkward blushing Crowley I love long haired Crowley I love Crowley with a shorn head I love Crowley with any hairdo at all bc they're all HOT I love Crowley with earrings or black fingernails or pointy teeth or horns or none of these I love Crowley with a snake tattoo on his cheek chest arm or ass I love Crowley no matter in which incarnation at all as long as the hair is FIERY RED but actually I also love blackhaired book crowley idgaf just go wild it's what Crowley would want

[petr1kov]

sometimes i feel like queerbaiting is a lost art form that both peaked and was left on the 2010s. the cultural moment was such that we had shows wanting to be 'modern' and 'open-minded' enough to acknowledge that yes, gay people exist, so logically speaking our main characters could be gay and a portion of the audience would be interested in seeing it happen, but also still being homophobic enough that openly embracing and portraying any non heterosexual relationship was never even remotely considered as a real, actual possibility. and that's how we ended up with like. the guys from house and destiel and bbc sherlock etc

[icarusdiesatdawn]

jon liked my wiggly art on instagram y'all. this is insane to me

it only occured to me yesterday that I could follow the starkids on the Social Media(tm) because I'm such a "tumblr only" kinda guy yknow.

Like I had my obligatory insta for a while now because at some point people kept asking me where they could find my art, but I don't really use it much outside of posting my drawings sometimes. And I only follow other arstist I like or people I know irl. Literally youtube people only exist in my youtube for me

Anyway, absolutely WILD to me, but know that I know I can get REWARDED (starcan members possibly seeing my posts) it's motivating to post more fanart to instagram

((fyi: my tumblr sideblog for art is @cauldronsart and I use the same handle for insta as well, if anyone wants to find me there))

[wickedlyqueer]

So the Wicked is Gay video just reach 80k views and 1) I obviously love that it still consistently gets views each day, especially since this video is nearing it's 4 (!) year anniversary.

but 2) i especially love to think that's bc every night about 50 people walk out of the theater and go "hmm 🤨"

[luck-of-the-drawings]

smth smth about 'the thing that the character did that you thought was rly rly funny in the moment is actually linked to a terrible trauma that lies within said character.' or wahtever.

[noihavenosanitythanksforasking]

milevens are so silly when trying to disprove byler like

"ermmmm theyre delulu look at this one theory they made!!!"

girl. a good amount of the smaller theories DO sound crazy on their own. however you have to believe them ALONG with the main theories? acting like the main proof for byler is some girlie pointing out the fact that theres sunlight going into mikes closet in s4 is just not true and if thats all you know i can totally get why youd think were crazy but thats not all of it.

also if youre main proof that byler aint true is bc mike is straight and your using that to disprove the theories just get out dude 😭

[apotelesmaa]

Too many people want tsukasa to be viewed as socially cool. I think we need to accept that the only kind of cool wxs member is emu who befriends idols joined like 400 clubs and knows almost everyone. Emu has a million friends & most of the lines other characters have abt her are like “emu :)” meanwhile the lines abt tsukasa are all like “he is so weird.” & you want to pretend he’s cooler than her… be so serious…

Nene is also Lame & Rui is only cool to other nerds (gestures at pandemonium npcs). Crucially Tsukasa is an annoying theater kid. No annoying theater kid is popular or cool in highschool. It is central to his character and him being a weirdo who (canonically!) gets no bitches & yet somehow knows major celebrities is one of the funniest and most endearing things about him. Guy who in canon goes to school and people are like “it’s this weirdo again (sees he’s with rui) oh fuck oh no.”An (friends with everyone) & Akito (guy on sports teams) are the only cool characters at Kamiyama.

[collieii]

vash, who is so used to people leaving, so used to outliving others, dared to imagine a tomorrow with wolfwood. let himself dream that after the work was done they could set down their guns and just exist, together. and by the time he realizes this and admits it to himself, wolfwood is dying. i mean ok. sure. whatever.

[possamble]

I'm not allowed to be on social media for more than two seconds today but I just wanted to say that Laios will absolutely have his own reaction to all this as someone who would die for Falin but has also imprinted on Marcille as his Emotional Support Comphet White Girl Not-Girlfriend along the way