#skeevy sheev

[meanderandwander]

AU where freshly knighted Obi Wan bugs the chancellors office because he might not be able to stop him privately meeting his young padawan but he can make sure nothing bad happens to Anakin. He waits in nearby areas with his friends (often with Quinlan) to rush in if skeevy sheev says anything even slightly dodgy. This means he can reduce the impact of palpatine manipulating Anakin and means that when he is told they need to find evidence of the chancellor being a sith lord, he conveniently already has a way to get evidence.

[thelibrarian1895]

Mandalorians hate Jedi because...

"the Jedi are child stealers" NO

And again I say NO. I saw someone claim this and it absolutely infuriated me.

First point, THE JEDI ARE NOT CHILD STEALERS. That accusation is sithspit anti jedi propaganda. If a parent or guardian told the Jedi no, they didn't want their kid to be a Jedi, the Jedi respected that. They would, however, remove children from danger. But would you call a social worker who took children from environments where they were being molested, starved, beaten, or worse, a child stealer? No? Then don't call the Jedi child stealers for the same actions.

Second point, the average Mandalorian didn't really know or care too much about Jedi. In all honestly, most Mandalorians, like the rest of the galaxy, had no real idea about the difference between Jedi or other force sects like the nightsisters or general darksiders or even the sith except perhaps the color of their lightsabers. Some Mandalorians, like our beloved Din Djarin, knew nothing at all about Jedi and only cared when in became relevant and then did as much research as possible regarding the Jedi. Others, like Jango Fett, had very personal interactions with Jedi and formed their opinions of the Jedi as a whole based on those interactions with no further reason or desire to look further into the Jedi.

Third point, for Mandalorians who studied history or listened to old stories, they knew why the Mandalorians disliked the Jedi and it was for a very simple reason that they liked to avoid actively admitting. That reason? The Jedi kicked the shebs of the Mandalorian armies.

Twice.

Quite possibly there was another point when the Jedi suppressed the Mandalorian empire but there were two times for certain. Granted, the republic played a large part and the Jedi definitely didn't all interfere in one of those two conflicts, and actually actively avoided one of those two conflicts except in a few cases, and there were definitely some terrible things done, but the fact remains that when the Mandalorian empire attempted to expand and basically take over the galaxy, the Jedi were key to stopping this. And no, the Mandalorian empire was not a good thing. But more importantly, if you thought your ancestors or your cultures' armies were in the right and they were beaten, would you like the descendants of those who beat your side?

Fourth point, would you like the side that beat your side if they refused to give you a proper rematch? The Mandalorians who know anything about Jedi know that Jedi have access to all this power, plus generally have a super cool plasma sword, but the Jedi won't fight or they'll de-escalate or generally indulge in pacifistic behavior and we all know how Mandalorians feel about presumed pacifists, right? A Mandalorian denied a fight is often a frustrated Mandalorian. A Mandalorian who sees someone who has all this strength and power often doesn't understand why that person doesn't use that power, doesn't take revenge or slaughter their enemies or a million other things that they would do with such power. So those that don't understand choose to dislike. Why won't the Jedi fight them?! (please imagine the sentence immediately previous spoken in an extremely whiney tone of voice)

Fifth point, the Mandalorians frequently throughout history worked with the Sith or were on the Sith side of conflicts because of a lack of knowledge about force sects meant the Mandalorians didn't generally realize how absolutely stupid it is to side with the Sith but beyond that the Mandalorians often learned about the Jedi from the Sith. So the Mandalorians got stories from the Sith about the Jedi being weak and cold and blah, blah, blah stupid sith propaganda that I don't want to perpetuate. And those Mandalorians would then think themselves Jedi experts, because hadn't they learned about the Jedi from another Jedi? Granted, a dark Jedi but still a Jedi, right? So they'd tell other Mandalorians the propaganda and so the Mandalorians had that Sith skewed idea of the Jedi perpetuated throughout their history.

So the Mandalorians have their own reasons for not like the Jedi, which have NOTHING to do with child stealing, just as the Jedi have plenty of reasons to want to avoid the Mandalorians. Personally though I'm going to blame a lot of those reasons on both sides on the Sith and be grumpy about the Sith and the effectiveness of their propaganda.

And finally, I'm pretty sure at least a tiny bit of the animosity between Mandalorians and Jedi arose from the Mandalorians being jealous that the Jedi had lightsabers and they didn't. To be fair, I'm a little jealous too. Lightsabers are cool.

[lfrom-thestars]

skeevy Sheev at his finest

I'm currently reading the novelisation of ROTS and the funniest thing for me is Palatine trying to kill Obi Wan in the beginning.

Like even after Dooku fails, he tries several times to convince Anakin to leave Obi Wan for dead. The first time is in the Captain's quarters (aka Throne room 2.0) and Anakin is just so offended that Sheev doesn't understand the concept of no brother left behind.

The second time is just before they enter the elevator shaft and Palpatine is just like: "Oh Anakin, just leave him with me for a bit so you can scout ahead. Nothing bad will happen I promise."

Finally he asks Anakin to give him his hand, which would mean that Anakin would drop Obi Wa.

And it's all so wonderfully cartoonish, I just can't 🥰🥰🥰

[moreespressoformydepresso]

Palpatine in the prequels: Menacing, manipulative, powerful, insanely smart, patient as all hell, manipulation master, beat multiple councillors in one go, max efficiency groomer, manipulation for days, long game is best games, master schemer, did I mention manipulative yet?

Palpatine in the original trilogy: “HAHAHAAAAA TASTE MY LIGHTNING SON OF MY ATTACK DOG WHOSE WHOLE MOTIVATION FOR JOINING ME WAS TO SAVE HIS FAMILY, THERE’S NO WAY THIS COULD EVER END BADLY FOR ME!!” Fucking dies

[the-far-bright-center]

To me there is no mystery here, it's clearly the latter. Because only Anakin ever had the power to truly defeat Sidious. However powerful Mace might have been, he wasn't the Chosen One and thus was never going to actually be able to kill him in the duel. It was just a clever trap by Sidious for Anakin. Sidious always feared Anakin, and his years-long plan to turn Anakin to the Dark Side was, imo, primarily motivated by self-preservation. Yeah, he wanted Anakin as a tool he could wield, and as a trophy of his revenge against the Jedi, but ultimately he wanted make sure that in a moment where Anakin had the opportunity to kill him...he wouldn't. And that's exactly what happened.

...at least, until Luke came along. :')

Mysteries from the Prequel Trilogy

Did Mace Windu defeat Darth Sidious, or did Darth Sidious let himself be defeated?

[everyr0sehas1tsth0rns]

Spotted in Indiana

[meanderandwander]

Palpatine makes them go to Christophsis so many times because he wants to get 100% on the level

[phoenixyfriend]

Hi I have another stupid insane plot idea

OKAY SO. Inspiring facts of canon:

We all remember that Dooku is like 20yrs older than Palpatine, yes? (I have been informed that is is not actually common knowledge as I thought. Dooku's born 102bby and Palps is 84bby. Please do not comment only to express shock at the ages.)

We also all know that Dooku is one of the most prolific masters (not counting Yoda) in terms of Number Of Apprentices Taught, which means that he really enjoys teaching/guiding younger people into becoming the best version of themselves (even if that's sometimes the best Sith possible, like Ventress), despite some Notable failures.

Situation: Dooku time-travels to his own twenties or thirties. Could be physical (Knight Dooku meets The Count) or mental (Dooku wakes up with sixty years of memories), but he's There.

Important Factor: Palpatine is YOUNG. Like, a teenager at MOST.

Plot Shape: Dooku has a New Project. He is going to harass this very young politician/actual child into not being a shitheel, and drag his current apprentice (probably Rael) into helping.

If Palps is sixteen or something, he's already in politics, because Naboo. If Palps is like... four, then Dooku might just Pick Him Up as a new Initiate for the Temple.

Bonus points: Skeevy Sheev is also a time-traveler, specifically of the mental variety, and loathes that Dooku is exerting his age like this. It's Undignified! The man is trying to mentor him! SIDIOUS IS MEANT TO BE THE MASTER, NOT THIS JEDI REJECT.

I just need Dooku's "I can fix him" mentoring energy to smack into teenybopper Sheev at full force.

[the-far-bright-center]

Yes, Yoda is saying that he thought he could train Luke to confront Vader before Luke ever found out the truth. Basically, his plans to have Luke fight and defeat Vader were messed up by Vader telling Luke ‘I am your father’. Imo, Yoda’s reaction to this is similar to Palpatine’s incredulous response to Vader in RotJ, when Vader says he has sensed Luke’s presence while Palpatine has not. Both the Jedi and the Sith can’t understand the deep bond and personal attachment between Luke and his father. They think Anakin failed as the Chosen One and that Luke is the only hope (or threat, from Palpy’s perspective). They never realised that the Chosen One prophecy always had to be fulfilled by an act of sacrifice motivated by love. Luke’s own willingness to lay down his life rather than fight his father inspires Anakin to lay down his life in his son’s stead, which fulfills the prophecy. Because only love can ignite the heart of the long-dead star. Only love can save the galaxy.

Hi! I was rewatching RotJ and I'm a bit confused as to what Yoda meant when he said "unexpected, this is" when Luke said that Vader told him he was his father. Did Yoda mean that it was unexpected that Vader realized Luke was his son or unexpected as in he didn't think Vader would even care? What's your take on it? (Luke and Vader's dynamic throughout the three movies is so fascinating, their scenes are my favourite in the trilogy)

It was unexpected that he would be called out on his lies omission. It was unexpected that Luke would have found out the truth. It was unexpected that Luke would care about his father. It was unexpected that Luke would be an independent actor capable of making his own moral decisions instead of just swallowing whatever bullshit Yoda and Obi-Wan spewed. 

[thelibrarian1895]

Padme

Moving to a Star Wars kick for a bit, may jump to another interest at some point but for now...

It's probably been mentioned by someone else and in a much more eloquent fashion but Sheev Palpatine aka Super Skeevy Sheevy aka the person you should NOT listen to about basically anything was around Padme Naberrie Amidala for a very large portion of her life. After she managed to divert Skeevy Sheevy's original plan thanks to her willingness to ask for help from the Gungans and treat them as equal people, I wonder if perhaps Skeevy Sheevy started to invite her to outings in a similar fashion to how he invited Anakin. He had already established himself as her political mentor so he would have had a much easier time of this, especially as he was chancellor and someone would have to be senator and Padme, no matter what her people said, couldn't be queen forever. I wonder if perhaps during those meetings that may have happened, there was perhaps some additional...force in his conversations with her.

I say this because when Padme was senator, she made some extremely stupid choices, choices that aren't really in line with her professed ideals and past actions as Queen Amidala. And I wonder if perhaps Skeevy Sheevy managed to whisper enough poison into her ear that it ate away at her sense of duty and her general intelligence for her to make those choices.

Or maybe it was the trauma of the whole Naboo invasion thing and she really should have gone to regular therapy sessions but for some reason decided against that course of action.

Or maybe both.

In either case, Queen Amidala, glorious, true icon, Senator Amidala however? Would not get my vote for chancellor, honestly would not really trust her as my senator. She talks a good talk but sometimes trips when she tries to walk the walk. If she did manage all she achieved while having to deal with Sith mind manipulation though, makes her that much more admirable even if, again, some of her decisions weren't really the wisest.

[tattycoram]

A Star Wars au where everything is the same but Commander Fox’s face reveal reveals that he is in fact Fox Mulder

Also Skeevy Sheev is dead

😂😂

[vodika-vibes]

Rynn, just thinking about is just ASKING for something bad to happen to you

Rynn is like, "I don't believe in things like bad luck or superstition." Meanwhile her boys are like, "We absolutely do believe in bad luck and jinxes because we've seen it happen, please don't think anything that might jinx us."

@moonwrecked

"This is where Palpatine lived?" Scorch asks as he looks around at the massive mansion, "Like. Alone?" "Yes," The young woman replies, "Sheev Palpatine was a Widow and his child died at the same time as his wife. It was a very tragic event." "How'd they die?" Rynn asks, as she eyes the building placidly. "No one knows, we believe that there was an illness." "Hm. Thank you." "You're very welcome. Would you like a tour?" "That won' t be necessary. Is it alright if Scorch and I just wander around?" Rynn asks. "Oh, yes. Absolutely." The young woman returned to the speeder, and Scorch turns to lead their to the door. "So. Bets on old Skeevy Sheevy killing his wife and kid?" Scorch asks as he pushes the door open. "No bets. Dooku had to kill Master Sifo Dyas for his sith initiation, my bet is that Palpatine had to kill his wife and kid for his initiation." Rynn replies, her nose scrunches up as she steps into the building, "Ugh. I think he killed them here." "Of course he did." Scorch looks around, "Come on, pretty girl. Let's do out investigation and get out of here." "Right behind you."

[the-far-bright-center]

Wait a minute. So Jedi Order apologists will say that the Order itself is a victim of Palpatine, but somehow Anakin is not? Even though Anakin is, you know, a part of the Jedi Order? What kind of logic is this?

While it’s true that pretty much everyone in the story is a victim of Palpatine in some way, that doesn't mean the Jedi Order bears no responsibility for the children and young adults under their protection. The thing about grooming is that the groomer will usually try to groom and manipulate the adults first in order to gain easier access to their intended target. The Jedi Order was unable to adequately protect Anakin from Palpatine at least in part because they themselves were already being primed to do the Chancellor's bidding in the name of 'serving the Republic'.

So, not only is Anakin singled out and groomed individually by Palpatine, he's ALSO simultaneously being groomed to 'follow orders' as PART of the Jedi Order, because that's what THEY do. That's what they are constantly telling him to do. Obey authority. Follow orders without question (the RotS lines, 'I will do what I must' and 'Do what must be done' are two sides of the same coin). The whole tragedy of Anakin's story is that he was ostensibly 'freed' from slavery but was never truly free (until his final, dying breaths), because he became part of an order of warrior monks who were themselves essentially slaves of the Republic. Anakin's re-enslavement by Sidious in RotS is the culmination of all of that.

Pro Jedi people go on about how you are victim blaming if you are critical of the Jedi Order, but the way some of them talk about how Anakin should have known that Palpatine was evil all along and if he was just a better person he wouldn’t have been manipulated by Palpatine is the textbook definition of victim blaming.

[engagemythrusters]

tag game by @star-burned mwuah mwuah thank u

1. ride or die ship (your otp):

kanera. nobody dids it like they dids.

2. most annoying ship:

reylo for sure. i still swear they should be cousins. its weird bc of that. also bc its just. soooo made for cishets.

3. second favourite ship:

cal/merrin, at this moment!

4. favourite platonic relationship:

theres a lot tbh there's so many good ones! for the sake of picking one i think i'lll say the seelos gang <3 love those old geezers <3

5. underrated ship:

tech/phee. autistic boy has swag. and she's hot <3

6. overrated ship:

******* im going to get killed saying it aloud.

7. one thing i would change in canon:

racism and ableism and sexism that is so downright disgustingly intrinsic to star wars. god. its so fucked up.

8. something canon did right:

Gunsaber.

9. a thing I'm proud of creating for the fandom PLEASE BRAG ABOUT YOURSELF I WANT TO SEE/READ YOUR ART:

not proud of any of them. Thing I dislike the least tho ig is Togs the Zabrak.

10. a character who is perfect to me (wouldn't change a thing):

star-burned said atin. i agree. mwuah mwuah mwuah i love you my autistic-loves-his-kits boy <3

11. the character I relate to the most and why:

Umm hm. I think Echo, bc of the more-than-likely chronic pain. And also bc boy does that guy have echolalia sdlkfj

12. character(-s) I hate the most and why:

skeevy sheev.

13. something i've learned from the fandom:

block button is a wonderful wonderful tool. and that so many fans are just bigots.

14. three tags i seek out on ao3:

chronic pain (just a usual one for me, i like to read those stories when i feel bad), boba fett (always looking for good boba fics i love him sm), annnnndd original clone troopers (i like clones <3)

15. a song i strongly associate with my otp/ favourite character:

said it a billion times will say it a billion more Dead of Night is a kanera song.

i uuuuh have nobody to tag unless tobytost or darlin-djarin or kyberjelly wants to do it but im too scraed to tag them xoxo SO anyone can do it and pretend i tagged them

[sri-fanfic]

126. Something went horribly wrong in Sheev's skeevy plan, and the Jedi and their temple ended up on the separatists side of the war and he lost his attempt at turning Count Dooku to the Darkside. The clones still fight for the Republic but they're really confused having been told they'd be an army for the Jedi only to find the Jedi aren't fighting for the Republic side of things.