#shadowhunters discussion

[yulansstuff]

TMI: the characters are as strong as the plots

TID: the characters are stronger than the plots

TDA: the plots are stronger than the characters

TLH: the characters are stronger than the plots

Is this unpopular opinion?

[lookoverthecliff]

this is how i look trying to make deep analysis in my head on kit and johnny with only 5 scenes at disposal

[im-out-of-it]

part 6 of season 2, episode 15 continued “a problem of memory”

66. Simon ran the fuck out of there

67. I love seeing Alec in his office

68. Alec: yeah about that

Alec is stuck between being a concerned and supportive boyfriend to not wanting to push Magnus over the edge. we love a concerned Alec

69. I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FUCKING PARALLEL

70. y’all we went from “you don’t know Magnus” and “do you know Magnus well?” to “I know Magnus” and “I know something is going on” LIKE THE FUCKING GROWTH. I think out of all the episodes, this one might be best for the parallels and showing how much Magnus and Alec have grown as a couple and people

71. and I love how supportive and protective Alec is of Magnus. he knows his boyfriend is the best but if Magnus isn’t in the best headspace, Alec wishes to protect Magnus and give him the support he needs. Magnus would do anything for Alec and Alec knows this. and Alec doesn’t seem the type to push Magnus into something he knows Magnus can’t be around

72. she’s not wrong. Magnus is the best

73. Alec seems the one that would want space but I don’t think he wants to push Magnus too much. he knows Magnus has been through hell recently. it’s not like you should sit someone down and say okay now tell me about your trauma so we can get passed it. I honestly would have preferred the whole Magnus and valentine storyline to be longer. it’s so fragile of a storyline and needed to be taken care of better. you could literally make a whole spin off of Magnus. the potential is there and I wish they would have focused more on it. you know instead of clace and actually feature Maryse development more and malec development as well. look don’t get me wrong, I think show Malec is beautiful and it’s the reason I stuck around but there’s always improvement to be made

74. I just want to take a second to appreciate the Alec growth

75. I also love watching Alec and Izzy bond

76. and it could be that Magnus doesn’t want Alec to think the worst of him and maybe a part of him doesn’t like asking for help. in season three when Magnus loses his magic, he talks about how it was embarrassing for Alec and Izzy to save him. Magnus has always had the power and he’s used to everyone asking him for favors. “heal my broken heart Magnus, portal me to Paris Magnus”. I think it’s a combination of these. Magnus is not used to asking for help, worried that Alec may see the worst in him because that’s what he is used to, and in a way might not know how to ask for help. in a way, it’s similar to Alec. he asks Magnus for shadowhunter help all the time but in the beginning of season 2 when he killed Jocelyn, he didn’t ask Magnus for help and went self harming himself. I guess you could say in a way they are similar about asking for help 🥹

okay so I’m stopping at 77 for part 7 but I’ll do more tomorrow but I hope y’all are enjoying this so far. like I said before, this episode is great for malec development, Magnus and Alec development, and actually focusing more on Magnus for a change. also love Izzy bringing up the “don’t push me away” cause Alec, I know he remembers that 😌

[ghostbustermelanieking]

i broke down and started my shadowhunter chronicles reread. when clary kills the demon with the sensor that her great-great-great x7 or 8 grandfather invented... 🥺

[thomaslightwoodenthusiast]

WHY IS THE FACT THAT THOMAS IS CANONICALLY A GREAT SINGER AND WRITES HIS OWN POETRY ALWAYS FORGOTTEN. WHY DOES NOBODY TALK ABOUT IT. WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TALKING ABOUT IT.

[ladyhindsight]

I think the problem with a lot of CC's characters is that she always tries to make them too nice imo.

She had something going on with Julian but then she backtracked and fumbled it, just like with the og versions of Grace and James we saw in TMH, where Grace straight up threatened someone with a sword and announce her loyalty to her mother, and James was out there shooting people and tricking mundanes -granted we are told that is not his usually behavior but anyone acting like that under any circumstances is not doing all right in the head. Idc what he had going on, I'm sure it was more interesting than TLH James.

Everyone in TLH should have been meaner, actually. There were hints dropped about Thomas and Lucie in gotsm and CoHF iiirc that made me think they were going to be Something. Magnus's comment about how he couldn't save James or Lucie (amounted to nothing in the end btw) and Cassie's insistence of the fact that the modern day Blackthorns were not descended from Lucie made me sure that her plotline was going to be that she resurrected Jesse and they both got immediately executed for it. And there's a point in gotsm where Magnus says that Thomas could be a green eyed monster (also amounted to nothing) and I remember there was a whole theory that he got his marks stripped and that the Rosales were descended from him. The inscription on the Scholomance, the snippet of someone dying in their love's hands, the promise of the Verlacd in TLH... Literally amounted to nothing. How is TLH so half-baked and nonsensical when she had ten years to plan it?

And Tessa, in the first book there are some fascinating gender shaped holes in her narration. About how she and her aunt spent years protecting Nate from seeing the way his gambling made their lives harder and about how they shouldn't have done that, how she saw his recklessness as innocence, how she acknowledged that deep down she always knew he was up to no good... And then Mortmain shows up and she falls back on the established pattern of trying to protect her brother's "innocence" as it was expected from her. And that was good writing; that was something she had done countless times, that was her role as a woman in her society, that was what was expected of her, that was what she knew was wrong and couldn't stop doing.

Sadly, this disappears after the first book. CC probably realized she couldn't have a protagonist that was not a feminist and instead had to take all of the Gender out of Tessa's narration. Like, no, let her confront her Gender and the horror of being trapped in a patriarchal society and being trapped at the whims of those more powerful than her, let us linger on the way the patriarchy also has a hold of Sophie and Charlotte and Jessamine. Let her feel the horror that even if she does leave to live a normal life, she could never have children and thus failed at her expected role in society. Actually have Tessa react when Mortmain tells her she CAN have children and that he intends to force her to give birth to his children. Don't jusg drop that and leave, CC! Linger on the horror of it all!

Jem also annoys me because he is simply too bland, when he shouldn't be! On paper, he should be one of the most interesting characters in TID! A foreigner, addicted to a drug against his will, chronically ill, member of a family with a legendary sword, the only person trusted by the Institute's equivalent of a stray cat that hisses at you every time it sees you. (And don't get me started on Will's curse being a hoax, I hated that.) We could have seen more about his feelings for his homeland, about what he was like under the effects of the drug, his pain... But we don't get that. What we get is him being the Herondales cheerleader, even when he gets his own book (and his pov was the most boring one in it, pass it on). Something that annoyed me irrationally was that he did not raise Emma after the events of TMI, but he does take Kit in after TDA.

This very much feels like CC wanted Emma to be in Los Angeles so she could kickstart the plot. But she could have had Emma go with Jem, then hear about the murders in LA, then go and investigate, and through her hard work being considered the best of her generation as the readers can see the journey; this way having a concrete arc and also being active in her pursuit for revenge.

And having her actively chase what she wants would also make her more distinct from the other heroines. They don't usually pursue stuff, with the exception of Clary taking reckless actions that somehow work out; stuff happens to them.

Emma really does read like a female Jace but I firmly believe that if CC had bothered to develop some other aspects of her personality that were established, like her liking to wear dresses (which is the most CC can write for a female character without the need to vilify or ridicule their femininity) or by actually telling me what her hobbies are, because I cannot remember what Emma likes to do in her spare time. Maybe because I haven't read TDA in so long, most likely because CC never even tells us - I know Julian likes to paint, Dru likes horror movies, Ty likes Sherlock, and so on, but I could not tell you anything about the main character.

And having Emma and Julian separated would also be a good commentary on how the Clave would have not cared about separating the children and make Julian's fears feel more valid. Julian and her could not be parabatai in the "Jem takes Emma timeline" but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make since that plotline DRAGGED.

They could still have a whirlwind romance, that doesn't change. Currently rereading CoHF and the way these two are so obsessed about each other at 12 yo... It's giving Cathy and Heathcliff. Their relationship is going to be that one meme of:

"When their entire relationship is toxic, but they're both so fucked up that it's actually the best case scenario, because subjecting anybody else to either of them would be a human rights violation."

I firmly believe that CC tries to make her characters likeable and as such doesn't venture into making them have opinions and thoughts that could shock the reader. That's why so many of her characters fall into the same boxes. Because she doesn't dare to make them more complex.

The whole of the Shadowhunter Chronicles is just a pile of wasted opportunities, many of which you’ve included here. Character development or delving into many of the rather obvious themes and issues surrounding her characters has never been the precedence. Why focus on thematic organically surrounding Tessa when there is Will to care about? Why make Jem more fleshed out and independent as a character when there is Will to cheer on? Why even deluge yourself with the societal issues, actual taboos, norms—breaking them and forming new ones and changing the world with tough conversations and verbal battles when there is this huuuge MMC/MFC romance that hogs most of the pages and drowns everything else under it?

Clare has created a world with history and concepts and fantastic elements, and she absolutely sucks at implementing any of it into her writing. She doesn’t include tropes, she writes around them.

TLH bunch had way more to them, more contrast and flashier inter-character dynamics. Then the result was what it was because, in the end, everyone has to get along. For instance, Jace isn’t nice either, but that is the reason why the narrative has to go to such lengths for readers to sympathize with him. It actively pushes leniency and sympathy towards Jace whereas other characters are held to a tougher and, in a sense, more realistic standard as to their behavior. Clare wants Jace to be a tormented tough boy but also wants the readers pitying him. Which then molds all the characters around Jace to what Clare wants for him, not what realistic characters being treated like garbage and taken for granted would ever put up with.

Emma can only think she doesn’t really understand what Cristina, Kieran, and Mark got going on together and can only be happy for them, because Emma thinking it’s fucking weird would be too controversial and make people dislike Emma because she doesn’t like or stand polyamory. Every character from TMI gang to TID to TDA to TLH has to stand on the exact same opinion on every issue because that’s the right thing to do, not that a group that size could ever have differing opinions or, horror, dislike each other for some reason. Coming close is James and Grace, and that is mostly ignored either way.

(SIDENOTE: Apparently Clare fucked up the Lightwood family tree by having Alex continue the family line because he was born 1900 and the next known descendant Isidore that is Isabelle and Alec’s great grandfather was born 1908. I kind of hoped that the Secrets of the Blackthorn Hall would’ve sorted this mess out but clearly not. Also: “Alexander inherited the Herondale coloring from his mother of deep blue eyes and black hair. He has a burn scar across his chest from a rune given to him as a baby.” What Herondale coloring is it really when it comes from Linette Owens??)

Anyway.

Your final paragraph was spot on. I also never thought about how Jem didn’t take care of Emma but then goes on to play family with Kit. After CoHF Jem goes to explore the world with Tessa and marry her. He wants to look after Emma but only after the parabatai ceremony with Julian does Jem come clean about his name to Emma. Convenient to say the least.

[jrosa82fanposts]

I was going to try talking about a non- tsc related topic but I keep seeing something that's driving me crazy.

SPOILERS FOR CH 1 OF TWP BOOK 1 BELOW

okay so why does everyone assume Dru forgot Ash. Like I can't count the number of times I've had a dream, woken up, and if I didn't think really hard about it, I would forget the whole thing. As far as Dru is aware that one meeting with Ash was like a weird dream or something? (Might be wrong haven't re-read tda recently).

Also it's been over a year since that happened, why would she obsess over a single meeting? Just seems like everyone is assuming the most dramatic outcome and I'm over hear like 'lol Ash is still thinking about her and Dru barely remembers him' (although note she did remember him she just had a moment where she was like "What was that guy's name again?" Which I think is fair because names are hard.

Maybe Ash remembers cause he hasn't got much to occupy his time with while Dru literally had a battle and family drama to think about right after their meeting.

Idk but I hope everyone who thinks that is wrong because that idea would be so "angst for the sake of angst" and I don't need that when Kit and Ty will be giving all the angst with their miscommunication and misunderstandings (very much feel like the Herondales are cursed to suffer angst before they're allowed to be in a happy relationship and I'm not looking forward to that but it is what it is).

This isn't meant to drag anyone's ideas BTW I'd just like someone to give me a deeper analysis on why they think she forgot him when it's something that hasn't been mentioned explicitly (ie we'd need another scene of her meeting Ash soon after and being like "who is this complete stranger and why do i feel like i should know his name?"). Like if Aureline (hope I spelled that right) had made someone keep forgetting her, I feel like it would have been brought up. Feel free to share your thoughts.

<3J

[fairdale]

fav songs that remind you of kitty?🫶🏻

(this is me just looking for recs really)

okay!! so, i might have gone a bit overboad but i love making playlists and sharing songs and you just gave me the perfect idea soo i did a little something sdklfskl

so basically it goes from kit's childhood, to him discovering he's a shadowhunter, to him falling for ty, to him leaving, to him finding a new family with jem, tessa and mina.

maybe some people won't agree with my choices, but i think they fit his story pretty much (it can be a little open to interpretation which i like) and they sound really good together.

i personally love them, so i hope you do too and that you discover new music to love <3

[ave-atque-vale-herondale]

also (same anon as before) tell me how you felt about qoaad!! any predictions for twp?

if you haven’t, i recommend reading the novella books:

- the bane chronicles is fun especially if you like magnus.

- tftsa was so cute i loved her (read nothing but shadows before you read tlh)!!

- ghosts of the shadow market is definitely super important for world building for tlh and twp, so i strongly recommend reading it before them (it could be a little boring at times, i admit. but jessa is adorable). read cast long shadows and every exquisite thing before you read tlh. the rest is a lot of world building for kit’s background and jessa.

- OH OH also read the tec series if you haven’t (it follows malec) and i think it’ll eventually connect to twp.

- i believe cassie has these short stories about the tlh cast set before chain of gold. i remember reading them every month on her newsletter before the book came out. i think you can find them on her website? they’re not super important but they do get referenced once in a while in tlh

you probably know all of this and i probably mansplained (can you do that if you’re a girl?) everything 😭 but it’s better to be safe than sorry!! i hope you had fun reading everything and def let me know if you have any questions!

I'm gonna do my best to answer this in a comprehensive manner (let's see how long that lasts lol). You're my fave! (feel free to pop into my messages if you ever wanna chat or anything)

Okay I'm gonna start by saying that I had a strange relationship w TDA. I mentioned some of this in my initial post but I'm just gonna go through everything for continuity sake, if you will. Last summer I intended to finish the 3 series before my semester started. I got through all of TMI and TID but finished only LM and 150-ish pages of LoS. I waited till this summer to pick back up. I remember feeling bitter when I started LM because it was strange to have a modern-set book that didn't focus on my fave TMI gang (I watched the CoB movie religiously when I was younger and, before I knew better, watched the show weekly). It took me a while for Emma to grow on me and I initially had a hard time keeping track of all of the Blackthorns because there were so many of them. What kept me going were all of the connections to Mr. Poe (yes, I just called him that. deal with it.) I've started rambling so let me summarize this portion by saying that TDA didn't snatch me up until mid-LoS. okay, onward.

QoAaD was so reminiscent of CoHF and I loved it very much. WARNING SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO MAY READ THIS FOR SOME UNGODLY REASON. I appreciate the importance of the Thule portion and know the book would be shit without it, but, despite it still being fantastical, the apocalyptic vibe was not my fave. It was nice to get Livvy back for a bit (can I just say how shocking it was to have her death right after Robert? cause I feel like cc v rarely kills important characters so I thought Robert was fulfilling the death requirement yk?) and I LOVE to hate Sebastian. I'm gonna say something crazy here. I love Kit and Kieran more than I love a majority of the Blackthorns. Kit has been my fave character from this trilogy and I am not ashamed to admit it. The entire Ty Livvy spell shit was crazy because I completely felt Kit and wasn't angry at him for not outright saying that it was a bad idea, especially given the situation. I just can't believe cc had me expecting them to be fully in love with each other by then end, ONLY FOR THEM TO NOT EVEN BE ON SPEAKING TERMS (yes I know I need to be up to date w SoBH, I just need business day or two to marinate in my TDA emotions). The battle was epic, Julien's meeting was genius, Kieran is a great king, and the Malec wedding nearly had me sobbing. I'm gonna stop here w my thoughts on QoAaD cause it's getting out of hand. I am so sorry I am typing you up a full essay.

Predictions:

watch cc give us a 3rd plot that gets crazy because of some questionable heavenly fire incident (I mean, technically all three series plots that I've read have involved it if you count Jace's affect on Jem).

I'm super worried about a main character death because I think it would shatter me but it's also probably necessary? idk I dont wanna think about it

I also feel like something crazy is gonna happen to Aline and Helen because although they were literally exiled, nothing too traumatic happened to them in the main line of the story that the reader got to directly experience

not a prediction but truly me BEGGING ON MY KNEES for Jace and Kit content. I need them to be drama Herondales together. Also, Jace literally told him to come to him for personal advice so Jace helping Kit deal w his relationship w/feelings for Ty would be ideal (I really don't know how that would happen but let a person dream)

Final Segment:

Don't worry about mansplaining, youre good bae. I'm in the loop but I'm also not at the same time, if that makes any sense at all (there goes my promise of writing in a comprehensive manner). The only reason I haven't purchased the novellas is solely because it's more efficient for me to purchase a box set of a trilogy. (I do have the Codex and The Denizens of the Downworld books though). CC has done her best to make her world make sense but that woman writes up a storm and no matter what I'm always behind lol.

[drusilla-carstairs]

Is it bad that I didn’t care for kits death?? I was never a huge fan of his just because he’s hard to take serious ._.

I don’t feel comfortable saying it to moots because they love him and i’m scared of their reactions so thanks for letting me vent

This is such a bold take but I’m glad you came to me with it lol.

I do love Christopher, honestly he’s one of my favorite of The Merry Thieves (he was my second favorite but Thomas just got so much better in this book), but I didn’t fully care for his death either, which is the problem.

It didn’t get the emotional weight it deserved. Deaths like Max Lightwood and Sebastian Morgenstern got more screen time and impact than Kit did. I barely even teared up at it, and I can cry at almost any piece of media that has ever existed.

Most of the time spent grieving Kit was with Anna, which makes sense because she is his sister, but we got barely any scenes between Christopher and Anna before this book. Why didn’t we see his parents react? James and Matthew? The whole section for grief was mainly dedicated to J&M being in hell, which sucks.

P.S. I get where you’re coming from with Christopher being hard to take seriously, but honestly I believe in the end he was just supposed to be that. One of those truly good innocent characters that is easy to kill. Which really sucks because he had so much more potential.

[annafromuni]

My Thoughts on Cassandra Clare's The Dark Artifices Trilogy

It has been over a year since I read The Dark Artifices Trilogy by Cassandra Clare, but I wanted to hold off on writing this review because I wanted to get through the original series first. That took longer than expected with the seven-month break between reading the fifth and sixth books. Now that The Mortal Instruments books are all read and I have made my series review of it, which you can…

[livvyofthelake]

ok. i think i’ve said all i need to say about that book. unless anyone has a specific ass question they wanna talk about but i don’t see that happening considering i do not think any of you have read this book <3

[tiredandoptimistic]

That conversation is definitely a good scene, I guess I just don't find Jace's reasoning there to be super convincing. I do enjoy Jace's relationship with the memory of Stephen, but the idea that there's any importance to keeping a name alive just isn't something that appeals to me (though I accept that it is important to Jace).

The rest of my explanation kinda turned into a rant about the whole demon blood thing, so I'm putting it under a read more in case anybody doesn't want to see that.

Jace talks in that passage about how a name doesn't change the truth of who you are, and I just really don't like that sentiment. He says that Sebastian changing his name didn't change who he was, and implies that he was born a Herondale and thus is inherently a Herondale forever. It just feels so contradictory to the main thesis of TMI; to claim that the name someone was given at birth is somehow bound to their immutable self. (As a sidenote, this is why I don't like Sebastian as a villain. I think it's uninteresting to say that "he was born evil because of demon blood and that can never change"). I think TMI would be more interesting if Sebastian was capable of change, and I think that the story falls flat if Jace isn't. The demon blood storyline felt like it was building to Jace realizing that his genetic composition doesn't make him inherently evil, but instead it ended with him being reassured that actually he's biologically good and it's somebody else who's biologically evil. (It's not "your blood doesn't define you," it's "don't worry, somebody else got the demon blood so he's the one being defined by it"). Rather than learning that his relationship to Valentine doesn't define him, he gets to learn that actually he has a different father and a different family to be genetically predefined by. I'm not saying that I want Jace to be related to Valentine (I'm a Clace shipper after all), but I wish that the demon blood hadn't turned Sebastian evil either, and that Jace and Clary would be forced to deal with the fact that it was just Valentine's shitty parenting that made him turn out that way. Jace is treating it as a fact here that people can't change, that he's a Herondale and denying that fact would do nothing good for anybody. I think that people can change, and that the names belonging to your ancestors mean nothing on their own. He may not hate Stephen, but I don't think that he's got any reason to take his name (and it's very noticeable that he doesn't even consider calling himself Montclaire, even though as far as I'm aware that family would also die with him).

That got more aggressive than I intended, and I hope you don't think any of it was directed at you. I do think that him going by Jace Lightwood Herondale would be a good compromise so that he could express multiple facets of his family history, I just got distracted by how much the demon blood storyline annoys me (I still love TMI to bits though). I also think you made a really good point about him losing the right to the name in a year, since time pressure could definitely freak a person out. In a way it's safer for him to go by Herondale, because it's something he could lose; while the Lightwood family will always be open to him.

My firmest TSC take will always be that Jace should have gone by Lightwood in the end. I get that him being a Herondale makes sense in the grand scheme of the TSC universe (him, Will, James, Kit, and Edmund are all birds of a feather), but his personal arc is far more dependent on the family who raised him. Learning about his biological parents is of course important to him, but calling himself a Herondale doesn't actually feel like a resolution to his identity crisis. TMI is all about rejecting the hatred handed down from previous generations, which is why neither Clary nor Jace identify as Morgensterns. While Stephen was nowhere near as bad as Valentine, he also did even less to shape Jace into his adult self. Robert and Maryse on the other hand actually raised him for half his life, and Alec Isabelle and Max grew up alongside him as his siblings. He's a Lightwood in every way that matters, I don't get why Jace (in-universe) would choose to identify himself as a Herondale when there's nothing tying him to that family but blood spilled before he was born.

Anyways, I'm a Jace Lightwood truther for life, thank you for coming to my tedtalk

[im-out-of-it]

I will be finishing up the last of episode 12, season 1 of MALEC tomorrow (I think) but while that is wrapping up-

WE HAVE ONE MORE EPISODE OF SEASON ONE!!!!!!!!

so I’ll be doing a sort of wrap up/round up to express what I enjoyed overall and didn’t, basically a summary since my posts have many details. and I’d like to take that time to include gifs I forgot about or didn’t include

I’m learning I don’t need to post everyday and to take my time so I hope everyone is okay with that??????

but I mean we all love show Malec so it’s okay?????

SOMEONE TELL ME ITS OKAY

I really enjoy making these posts. they’re so fun and it feels like my own little tumblr-pod in a way so I hope anyone who is reading it is also having fun

I’m really excited for season two (WE KNOW WHICH SEASON WE ARE ALL EXCITED ABOUT)

so if anyone feels like I don’t know maybe fucking contributing (if anyone wants) and wants to share any fav moments of season one, I would be glad to add those in about a week or so

I’m also very psyched for the next episode and will be trying to get that out in the next few days or so (THE TENSION IS SOOOOOOOOO HEATED)

THANK YOU LOVELIES FOR BEING PATIENT AND PUTTING UP WITH ME 🥹

[ghostbustermelanieking]

i still can't believe that for all amatis's talking to jace as the ex wife of his father, nobody bothered to mention that luke dated his mother

[witchlingcirce]

Recently I’ve seen a lot of discussion about WHAT will Ty’s punishment be for necromancy.

I think the real discussion needs to go how will the clave react. a lot of people are like “nothing will happen!!” And I thinks that because Alec and Diego are friendly enough people, and I also think the perception of “nothing will happen” is due to how poorly Jesse’s resurrection was handled as well.

While I doubt they’d lock Ty in a cell in a long period of time- I do think there’s a couple of punishments he could receive.

I genuinely do think that Ty being banished from the shadow world will be a looming idea throughout. Do I think he will actually be banished? No. But what’s a shadowhunter series with at least one character getting threatened to be kicked out shadow society. I’d assume he’d be threatened with banishment, than do something honourable and they’d give him a pardon.

The punishment that I think that will most likely be is that Ty will get kicked out the centurion’s. I think this would genuinely be an impactful punishment, and also one that makes sense. I feel like Ty getting kicked out of his centurion position will really put into perspective of “what was this all for?”. And also being a centurion has been a life long dream of Ty, and so id wonder how it would impact him.

Those are just my ideas on how the council may react!! I actually do hope the council does take the resurrection seriously! I think it’s been built up a lot and so I’m expecting a verryyyy serious trial scene 👀