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daemonianymphe-official · 1 year ago
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In 2000 we recorded for the first time the oldest surviving complete musical composition, including musical notation, from anywhere in the world. We have performed ''Epitaph of Seikilos'' many times during our concerts (for Daemonia Nymphe) with different orchestration and vocals but this is the only time that we recorded it live in the recording studio. With Daemonia Nymphe we intend to record it again in the near future, but for now please have a listen to our (first) version of one of the most important pieces in music history.
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triflesandparsnips · 10 months ago
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So yesterday, I learned about the Seikilos epitaph.
Per Wikipedia and this much longer article from Antigone Journal, the Seikilos epitaph is a complete four-line Greek lyric poem. It was carved into a short marble stele sometime in maybe the 1st century CE, maybe the 2nd. The stele was then set, and later discovered, near the city of Tralles (close to modern-day Aydin, in Turkey).
Before the poem is a two-line couplet that can be translated as:
I am an image and a stone; Seikilos sets me up here As a long-lasting sign of undying memory.
--and then following the poem the name of the artist/author, either "Seikilos to Euterpe" or "Seikilos, son of Euterpres". In between those two points, though, is the poem itself, which I fucking love. A translation of it might read:
While you live, shine! Have no grief at all. Life exists only for a short while and Time demands his due.
--which tbh would be fabulous enough, but...
carved above the words
is musical notation.
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The Seikilos epitaph is the record of a two-thousand-year-old song.
And like anything that's That Old, there's of course a fair bit of academic infighting regarding:
whether the stele is really a gravemarker or just the work of a silly lil guy going big with publishing his masterpiece;
whether it was really written as early (or as late) as people think, based on what seems to be Ye Olde Handwriting Analysis;
and even what the actual song would have actually sounded like, because the notation only tells us the pitch, duration, and movement of the sung line, and not, like, what's emphasized/stressed, the rhythm, the modulations, the scale--
But.
Unlike a lot of ancient music... we do have all the melody. And we have all the words. And so there are people out there who have come up with reconstructions and interpretations-- many of them sad, most of them sweet, all of them fitting for a tombstone...
And then there's this one. A live performance by YK Band, sung as a duet and played on a Tartessian lyre and frame drum. It starts with the simple melody as written on the stele, and then transitions to their version of how the song could, with just as much evidence as any other interpretation, have been sung...
And it's joyous.
I love this. It reminds me that history is amazing. People are amazing. Two thousand years later, and because of the time someone put in to writing these words, the craft of the worker who made the stele, the historians and the musicians and the linguists and the teachers who constantly search and test and try to understand what came before so that we can understand where we came from, who we once were and who we might be again, and put what they learn back out into the world--
Because of all of them, I can sit here, alone and quiet at my computer, and hear someone very, very far away call out a laughing reminder to the dark unknown:
while you live, shine!
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rollforrealisation · 7 months ago
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One of the best songs I ever listened to
'you still listen to music from 10 years ago 🤨?' bitch if prehistoric humans had audio recording technology id be sat up here listening to grog and unga bunga's greatest hits don't play with me
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fleshchyme · 1 month ago
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postalesdesdelentremedio · 7 months ago
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Mientras vivas, brilla,
no sufras por nada en absoluto.
La vida dura poco,
y el tiempo exige su tributo.
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carneirodemercurio · 9 months ago
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As the nine days of Parentalia begin; a time to honour, venerate & remember our departed ancestors, the words of the oldest surviving musical composition from antiquity, the Epitaph of Seikilos come to mind:
"While you live, shine, have no grief at all, life exists only for a short while & time demands his due."
Comezaron os nove días de Parentalia; a ocasión para honrar, venerar e lembrar as ánimas dos nosos antepasados. Durante estes días lémbro as palabras da composición musical máis antiga que se conserva da antigüidade, o Epitafio de Sícilo:
"Mentres vivas, brilla, e non te lamentes nada. Que a vida é curta, e o tempo esixe o final".
Ὅσον ζῇς, φαίνου, μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ· πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν, τὸ τέλος ὁ xρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ
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jodanilo · 10 months ago
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'While you live, shine.'
I fell in love with a song by Gyða Valtýsdóttir a few months ago, and have been annoying the whole family by playing it way too much. It’s haunting and unusual, and in a foreign language. As the artist is Icelandic and I don’t know any Icelandic, I presumed the song was in her language. I was very wrong. The title started me thinking. It looked very Greek. So I searched it up and found that the…
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nuanimistdatabase · 1 year ago
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julianerui · 1 year ago
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Oh, and I found a Greek song, also of the oldest known music, “the Seikilos Epitaph”, engraved on a tombstone.
“The inscription of the piece is “I am a tombstone, an image. Seikilos placed me here as an everlasting sign of deathless remembrance.” The lyric is four lines of text stating:
While you live, shine,
have no grief at all;
life exists only for a short while,
and time demands its toll.
The dedication states “from Seikilos to Euterpe.” Euterpe! This may mean his wife, or the muse, or even “Seikilos, son of Euterpes”. 
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quotes-by-dilanka · 2 years ago
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While you live, shine Have no grief at all, Life exists only for a short while And time demands his due
—Seikilos epitaph
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daemonianymphe-official · 11 months ago
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The ''Seikilos Epitaph'' is the oldest surviving complete musical composition, including musical notation, from anywhere in the world. This is our first ever interpretation of this ancient song using only an 'ancient' Greek lyre, kymbala('ancient' cymbals) and vocals (female & male) recorded 23 years ago. The piece was written by Seikilos and was probably dedicated to his deceased wife Euterpe, which said: 'While you live shine, have no grief at all, life exists only for a short while and time demands its toll'.
Released for the first time on Spotify, Deezer, Apple Music and other digital platforms, enjoy!
ΕΙΚΩΝ Η ΛΙΘΟΣ ΕΙΜΙ. ΤΙΘΗΣΙ ΜΕ ΣΕΙΚΙΛΟΣ ΕΝΘΑ ΜΝΗΜΗΣ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΟΥ ΣΗΜΑ ΠΟΛΥΧΡΟΝΙΟΝ
ΟΣΟΝ ΖΗΣ ΦΑΙΝΟΥ,
ΜΗΔΕΝ ΟΛΩΣ ΣΥ ΛΥΠΟΥ.
ΠΡΟΣ ΟΛΙΓΟΝ ΕΣΤΙ ΤΟ ΖΗΝ,
ΤΟ ΤΕΛΟΣ Ο ΧΡΟΝΟΣ ΑΠΑΙΤΕΙ.
#seikilosepitaph #ancientgreekmusic #ancientruins #Σεικιλος #αρχαιαελληνικημουσικη #ancientgreece
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gaykarstaagforever · 3 months ago
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I, the stone, am an image, and Seikilos places me here, a long-lasting monument to immortal memory
As long as you live, let the world see you, and don't make yourself miserable; life is short, and Time demands his due
Seikilos epitaph, 1st - 2nd century AD
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allbeendonebefore · 4 months ago
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another weaving word:
Orestes: That they who did by craft a chieftain slay May by like craft and in like noose be caught (καὶ ληφθῶσιν ἐν ταὐτῷ βρόχῳ)
βρόχος here is "noose", "snare", "mesh of a net", "halter"
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findusinaweek · 2 years ago
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Music in AC Odyssey
I really wish someone with more musical knowledge would break down the leitmotifs in AC Odyssey’s OST. But I haven’t found anyone yet, and I’m tired and bold so here goes. 
“Legend of the Eagle Bearer” ties AC Odyssey with the larger Assassins' theme of “Ezio’s Family” from AC 2. This is continued in “Enter the Animus”.
The “Korinth” track and “Brasidas” track clearly are tied together, probably because that’s where we first meet him! (This is also why I headcanon that if Brasidas death was faked after Amphopolis, Alexios would take him to the city where they met. It just makes sense after listening to them together. I already picked out their house.)
There is also a clear Myrinne theme that I guess could be a larger familial leitmotif, usually with feminine vocalization or humming. The song that plays when you first start the game is (“Odyssey-Greek Version”) is similar. The game musically starts you out reminiscing and humming along to the familiar theme (and that hits me hard when Alexios hums it).
The song “A Happy Family” transitions from the family/Myrinne theme to cult of Kosmos leitmotif to some kind of inversion of the “Legend of the Eagle Bearer” main theme at 2:46 and I think it’s the best section of the soundtrack. 
I hate the Isu/”Enter the Animus” leitmotif, it’s jarring when I’m just wandering Greece. 
As for the world music:
“Ceremony and Celebration” is from the Epitaph of Seikilos, which is the oldest surviving complete composition that has musical notation (that we know of). It came from a stele, the lyrics translate as: While you live, shine/ have no grief at all/ life exists only for a short while/ and Time demands his toll.
“The Lost Shield” is my favorite shanty that I 100% badly try to sing along to when I play as Alexios. I think about Brasidas’ shield a lot too. 
I usually have an all female crew when playing as Kassandra and “Song for a Young Girl” has such beautiful harmony, I like to think we’re like sirens. Underestimated, beautiful, and then deadly. 
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kenobicoffee · 2 years ago
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but imagine people a million years from now forget the name of your favorite song, and because you loved it so much you put it on your tombstone, people just call it yours. And it ends up being the oldest full composition they’ve ever tracked down. Seikilos really liked that one, out of all of them. So now it’s his forever and ever.
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banana-breadses · 10 days ago
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thinking about the seikilos epitaph
It’s been in my head for a bit.
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