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Young Justice: Sins of the Youth #2
Peter David; Todd Nauck:Lary Stucker:Jason Wright and Ken Lopez
DC
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One thing I really do love the Sins of Youth storyline in YJ98 is that really does show how good at Young Justice are at being superheroes.
Because all the adults get de-aged and it’s absolute chaos and they can barely keep their shit together and Young Justice wonders if they’re that bad and the answer is “actually no you’re not, you’re actually doing pretty solid for your age in experience and you’re being held up to an unfair standard that invites more criticism to your actions”
It’s also a fascinating exploration of how adult anxieties are unfairly projected on to teenagers and while they of course still have room to grow and change and mature, the kids are, in fact, alright and actually capable individuals who do need support and guidance but aren’t helpless idiots by any means
#I just really love ‘98 young justice and how it explores the complexity of being a teen superhero#and while there are some parts of the sins of youth storyline I don’t love#I think it’s a very important message to strengthen young justice’s confidence within themselves because it does actually show#how hard it is to be a teen hero and how objectively they are doing a pretty good job of being teen heroes#young just us#young justice#young justice 1998#yj#yj98#tim drake#dc robin#bart allen#dc impulse#kon el#conner kent#superboy#cassandra sandsmark#cassie sandsmark#wonder girl#greta hayes#dc secret#cissie king jones#arrowette#dc comics#dc
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How many death threats do you think I'd get if I wrote a queer book where the Devil falls in love with Adam from the Garden of Eden when something causes him to Fall from Heaven? And they both have to unlearn their religious trauma? And I retcon the existence of god because I think that's a more interesting take on the concepts of heaven and hell?
#from the desk of anachron#like adam resents him for the garden and lucifer did do that intentionally but regrets the consequences of acting in anger that way#but he also hates that Adam looks down on him for being the Devil#he knows he was prideful in his youth and he knows he didn't really get it#but eons of interaction with human souls will do wonders to make you realize some stuff about yourself#anyway fixing millenia of religious trauma by enjoying sin in moderation to prove good and evil don't actually exist#except as moral judgements we place on ourselves and others
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“not remotely”
Todd Nauck - Larry Strucker
#Sins of Youth#JSA#JLA#Young Justice#Superboy#Robin#Wonder Girl#Secret#Superman#Black Canary#Jay Garrick#Aquaman#Lagoon Boy#Batman#Deadman#Kyle Rayner#Steel#Wonder Woman#Red Tornado#Stargirl#Wildcat#Todd Nauck#Larry Strucker#Alan Scott#Hourman#Doctor Fate#Hawkgirl#Doctor Mid Nite#Martian Manhunter#Atom
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no amount of explaining and or frantic gesturing can express how they make me feel
sb94 issue #92
#they don’t even know about their brotherfathersoncousinisms#when you find out let me know… they want me dead#so many people claim to have emotions about clark and kon but they don’t even know about this issue. or sins of youth. or or or#cannot for the life of me think of the issue but his talk with lois#whatever! idc#what’s bro yappin about#sb94 tag
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In Young Justice 98 comics Match replaced Kon for like three whole issues and no one noticed.
From Young Justice #17 when Cissie packs all her stuff from the cave,
Till Young Justice #19
And carried over untill this moment in Young Justice Sins Of Youth #1
The person everyone thinks is Kon is actually Match.
And this isn't a one off thing Match did, it happened again in Young Justice #38 when Bart and Tim left the team but this time he was jokerized for some reason but the girls still think it's Kon trying to cheer them up (cus they were in a war the last issues)
Superboy comes back all confused because he was having a Heart to Heart with Supergirl on top the statue of liberty
Match does this twice in YJ alone. I can only assume he's done it in other comics too. It's kinda funny but sad like no one notices?
#comics#dc comics#robin#tim drake#cissie king jones#arrowette#cassie sandsmark#wonder girl#kon el kent#kon el#conner kent#superboy#match#young justice 98#young justice#young just us#batcavescolony reads comics#bart allen#impulse#sins of youth#supergirl#i think thats her? she white tshirt and the 90s-00s Supergirl. corect me if im wrong.#linda right? matrix or linda or merged matrix linda? idk Supergirls are confusing#kon and match
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he performed his function of being the most annoying little bitchboy on earth during this run, but damn, if i wasn’t weeping with him when greta had that cat on death row 😭
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guys wait I need someone to hear this because I am genuinely SO proud of my spiritual improvement. So this boy and I that I would say I like have been texting back and fourth after this DnD meet, right? He asked if I was single last night (But I was already asleep), to which I awoke this morning and said “YeahI am lol, why?” So I texted my friends about this and I was like “I genuinely don’t know what to say, because I like him, but Mormons aren’t supposed to date till 16” (I’m 14) and so I have decided once he texts me back IF he even does, that I am going to say no. Specifically so I can focus more on God, as I also want to date someone who is Mormon preferably (But if they’re not, and I’m of age, and they’re respectful of the church and beliefs don’t counter it completely then I’ll pray abt that when I get to that). But I am genuinely so proud of my spiritual improvement because a year ago (When I was like atheist all the way) I would of just said yes, and I did to this one boy, long story short it did not work out. So anyway just wanted to share because low key I am actually so proud right now.
#Queerstake#lds#lds church#mormom#tumblrstake#lds youth#ldslife#mormon#mormonism#book of mormon#dating#proud of myself#proud#help pride IS a sin what#ALSO OMG I HAD SUCH A SPIRITUAL DREAM ABOUT QUEERNESS AND RELIGION YESTERDAY.#beau babbles
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✨ Various Tropes: Neck Touch (3/?) ✨
TITLES IN ORDER: 1. The Tasty Florida (2021) 2: About Youth (2022) 3: Original Sin (2022) 4: Summerdaze: Christmas Together (2022) 5: Cherry Blossoms After Winter (2022) 6: Ghost Host Ghost House (2022) 7: Blueming (2022) 8: Unintentional Love Story (2023) 9&10: Our Skyy x The Eclipse (2023) 11: The Eighth Sense (2023) 12: Time The Series (2024)
#the tasty florida#about youth#original sin 2022#summerdaze: christmas together#Cherry Blossoms After Winter#Ghost Host Ghost House#blueming#unintentional love story#our skyy 2 x the eclipse#the eighth sense#various tropes#neck touch#part three#blmpff
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Reading sins of youth and I have to document my favorite running gags
Bruce telling the team to not call him “bats”
Kyle changing his outfit in every new frame
#its so unhinged I love it#like it’s so silly#bruce wayne#clark kent#Kyle Rayner#kon el#conner kent#john henry irons#wally west#diana prince#sins of youth#definitely missing tags but I’m lazy sooooooo#justice league#B reads comics
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You Don't Like It?
#batfam#bat family#tim drake#bruce wayne#robin#batman#dynamic duo#sins of youth#dc comics#dcu#dc robin
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#cassie sandsmark#wonder girl#daily cassie sandsmark#brian k. vaughan#scott kolins#chris ivy#rick taylor#sins of youth: wonder girls
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Hi! Big fan of your work and writing blog :) I have a question re: fanfic reception. I like writing fanfics about villains on the receiving end of noncon, and I sometimes get feedback that makes me feel weird and I dunno how to respond to it? It’s along the lines of "thanks for giving [character] the pain they deserve" "it’s good that you aren’t nice to [character] like those other fanfic writers". (Part 1…)
(Part 2…)I kind of feel like they’re complimenting my morals instead of my writing, but I also could be overreacting, because I mean it’s fine to seek out fics where a character you hate gets tortured? No hurry answering this, and thanks in advance if you do. I hope you’re doing alright on your break from UtB. I am using the time to reread and am loving it!
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Hi anon!
Oh this is an interesting quandary to be in, because I'm certain at least some of those people are very much being moralistic about it.
Tbh when it's 'thanks for giving (character) the pain they deserve' you can probably ignore that if you want, because yeah, they might have revenge fantasies and find that very satisfying.
But when you get people going 'thanks for being mean / not nice to this character like other writers' - if you're the kind of person who responds to comments and feels uncomfortable when someone is using your space to shame other authors (because that's exactly what's happening) you can choose - if you want - to take the time to say 'I have no problems when people enjoy this character being hurt, however, I do not tolerate when folks shame other authors and readers for what they enjoy in fiction. Please don't compliment my fic by putting down other people, that's not what a compliment is' or something similar.
As soon as a reader brings in other people and shames them, that's absolutely when you can take a stand and see a clear issue.
I see this a lot for two different things:
Writing realistic kink, and so many readers being like 'omg thanks for writing realistic kink there's so much unrealistic trash on here' and these days I always make a point of saying 'oh thanks! but I write and love unrealistic trash too. This is a fictional site and no one should be expected to write realistic kink here!' It shuts people down amazingly fast. But also makes them realise that perhaps they just shouldn't be throwing stones when we're all in a very glass castle on AO3 lmao
Writing realistic trauma recovery, so like 'thanks for showing how awful and evil rape can be unlike those people who write it for fun' - now how I end up with these readers with my actual writing history, I don't know, but I take the same approach of like 'thanks BUT I LOVE writing rape as titillation! I enjoy both!'
You don't have to be as blunt as me, and you don't have to address it at all, but any reader who shames other authors or readers in your comment section can be addressed directly because it's just a shitty thing to do. And people don't say shit like that in public if they don't secretly hope that one of those people will see the comment and feel bad about what they like.
So yeah, with your first example, they could be feeling moralistic, or they could just want a revenge fantasy and really enjoy noncon! The second example is a clear cut example of shaming, or stepping on other people to pass you a compliment, and you're never ever over-reacting when that makes you feel uncomfortable, or makes you feel like it's not really a compliment. Because all it really is, is a version of: 'you passed my moral standards, thanks' and that's not actually a compliment at all. (Or like you say, it's complimenting your morals, it's like having a weird fandom policeman come by and glare at you and be like '....okay you're committing no crimes, as you were' and moving on. It's just weird).
Anyway *shakes hands for weird comments that shame other readers/authors in the form of a compliment* - I do think you're right to feel uncomfortable at least sometimes when this happens. It's up to you how you choose to address or not address it, but I will say personally that if you aren't going to address it in comments, maaaaybe consider deleting the ones that shame other readers/authors, so that when those people read your fics they don't feel alienated. It's obviously your choice! But just something to consider if you want to be curating your space. And best of luck writing all the noncon-villain fics! They can be a lot of fun :D
#asks and answers#on fandom#on fanfiction#these kinds of comments are also becoming more common#now that we judge fics badly based purely on morals#complimenting a fic on its moral standing is considered a very good compliment#but it's not really#it feels very Christian Evangelist youth camp where it's like#'wow jessica you're so good at following the lord!'#'thanks Angie I never sin!'#'wow me either!'#like get me out of the cult and can we just go back to complimenting each toher on the filth of the noncon#and how good you make a character suffer sadlfkjas
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Sins of Youth (1958)
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not another one of those bat-contingency plan posts going around again forgetting that tim explicitly disagreed with bruce on this subject and it was a major point of conflict for multiple arcs
and this is despite the fact this group has had multiple evil clone fakeouts, which is addressed a page before. this isn’t a “oh EVERYTHINGS canon at some point there’s 80 years of comics 🙃” this is specifically an aspect of tim’s character in the comics that people keep ignoring bc it doesn’t fit the archetype
the point of this kind of storyline is that everyone has different opinions about whether you’re crossing a boundary or taking a necessary caution or whatever, the point is to explore them. pretending every single bat agrees is unbelievably boring and treats the most nuanced collection of perspectives on crime fighting and do-gooding all crammed into one city in as a monolith
#this is from YJ1998 issue 35 but it comes up again later!!!! this affects his role in the team for the entire rest of the series!!!!! it’s#whole THING in sins of youth!!!! AUGH. STORIES HAVE CONTEXT#text✨#capes cowls and crimefighting#dc comics#tim drake#i’m petty enough to actually tag this one
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So, Dick was exposed to anti-ageing serum towards the end of his Robin era.
– Sins of Youth: Secret Files
“No-one suffered any side effects” is not “the serum didn’t work”. How about if Dick (along with the other Teen Titans exposed to it) hasn’t aged a day since?
(Dick insists he’d be taller than Jason if he’d ever gotten his final growth spurt.
That’s how Jason finds out.)
#batfam#sins of youth#in context it’s explaining why dick and donna and wally and garth are immune to magic affecting age#but what if it worked as intended?#tim and dick form the 'seventeen forever' club#it also explains a bit about roy’s apparent youthfulness
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