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Eddie, being the son of Loki and learning how to use magic. He quickly discovered the joy of using genderfluid magic that his mother used. Whether man or woman, Loki was his mother and had given birth to Eddie. Although Eddie had gotten into his head that he had to be a woman in order for Steve to like him. They were making out with Steve on top when Eddie discovered that it wasn't true.
"So, you like me being a woman?" Eddie asked and Steve pulled away from kissing Eddie's neck.
"I like you period, whether you're a man or a woman," Steve scoffed. "Or ambiguously in between. I like you and I like both."
"Right. So, do you want me to change back?" Eddie asked.
"Do you want to change back?" He asked.
"No. I like being a woman today," she replied.
"Then be a woman, and if you decide you feel like a man some other day, I'll be there to like it too," Steve said. "What did your mother call it again?"
"Genderfluid," she replied.
"I think it's pretty awesome," Steve said and Eddie grinned.
"It is cool," Eddie said. "It's still a queer relationship, right?"
"Duh!" Steve grinned and Eddie laughed.
Eddie flipped him so he was lying on his back and she was on top.
"I love you, Steve Harrington," Eddie said.
"I love you too," Steve grinned. "No matter what form you're in."
"Would you still love me if I was a worm?" Eddie asked.
"Oh my God! Do not turn into a worm! Do NOT! Oh my God! You did it anyway!"
#stranger things#stranger things s4#eddie munson#joseph quinn#eddie stranger things#steve harrington#eddie munson lives#steddie#steve x eddie#steve harrington x eddie munson#steddie ficlet#bisexual steve harrington#ambiguously queer eddie munson#genderfluid eddie munson#eddie is the son of loki#eddie's pronouns: she/he/they
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Just remembered something:
In all the talk about "drag queens will make your kids trans!" Or "queer media will make your kids trans!" (All of which isn't true), those aren't the reason I became trans.
I was already icky with the idea of being a "girl" and growing up to be a "woman" and being bound to the concepts of "female." Then I watched Good Omens, saw Crowley exist as a man and a woman, saw Beelzebub be whatever tf they are (iconic), and my little high school brain said "that! I want to be that!!"
I had also by now read Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology, and had read how (more than once) Loki shape-shifted into being a woman (technically one time he was a female horse but that's besides the point).
So remember, kids: drag queens and gay Disney characters won't make your kids trans, Neil Gaiman will.
[[Brief interlude: Obviously, I never 'became' trans, I simply found an identity that suited me more, and started making changes in my life that made me more comfortable with who I am. So, to make it very clear by being literal in a side note (I'm autistic), this is almost entirely satire, as a dramatization of how I identified with nonbinary]]
Honorable Mentions: Terry Pratchett, and Rick Riordan: who wrote the genderfluid child of Loki in Magnus Chase, and was the first ever time I'd heard of the concept.
#neil gaiman made me trans#nonbinary#genderfluid#trans#trans rights#genderfluid pride#nonbinary pride#gender theory#crowley#good omens#beelzebub#good omens beelzebub#good omens crowley#neil gaiman#neil gaiman norse mythology#norse mythology#loki#loki mythology#genderfluid loki#terry pratchett#rick riordan
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if i have to argue with another person that has one braincell, no empathy and cannot read and understand context clues i will actually shoot myself.
anyways yelena is confirmed ace (also heavily implied to be repulsed like based on what she says and acts in pale little spider, she’s disgusted and doesn’t understand sexual attraction) and heavily implied aro (as far as i know and have read for her comics).
another thing to note
^source: wikipedia.
and another: fuck devin grayson, because the nightwing thing (ew)
how can you say this and then say she isn’t ace? be so for real.
and to be true the only thing devin grayson has said is that she has no control over mcu yelena and what the mcu chooses to do with her character.
yall just took that, run with it. so now if i say that mcu valkyrie is a lesbian is that okay? no because im taking bi rep, but it’s okay when it’s aroace rep???
yall pushed for loki to be bi and genderfluid like in the comics, why can’t yall stand up for aroace yelena?
#im trying to be nice#but for the love of god#yelena belova#yelena belova aroace#aro#ace#aro rep#ace rep#aromantic rep#asexual representation#aroace
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Hi can you recommend something with genderfluid characters to play/watch/read ? (Plz i know 1 game , 2 films ,2 weebtoons and like 3 books with us in them I'm starving )
Hi, thank you for this ask, I'm sorry I took so long to answer! Sadly there isn't a lot of representation for us genderfluid folks in the media, but I tried my best to compose a list (keep in mind that I haven't read/seen all of these, so some of the representation might not be the best, sorry about that!!):
Books with genderfluid characters:
Alex Fierro (Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard triology)
Sallot Leon (Mask Of Shadows, main character)
Lua Novak (At the Edge of the Universe)
Riley Cavanaugh (Symptoms of Being Human, main character)
Harley (The Heartbreak Bakery, main love interest)
Carey (Can't Take That Away, main character)
Ash (Both Can Be True, main character)
Comics with genderfluid characters:
Rose (A Boy Named Rose, main character)
Yasel (Always Human)
Prince Sebastian (The Prince and the Dressmaker, main character)
Loki (Loki: Agent of Asgard, main character (much better representation than in the show!!))
Kitty (Lemonade Summer)
Shows with genderfluid characters:
Sabi (Sort Of, main character)
Loki (Loki, main character, but the genderfluid representation was sadly very little and dissatisfying)
Crowley & Aziraphale (Good Omens, angels & demons are canonically genderless beings but in my opinion there is a lot of genderfluid representation in the show, you can also read the book if you want to!)
Val/entina Romanyszyn (Gen:Lock)
#asks#genderfluid#nonbinary#transgender#lgbtq#lgbtq+#lgbtqia#lgbtqia+#queer books#lgbtq books#queer literature#advice
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Okay, Norse fan here! What you need to know is: Odin is a piece of SHIT.
And if Vox was Loki's kid, HE IS IN DANGER.
All of Loki's children have suffered because of Odin:
Hela: Goddess of Death, but was made so because no one was ruling the underworld at the time and Odin just decided she got it and now half her body is continuously rotting.
Fenrisúlfr: is a ginormous wolf that is chained up with a sword through the top of his mouth because of prophecy say he'd eat and kill Odin. Now said prophecy will definitely happen.
Jörmungandr: gaint serpent that was thrown into the earth's oceans as a baby, now encircles the world: often referred to as the world serpent. Was thrown into the ocean because he kills Thor after Thor kills Fenrisúlfr in the Prophecy.
Sleipnir: Loki gave birth to this one: long story short, Thor promised something that wasn't his to promise (I think a Goddesses hand in marriage for finishing a wall?) So Loki shapeshifted into a Mare and led off the builder's magical stallion and a few months later appeared with an 8 legged foal that Odin took as his stead. (Also ALL of Loki's kids have human intellect...so.)
Narfi and Vali, his twin sons...these two are the saddest. Loki fucked up, and to punish him Odin used the twins. To do this he turned Vali into a wolf who then killed Narfi. Odin then used the intestines of both brothers to chain Loki to the ground where a snake dripped acid into his eyes.
So Odin probably killed Vox in the other anon's AU too, especially if he was Loki's favorite, and then to deny Vox respite in his elder sister's domain...like damn Odin. But Odin is an ass like that so.
I knew Odin was an ass but I didn't know it was this bad D: oh no! Alastor's wish to fight a god might come sooner than anticipated. I knew about the horse one because my sister likes to tell me about it and I knew Loki liked to change his gender around (we stan a genderfluid queen 💅🏻 I too am genderfluid so I love Loki) but I didn't realize how fucked up it was. Marvel are cowards for not having this be the true lore in avengers
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Oh My God What Theory # Is This, I Don't Care
Spoilers for Loki and Loki: Agent of Asgard okay let's crack into it because it's late when I'm writing this and my brain is breaking.
Theory: Loki the series has been an adaptation of Loki: Agent of Asgard this whole time.
I've been complaining about this since season one, namely because Ewing does an amazing job with genderfluid Loki, and the Loki writers, well, you know. But actually story-wise, I think they actually did do their research. Let's break this down.
In the book, Loki takes on a job with the All-Mother to work for Asgard to do missions in exchange for expunging past sins.
In the show, to prevent himself from getting pruned, he takes on a job to work for the TVA to help with their missions.
In the book, he inadvertently hunts down and captures a future version of himself. In the show, he's been hired on specifically to help hunt down and capture an alternate version of himself.
Both selves (unwittingly) serve to provide him with the tools he needs to become a better version of himself and reach his true potential, outside of what the narrative (Asgard/Marvel comics and the TVA/He Who Remans/MCU) says he needs to be.
An unlikely ally (Verity in the comics, Mobius in the show) gives him the compassion and trust that he needs to believe in himself and his capacity for becoming whoever he wants to be.
Loki transitions into the void in the book in flames. In the show, he's pruned.
In the void, he meets his others: Kid Loki and Old Loki (not the future Old Loki, but the Loki he was) and a magpie. In the show, he also meets his others in the void: Kid Loki and Classic Loki (both of whom are similar in name and/or appearance to their counterparts in the comic scene), among others (not a magpie but a crocodile).
The show differs here, taking Loki out of the void but not yet concluding his arc of ego death. Because Loki in the show is still learning to believe in himself, to identify what he cares about, to become a hero and what that means. He's still too wrapped up in Sylvie--in himself--and also in being incapable of separating the fact that she is his variant but that she is also her own person with her own opinions and feelings and needs that differ from his. She wants to be free of the TVA's influence, but she also doesn't really want anything to do with him. Loki is still, at this point, at the equivalent in his personal growth to Kid Loki in Journey into Mystery, with the magpie version of himself, Ikol, as his companion (Kid Loki doesn't always listen to his advice, but he chooses to keep him around for guidance and company anyway). MCU Loki is fascinated by Sylvie, to put it kindly, and wants to keep her close to him as he figures out what she means to him and for his personal development. So ego death does not end when he leaves the void in the show, as it does in the comic.
Because in ego death, this happens:
Loki is focusing on his reasons to grow and change, rather than remain in the void or possibly actually die, or even say fuck it all, and become the person Old Loki (pretends he) wants him to become. His brother, his friend (Verity), and his capacity for change, his determination for change.
This feels very much like his conversation with Sylvie in episode five, and his ultimate realization at the end of the episode. "I want my friends back. I don't want to be alone." And even what he tells Don/Mobius about their relationship: "You saw something in me that I couldn't see in myself." They are his why, his reasons to finally finish the cycle of ego death and become the person he is meant to be, the person so many people have been speculating he's moving towards in this season's arc: The God of Stories.
Which is who they are in the comic when they emerge from the chrysalis of ego death and return to reality (and Verity).
In addition to grappling with his why and discovering it's a who (which I initially thought was himself, but in recalling that panel from AoA when he's in the void, I think it refers to himself AND those he cares about), in addition to finally admitting to himself and out loud that he cares about his friends and is afraid of being alone (WHICH LOKI BASICALLY ALSO SAYS IN THE COMIC)
We come to discover that the original ally, the original first friend, the one who in the source material gives Loki the courage and confidence to undergo ego death at last (the magpie has been heralding this event's approach throughout the comic), has been with him from the very start of his journey in the show as well.
We discover that B-15's true name is VERITY WILLIS.
In the comic, after he returns from ego death, he saves Verity by learning and collecting her STORY. In episode 5, he collects each of his friends and discovers each of their life stories on the timeline. (I worry this similarity to the comics may not yet be concluded in the show, but I'll get to that later.)
So there is something Loki does after ego death in the comics, in addition to being christened God of Stories
This is not the first time she has physically shifted gender in this comic, nor is it the first time she explains that this shape is also her. This does, however, mark a change in how characters in Ewing comics refer to Loki. In Defenders Beyond and The Immortal Thor (and I think Loki: The Liar? But that isn't a Ewing comic), Loki shifts to using they/them pronouns instead of he/him pronouns. This is very very subtle, and we have been badly burned by Marvel lying about canonizing Loki's genderfluidity in the MCU just last season. However,
this moment ultimately serves as a coming-out moment to Verity, since it's the first time she sees Loki presenting as a gender other than a man. So explicitly in the text, it is possible that we will get a similar moment in the finale or the next time we see Loki after the episode (either in a potential season 3 or another movie/series), since so much has to happen in this episode to wrap up the season/series.
The comic concludes with Loki rescuing Verity and their family by collecting their stories and stepping outside of the narrative until the world restarts again. I'm afraid Loki will not be able to save the multiverse before the end of the episode, and the only way forward will be to collect the life stories of his friends in order to save them and walk out of the narrative. Alternatively, this may not happen until a potential season 3. The reason I think this is because in the comic, they save their loved ones from an incursion. At the end of Doctor Strange 2, we watched the beginning of the incursion. We haven't heard anything about it since. The movies in the phase may need to establish this situation before Loki can do anything about it, and he's going to need to figure out how to save his friends and literally walk out of reality. (Please can we get Cloud in the MCU in a couple phases??? That's the natural progression of things, if we ignore everything that happens to Loki's character between AoA and DB, and frankly, we should.)
And finally, as I've been demanding since before season two aired, upon realizing that this show has been AoA Loki's arc all along, merely reimagined to fit the moment in the MCU's arc we are at right now, I am once again asking Marvel
WHERE IS THE COAT GIVE ME THE COAT IF I DON'T SEE THE COAT ON THURSDAY I AM GOING TO RIOT THIS WAS ALL FOR THE COAT GIVE ME THE FUCKING COAT YOU COWARDS
#loki#loki tv show#loki theories#loki season 2#loki season 2 spoilers#marvel comics#loki comics#loki: agent of asgard spoilers#loki: agent of asgard#verity willis
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‘I’m genderfluid.’ /Chucky cheese ref
The avengers think Thor has a sister. (And it’s not hela)
Tony’s distracted and half asleep after a mission fixing a bug in his suit that had stuttered his repulsers blasting time:
Thor: And so, like a true asgardian warrior! I threw that frost giant into the bifrost to go back to the icy lands it calls home!
Tony: Uh huh and everyone celebrated after am i right? Tony’s voice slightly sits on sarcasm.
Thor: Only my sister called my efforts a waste!
Thor’s laugh boomed out before he walked away, leaving Tony sat there eyebrows furrowed trying to recall if Thor had a sister.
Because they knew about Loki but was Tony just that tired he heard ‘she?’ instead of he or had he just forgotten Thor’s sister all together?
Tony: Thor wait?! Thor? What sister? What sisster?
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The second time this happened was during the routine training session.
Clint: You need to fix these bots Tony or i don’t know, make them a harder fight? Look at my victory streak.
Steve: Again, this is not a competition but a training exercise, focus on each other and fight as a team.
Tony: Great going Barton, you set the popsicle stand off.
Steve: Tony i-
Thor meanwhile had been watching Natasha fight for a good few minutes before adding his praise in for her: Well done Widow! Your fighting style reminds me of my sister in her younger days, alas, she can still throw a mean hook.
And again, Tony is once confused.
Steve: i wait- Sister?
Thor takes a moment and recalls if his brother is feeling more masculine or feminine as of late, so he corrects himself: My apologies captain, i meant he.
Tony: Loki…right and you have a sister too?
Clint and Natasha shared a look.
Thor: Yes! sometimes.
And more confusion.
Steve’s initial reaction: ???
Tony deciding he was not dealing with this at eleven PM.
And then the reaction when they find out.
Steve: Can we meet your sister?
Thor: ? You have many times Captain.
Steve: What.
Thor: Yes, I believe she threw your shield back at you one time.
Clint: Hold up, hold up, do you mean Loki?
Thor: yes?
Clint: like, Guy, Loki?
Thor: sometimes Loki is my brother, sometimes my sister but still my sibling.
Tony who’s sat in a corner cackles out because he finally got it (Natasha knew and had eventually figured it out she just wanted them to flounder around a bit more)
Clint: We are so stupid.
Thor: I am confused.
Steve: You and me bud, you and me.
Tony cackles harder at the thought of someone giving steve an updated ‘talk.’
Natasha: You all are idiots.
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𝐏𝐚𝐫𝐚 𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧: 𝐈𝐧𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐨 🌀
Dividers by @/strangergraphics-archive
Role(s): Primpara Age: ??? Gender: Genderfluid Pronouns: She/her Species: Elemental Spirit Birthplace: ??? Sexuality: ??? Associated Tag(s): Chronicled
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TW: Mentions of manipulation and death
Inferno is one of the four Ancient Evils locked away in the “Dream Realm” after a war against La Tierra Madre that supposedly took place before the beginning of time
During a time where Angelus would often storm the castle in a mad attempt to take over the kingdom, Nevermore grew so desperate to protect Aerith from the harm he was causing that she spoke a forbidden incantation, calling Inferno to inhabit her body and mind.
Inferno was nice at first, seemingly empathizing with the darkness she found in Nevermore's mind, and pretending to want to help.
Unfortunately, a series of events led to Inferno showing her true colors, and even assassinating Nevermore's mother, Kira.
The Elemental Four managed to lock Inferno away in Nevermore's subconscious, but she appeared again to help Nevermore in a fight against Thanos (which she lost anyways...).
But, choosing to hide away while the blip devastated the entire universe, Inferno didn't reappear until Loki caught Nevermore and the rest of the team off guard with a sudden betrayal that coincidentally ended up leading Inferno straight to the artifact she needed to separate herself from Nevermore's body and gain her own corporeal form.
The Avengers learned through Nevermore that the only way to defeat Inferno was to separate the two and kill her, so that's what they attempted to do... and almost failed, had it not been for Kira to return (more info on her revival to come in a future post) and steal Inferno away before having her executed.
But, Inferno didn't stay dead forever. If you remember from Scarlet's introduction, Nevermore was stabbed through with the sacred steel, which revives someone with someone else of the opposite moral alignment (which I briefly mentioned here). Hence, Inferno's revival along with Nevermore.
And she hasn't been seen since...
#chronicled: inferno#madd#maladaptive daydreaming#maladaptive daydreams#para portal#paraportal#paracosm#parache
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7 Stories for Genderfluid Visibility Week!
This week is Genderfluid Visibility Week, so the Duck Prints Press rec list contributors present: 7 of our favorite stories with genderfluid characters! Note that, in a lot of settings, it wouldn’t make sense for these characters to label themselves with the words we use now, so it can be challenging to identify characters who are genderfluid. For several of the characters on this list, their gender identities are open to interpretation, and while the Press contributors who suggested these books have interpreted them as genderfluid, it would also be valid to interpret these characters as (for example) non-binary or trans. If you read these books and didn’t feel the character was genderfluid – we support you! But they spoke to us as examples of genderfluid characters, and so we’ve included them.
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Dreams Bigger than Heartbreak by Charlie Jane Anders
They’ll do anything to be the people they were meant to be — even journey into the heart of evil.
Rachael Townsend is the first artist ever to leave Earth and journey out into the galaxy — but after an encounter with an alien artifact, she can’t make art at all.
Elza Monteiro is determined to be the first human to venture inside the Palace of Scented Tears and compete for the chance to become a princess — except that inside the palace, she finds the last person she ever wanted to see again.
Tina Mains is studying at the Royal Space Academy with her friends, but she’s not the badass space hero everyone was expecting.
Soon Rachael is journeying into a dark void, Elza is on a deadly spy mission, and Tina is facing an impossible choice that could change all her friends lives forever.
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Norse Mythology by Neil Gaiman
In Norse Mythology, Gaiman stays true to the myths in envisioning the major Norse pantheon: Odin, the highest of the high, wise, daring, and cunning; Thor, Odin’s son, incredibly strong yet not the wisest of gods; and Loki–son of a giant–blood brother to Odin and a trickster and unsurpassable manipulator.
Gaiman fashions these primeval stories into a novelistic arc that begins with the genesis of the legendary nine worlds and delves into the exploits of deities, dwarfs, and giants. Once, when Thor’s hammer is stolen, Thor must disguise himself as a woman–difficult with his beard and huge appetite–to steal it back. More poignant is the tale in which the blood of Kvasir – the most sagacious of gods – is turned into a mead that infuses drinkers with poetry. The work culminates in Ragnarok, the twilight of the gods and rebirth of a new time and people.
Through Gaiman’s deft and witty prose emerge these gods with their fiercely competitive natures, their susceptibility to being duped and to duping others, and their tendency to let passion ignite their actions, making these long-ago myths breathe pungent life again.
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Heaven Official’s Blessing by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu
A GOD FALLEN, A GHOST RISEN
Born the crown prince of a prosperous kingdom, Xie Lian was renowned for his beauty, strength, and purity. His years of dedicated study and noble deeds allowed him to ascend to godhood. But those who rise may also fall, and fall he does–cast from the heavens and banished to the world below.
Eight hundred years after his mortal life, Xie Lian has ascended to godhood for the third time, angering most of the gods in the process. To repay his debts, he is sent to the Mortal Realm to hunt down violent ghosts and troublemaking spirits who prey on the living. Along his travels, he meets the fascinating and brilliant San Lang, a young man with whom he feels an instant connection. Yet San Lang is clearly more than he appears… What mysteries lie behind that carefree smile?
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She Wears the Midnight Crown, an anthology of sapphic masquerade stories, specifically “Are you in love with the squid?” by D. A. Hernández
She Wears the Midnight Crown features 17 stories of wlw characters exploring their relationships as they develop, grow, and change during (literal or figurative) masquerades! Our contributors have stretched their imaginations to present innovative stories exploring what a masquerade can be…and, of course, tell rich, engaging tales of wonderful queer folk finding love, companionship, acceptance, the queer platonic relationship of their dreams, or the found family they deserve. The collected works feature characters in all the colors of the Pride rainbow, queer and genderqueer, and these diverse individuals inhabit worlds ranging from science fiction settings where everyone must be masked to breathe, to fantasies where no one wears a literal mask but everyone shows the world a false guise, to iterations of the real world where some people lean into deception.
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Rust in the Root by Justina Ireland
It is 1937, and Laura Ann Langston lives in an America divided—between those who work the mystical arts and those who do not. Ever since the Great Rust, a catastrophic event that blighted the arcane force called the Dynamism and threw America into disarray, the country has been rebuilding for a better future. And everyone knows the future is industry and technology—otherwise known as Mechomancy—not the traditional mystical arts.
Laura disagrees. A talented young mage from Pennsylvania, Laura hopped a portal to New York City on her seventeenth birthday with hopes of earning her mage’s license and becoming something more than a rootworker.
But four months later, she’s got little to show for it other than an empty pocket and broken dreams. With nowhere else to turn, Laura applies for a job with the Bureau of the Arcane’s Conservation Corps, a branch of the US government dedicated to repairing the Dynamism so that Mechomancy can thrive. There she meets the Skylark, a powerful mage with a mysterious past, who reluctantly takes Laura on as an apprentice.
As they’re sent off on their first mission together into the heart of the country’s oldest and most mysterious Blight, they discover the work of mages not encountered since the darkest period in America’s past, when Black mages were killed for their power—work that could threaten Laura’s and the Skylark’s lives, and everything they’ve worked for.
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The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin
A lone human ambassador is sent to the icebound planet of Winter, a world without sexual prejudice, where the inhabitants’ gender is fluid. His goal is to facilitate Winter’s inclusion in a growing intergalactic civilization. But to do so he must bridge the gulf between his own views and those of the strange, intriguing culture he encounters…
Embracing the aspects of psychology, society, and human emotion on an alien world, The Left Hand of Darkness stands as a landmark achievement in the annals of intellectual science fiction.
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Alanna: The First Adventure, by Tamora Pierce, as well as all the books in the Song of the Lioness series
From now on I’m Alan of Trebond, the younger twin. I’ll be a knight.
And so young Alanna of Trebond begins the journey to knighthood. Though a girl, Alanna has always craved the adventure and daring allowed only for boys; her twin brother, Thom, yearns to learn the art of magic. So one day they decide to switch places: Thom heads for the convent to learn magic; Alanna, pretending to be a boy, is on her way to the castle of King Roald to begin her training as a page.
But the road to knighthood is not an easy one. As Alanna masters the skills necessary for battle, she must also learn to control her heart and to discern her enemies from her allies.
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We would love to read more stories with genderfluid representation – tell us about the ones you’ve read!
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Next Time, I Got Your Back
Fic for @fluffbruary prompt — umbrella and @februaryficletchallenge day 8 prompts — Timeless + Sparkle.
Fandom: The Avengers (Marvel Movies)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Pairing: Bucky Barnes/Loki
Tags: Established Relationship, Banter, Genderfluid Loki
Summary: Loki has a present ready for Bucky’s birthday to make him never forget how they first met.
Wordcount: 461
Also created for: @buckybarnesevents’ Build a Bucky bingo february prompt — Bad Reputation / @sweetspicybingo — Good boy / @multifandom-flash R2 card #2005 — Umbrella of Togetherness
Excerpt:
“I thought you didn’t celebrate Midgardian birthdays,” Bucky pointed out with a chuckle, but reached out to grab the wrapped item.
Loki didn’t let go. “And I thought humans just faked a smile when handed a gift and pretended they liked it despite how ugly it was.”
“That’s also true,” Bucky recognised. “But you have great taste in everything, so I don’t think I’ll have to fake it.”
“You better,” Loki gave up before letting him take the gift.
Continue reading on Ao3!
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sometimes i'm fine and then i remember sylvie is addie larue coded.
OKAY HEAR ME OUT.
she's grown up in apocalypses- places where no one can remember her. where she can't make a mark on the world or the timeline. sylvie has never had a lasting relationship or friendship with anyone since she has to keep jumping to a new timeline. if she is spotted and makes a mark on someone or a place, the tva will find her.
it's genuinely so sad, and so justified on why she hates the tva so much and 'selfishly' just wants to live. like addie, she is invisible to the world and had to spend years, centuries even, growing up in the destruction and death of countless people.
all they both want to do is experience the joys of life, and have true relationships. to make a mark on this world (in sylvie's case, causing chaos and burning the tva to the ground). even if that's just working at mcdonald's and listening to records, she savours those moments. the bartender who knows her usual, the record store manager who calls her by her name, the boy working at the mcdonald's who admires her.
she finally has a timeline to enjoy, and she's not being hunted by an organization that wants to kill her for what? her crimes? for being who she is? her nexus event was (in my opinion, i strongly believe this) becoming a girl. they would prune her for 'crimes against the sacred timeline' because the timeline decrees her to stay male for the rest of her life.
(this also explains the lack of genderfluid lokis in this universe because hwr really said- nah make the lokis all male-presenting)
when a version, a young 8-year-old sylvie, decides she is a girl and shapeshifts into one, the tva takes her and destroys her entire life just because another universe has people with unique thoughts and feelings. she grows up without any lasting relationships, in apocalypses, invisible and wanting to live.
just like addie.
this is spiralling into a sylvie rant and i didn't even mention addie that much but you get what i'm saying. they're also both bisexual and when they meet a certain dark-haired person who is a twin soul that's had a terrible deal as well, they lean on each other and form a bond.
tl;dr sylvie and addie are both invisible, can't make any lasting relationships, and just want to live when they were screwed over at a young age.
#the invisible life of addie larue#addie larue#henry strauss#loki#loki finale#sylvie laufeydottir#sylvie#loki series#loki rant#sylvie rant#fandom rant#my faves#i really needed to get that out im sorry#it hit me during my rewatch and i went holy shit#books#sylki#mine#trans sylvie
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Sylki Rewrite
(Note: Although I don’t like Sylki, I don’t have a problem with anyone who ships them.) Warning: Internalized Homophobia Mention
Two weeks ago, I binged the Loki series. To put it shortly, I loved it! Loki has one of the best character development I’ve ever seen. He moved past his insecurities and realized what he truly wanted- to be loved and seen. The time aspect was easy to digest and didn’t complicate or overinflate the concept too much. I loved the new characters, especially Mobius and O.B. Mobius and Loki’s chemistry was amazing and so natural, which makes sense since Mobius was his first friend. O.B. was lovable and so nerdy. I hope they both return to future projects. Though I didn’t connect with her as much, B-15 was a good addition, and would be happy to see her return. When it comes to Sylvie, I'm mixed with her. She’s well-written for the most part, but I didn’t like the Sylki romance in S1, and her attitude got irritating in S2 (I'll most likely write a separate post on it). Alongside thinking Loki being attracted to a version of himself is weird, their romance felt rushed and unnatural. I couldn’t really see Loki being attracted to/like/in love with someone that quickly and Sylvie looked like she barely tolerated him, even in the second season. Honestly, I think this romance was pushed by Disney instead of the writers, mainly because there was a moment in Episode 4 where Mobius rants about how strange the attraction was. I’d like to think that was the writers calling out Disney for how weird this idea was. I would’ve liked it more if Loki and Sylvie had a sibling-like relationship. I would’ve written it where Loki feels protective of Sylvie because he sees a bit of himself in her such as his anger, loneliness, and wish to belong somewhere. But, he also respects her because she lived alone and in survival mode, teaching herself how to use magic and escape death. In turn, Sylvie sort of resents Loki, especially when he mentions his relationship with Frigga, since he lived in Asgard and had a family while she lived alone and in fear. I would have a scene where Sylvie lashes out at him (maybe when he accidentally breaks the Tempad), calling him a fool for taking his family’s love for granted. On the other hand, Loki snapped and said how she had the chance to be her true self while Loki lived under Thor’s shadow and Asgard’s expectations. Maybe go as far as to mention how he felt he had to hide his bisexuality and genderfluidity out of fear of not being accepted. By the end of the argument, both realize how their pain does not absolve others and that there is good and bad in their lives. Other than the kiss scene, the scene with Loki trying to stop Sylvie from killing He Who Remains was great.
I was so glad S2 left the ship behind. It was one of the reasons why I think S2 is a big improvement. I can’t really describe their relationship since there are moments when they get along but there are others when Sylvie is really standoffish and doesn't seem to like Loki. Maybe the closest description would be bickering siblings, which is close to what I wanted.
Did anyone else get nervous that there would be a Sylki kiss in the S2 finale? I was, especially when he was trying to stop her from killing HWR again. If they did, it would've messed with my enjoyment since there was no indication in previous episodes that they were continuing the romance. Thankfully, they didn't and the finale was perfect, even if it broke my heart that Loki will live alone for as long as he's alive. I wanted him to be happy with everyone.
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Thank you @galaxythreads for taking the time to explain your points so thoroughly ! If you don’t mind I’m going to answer from my side blog because I haven’t posted anything on it for a while and it’s easier for me if I post all my Loki related meta in one place.
Before I start, I don’t mean to invalidate any headcanon or interpretations of the show, just fill in some details you’ve missed from canon.
Since Sylvie’s nexus event doesn’t have an explicit explaination, I guess we’re all doing speculation. I just think some theories are more likely than others if we take everything in consideration. I tend to follow the rule of Ocham’s razor : the theory that requires the less twists and turns and over-interpretations is more likely to be false. But of course, it’s not always the case ^^.
Also, thankfully I have a copy of the scripts in another tab so I'll be able to copy past instead of looking for the exact lines in the show and transcribe them ^^.
1- Loki stealing the Tesseract HAD to happen otherwise Endgame wouldn't
I need to confess I have only watched Endgame once, so I don’t remember exactly what happens in 1970 ^^. But I don’t think it’s relevant because I agree with the premise. Loki stealing the Tesseract had to happen so Endgame happens the way it does.
And no one ever said otherwise.
Judge Renslayer : “ What they did was supposed to happen. You escaping was not. “
The events of Endgame happened the way they were meant to and nothing has been retconned.
I suppose the reason why this lines confuses you is because you seem to assume the TVA operate under logical and “fair” rules. But it doesn’t. The TVA is a Kafka-esque hell where everything is meant to be as absurd and confusing as possible for the prisoners. Also, the TVA is entirely based on a lie. It lies to it’s agents, even the Judges don’t understand the laws they are applying. If it seems that nothing makes sense, it’s because at this point we know nothing of it’s real purpose and goals.
Also, this line by Renslayer sounds exactly like the paradox of Judas in theology. Jesus HAD to be betrayed to put God’s plan in motion, but Judas is still guilty of his action and deserves punishment. And the making off confirms the TVA is written as a religious cult, with its idols, its corrupted elites and its all powerful leader.
Basically, it’s a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation.
Now if you wonder what are the criteria : everything that helps the TVA to reach its mysterious goal is supposed to happen, and everything that hinders them has to be deleted. The Avengers beating Thanos ? Good. A mischievous Loki messing around with the Tesseract ? Less good.
The TVA’s true goal has not been officially revealed yet because it seems season 2 will dive deep into its origins, but Michael Waldron confirmed a few fan theories. The main goal is to prevent the existance of Kang. The only requirement for a timeline to be kept is that it has to be Kang-less. We can assume if Thanos hadn’t been defeated, it would have caused a butterfly effect that would have left to Kang’s great great grandparents meeting, or something silly like that. Meanwhile, Steve Rogers was allowed to stay in the past because it doesn’t cause the birth of a Kang. It seems the Sacred Timeline is relatively permissive for ordinary poeple, as long as they don’t accidentally cause the creation of a Kang.
2- Sylvie and Loki holding hands in episode 4 was in an apocalypse, ergo, no nexus
Yeah, this one is a plothole. I guess it’s a classic situation of “the magic of love is so powerful it defies logics”. It’s cheesy and a bit dumb, but this is a Disney kids show.
3. Sylvie being a girl doesn't work as a nexus event because loki is genderfluid
Nothing in the show even hints it could be the case. Little Sylvie was about 10 years old when she was pruned, and neither Mobius or Renslayer or our main Loki seem surprised by the existance of a female Loki. The only one surprised is Classic Loki, a character who literally comes from a 60s comic book. It’s like those jokes about the First Doctor being sexist in Doctor Who crossover events.
Even in the comics, female presenting Lokis, AFAB or AMAB, seem pretty rare (I've never heard of a confirmed AFAB Loki in the comics, but I don't see why there wouldn't be any. Maybe Double Trouble Loki ?). I am not the biggest expert in the continuity of the comics though and I don't know how many distinct versions of Loki exist so I'm talking a bit lightly here.
And the Goddess of Mischief line you quoted in your post feels a bit out of context.
Sylvie : “The universe wants to break free, so it manifests chaos. Like me being born the Goddess of Mischief. And as soon as that created a big enough detour from the Sacred Timeline, the TVA showed up, erased my reality, and took me prisoner.“
The topic of this conversation is order and chaos. The key word is “Mischief”, not “Goddess”. What Sylvie seems to explain here is that the existance of Lokis is a proof that the universe needs chaos. And since Lokis get pruned far more often than average, she’s right about it. Also, the phrase “as soon as it created a big enough detour” would not work if it was about gender. Unless she is AMAB and the “detour” was her transitioning (but nothing suggests little Sylvie just started presenting that way). That would be a really cool plot twist, but I’m not sure Disney is ready.
Also, having variants of another gender doesn’t prove an individual is genderfluid. The crew saying that our MCU Loki is genderfluid means little if it doesn’t lead to a confirmation in canon. This is shallow queerbaiting and genderfluid poeple deserve better.
There is one way her gender could play a role in her Nexus event though : she got arrested for playing with a Valkyrie figure. The most popular theory is that she was about to become a Valkyrie herself, something a male Loki would be less likely to do. But since she got arrested at the age of 10, there is at least one other Loki out there with Sylvie’s face who lived her life as needed by the TVA.
4. The TVA forgot about Sylvie's master plan by epi 4
I don’t see how ???
Sylvie’s plan was to cause a distraction so she could access to the Time Keepers chamber, and it worked. Loads of agents were dispatched to prevent the disaster. I’m not really sure how you deactivate a Reset Charge. By pruning it probably. But what happens when a Reset Charge activates in the Void ? Wow, this is the Portals paradox again ^^.
I’m not sure how putting Reset Charges at specific places endangers the timeline though. I would say it erases specific events from time and causes the risk that they happen differently when time heals itself, but this is pure speculation.
Also the TVA is still very actively searching for Sylvie :
ANALYST 1: There’s nothing, sir.
MOBIUS: Even with the magnified nexus threshold? That one should be setting off alarms if somebody steps on the wrong leaf.
The whole agency is working on monitoring every single timeline with accute algorythms to find the two fugitives. That’s how big of a deal Sylvie and Loki are to them.
5. people shouldn't be able to make choices (nexuses) because there is no free will
The answer is very simple though : if there was no free will, there would be no need for a TVA.
There is no way to remove a person’s free will, except by extreme brainwashing or hypnosis, like what happened to Bucky. But it’s not how the TVA operates. Even under the most severe authoritarian regime, poeple keep their free will and capacity to make choices, at least inside their head. And the fact the TVA needs to constantly police the entirety of time proves poeple have a mind of their own.
Also, the use of the word “pruning” says everything. Those darn timelines won’t stay inert for more than a few minutes before a new sprout starts growing somewhere.
6. there has never been ANYONE with mind powers to face Alioth before Sylvie
Ok, this one made me smile because it had never crossed my mind. I think the idea of reading inside the mind of a giant dragon shaped cloud is absurd enough to be a once in a lifetime experience. But It made me think about the whole chain of events that lead to that moment.
First, one would not immediately assume Alioth is sentient enough to have a mind to read. Also, if I was on the run from a giant-ass dragon the side of a small country, I would probably run in the opposite direction. The only reason why the idea crossed Sylvie’s mind is because she accidentally touched one of its tendrils and survived it. Which must be a pretty rare occurence too.
But let’s imagine a mind reader accidentally touched the dragon and had a mental flash of a big castle. What would they do of this information ? If they had been pruned recently, they wouldn’t even know where they are or what this is all about. Sylvie came to the Void with a purpose. She knows where he is (in a dimension at the end of time) and she knows what she is looking for (some sort of king hiding beyond the end of time). So she makes the mental connection that the dragon knows how to access the castle.
And yeah, the number one rule to survive in the Void is to hide and avoid the big dragon at all cost.
Oh, and Kang absolutely wanted to be found. He even admitted he helped Loki and Sylvie (a popular theory is that he’s the one who alerted the TVA for Lamentis). Remember that all of this was part of his plan ! It’s like in The Matrix, Neo and Trinity are not a bug, they’re a feature.
7. loki consistently forgetting he has magic
I agree, the magic system in the MCU makes little sense. I don’t think Loki uses his magic less in the show. I think he uses it far more than he did in movies. We see him shapeshift, dry his clothes, lift a freaking building with his mind (wow, that was really badass !). I don’t know if magic can produce electricity . I suppose it does, Kid Loki has to power his Polybius game arcade with something ^^.
8. The tva has no solar power for anything (like tempads, like Sylvie's)
I don’t think the TVA has a sun to begin with ^^. Have you seen those guys ? They look like they have never touched grass in their lives ! They don’t even have aquariums :,( !
More seriously, we never saw TVA agents on the field for more than a few minutes, and they’re never alone so even if one had a faulty tempad, it would not endanger them.
Also, TVA tech is extremely obsolete. I don’t think solar power fits the whole mid-century cold war era vibe.
And you overestimate Sylvie’s intellect I think ^^. I’m not saying she’s an idiot, but she’s also kinda dumb. More seriously, her plan was completely whack. She ran right into the den of the wolf with almost no preparation. She could have asked C-20 more questions, or enchant more agents. She didn’t even know magic doesn’t work in the TVA. It’s very in line with Sylvie’s character, she’s impulsive and never thinks in the long term. Not charging her tempad is 100% Sylvie behaviour.
9. rather than kill anyone, Kang decided to make a big void they would all go to
“When we prune a branched reality, it’s impossible to destroy all of its matter. So we move it to a place on the timeline where it won’t continue growing.“
I’m not sure how the Grandmaster’ weapon works, or if there is any form of continuity inside the MCU when it comes to the laws of physics. But for the sake of the argument, I’ll assume the Grandmaster’s weapon dissipates your atoms in the air.
Pruning isn’t disintegrating. When a timeline is pruned, a small area is restored to it’s previous state. It’s a bit like turning your game off so you can start from your previous save (unless you’re playing old Animal Crossing and the local time agent mole yells at you for 10 minutes. Yeah, I hate that dude ^^). But it creates some “residual” events that have to be destroyed in some way. Like a bit of tape cut from a movie and replaced by another one.
Once a small section of a timeline has been removed, it has to be destroyed in some way. The Void is the junkyard and Alioth is the big racoon feeding on the junk.
Though, I agree that the TVA could kill poeple first and prune them later. But I think pruning poeple alive says a lot about the cruel and dehumanizing nature of the organization. The upper-crust would rather throw poeple in the trash alive than soil their hands. I don’t think the common agents know what pruning really is, though. They probably think they desintegrate poeple.
10. removing someone from a timeline creates a long-standing butterfly effect
“Reset charges prune the affected radius of a branched timeline, allowing time to heal all its wounds. Which sounds like a nice way of saying disintegrate everything in its vicinity.”
A reset charge prunes everything on a small zone. That’s why agents have to watch out for the red line. Once the Nexus event has spread too much, the timeline cannot be reset anymore.
I’ll try to think of an exemple. When Loki arrived in the desert after stealing the Tesseract, he meets some locals. If the TVA had not intervened, we can assume those poeple would have spread the word and it would have had consequences. The TVA arrived right before it happened and reset this small patch of desert to how it was before Loki arrived, sending the witnesses into the void. We can also assume they reset the Stark Tower lobby, to restore OG Loki and erase all memories from the Avengers’ mind.
I assume they can probably prune a larger zone using several reset charges, or a bigger one. But once the butterfly effect is too important, nothing can be done anymore. Also the TVA’s methods seem to imply they try to cut as little as possible, probably to avoid causing more instability.
Loki : Let me ask you this, why don’t we just travel back to before the attack, when the Variant first arrives?
Mobius : Nexus events destabilize the time flow. This branch is still changing and growing, so you gotta show up in real time.
The TVA doesn’t remove poeple from reality. It only removes one “instance” of a person. When someone is pruned, it’s like they’ve been duplicated and their “original self” is still on the timeline. The little cartoon PSA in episode one illustrates it very well. And this one trippy scene in Quantumania ^^. As our TVA Loki is taken away by the Minute Men, OG Loki is being taken to Asgard.
So no, a Reset Charge cannot remove a whole existing timeline. When Sylvie says her reality has been erased, it doesn’t mean her whole timeline disappeared in the Void. Somewhere, a little princess Loki decided to play with the dragon toy instead of the Valkyrie and fulfilled her approved destiny and caused the Avengers to assemble. But this reality is not Sylvie’s reality anymore. It is a similar looking Asgard where her parents have another little girl who look like her and forgot her mere existance.
In a sense you were right in your question. Changing one little element causes a butterfly effect that prevents future events from happening, therefor destroying a whole potential world. Also, remember the TVA exists out of linear time. Those realities are not just potential, at some point in the TVA's relative past, they were actual timelines full of unique poeple and civilisations. The TVA snuffed them from existance by removing one single event.
And the TVA trials are useful. Everyone at the TVA is a Variant so I assume they have to recruit their agents one way or another ^^. Interestingly, Renslayer condemned Loki to be reset, not pruned. I wonder if the TVA already recruited Lokis. Plot twist, Casey was a Loki all along XD.
I really hoped I answered to some of your questions. I apologize for this wall of text ^^. I really tried to explain everything the best I could, based on interviews, and what I got from canon. Of course I could be wrong ^^. We simply don’t know enough.
But the leaked trailer for season 2 seems to confirm we’ll learn a lot about the TVA. And of course there are the good old insider leaks, to take with a pinch of salt.
Thank you again for your encouragements !
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Loki's Genderfluidity in the MCU: A Theory
So I'm going to preface this by saying that generally my answers to any questions that are not answered by canon have two sides: why I think the writers didn't answer the question (or how they may have thought they answered the question), and my theory relating to the canon answer. Within these two sides there might be multiple reasons (i.e., Side one may have been caused by script cuts or homophobia at some level of writing/editing, and both could easily be the case simultaneously, as maybe the writers included it and the studio demanded a script cut at a certain point, etc.).
So as to why Loki has not been explicitly shown to be genderfluid in the MCU until (technically) a split-second shot of a TVA file, is probably more because of erasure/fluidphobia or a disinterest in incorporating his comic gender into his mainstream movie character at some level in the production process. Why the half-hearted "representation" was included in the show without anything more explicit was likely A) a continued fluidphobia or disinterest at some level, B) a distinct lack of understanding of what genderfluidity actually is, and therefore probably only placed in the file as a bit of foreshadowing to Sylvie's gender reveal, or C) a laziness and disinterest in doing any research whatsoever in either genderfluidity or the source material (Agent of Asgard, etc.). Likely a combination of these.
But that's boring and disheartening. So I'm going to ignore the IRL reasons why Loki's genderfluid rep fell flat, and focus on why Loki hasn't been shown to be genderfluid in the MCU until technically the show but not even really then.
I've seen theories that he hasn't figured this out about himself yet, and while that may be true (I didn't discover I'm genderfluid until I was about 22 or 23), I don't usually subscribe to that theory.
My genderfluidity (and that of other people I've met) tends to change between genders by the day, though occasionally I go multiple days in a row as the same gender, or my gender changes within a single day. However, I'm also human, and (as far as I'm aware) have an average human lifespan of less than a hundred years, or only a few years past a hundred if I'm lucky. So daily changes between genders is pretty reasonable, but even other real-life genderfluid people sometimes stay the same gender for whole months or years or even decades.
Loki, on the other hand, is not human. I don't know what the average Jotun lifespan is, but I think he's currently about 1500 years old, and Asgardians live about 5000 years, I believe. So it makes sense that things might be less permanent for him than they are for other people, and things that may change more quickly for humans may change more slowly for him.
Therefore, I think Loki in the MCU (ignoring for the sake of this that any inclusion or omission in media is a decision made by writers, in other words, pretending for a hot second that Loki is real in the context of his story) is genderfluid, and that he's aware that he's genderfluid throughout and before the events of the MCU. The reason he only presents as Tom Hiddleston's likeness, and is referred to as he/him and Thor's brother, is that it is currently a man several decades for him. (If this does not make sense to you grammatically, compare to how I describe days when I am a woman as woman days; days when I am a man as man days; likewise, Loki is having a man decade and a half.) At the least, his current period of being a man has lasted 12 years, from Thor (2011) until now (though, actually, Loki season 2 Loki is technically 2012 Loki, so maybe he's only had a man year? Which would make the original timeline Loki's period at least 5 years as a man. God, I hate time travel). This is assuming he was not a man before 2011 (consecutively; I don't think this is the only period he has been a man in his life) and would not have continued as a man following his death (if he died) in Infinity War. But (aside from very short flashbacks) this is the only period of time we see him, so he could conceivably have had periods of other genders. (And we don't know for sure that the flashbacks came after he learned how to shapeshift; maybe he wasn't a boy in those scenes, but was either not yet out or unable to make his body match his identity and so we as the viewers made incorrect assumptions about his gender.)
I also wonder if the moment we see from Sylvie's childhood, just before she's taken in, could have also been part of Loki's past. Either A) it is just after they both come out and begin socially transitioning (Sylvie as a transgirl, Loki as genderfluid and a girl at that moment), and Sylvie gets taken in for having a good heart but perceives the reason as being that she's a girl (see previous theory post), whereas Loki isn't playing Save Asgard and so there's no reason to arrest him in this moment (I think the game was less the main reason and more the last straw for Sylvie), or B) The entire memory, including the Save Asgard game but not the arrest, is shared by both Sylvie and Loki, and Sylvie was arrested for a different reason. The point is, Loki could have had a time as a child when he was a girl and learned to shapeshift so his appearance fit his inside feelings (or Frigga did it for him when he was really little to ease the dysphoria).
#(i'm using he/him pronouns for loki even when talking about girl days because this theory has him currently using those pronouns#so i'm using current pronouns for past moments)#loki#loki theories#loki tv show#sylvie laufeydottir#loki season 1 spoilers#genderfluid loki#seriously though how hard is it to just ask a genderfluid person what gf means#and then do that
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hey mary, do you like Loki? Did you watch the finale?
(this ask has spoilers)
Before the show, no. I didn't like Loki at all. This is funny because MCU Loki was the only version of the character I couldn't stand, while in Assassins Creed, Loki easily became one of my favorite video-game characters. Of course, that's on Disney and the way they poorly wrote the characters as this sociopath genocide who envies his brother and never tried to reconnect with his original race or anything. Even after Ragnarok, with Loki stealing the Stone, he was just off for me. And then the first season came, and he was still showing dictator behaviors, acting like he had the right to control everybody else, and I was like "Ugh white man" - Yes, MCU Loki is a white cisgender dude, and this is from a critical point of view. Disney never worked with the possibility of him being genderfluid, and a fucking 1-inch note on the side of the screen during the credits doesn't change the way Tom Hiddleston has portrayed the character as a cisgender man. And don't get me started on how problematic the whole Sylvie Female Loki is okay- Do you wanna see a true genderfluid Loki? Go watch the Netflix "Ragnarok" Show. That said, I obv pretend Disney never wrote shit and Loki has always been explicitly genderfluid, and try to write him like that as well.
Anyway, I really liked the finale, especially if you compare the overall quality of this season with the first one; The show got better. Really better. it's way funnier, the rhythm is finer, and the dynamics between the characters work well. Even the photography is prettier. Of course, nothing is perfect. They got rid of the self-incest part (thank god) but somehow brought misogyny back on. Where did Sylvie's development go? Renslayer's? B-15's? Every female character is either evil or unimportant. Sylvie was literally the main in the first season but we barely got to see her now, only for her to be left with no ending. And the fact that even Kang's new variant got more screen time than Renslayer is a crime. At least we got a lot of Mobius, he's such a sweetheart.
But yes, I do like Loki. I didn't adore the finale, but I liked it a lot. Excluding the issues I mentioned before, Loki finally got his well-deserved development and GLORIOUS PURPOSE. I was so happy I got the reference and then I got so sad. He's alone, that poor soul. And I was left speechless, for a good moment I literally had to pause the show, when we got the "centuries later" logo. His willpower and determination to do the right thing after so long? Amazing. Two words to show the most unique and incredible growth a character ever had in the MCU before. Loki really became the master of time to save his friends, only in the end for his purpose to be alone without them. I AM NOT OKAY
btw, I would love to know what you guys thought about the ending, the whole god of stories being a thing now; did you guys like the show, I think it had one of the best endings for Marvel, just behind Wandavision (both shared the same problems, open holes in the narrative for future projects probably).
Good news for anyone who actually read to the end, this means I finally get to write my TVA!Reader x Wanda series, the most slow burn, enemies to lovers, ride-or-die couple ever wrote it; yay!
#ask box#loki spoilers#loki season 2 spoilers#i'm so sorry this is so long but i really need to talk about it#i am incapable of not being in love with well written characters that sacrifice themselves for other people#specially if they have selfish tedencies#i shall be marrying loki then#wanda you're still my wife i promise
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Petition to rename(MCU) Loki to Loki Friggabarn. Giving Loki this last name would follow the Viking naming convention of someone’s last name being their parents first name (usually) followed by either son or dottir. (This way of giving last names is actually still used in Iceland) Frigga, because she was Loki’s only true parent (let’s face it Odin was an asshole and Loki never even knew Laufey) and barn because it means child in at least 3 Nordic languages (Danish,Swedish and Norwegian) and the reason Loki doesn’t get son or dottir in their last name is because they’re genderfluid/non-binary. So all in all Loki Friggabarn.
Edit: apparently there’s a gender neutral “child of” suffix in icelandic, it’s -bur, so Loki’s name could also be Loki Friggabur.
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