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Is it possible to run into the secret factions at any time or do they only unlock on a certain day or after a specific mission is met?
I.e. if we’re wandering around after school (or looking for the 5 who saw us) is there a possibility of secret faction encounter? (Since survival rate is…less if we do)
Since there is the implied 7 Archons as being a secret faction, would this mean that Lumine/Aether (maybe both?) are possibly the head of the Abyss Order faction?
(Sorry for all the asks - I just would like to survive to the horny harem route - and survive in general tbh)
1. I’m going to say yes to both. As they can be random encounters or be linked to certain main missions/side quests.
2. I cannot answer that since that’s for me to know and for you dear players to find out. But I will say that your survival rate will decrease drastically. (>^ω^<)
3. To clarify the leaders of said secret factions can be anyone so nothing and yet everything can be implied.
4. No worries! I’d love to answer any and all questions yall may have o(≧v≦)o
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Sorry to spam questions. I have brain rot about this.
Would the 7 (Venti, Zhongli, Ei, Nahida, Focalors, etc) have a secret group/society in the school that’s widely respected but not talked about. A sort of higher council than the existing one or a way to control influence in the school?
If so, would they use their canon archon names when referring to “7 business”? (Barbatos, Morax/Rex Lapis, Baal, Buer, etc.)
1. I can’t answer that question since it’ll give too much away. However, I will say that there may be potential secret factions belonging to different leaders hiding within the public eye. And their existence not only impacts the school but also the world outside of it.
Should you happen venture around the district that you’re currently in. You may be unfortunate or fortunate depending on who you run into that may be involved in those said factions. So caution must be advised if you’re determined to be involved with the ones lurking behind the scenes.
Once you’re in, you cannot get out.
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That time a YA Series crossed over with Doctor Who, and know we have solutions to who the Other, Yssgaroth, and Enemy are (2013) [Mimir Canon-Weld]
I was on the Doctor Who Discord Server (in the "canon-welding" channel) and @aristidetwain mentioned a short story called "The Nameless City", which was a crossover between Doctor Who and Michael Scott's Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel . Me and Ryan Fogarty then proceeded to Canon-Weld to regeneration.
This crossover featured the Archons from Scott's series, of which none are named in this crossover short, but in Scott's series three were named: Cernunnus, Coatlicue, and Mimir.
Cernunnus can obviously be can-welded to being @doctornolonger 's creation, Cernunnus the leader of the (original?) Mammoths.
Coatlicue was, within Scott's series, a scientist that turned herself into a monstrosity. According to the TARDIS wiki's "Behind the Scenes" section on the article "Archons (The Nameless City)", she is the "snake-like progenitor of all vampires", although I could not find any source for either the real-life Aztec god nor Scott's creation being either of these. If this were to be true, it allows for an obvious canon-weld with the King Vampires of the Yssgaroth.
"Out of her own DNA she created the original blood drinkers, who would eventually become your race. Coatlicue was the first vampire"
Now we come to Mimir, where things get crazy. In Norse myth, and in Scott's series, Mimir is mentioned to have "given knowledge to Odin". Of course, in my canon-welding mind, I see that literally any Head of the Gods is Rassilon Urizen the Architect. Who else is mentioned to have given Rassilon knowledge? The Other (PROSE: Lungbarrow). Hence, Mimir is the Other. This also fits with the "ancient being" origin for the Other. This means that the Great Houses were helped in development by a species that contained at least two notable members who would eventually become their worst enemies (Coatlicue/Yssgaroth and Cernnunos/The Enemy). The original short story The Nameless City says that the Archons created the seeds for the TARDISs timeships, and that Rassilon Urizen stole the seeds in a great war. This war, presumably, happened before the First War in Heaven / Yssgaroth War, due to the fact that the Great Houses do have timeships in that war. This also gives another motivator for the Yssgaroth in their War besides the Child-That-Was-Taken. The Archons are also mentioned to be the "last of the Old Ones, from the universe before this", but I normally interpret the "universe before this" to refer to the "time before this", i.e. the unachored universe. They also still have a homeworld, the titular Nameless City with the Great Desolation (presumably positioned outside normal spacetime, and I think the main Spiral Politic).
In conclusion, this canon-weld has resulted in a revised timeline (in my personal canon):
Before anything and everything
The Great Old Ones exist somehow.
Most of the Great Old Ones die off, or potentially construct their own Spirals, totally disconnected to the eventual Spiral Politic.
The shobogans are born on the planet Gallifrey
A group of the last Great Old Ones come together as the "Archons"
An order reminiscent of what the Great Houses will be are formed, and the Pythian Order leave Gallifrey (some going to the nearby planet Karn)
The Almost-Great Houses wage many wars against the peoples of the universe, especially the Archons.
Cernunnus creates many "mammoth empires" across the universe
Mimir, in an attempt to stop this devastating War, joins Urizen by his side, only to be remembered simply as "the other"
With the knowledge Mimir had granted him, Odin Urizen finally stole the timeship seeds the Archons had been growing, forcing them to surrender.
The Archons retreat to their own semi-anchored reality, the Great Desolation. Coatlicue presumably creates her own Spiral soon after this, spawning the Yssgaroth.
Tecteun discovers the Child-That-Was-Taken/Timeless Child under a "rift" (in reality one of the early anchors for the Anchoring of the Thread project, already being executed by Urizen). The other side of this rift could be presumed to be the Spiral Yssgaroth.
The Great Houses execute the Anchoring of the Thread, which immediately summons Coatlicue (the King Vampire) to their Homeworld, creating the caldera. The Yssgaroth War begins.
Blah blah blah Pre-War era, blah blah blah the War happens
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