#situational discourse

[kyofsonder]

Literally why are yall wishing deayh upon tumblrs ceo over this huge load of nothing? that person was always posting nudes like... yall are embarrassingly yallselves FR.

I don't know what the person who was banned posted prior to the ban. I actually don't follow her and didn't prior to this situation. I do know that what she posted that got her banned was (as far as I'm aware) not a violation of Tumblr TOS and definitley not a nude photo. I do know that this is far from the first time Tumblr's staff and CEO have struck out at harmless posts and hidden behind "Well, there were OTHER things this person posted BEFORE that we didn't like either" and that they almost exclusively target trans women and nonbinary people -- especially transfeminine people -- when they do this song and dance. I do know that this is far from the first time they've ignored the ACTUAL spam bot issues of tag spamming and literal porn posting in favor of targeting real human users for things like generic selfies (which is what got this particular user banned this time) and slightly over-the-top joke posts. I do know that Tumblr as a culture has issues with suspecting trans women of wrongdoing for flimsy reasons, which has been emboldened by staff in the past.

Is joking about wanting the CEO to die an over-the-top reaction, when what we really want is justice and an overall shift in the culture that normalizes transphobia and misogyny and transmisogyny on a systemic level? Are the people who mean it more sincerely than I do and truly want him dead being unfair because they're devaluing a human life in a fit of anger?

Probably. Yeah. I always keep the post that says "deserving is fake and death is bad" in my mind in times like this, and you're right that death isn't a fair thing to wish on even a transphobe. We should definitley all be internalizing "deserving is fake and death is bad" and working on our emotional processing so that isn't where we immediately go when we think of justice and retribution for the injustice we and members of our community/communities have faced. Break the cycle of violence and all that.

But at the same time, not only is that intensive work to be done on an individual-by-individual basis, this is communal catharsis. This is grasping at harsh words and extreme fantasies because we have seen so little real, material justice when one of our own is cast out from a communal space or otherwise denied community or support. When systemic injustic like trans women being targeted -- whether they've done anything wrong in the past or not -- for perfectly innocent posts and being barred from a community where they're meant to be safe happens, there's a very real historic rage in us that needs somewhere to go. In some it's quiet, in some it's less directly connected from the history it comes from, but we're all members and allies of the trans community and we all feel the need for that catharsis.

When a CEO who owns a whole company uses his power like a hammer and slams that down on any individual he wants, like playing Whack-a-Mole at the whim of his investors and algorithms and what little he may know of the demographics his investors favor, it's an understandable knee-jerk reaction that we would wish we also had hammers to return equalizing force on him. It's understandable that we would want the whole system changed and, exhausted by how little we've succeeded to do that on most scales as a community over the years, we wish for a whole restart and the death of the one who's perpetuating the harm.

It's an overreaction. Deserving is fake and death is bad. But it's rooted in things too deep and too messy to untangle, and it clumsily communicates what we're really trying to say: fix things. Make it better. Death to injustice, in so far as we can kill injustice as a thing. Death to harm, in so far as we can kill harm as an act. Death not so much to one CEO or to the staff or to Tumblr as a site, but to the culture of suspicion and malice that continues to target and pick apart trans people.

We just want people to be able to live their lives and run their blogs and not get harassed over it, and if we're overreacting when one of our own is barred from doing that and it's the billionth one of our own in our communal history that's been banned from a communal space... I think, at least for a moment, until we collect ourselves and figure out the appropriate material response (like that harassment report I just reblogged, maybe), we probably deserve to use imprecise words and have over-the-top fantasies.

[noxious-fennec]

I love how being obsessed with livestreamed Minecraft role play for a period of my life has granted me access to seemingly endless interpersonal dramas I can tap into at 7 in the morning. Ex-girlfriend at the function pov

[mikaikaika]

[bugflies00]

things just Keep Happening

[quacksunny]

Tubbo has been one of the few people to show Dream any grace in this situation, so for Dream to continuously prove that he only sees Tubbo as an extension of Tommy is actually insane. Tubbo should be allowed to cuss him out.

[ilexdiapason]

molly on the subject of dream removing whore and r***** from his vocabulary

[metamodernisms]

genuinely so poetic how most ex dsmp fans have moved on to different fandoms and people and content creators and yet we all still come together to gather like its the last supper whenever dream does some stupid shit. communal white man shaming unites the world like no other

[itsmendak]

dream claiming that tommy had a literal editor sweatshop making less than minimum wage tommy’s editors in question coming to his defence, sharing the unedited messages dream altered in the video and providing evidence tommy cares about paying editors well:

(please reblog with tags, thanks!)

[a-moth-called-mof]

[deepcoraldragon]

List of ccs publicly supporting Tommy & Tubbo

(or who just spoke out against Dream in general. or both.) as of jan 13

I haven’t seen a list on here yet so here goes (I def forgot some people, and I’m missing a few screenshots but this took foreverrr)

Content creators explicitly siding with clingyduo

Jack

AverageHarry

Ranboo

Phil

Sneegsnag

MaxGGs (could not pick a favorite tweet)

Aimsey

Kwite

SophieTexas

ConnorEatsPants

Krinios

a6d

Bitzel (not that we’re surprised)

Ludwig apparently

RosannaPansino

KyleEff

Dean Withers, coming out of left field

Molly (melinks)

Its_blarg

Mysticat

ItsZoil I think

Michael McChill

Content creators who didn’t say anything explicitly but we can read between the lines

HannahRose

Quackity (idgaf undefeated champion)

Shelby Shubble (see Phil)

Vikkstar

People who aren’t ccs but still get an honorable mention

Sarah Simons (Tommy’s mom)

Rue (Tommy’s old roommate)

Ady Manifold

Andi (Punz's ex) (I had to cut the post, sorry)

And that's everyone I can think of rn! Please add on if I forgot someone, if new people speak out, or if you have more screenshots to share!

Edit: here's the updated version from jan 20th, and the summary list

[torglives]

to say my piece: firstly, fuck iskall.

secondly, its very easy to tell by the outpouring of hate comments on many of the hermits' recent videos (after his response) that he reached a target of young, impressionable fans. not only that, but also a darker side of the hermitcraft fandom that i like to ignore.

as much as i love hermitcraft, its "golden" status that its gotten from remaining "unpolitical" and "drama-free" has perpetuated a very ugly-hearted group of fans who cant find solace in the more openly left-wing smp communities. so they turn to hermitcraft, where they can hide a little more easily. and this has been a group of people slowly cultivating numbers for years now, and there's enough of them that docm77's gay beacon, or the number of pride mcc participants (and queer hermits) can't ward off.

these people have always been the ones brushing concerns in the community under the rug, the "this isn't the place for politics," and "i watch hermitcraft to get AWAY from that stuff." types. they are never going to believe the women that were harassed over the male creator they've latched onto as someone who's "for them" and "un-cancelable." these people have been waiting for this opportunity. and you'll see them say "hermitcraft is over," and "they can't come back from this," but none of that is true. they're the only ones who believe that.

and as awful as all of this is, the hate and the VERY thinly veiled misogyny-- there is a bright-side in weeding those people out. "i don't think i'll be able to watch hermitcraft after this" good fucking riddance.

iskall knew what he was doing by bringing his shit response video to his youtube audience. instead of the reddit, instead of twitter, but to a space that HE moderates. the space with the highest concentration of people who he know will defend him.

my only hope is that the hermits double down on this, and that they have the backbone to make it clear that these people are not welcome in the community. and neither is iskall. and that the larger chunk of us continue to support the victims, and uplift what they have to say. i can't imagine how this must feel for them.

[vulto-cor-de-rosa]

Tubbo's reaction to Dream saying people hate him because he used to play the villain on the DSMP is so real like you can see his soul leaving his body

[minecraft-sex-mod]

dear god please take all the pain from every female member of the dsmp, double it, and give it to dream was taken. amen & godbless

[mikaikaika]

......

[bugflies00]

“you made me feel small” dreamwastaken your days are numbered. the fact that tommy who was such a passionate creator who was so young and who has expressed so many times that he looked up so deeply to his ‘mentor’ figures and who cared so much about the cool stuff he was making was treated like this is just so fucking sad.

i don’t think it’s even the inniter saying this like this objectively sucks. dream was horrible, mean and manipulative to a kid who looked up to him and who just CARED SO MUCH.

every single dms that has been leaked of tommy’s (logan paul, dream, etc) has just demonstrated how eager he was to get these grown adults’ opinion and approval. and in response they gave him a dogshit example. and he still turned out better than them.

and that is precisely why, even though tommy is far from perfect and has fucked up and we don’t truly know any of these creators behind the scenes, i will always be a shooter for him because he’s demonstrated sincerity which is more than i can say for so many of these people.

he deserved to be treated so much better than to receive guilt tripping mile long messages from a grown man who knows he looks up to him.