#selina's big score

[ufonaut]

I’m not talking about right or wrong... I’m talking about basic human dignity.

Catwoman: Selina’s Big Score (2002) #1

(Darwyn Cooke)

[t4tails]

the fearsome catwoman:

[martyrbat]

catwoman: selina's big score

HI HI HI FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HELLO......

[batbaffle]

this book is gooooooood dude

[graythursday]

she is so dear to me

[wintersettled]

Here's a list of recs if you'd like to read somecomics about different batfam characters:

BRUCE WAYNE - Batman: Year One (1987) - Batman: The Long Halloween (1996) & Dark Victory (2000) - Batman: Knightfall Saga (1993) - Batman: No Man's Land Saga (1999)

SELINA KYLE - Catwoman (1989) - Catwoman (1993) - Catwoman: When in Rome - Catwoman: Selina's Big Score

DICK GRAYSON - Robin & Batman (2022) - Robin: Year One - The New Teen Titans (1980) - Nightwing (2016) #35-43 - Batman: Black Mirror

JASON TODD - Batman: The Cult - Batman: A Death in the Family (i dont actually care for this but i feel obligated to include it so here...) - Batman: Under the Red Hood - Robin Lives!

TIM DRAKE - Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying - Robin (1993) - Young Justice (1998)

CASSANDRA CAIN - Batgirl (2000) - Batgirl (2008) - Batgirl (2024) - Birds of Prey (2023) (which also includes Barbara!)

BARBARA GORDON - Batgirl: Year One - Black Canary/Oracle: Birds of Prey - Birds of Prey (1999) (especially Gail Simones run!!) - Suicide Squad (1987) #49-50

DAMIAN WAYNE - Batman and Robin (2011) - Robin: Son of Batman - Robin (2021) - The Boy Wonder - Batman & Robin (2023) (currently ongoing! imo this would be a good place to start reading since its happening right now so you can see it happen along with everyone else!)

DUKE THOMAS - Batman: Zero Year - We Are Robin - Batman & The Signal

HELENA BERTINELLI - Huntress: Year One - The Huntress (1989) - Batman/Huntress: Cry for Blood - Helena is also a character in birds of prey from issues #57-127 and a reocurring bat character in the 90s

STEPHANIE BROWN - Detective Comics #647-649 - Showcase '95 #5 - Robin (1993) #126-147 (steph has a ton of appearances in Robin 1993 so it would be good to read that for more or to look through her appearances on locg if you just want to read about her! these chapters are her as Robin.) - Batgirl (2009)

I haven't read a super large amount for every single one of them so disclaimer that some of the ones I mention here might not be their best! These are what I could think of but there are plenty more, especially as standalone issues, so if anyone sees this please mention more!! also, there are lots of comics that are questionable but this list was very much on the fly off the top of my head so i was kind of sat here with my head in my hands like 'god i need to give more than one jason todd comic dont i....' and this was all i could come up with that wasnt like.... a random detective comics issue idk

I'd also like to say these feature a lot of minis just for ease but there are a ton of really good guides available for these character -- imo a lot of Jason's best stuff is as Robin within tec and batman

[basalting]

late night drive

dont look at the date im actually posting this. im a disaster human. i'll post this on AO3 eventually

day one of @jasontoddweek2025 - drive - time travel - batmobile tires

Red Hood and Catwoman meet up at a robbery and have to make a quick escape.

jason todd & selina kyle - 1756 words

It’s rare that he tangles with Selina, drug lords and arms smugglers aren’t usually dipping into the fine art or jewellery trade, after all.

So after his talks with the Maroni-Russo’s fell through, Jason figured if they didn’t wanna play ball - he’d show them why every stupid son-of-a-bitch that had tried to fuck around in Crime Alley had left either with their tail between their legs or in a body-bag. The locks and security on the warehouse they were renting through a shell company were, frankly, laughable.

Because he is the universes favourite punching bag, he wasn’t the only one sneaking around the warehouse.

��Hi Hood,” Selina purrs, crouching on an exposed rafter above him, ��you got a score here too?”

“Selina.”

“Wow. So monosyllabic, here I thought big B was the only one word wonder.”

”Selina!” The chances that he would actually hit her if he shot her were low, but she was really making him want to try. Selina dropped down, reaching out to pat him on the chest.

“So what’re you here for? I got word that there’s some high quality uncut gems being hidden in a shipment of concealed cocaine passing through here. Despite my best efforts you’ve never been one for sparkles, so why’re you here Hood?”

Hood grunted, “I’m here to show these idiots what happens when you try to fuck around in Crime Alley without Red Hood’s permission… Anything extra I take is a little bonus.”

Selina laughed, “Want to kill two birds with one stone? You scratch my back, I scratch yours?”

Hood nodded towards her diamond-tipped claws. “I’d prefer no scratching, thanks.”

“No promises.” Selina winked and, side by side, the stepped deeper into the warehouse.

———

Most of the shit in here was a bust. The weapons were shitty, subpar quality that would probably jam without a delicate hand maintaining them. What drugs he did find the tester he’d made showed high levels of contaminates, the usual fun mixes of cocaine with morphine or isotonitazene. He shot O a message, he’d get rid of everything that was here but it would be hard to know if or how much of this shit was already on the streets. He’d have his people on the look out for potential OD’s, Red Hood’s drugs were more expensive but they were guaranteed to be clean.

Not that that always mattered to the addicts.

So tonight was a bust, nothing of value to keep or sell. A bunch of fucked drugs that might be killing people right now. And-

“Hey Hood! Gimme a hand!”

Selina being Selina.

“What.” Hood scowled at her through the helmet, Selina shoved a crowbar at him. Hood forced down his flinch.

“Show me that those muscles aren’t just for show and pop this baby open for me. I’ve got a good feeling.”

Hood jammed the pointed end into the seam of the crate and grunted, forcing it open. Tucked inside were boxes surrounded by padding, Selina hummed pulling one of the boxes out and fiddling with it.

“Ah-ha!” She held out an ugly vase with a flourish.

“Wow,” Hood said dryly, “it’s ugly as shit.”

“It’s also a fake.”

Hood tilted his head, waiting for her to continue. “The weight’s all wrong,” Selina tossed the vase to him and pulled out another box, ripping through the cardboard easily. “And the glazing? Please. Amateur work. But,” She weighed the vase in her hand, smiling at him, “Who expects drugs and jewels in a box of ugly pottery.”

And then she threw the vase on the ground.

The thin layer of ceramic on the outside shattered, revealing something white covered in plastic.

“What in the convoluted bullshit…”

Selina laughed, not the soft, sultry chuckle Jason remembered from fancy parties Selina would flirt her way into, but the loud, barking laugh that - despite all the years and blood between the boy he’d once been and who he was now - still had the corners of his mouth curl.

“Oh kitten, never underestimate the audacity of an idiot trying to outsmart his enemies.” Diamond tipped claws sliced through the plastic and started sifting the gems out of the broken clay and powder, tucking them away into an almost invisible pouch on her catsuit.

Something sharp and sour twisted in his chest, “I’m not Bruce’s fucking pet.”

“Not Bruce’s,” Selina agreed, straightening up to meet his eyes through his helmet, “Mine.”

And it wasn’t- Selina had never been his mom. Had never tried. Was too stray cat to ever let anyone keep her, but she’d always come back. Even when she was pissed at Bruce, even when she was only in Gotham for a few hours. She’d steal him away to help feel feral cats, or to have some of her eye-wateringly spicy curry, or he’d find some rare or obscure book in his locker at school and know that she’d stopped by.

It had been nice, to have someone who loved him even if it was from a distance. Selina hadn’t held to pretense, not with any of Bruce’s kids. She would keep an eye on them while she was around, would occasionally bring them presents from whatever country she’d been in. But she’d never promised to stick around.

And she’d always made sure he knew that she wasn’t leaving because of him.

Hood sighed, “Let’s get outta he-“

Selina lunged, slamming into him. Hood stumbled back just as a bullet punched into the side of the crate where his head had been. Selina rolled over him and pulled herself up easily, Hood cursed, set and dropped one of his timed explosives and ran after her.

“You got a get away Hood?” One of the Maroni-Russo’s men ran at them and Selina lashed out, dragging her claws through his throat and neatly ducking the spray of blood as he collapsed. Hood leapt over the body and dropped another explosive on it.

“Nope but this place is gonna blow in 8 minutes and I’m not dying in a fucking warehouse again.”

Selina almost stumbled at that, “Looks like you’re riding with me then. C’mon.”

Hood threw his last explosive right at one of the assholes firing at them and followed her into the night.

———

Selina’s ‘work car’ was a cheap looking piece of shit, which meant it was almost indistinguishable from any of the other shit boxes parked on the street. Muted grey with a long scrape down the side and a crooked bumper sticker that proudly proclaimed the car was ‘Powered by Pussy!’

Unsurprisingly it smelt heavily of cat but thankfully not overwhelmingly of cat piss. Selina floored it, the HUD of his helmet had a countdown and they were less than a minute out. Hood rolled the window down, jesus this car still had window cranks, and fired at the idiots bunched up together by the warehouse.

“Might want to step on it Selina, 45 seconds and counting.”

Selina was a lead foot and they screeched into traffic, cutting and swerving to get distance between themselves and the warehouse. In the corner of his eye Hood saw the countdown ticking to zero. They slowed to a normal speed, eeking into a pool of traffic that would hopefully conceal them from anyone watching, just in time for the explosives he’d left to go off. The bombs he’d left weren’t huge, but he must’ve thrown one near some vehicles or something else flammable because the explosion was way, way larger than anything he’d been packing could’ve caused.

“Nice fireworks.” Selina said, eyes flicking up to watch the smoke. “Where am I taking you?”

Hood’s fingers twitched, he ached for a cigarette, “Anywhere quiet. Doesn’t matter where.” The helmet was almost unbearably stuffy now, he yanked it off - letting it drop between his feet into the foot well.

The engine purred, Selina sighed, “Jason.”

“Stop-“

”Jason.”

There was a beat of silence, in the distance sirens headed towards the explosion. Selina tapped her fingers against the wheel, swallowed.

“I’m glad,” Her voice was as gentle as it had ever been, “that you’re back. I won’t claim to understand any of it, but-“ Her voice sounded wet, Jason’s eyes burned. He pressed the heels of his palms against his eyes, hard.

“I missed you Jason. So much.”

“Well you’re the first.” He scoffed, letting his hands fall limp into his lap. “It’s not like I was even cold in the ground before Batman had another, better kid in the cape.”

The conflicting bundle of emotion that Tim fucking Drake brought up sat like a stone in his throat; the perfect, polite, Bristol boy. Bruce’s perfect little toy soldier. He saw Selina whip her head around to look at him, dark eyes wide.

“You-“

Selina yanked the wheel, flipping off a driver who started yelling as she cut in front of them. Fast and reckless, Selina carved a path through the late night traffic until she finally jerked to a stop. Slowly slid her hands off the wheel and turned to stare at the side of his head. Jason glared at the overflowing dumpster in front of the car, refusing to make eye contact.

“I don’t know what’s happened between you and Bruce since you came back, and I won’t ask, but Jason… You dying destroyed Bruce. That man loves you.”

“Can we not?” Jason asked tiredly, he didn’t want to think about Bruce. About the complicated tangle of hurt and love and pain and betrayal and fear that was him and Bruce.

Selina pulled her mask off, tossing it in the backseat. She looked tired. "I missed the hell outta you kid, I hope you know that."

The seat creaked as she lent over, hand coming up to cup the side of his head as she pressed a kiss to his sweaty hair. Jason's breathing hitched, tears burned under his closed eyelids.

He knew, knew that Bruce and Dick and Alfred had missed him. But hearing it, that he'd mattered, that his death had been more than a footnote in anyone's life, was so fucking nice.

"I know." he said, voice think with tears, with everything he didn't know how to say. Selina pressed her lips harder against his hair, she was always good at hearing what people didn't say.

“Alright kitten,” Selina said quietly, those wickedly sharp claws scratched his scalp gently. “I’ll drive you home, just rest.”

The car rumbled comfortingly under his ass and the radio was playing softly and Selina hummed along to the music. Jason closed his eyes and slept.

[pannotian]

Read catwoman selinas big score or perish

[soleminisanction]

Why did TD:R fail? Was it a flop? I could tolerate the art style but I’d feel bad if it was just for that.

There's no way for anybody on the outside to know for sure. You'd have to ask someone at DC, and they might not be able to tell you depending on the current NDA situation over there.

From the outside, I can tell you it sure felt like the art on the first arc is what tanked the series. I didn't have a problem with it either because I like stylized art (barring a few exceptions -- the coloring on Batgirls triggers my migraines), and because I gave it a shot I saw what they were going for. It was the art style that best suited the Clayface-gone-wrong tech the villains were using, and for establishing the quirky, offbeat and (some would say) off-putting setting and characters of the Gotham Marina.

But when the series was running, all you ever heard were two discussion points over and over again: the art is ugly, and how dare there be gay boys romance in my superhero comic, with people acting like Bernard was getting sooooo much more page time than, say... Lois Lane. Iris and Linda West. Selina Kyle. The romance between Dick and Babs over in Nightwing. The romance between Harley and Ivy in everything they're in. You get me.

(As if that relationship wasn't the thing that got the book greenlit in the first place, given that it scored DC a shitton of free mainstream press the year before.)

And the thing is, people are always going to bitch about the writing on an ongoing book. Always. Gestures vaguely at current comics discourse. It's a big-ass fandom, somebody's always unhappy with what they're doing, they always, always blame the writers, and that goes double for anything written by a young woman like Meghan Fitzmartin. Double double if that young women happened to shake up the status quo in a majorly progressive way, like say, making an established character canonically queer.

So if it had just been that the book probably could've gone on at least as long as Batgirls did. And when they switched artists, people who were invested in the Tim/Ber relationship and in Tim's ongoing story started paying attention again and actually talking about the story. But by then it was too late, the book had already been canceled and was wrapping up, and it was genuinely a shame.

The book is fine. It's not a masterpiece, but it's fun and perfectly workmanlike and it loves Tim without shitting on other characters -- even when he does get a "issue where he fights the other Robins" (I assume this was an editorial mandate because both Jason and Damian had similar issues in their solos around the same time and that feels like way too much of a coincidence) it's a) not actually them and b) mostly about praising them for how good they are and how the copies are inferior.

The above statement, admittedly, does not apply to the marketing around the book, which I can only imagine didn't help matters because it was very cringe.

So yeah, that's the long and short of it by my estimations. TD:R took a big artistic swing in its first arc that failed to connect with its audience and then was just never given the chance to recover. It's sad.

[cooketimm]

Darwyn Cooke — Selina's Big Score Cast of Characters 

[graylinguine]

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[ufonaut]

Slam, I’m a thief. If we’re going to be friends, you have to accept that. Tonight I earned every cent of that money, with the blood of four of my friends. I need you to respect that. I need you to understand that I don’t want to talk about tonight, ever again.

Catwoman: Selina’s Big Score (2002) #1

(Darwyn Cooke)

[t4tails]

hope this isn't weird but since you're nearing the end of the 90s Catwoman run: before starting the 2002 run there's some in between stories that inform some of the major events in the first few issues of that run: the backups from Detective Comics 1937 #759-762 and the storyline Selina's Big Score which is collected in 'Batman: Ego and other tales' (also convenient if you haven't read Batman Ego yet).

i don't remember if you read Batman Year One and the short 80s Catwoman storyline that's connected to it but those are also very important to the 2000s Catwoman run because it leans a lot more on that era of her character than on the 90s run you're reading rn. - figured i'd give you a heads up because when i read it i didn't know and had to backread all of that after haha

no this isnt weird at all thank you!! i knew about selina's big score but i didnt realize it should be read before the first few issues of her 2nd run? i normally go by release date on locg so stuff like that can slip past me. and when you say 80s catwoman storyline i assume youre referring to sisters keeper which yes i have read! though i actually havent read batman year one properly yet 💀 i watched the movie adaptation and frank miller pisses me off so i guess i should probably remember to grit my teeth through that soon lol

[martyrbat]

catwoman: selina's big score

[ID: a blue tinted pin-up of Selina Kyle in her black Catwoman costume. She's on the ledge of a building as the backdrop behind her is lined with skyscrapers and a blue sky. She's on her tip toes as she looks in a compact mirror and is pulling her cowl away from her head with a small grimace. END ID]

[hardcore-direwolf]

I made this time-line for Eva Nelson with Gwen Tennyson's face claim!

Quest/Teen Titans/Origins (S0): Eva Nelson (10-11) is taken under the claws of her godmother Selina Kyle since her parents and family members lived in Bellwood. She starts as Mouse, Robin's main romantic interest and the very first female sidekick in history with pure magic energy. Eva was graduating from Evermore College as honorable valedictorian and has the highest scores due to her skilled talents. She meets her godfather Bruce Wayne and her crush Dick Grayson through Gotham City's Red Carpet Gala with her godmother, who's a famous entrepreneur of expensive jewelry and fashion trends. Eva goes platinum and gold with music, dancing, acting, videos, movies, and more. She was the Lucky Girl of Gotham City and she begins her journey in Tokyo, Japan...as Mouse...with trouble right down her path. Will she become the White Kitten Thief or will this "kitty" lose her claws?

Retaliation/Next Generation/Infinity (S1): Eva Nelson (12-13) is currently in Friedkin University for her doctorate degrees and has the best elite awards. She founded the Team with Robin I, Aqualad II, Kid Flash I, Superboy I, Miss Martian, Wonder Girl I (OFC: Ophelia Trevor), and Artemis I. Eva lost her paternal grandfather Kent Nelson and her maternal grandmother Inza Cramer to her two major enemies as Catgirl, who then awakens her hybrid form and fuse her pure mana with her inner phoenix out of mixed emotions when all of her loved ones got hurt at the Tower of Fate. The Forever Knights and Genomorphs join alongside Zephyr Incorporated after the head manager of the company turns out to be Dubbilex. The battle between henchmen and sidekicks has begun, a powerful watch is upgraded and its wielder is her best friend Lumus (OMC: Matt Ferris). The Young Justice League have fully merged with the Teen Titans, and the fight against Onslaught and Incursion is on. Who will win this epic battle?

Legacy/Invasion/Aftermath (S2): Eva Nelson (17-18) earns all of her degrees and start her mana training during the whole five-year gap at Legerdomain, Zoraster, Soulland, Anodyne, and Earth. She resurrects all the loved ones of her close friends at the Forge of Creation, saved Kid Flash I within her Anodite form, and ended a ginormous alien invasion by fusing with Solstice...the life-force phoenix within her soul to scare them off and absorb all of the zero-point energy from all 21 Magnetic Field Disruptors in order to save Planet Earth against the quantum forces of evil. Eva becomes Black Cat during that time with Nightwing (Robin I) as her boyfriend, she currently has three adopted god-sisters and was their big sister figure. It's the war between the Team against the Light, Hive, Reach, and Naga for the safety of Planet Earth...and one shocking plot twist is...uncovered. What secrets are hidden in this saga?

Darkside/Outsiders/Enlightenment (S3): Eva Nelson (20-21) was pregnant and expecting a magical pair of baby twins with Nightwing during the two-year gap, they've been engaged and to be married at a private ceremony. They secretly tied the knot without any villains knowing their location at Anodyne, though they have to save meta-humans and protect mutants from more villains on Earth. Eva were being aligned with the Genomorphs and Forever Knights, but are defending them against the Lucabras and Flame Keepers who were trying to make her a living sacrifice to their inner circle by doing a blood ritual in order to summon Dagon. The birth of the next generation has arrived and this one will be the most extraordinary one...yet. Can the Team protect her and her family from Dagon?

Phantoms/Ultimate Team/Targets (S4): Eva Nelson (23-24) saves Steel Scion (Superboy I) and Rocket I from the Zod War. She brought Changeling (Beast Boy I), White Raven, Cyborg I, Starfire, Lumus (OMC), Zatanna, Aquaman II (Aqualad II), Wonder Woman II (Wonder Girl I/OFC), Breach (OMC), Tigress (Artemis I), Nightwing, Miss Martian, and Flash III (Kid Flash I) with her to save the Son of Steel and revive Rocket I. It's the Team against General Zod's family, the final battle that destroys the House of Zod with the El Family's remaining members, and the Lucky Girl faces off against her grandmother's greatest enemy with Tashmetum by using the Mask of Destiny to become Mistress Destiny. It's about to be a swarm of nanochips and the Team is prepared to take down the Decoy Queen of the Hive...once and for all. Will they dethrone this monarch and end the general?

Armageddon/Missing Years/Enhanced (S5): Eva Nelson (29-30) is back and is ready to take down some bad guys with her loved ones. The Lucky Girl joined forces with the rest of the Team to defeat Darkseid after he destroys the Map of Infinity to cause the dimensional paradox, she revives it and restores everlasting peace by balancing an internal vortex of portals to revert everything back in place. Eva becomes the main entrepreneur and head president of Zephyr Incorporated, wedded spouse of Dick Grayson, mother of two children, and future member of the new Justice League of America. Time must be restored and every paradox must stay...infinite. Will the Team be able to fix the time-lines?

She's voiced by the late Meagan Smith at Origins and in her childhood memories. Her permanent voice will be Hayley Williams of Paramore for Retaliation to Phantoms, and it fits her well. Her future voice will come from Erica Lindbeck, who voiced Felicia Hardy aka "Black Cat" from "Spider-Man".

[graythursday]

this just means a lot to me okay