#second half of the episode wdym?
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oreonyu · 1 year ago
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satosugu beach stuff bcuz i need them to be happy
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sweetmariihs2 · 4 months ago
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My stf controversial opinions (no one asked) don't be mad at me pls don't take me seriously
I see Cedric being more like Sofia's uncle figure than father figure (he's the crazy uncle). Their bond together is definitely sweet but I think Cedric it's not a very parental guy and Roland would find their bond a bit weird since he's Sofia's father now. While Roland takes care of Sofia, Cedric gives her sweets and takes her to crazy places with him (like the sorcerers convention). He's defo the cool uncle for her even though everyone sees him as this weird guy
I don't see the appeal in cedlock but honestly I don't mind seeing stuff about them, it's a funny dynamic (please can someone explain them to me? I'm not joking)
which is funny because I'm so in love with Lorelei, Cedric and Roland's love triangle even though it's 100% fanon and they never appear together in the show at all
I don't shipp any of the children in stf, even though I get why some shipps are famous like Sofia x Hugo or Amber x Desmond, I just can't get used to the idea somehow, I can't see the chemistry, better saying. But it's nice!!! I also see it as a fun dynamic
I can't hate Wormwood, even after betraying Cedric he can't make me mad
The same applies to Cordelia. I think her character is a bit shallow :( we should have seen more of her and her personality through other episodes. I think that us as a fandom need to reunite to give her the development she deserved.
Now please don't kill me but I don't think Ruby and Jade are annoying, they're just immature. I think this can compare to Amber being mean in the start of the show, they're bad in their own ways. The way she treated them poorly since the beginning is just as bad as Ruby and Jade misbehaving!!
I don't like 70% of the two last seasons. Even the episodes where Cedric is in are just weird to watch, they don't pass the Sofia The First vibes at all :( they're nice but they can't even compare to Once Upon A Princess and season 1.
I personally don't like the protectors characters. I tried to, and I honestly don't mind a lot about their presence in the fandom (it's not like those shipps and stuff you roll your eyes whenever you see them, like I do with c*dfia) but I just don't like their presence in the show. Those episodes where Sofia was a protector trainee don't get much of my attention and Chrysta gets on my nerves just as much as Ruby and Jade do to almost half of the fandom. Honestly to finish STF those episodes were a sacrifice to watch. I couldn't pay attention to them and I had to rewatch them more than once. Their character designs also don't look like Sofia The First characters. They're not meant to be in this show.
I hate that Sofia got torn between that new unicorn character and OUR BELOVED Minimus. GIRL, MINIMUS IS A KING. WDYM you can't choose between him and an unicorn you just met. Just by the fact that her long time friend was feeling bad vibes coming from someone she just met is just a good reason to stop and think a bit. And the worst part was that Skye was fully against Minimus and was battling with him to get Sofia's attention. Like don't piss me off you just met her and Minimus watched her grow up. That episode was torture. And in the end Sofia was all "I don't know which one to choose 🥺 I'll just choose both" EXCUSE ME?!?? YOU JUST GOT TORN BETWEEN THIS NEW CHARACTER AND F ING MINIMUS
The merch group also started to make Sofia + Skye merch with him as her new horse friend and stopped making Sofia + Minimus stuff. The whole lesson of the episode was about keeping them both as her friends and you guys just replaced him. That shit pisses me off
I understand that the last seasons are so different from the first ones because the writer, Craig Gerber, had to focus on Elena of Avalor. But honestly, if I could decide between having Elena of Avalor and letting STF last seasons poorly done, or not having EOA at all but having STF as it was always meant to be........ I would have choosen the second option 😶
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oscconfessions · 7 months ago
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Tbh I really want to do a rewrite of Object Terror. I used to be a fan of it through like 2019-2021. I'm not a fan anymore because I realized just how bad the writing is. I feel like it could have potential if it wasn't so edgy and it actually fleshed out the characters.
Like wdym this new co-host, S'mores, is a demon? Wdym he's collecting souls for mf Satan himself to “prove his worth?” Why is he targeting these random ass contestants of an object show? Why not just go out and collect random stranger's souls off the streets? WHY ARE THERE DEMONS IN YOUR OBJECT SHOW?? And furthermore why is the elimination area hell itself? Why? How? Does this mean when the characters are eliminated via falling spikes they ACTUALLY die? That can't be because one of them, El Nudelo Spider, comes back. Unless S'mores somehow brought him back because they became friends in hell? Why? Does Satan know about that? Does S'mores have to get a pardon? Will he get in trouble if Satan finds out he brought a soul onto earth? There's just so much shit happening for no reason. It's unnecessary.
Don't even get me started on the characters. Literally half of them can be removed because they add NOTHING to the show. Plus they have like zero personality. We don't know a single thing about Skittle besides that she's nice and silly. Dude half your cast is nice and silly. Also this may be nitpicky but why is it such a sausage fest on the show? Out of 25 characters 19 of them are dudes. I'm not saying it has to be 50/50 with the gender but it's really noticeable here how unbalanced it is.
There's no reason for the show to have gore, either. The creator actually responded to this complaint with that the whole show takes place in another world and that the sentient objects aren't objects. Just ugly little creatures. Okay cool concept but 1. You don't have to have so much gore it makes the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise shudder, and 2. What?? If that's the case why does Beer shatter like a beer bottle should? Why does Magazine rip and tear like a paper? Why is it when Coffee Cup quite literally explodes, it's coffee? If they're ugly creatures shouldn't they just be flesh and stuff? Why does it change between objects dying like objects and them dying in the most gruesome ways?
The writing is absolute garbage too. It started off as a comedy but slowly turned into an edgy bloodbath with some comedy in it. Good lord, the comedy. Half of it is just screaming, and the other half is outdated memes. I mean it had the fucking mlg air horn in the first episode. It also had Beer and Trowel in episode 5 making out for literally seven seconds before it cuts to the Carpet and Stapler finding out and being shocked which like. Was that an attempt at comedy? I didn't find it funny at all I was hella uncomfortable when I first watched it (and now that I had to rewatch it again to see how long that was.) First off, why? That was completely unnecessary and the make out happens with no build up. Second what the fuck are Beer and Trowel? They're written as friends but then have a random make out session for no fucking reason. Shit I'm with Carpet and Stapler I was shocked too.
This was supposed to be a confession on how I'd write Object Terror but it turned into me complaining about it. Uh. Anyways What I'd do is remove some of the characters (ie Honey, Fart, Mint), give the rest personality and interests, get rid of the gore and maybe the demon shit. I'm tired this show makes my brain rot whenever I try to understand it. The demon and hell shit is what's bugging me.
I'm sorry for this long ass rant lmao I bet the people who didn't watch Object Terror probably think I'm insane
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skeelly · 6 months ago
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anyways so basically I'm like in the second half of s6, I'm terrified of coming to the part of George's death (I'm so mad at everyone who spoiled it for me and my bsf who keeps sending me tiktoks abt it)
anyways I've alr cried abt it but I'll definitely cry abt it again
alsooo was I the only one who didn't know that before young sheldon came, there was big bang theory (I saw adult sheldon there so I'll watch it after I finish young sheldon)
OHHH and on sep 1st I think, the first episode of Georgie and Mandy's first wedding will air, but like wdym first marriage?? Like???
Anyways sk it's like a whole cycle, OHH and I saw this tweet from Netflix or wtv ig saying that s7 of young sheldon was to come out in Feb 2024 but there's no s7 on Netflix. And yet I've seen ppl talking abt s7 ep14 on tiktok and all so I checked an illegal movie website and I found s7 there😭😭😭
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH GEORGES DEATH, I mean I alr had a hunch abt it from ljke s2 but wtv. I can't decide if it'd be worse to be left on a cliffhanger of his death in s6 or deal with a whole season without him
my apologies if i miss anything, bare with me 😔😔
MY BROTHERS TOLD ME ABT IT AND IM PISSED NGL like idk what to do. and that's so real of you.
GIRL YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT?? (i didn't either)
HOLD UP. WHAT??? i did not know of the existence of S7 helllllooo??? i might look it up later
OKAY SO IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO, IM JUST GONNA PRETEND HES ON AN IMPORTANT TRIP AWAY IDK 😭😭
I FEEL LIKE THEYLL LEAVE US ON A CLIFF HANGER.
ALSO OMG FIRST WEDDING?? DO THEY GET DIVORCED THEN REMARRY WTF
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total-drama-atlas · 1 year ago
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Episode seven timeeee
I’m still mad MK got booted so early
Okay yeah I like the new Chris. The voice fits. Is it the iconic original? No, but it’s really good.
The intro still sucks tho
Zee spitting his soda all over chase >>>
Priya is such a character I love her
Wayne and Raj are so sweet I love them I would die for them
This moment would be a lot more enjoyable if it quit BUFFERING SO MUCH
“The shark??? Did he make out with the shark too?? No, he just doesn’t want to tell me about the kiss… DOES HE THINK I WONT SUPPORT HIM??? I GOTTA SHOW HIM HOW SUPPORTIVE I AM WITHOUT BEING WEIRD ABOUT IT!!” wayne my beloved
the merger in ep7???? that’s just wild, that makes the accomplishment of making it to the merge… less of an accomplishment.
“So only ONE of you can win immunity.” “That’s fine. There’s only one of me 💅”
I think I’m going to like Julia as the new Heather.
“Like you, Ripper, this challenge is very simple.” “AWESOME” he’s so dumb but not in the endearing way Wayne and raj are idiots.
okay maybe ripper does have some comedic potential
WHAT WAS THAT CLOSEUP ON THE BIRDS LEGS 💀
when I was a kid I told my mom I wanted a pet bird and she told me about a guy in Florida who had a pet cassowary that attacked him and killed him and it was really gross and gory. Idk if it’s true but that did not stifle my desire for weird pets
i feel bad for zee that he has the hiccups this ep :( he doesn’t deserve that
“Just because no one’s ever called me smart doesn’t mean I am.”
Julia i love you Julia i love you Julia i love you Julia i love you Julia i love you Julia i love you Julia i love you Julia i love you Julia I lo
I love bowie guys
“Hey not so bright guy that no one wants” perfect description of chase
WHAT WAS THAT GROWL THIJG CHASE DID WTF
Wayne is so sweet you guys 🥺🥺
“You’re my only equal” “jk he’s like three levels below me”
RAJ BLUSHING IS SO CUTE OMGGGG
Emma just walking away to give Bowie and Raj alone time was so real of her
“sorry if I made you uncomfortable or anything-“ “stop, i really liked kissing your face” why did he phrase it like that and why was it so funny
THEIR SECOND KISS GDHSJAJAJA THEYRE SO CUTE
Julia’s scheming is so funny because Chase is so dumb that he actually thinks calling out Emma’s supposed backne is going to get her back
I LOVE HOW EXCITED EMMA IS FOR BOWIE AND RAJ
i feel like Emma and Wayne could bond over it too. Besties perhaps
I love her white girl dancing I gotta go find that poll
i couldn’t find it if someone finds it please rb this w the link tahnksss
Emma reminiscing about her and chase… i don’t like it. Girl run!!
Emma and chase were on different teams?? Wdym she always votes for him? She hasn’t had a chance to? It’s just- you’d really think you’d work harder to get it right
td characters with a normal amount of fingers is weird bro
Rajie runnnn
Millie hun she said to BOLT
MILLIE YOU DO NOT DESERVE PRIYA, FIRST YOU LIE ABOUT VOTING WITH HER, THEN ISE HER TO STAY IN, THEN LET HER SAVE YOUR LITERAL LIFE ONLY TO BASICALLY SAY YOU WOULDNT DO THE SAME FOR HER
that took an interesting turn WHY IS ZEE RIZZING UP A BIRD AND WHY IS IT WORKING
okay hold on the baby bird is so cute 🥺
PRIYA DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER
you know i bet the hockey bros would be somewhat more compelling if I knew anything about hockey
WAYNE AND RAJ ARE SO WHOLESOME I LOVE THEM THEYRE SO BABYGIRL
Zee is so funny “I’m not ready for a family :/”
chase i hate you i hate you I ha
bro you had better not give her the half you dropped. you had better not try to give her that i swe
jerkface
Emma why did you kiss him he’s so crusty musty dusty
Bowie only showing concern for Raj when both Raj and Wayne are really messed up
i hope Wayne and Raj stay in the game I love them sm
I also like how this season Chef actually is the one explaining each character’s possible reasons for getting eliminated. Chris and Chef share the work a lot better now and tahts good.
The way everyone goes “WHAT” and did the head turn- that was perfect
NOOOOOOOOPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIOOOOOOOO
NOT THE HOCKEY BROS
NOT WAYNER AND RAJIE
NOOOO
IM SO UPSET
“My dad used to drop me and my three brothers all the time! And two of us are fine!” honey I don’t think you’re one of those two…
I wish they’d bring the ship back :(
I liked the ep until chemma and then wayner and rajie left :( i loved them sm
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yuukei-yikes · 2 years ago
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A lot of people seem to not like the manga as a starting point but its what hooked me. I saw will stetsons lost time memory and I was like "what???" "thats it???" and found the rest with my brother at like 2am. the mangas slow fun pace that is instantly cut off by horror is fun, the flashbacks are great characterization.... the only part i didn't like was the dissonance between Harutaka in mangaroute1 and mangaroute2.
it was a bit confusing. anyway do you prefer the anime or manga's version of takane as she seems to be your favorite character. (for me its gotta be the manga, the anime just did not do it)
the manga is what hooked me too! back in january 2014, there was tiny vinnie binging all the songs and what was available of the manga at the time in just one day...
i think the reason ppl dont recommend the manga as a starting point is the second manga route. personally, i recommend the manga as a starting point but only until volume 4 after the route we start with is over. and then i'd come back to second manga route when im done with everything else!! my kagepro recommendation is 1. songs 2. manga until everyone dies lol 3. novels 4. finish the manga 5. anime.
the thing with the manga is that it doesnt rly go into what the normal route is for very long. we keep saying second manga route but its like, idk MOST of the manga is that route.
i do like the manga for the same reasons as u, but sometimes im a little eh bc of mahiro sato's obvious knkd shipping and stuff lol. and i did write a whole bigass answer abt why i hate what happens to takane's character in haruka's arc in the second route. otherwise i dont mind the difference all that much. and i love her as ene in the rest of it. its just a few things that drive me crazy ok ill just link the post lol sorry i just have. um. strong feelings.
OK UR ACTUAL QUESTION hmmmmm well yea i'd say the manga or novels. i get what u say abt the anime but truly the anime did not do it for any of them LOLL there was barely any time for anything let alone good characterisation. like come on there's 11 main characters and 12 twenty four minute long episodes. wdym u dont like anime takane she was there for like (checks) 40 or 50 min in total?
takane is incredibly sidelined in the anime much like everyone else cuz. lol. AGAIN. kagepro is not somehting u can fit in a 12 ep long anime. yuukei yesterday in the manga and novels goes a lot more in depth about takanes personality and relationship to haruka. not to mention they put kano's little Disguising Myself As Someone Dear To You That You Have Regrets About on her instead of shintaro which was crazy. to me that did so much damage to kano's character. i wouldnt call myself a kano expert bc he's an insanely complicated character to tackle LMAO but... i dont know. i just dont think he would do that to ene. shintaro is one thing, we all know kano's little thing abt shintaro, but ene?? its like, he does that to her BECAUSE of the thing with shintaro. kano's pissed and frustrated at everyone moving on while he's stuck behind and ESPECIALLY at shintaro and takes it out on ene for being the main reason why shintaro is moving on. its a little unfair. i dont think kano would be THAT disconnected to do that. not to mention when he pulls that trick on shintaro he isnt half as harsh as he is on ene!! he just kinda spooks him (tho ofc thats enough to send shintaro spiraling LOL) while to ene he's like YOURE THE WORST FUCK YOU and then the way ene kinda laughs it off after also pisses me off LOL yeah kano could do this im not saying its COMPLETELY ooc but he would be in an incredibly despaired rock bottom moment and he'd be super apologetic about it later. post str kano and takane friendship *holds head*
and if you read the novels and kano's feelings and thoughts over takane it makes me sad that's what they chose to do in the anime bc in the novels kano regards takane as someone he's jealous of bc of how confident she is and "her ability to doubt people" and how he thinks they're similar ppl. like we rly dont give enough credit that TAKANE is the first person kano ever opens up to in his life. he even says the conversation they have might as well be the first conversation he's ever had with anyone, and they both head out to the hideout being the ones who have to admit something to the people dear to them (kano the whole clearing eyes thing to kido, takane the ene thing to shintaro) and its not for no reason!!! kano sees something in takane. he knows theyre similar, but at the same time he is jealous. that together sounds a little like he wishes he could be more like her. OUGH. and how they just chose to translate that whole thing into kano being awful to ene and berating her for trying to save shintaro is soooo fucked up. it bothers me so much. #notmykano
WHY AM I TALKING ABT KANO THIS IS ABOUT TAKANE. OK i was driving my point abt how the anime isnt a good judging point to any of the characters LMAO and i guess i wouldnt be able to tell u which "version" of takane i like best, or anyone for that matter. to me all medias are the same version of the same character. im in too deep all of them. the takane that almost kills kenjirou for outing her as lightning dancer ene is the same takane who admits it by herself. idk. guess its a good question but i dont have a good answer. thats also why i hate second manga route takane bc she does shit i dont think she'd do and it pisses me off LOL
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I had a dream last night. That. Me and some other people were maybe ghost hunters ? I dont fully remember. And there was a big mansion house that we had to investigate bc the previous ghost hunters whod went inside hadnt been seen in weeks, and nobody even saw them leave. So like, me and my team of Vague Dream People That Were An Amalgamation Of People From Irl And People From Fiction went in and yknow it was a normal fuckin ghost house thing there were some spooks n scares but all in all just normal rlly. And then we found the group from before us and were like what the hell man how r u guys alive and they were like dudr tf wdym and we were like dudes its been weeks u dont have that kinda food ans they were like errr ur like mixing us up w someone else weve only been here an hour or 2 so then we were like. Ok what. And then left the house w that group who fucked off to go do their own thing bc my brain couldnt handle keeping track of a group over 4 people. But like when we left some ppl were like holy fuck ur alive. And we were like. Yea. Its only been like. 20 or 30 minutes. And they were like nah man its been days. And then i was like. Man r u serious that sucks ive wasted days of july what the fuck i love summer i dont wanna waste it man what the hell and like yeah i kinda ignored how. This house was like Magic Ooooo Time Moves Differently Inside bc i was too upset id gone from the 17th to the 20th. And then i was like suddenly in my grandmas attic and lookin out the window and it was like. It was like the attic wad attached to the rest of the scenes like a sorta. Set almost yknow. So like i chilled in my grandmas attic and then i knew i had to go to school? So i just left her attic through the fourth wall and went to the set of the big mansion and went in there for like 5 minutes and came out and id skipped school but accidentallt skipped too far and it was like late night. But ye i figured this house could b used 2 my advantage but probably also could fuck some things up. Bc i hadnt figured out the exact like time exchange that it was. Bc my brain hadnt come up w it solidly yet so like a couple hours meant a couple weeks and half an hour meant a couple days and 5 minutes meant like 12 hours but also sometimes a full day but also sometimes less. But yea idk i played around w that thing until is skipped like a week and then realised id missed my friends birthday which was apparently the day before the one i was at. So i Left the Set and walked home and went to my primary school bc apparently all my friends were there even tho we all went 2 different primary schools and i found my friend id missed the birthday of and i gave her a cat that materialized out of thin air and then turns out all my friends had their cats with them so we like. Pet a lot of cats outside this primary school. And then it was like. I was on the fuckin set of jrweek yknow the second one they had w the like boat thing. And i wasnjust fucking lookin at them but apparently they were recorsing like a 3 hour long episodr and it was episode like 140 or smth. But they were just recreating what id done the rest of the dream and i tried to ask them what the fuck was going on n why was i there but it was like i eas fuckin invisible or some shit n they just ignored me. And then they kept mentioning genloss like ober and iver and over and insinuating that charlie was the only one of them that WASNT in genloss and i was like. Erm. Okay. What. And they only THEN seemed to notice me and were like dude what the fuck ur being so cringe right now like literally stop it go watch our patreon nerd snd i was like. Dudes i already am subbed 2 ur patreon. And they were like. But u havent finished pd yet u fucking pussy and i was like ok this is just uncalled 4 and then i woke up to big bin truck outside bc id left my windoe open and it was loud as FUCK anyways ir was a weird dream and one of the only times over the past few days ive felt neutral abt my dream in comparison to irl. Anyways. Goodbye
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snallavanta · 8 months ago
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part 2 of my answers to the seventeen asks!
36. what’s your favourite hairstyle of your bias?
honestly, anything that's vernon's natural hair colour/ dark brown is my favourite
37. which is the best era for hair?
fml era was so good. jeonghan's wavy mid length that's in a half up-half down style. woozi's wavy hair & bangs combo. idk they all looked superb hair-wise in that era
38. what’s your favourite tour era?
be the sun
39. what’s your favourite lyric?
how am i supposed to just pick ONE?
ash - metamorphosis born in fire, then i fly away
god of music - we can't communicate with words but with music, we can be best friends
don quixote - my hands up, i keep 'em high. the thing i fear is me within myself
fml - don't wanna be an embarrassment for the me i knew yesterday
40. what’s your favourite fan chant?
honestly they all have great vibes, but i love it when they make us say all 13 of their full names 😍 what a tongue twister
41. what’s your favourite unreleased song?
how was this 9 years ago...
42. what’s your comfort song?
i can't just pick one so it's super, shadow, sos
43. what’s a song you can’t listen to without having a breakdown?
44. what’s your favourite member symbol/ mascot?
🍒🍊🦦
they are such cute symbols & somehow describes these members perfectly?
45. what’s your favourite going seventeen episode?
i feel like i haven't watched enough (or any?) gose episode to give this a proper answer 😵‍💫 so no, i don't have a favourite
46. what’s your favourite dance choreography?
i don’t understand but i luv u. it changed the trajectory of my life. the removing of the tie, the folding of the sleeves, the gracefulness of the movements. i have never been the same since.
cheers is a close second though
47. what’s your favourite solo song?
black eye by vernon or wait by dino (i am simply incapable of choosing)
48. what’s your favourite cover?
youtube
a crime that this is not on spotify >:(
49. what’s your favourite song from the performance team?
50. what’s your favourite song from the vocal team?
51. what’s your favourite song from the hiphop team?
52. a member from the performance team you feel is underrated
jun
53. a member from the vocal team you feel is underrated
woozi
54. a member from the hiphop team you feel is underrated
wonwoo
55. if you were a part of seventeen, which sub-unit do you want to be a part of & why?
hiphop!!! i know they're also my favourite sub-unit but they look so fun to be with.
also performance unit highkey scares me. wdym i'm stuck with captain hoshi, anti-delulu minghao, jun and dino who takes no shit. you would not catch me in a room with just the four of them; i will wait outside, thank you.
56. a member you want to be best friends with
dk
57. a member you feel should release more solo music
vernon. i am obsessed with the way he enunciates his words
58. a member you would easily get along with
seungkwan
59. what’s your favourite collab?
also want to mention their song with new kids on the block, dk's vocals in that is insane
60. what’s a song you wish to hear live?
61. what’s your favourite seventeen interview?
idk i don't feel like i've watched any that really left an impact on me? no interview is really at the top of my head rn to give you an answer
62. what language do you prefer svt songs in?
korean + english or 100% korean. i love their 100% english songs too but the way the phrases are broken up always feels so awkward to me 😭
63. who do you think would give the best hugs?
mingyu
64. who do you think would smell the best?
joshua
65. who has the most contagious laugh?
vernon. his goose-like laughter is everything
66. who’s the funniest member?
minghao. i think most of them are hilarious when the situation calls for it though
67. have you read any books recommended by any member(s)?
yes! i read me before you (wonwoo rec) and i was reading i want to die but i want to eat tteokbokki (s.coups rec) but stopped because it was kinda boring
68. what’s your favourite thing about seventeen?
how much they care for each other & how gentle they are with one another
69. share the svt photos that bring you comfort
everyday i find a new photo of them so any pics where they're radiating with happiness makes me happy :")
70. share an svt video that brings you comfort
the whole nana tour series. it feels like a warm hug on a rainy day
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castle-dominion · 1 year ago
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c3x17 countdown
Edit: haha I found it! I couldn't find my liveblog while clipping last time but this time I went into my archives for the second half of the episode!
Ok so before the episode starts, I need to talk. I’ve been in my fair share of walk-ins, I’ve read a few stories where people get stuck in freezers, what u need to do is grab a screwdriver or smth & break the cooling mechanism.
Rodeo clown, red herring. We've got to find jamal, they say, & the dramatic irony is we know jamal is here in the freezer. Dead.
Why are they covering him? For their own psychological wellbeing? Castle, do up your coat all the way. Y'all be sure to dance sometimes. Don't waste all your energy tho. Now trucks can probably get to -20f or -25c but more likely are set at 0f or -18c like most freezers. Like girl, it is definitely well below freezing. Girl lay on your back & kick with your feet, don't dislocate your shoulder. Plus, you definitely have more than a few hours. Like you would probably get frostbite within half an hour but it is also not a windy place. The real killers are wetness & ventilation. Even if the cooling mechanism is still going, if you kill the fan you would be fine. Just don't sweat too much. Move enough to keep your body temp up, don't move so much that you would sweat. Ok that is bad counting. Count better.
Oh no they r home. lmao circus accidents martha what Grinch changing scene. Yes ew.
Ricochet? Ok I thought y'all shot thru the tin box earlier. Now here: SHOOT THE DANG COOLING MECHANISMS OR BUST EM WITH THE BUTT OF YOUR GUN. Keep moving babes. At least beckett can cover her ears.
Interesting interactions here. You sound like fallon & maybe castle was right. Really really interesting characterization. Is it alexis/martha? Ok but what are their faces, they are just staring at each other & looking more & more intensely
Yeah. I had a radiation interest at some point. Super scary. YOU WEREN'T LOOKING FOR THE TARGET ALREADY??? KR, with his face the way it is: Sir, can I speak with you alone? *glances awkwardly at fallon* But ofc comes with esposito lol Lmao my first thought when they mentioned their history was not what I mentioned last episode (they did the off-grid police work recently) but actually kissing. They haven't kissed yet. Ryan & esposito are so cute & I'm so glad that alexis called even after trying to go to bed. But then again, she called ryan's cell. That's... idk what that is.
Ok put your exposed skin BACK UNDER YOUR EFFING JACKETS & SHARE YOUR CLOTHES I mean at least you're cuddling BUT BREAK THE DANG FREEZING MECHANISM & MOVE & KEEP YOUR BODY TEMP UP. The scariest part for me is the fog at the bottom. THE FIRST ALWAYS Girl it hasn't even been that long & this place shouldn't be able to get that cold y'all are fine, stop being babies. I thought new yorkers complained about the weather! Come up to canada, meet my inuit friends!
The intro is blue <3
Castle's eyes are so good in this lighting. tbh I think the frost on his cheeks is weird. Eyelashes & eyebrows yes. Cheeks? not so sure. Are those our guys or are they the killers? Wait, man's holding a gun
Yucky sound! Bro they should be fine it wasn't that bad. Motorcycleboy! Also while he has at least had one hour of sleep he still needs to go to bed. Same to ryan & esposito & well,, everyone. Alexis called <3 (oh btw what happened to karpowski? I saw her in s2 but never in s3.) K but wdym "until josh called"? We figured you were with beckett until josh called. Then we went back to thinking you were with beckett. edit: they figured he was WITH beckett ;) bc she was struggling with Josh but then josh called & they remembered that she was with josh & she is actually doing well with josh bc he came home for her; & that's why rick & josh exchange those looks. Then they figured he was with beckett as in doing smth incredibly stupid against orders. Oh & costume update: Ryan has another coat. Again, it is nice, but it is also chill, & it is the third jacket I've seen him wear this day! & Esposito has that nice coat I've seen him in before, the one with the shoulder buckles. What patrol units were available bro??? RC: I'm glad my stupidity is predictable Their little handshake <3 RC: You pulled us out of there? (KR nods) RC, probably not thinking about how he was found snugled up with beckett: thanks Beckett was standing there watching him. Apparently castle was more tired than her (even tho she should have frozen more than him) so she was up in a blankett watching him while he was still waking up. Even tho she fell asleep first. Maybe she woke up first because she fell asleep first. Then again, she wasn't standing there in the first shot when he was sitting up. Also just realized, esposito & ryan probably had this exact convo with beckett. That's the kind of deleted scene I want to see.
Oh no it is not even white anymore. So 13 hours at the start, it is now ten hours. They were in the freezer for maybe 2 hours if they've been out for an hour like josh said. Imagine being ryan & esposito, you help each other drag one person out of the freezer, then you drag the second. Then you go back in for that third person under the tarp (which caskett should have been using as a blanket) & whoops it's a dead body.
I'm also assuming they meant 4pm not 4am. Meaning dang it's 6am & nobody has slept! Also meaning alexis called at like 1am or smth. So they found the bomb at 3am actually & alexis might have evenn called that late. Crazy that she would just call ryan (on his cell too) to ask about her dad.
gtg we're watching s4 in my family watch now bai ily
Ok hai I'm back!
KB *politely requests that her & castle be reinstated* MF: Well that's not up to me. It'd be up to your doctor, wouldn't it? Which is so good & so true KB walks off MF: Yk it's funny, when I first met you two I thought you were together. RC: Oh. No, just friends. I watched When Harry Met Sally the day before watching this the first time. *sighs with my hand on my cheek* MF: Get cleaned up. We have a long day ahead of us (which is weird bc castle hasn't been cleared by his doc yet.) Also have they called alexis yet?
Wow it is bright & sunrisey! MR: You look like death warmed over XD <3 Fair has nothing to do with it Rick you might have been able to say "I sent you with grams to that spiritual retreat for a reason. I want you two to go to the hamptons & stay there for the weekend. No questions. Don't try to figure out why. Just listen." or "I just need you two out of the house for a bit"
Yay they've changed. But have they slept? IDK what time it is now. Living this every day is probably why he is the way he is. This is not the time for a special hell reference mom. Except for me. So mum went out with her friends yesterday & Tammy went out to a movie with her son. She had been watching movies at home so much, covid & all, that she would make these huge gasps whenever smth big happened. Her son was sooo embarassed. Mum looked at me & said she could never take me out to a movie. Apparently we took 1.5x the 44min episode to watch it. Ofc lil bro went upstairs to get water & another time to get food but a lot of it was me pausing it to talk (bc it's rude to talk during the movie, well u can talk as long as there is no dialogue). So yeah special hell for those tho talk at the theater.
I wish I could give an esposito outfit update bc he looks cool af but he is backlit. This reminds me of @codex-dominion my other blog. When Tavi (as rufus scippio) was made captain, he had to work a lot. One time he was super overworked & wanted to keep working but his singularé said "no, you need a sleep & a shave" & tavi/scippio said "nah bro I need to do so much I don't have time for that" & his singularé went "no. You never saw the previous captain with stubble. You need to shave & take a crowforsaken nap." Still, I like his gloves! Ah yes, the military. What did I say? Six tours is a lot. Bruh it's the effing military what do you expect?? Why would they choose kevin mcann? Identity theft in the military is surprisingly not uncommon.
You haven't done facial recognition yet? Well ig not bc you thought you knew him MF: I thought this guy was a crime novelist RC: I.. I am MF: Well then you should know *proceeds to explain identity theft lol* KB & JE: :] :]
Gal has a nice mural Pointing with a cig lol VA? They were voice actors together? Or as in veteran affairs or smth? (welcome to indian affairs, which indian would you like to have an affair with?) Support our troops: Bring Them Home. I'm FTM. Oh a trans man? Happy pride. Nonono, I'm nonbinary. I meant Fuck The Military. my post : ) Hey a cell number is good!
This man is a child I love tech geeks from csu or wherever. Old timey phones <3 I remember when canadian troops left afghanistan. I remember it because it was a thing in school. & I remember finally finally it ended in 2021. Let's roll
Casually turns around B'y don't look back. If you must, use a mirror.
Castle is the only sane one here. Yeah like esposito you need a wakeup call. Interesting how he takes beckett in there, not captain montgomery. Tbh I respect his skills. He's cool. Sitting there, quiet, keeping his mouth shut. I can respect that. I might hate it or find it annoying but on a level of skill not ideology it's really cool. Hm, that might be why lockwood & his ones chose to drown ryan instead. If they knew abt esposito & why they couldn't break him. (the cops already know everything about me & your mom) No he won't fallon. The way he talks. It's so true, so good, so calm & thoughtful & angry. Good episode. Becks, idk if holding YOUR gun at him is the best idea. Ok so you're holding him at gunpoint but you haven't even cocked it? I'm assuming it's semi-automatic, you shouldn't cock twice. This military boy would have noticed. Btw the music is slamming. Doesn't even turn on the safety? It took them that long to break down the door or did they only come in after he put it away?
At least fallon is explaining himself. He feels. He knows it will go over better if he does this. But what opening was there my dude? (note: he said he can't break him in three hours. 3h. So what, he had him for 3 hours already or it's 13.00/1pm & he has three hours left?) He is calm & talking to her in his respectful quiet voice even tho she said that to him. Fallon is actually gaining my respect for that. RC: does that guy take jackhole lessons or was he born that way? (heh) KR, who has also changed & hopefully taken a nap, now getting coffee too: Neither. I asked my buddy at DHS abt him. (Cool so we know ryan has a contact at dhs now.) Turns out his wife was killed in 9/11. She rode the second tower down. They were on the phone together when it happened. Man should have started an emo band then, not become this jackhole fellow.
Oh dang fallon's surveillance guy is down! Make ur phone call! Now I have Holy Gail (Hunters & Collecters, Cut) stuck in my head
Ok & now they say less than 2 hours left. That's the next number. It must be 14.00/2pm now or smth. So has it been one hour since the earlier thing or...? I'm still stuck on whether any of them slept. They all seem to have changed (tavi) & they are all drinking coffee, & I'm sure if they didn't go home & sleep that someone took a nap in the morgue or on the couch in the captain's office or in the break room or even on mats up in the gym. A powernap is important if you can't sleep. It at least resets your brain a little bit so you don't feel like you're dreaming. I remember when I was sick one day I either couldn't sleep or chose not to sleep bc it was painful & I knew I wouldn't be able to sleep for hours. I went thru my facebook page back until nov 2020 (it's may 2023 now) to find the day I was talking about. I was awake for 30 hours. "I fell asleep for maybe an hour but I feel like it's tomorrow morning (Thursday) or tomorrow morning but it's actually Wednesday morning which is today. But I also feel like it's 8pm and I have my violin lesson. It doesn't help that the book I'm reading has huge cases of derealization/depersonalization/confusion/etc/etc and I read it righ before falling asleep this afternoon and after I had a miniature bowl of cereal when I woke up. Who am I? What day is it? Did I hallucinate my brother walking around this morning, or was it a legitimate shadow? Have I already taken my meds today? I'm half convinced I'm still dreaming buds" wow yeah that's what it was like. That's probably how they would feel if they haven't slept.
Esposito is wearing that? I didn't realize that when I saw him earlier. Oh no, an explosives ordnance disposal? CRAWL UP THEIR WHERES WITH MICROSCOPES? You're right, they are not brainwashed kids on a student visa, they are brainwashed adults with training. Oh... the syrian consolate guy... Fallon my man! Woah he gained beckett's respect.
Bud that's such a lie. You do what we ask & everybody lives? That's literally the biggest lie bc you are trying to kill everyone!
Fallon, the guy came over for ya, shake his hand & thank him for coming! Should we be giving away our hand like this...? Mike, let the guy talk. Man just didn't do anything when he saw nazihah get abducted?? What he meant by that appointment outside the city was he doesn't believe you can succeed.
Wow they actually shot the guy. Ooh music. So dramatic bestie. our people aren't wearing vests?
If he couldn't get fake-kevin-mcann to talk then how did he get these guys to talk? Oh he lied.
Is that beckett's personal vehicle or? (ew ghost cars)
Work wife. Why would the car turn in front of them? Wouldn't they be taking the same route? Also, wouldn't they already have the sirens on? Make like a stag. (When you're driving, never let a deer that is chasing you get ahead bc as soon as it pulls ahead, it turns, not realizing it still needs to be going forward so as not to get hit. Never let a stag in front of you.) Make like a stag, get right in front of the car. Lol castle getting his face smashed against the window. Ugh finally they did it
Update: I clipped the work wife arguing about driving moment on my new chromebook, the quality might not be any better but at least now it will be easier to tag & upload to tumblr lol
YEAH YOU KNEW THE BOMB WAS THERE, unless it wasn't in which case good on castle for checking BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY RADIOED (one lincoln forty again!) & it is 15.58/3.58pm now. (unless the bomb was set to go off around 4pm not exactly 4pm.) It would take two minutes for them to park the helicopter & run in to the bomb. Remember those times both in sherlock & murdoch mysteries where they just stopped the timers? Yeah. Oh & that other time murdoch had to defuse a bomb bc pendrick was claustrophobic. (those two needed to get it on.)
Mk so continuity with timers like this can be hard. I can't tell but I think the show did a good job with this. At least she is calling fallon. My dude. You are not going to get there in time (unless he doesn't know that they only have 1m left bc beckett didn't communicate with him) so pull over the car. What advice do you have fallon? Anything? Tell them to at least look for a "stop/start" button in the hopes that there is one? Wait is he actually the guy who did this is he still driving so he can get out of town bc he planted the bomb? Ooh! Why do the tank & stuff still have the radioactive stickers all over them? I feel like they'd peel em off or smth. (what if some traffic cop pulled her over bc she was driving erratically & then checked her trunk, that would be crazy & possibly a bit of a deus ex machina.) R u 2 finally going to confess ur love 3 seconds left it was probably made poorly or a decoy bomb so it is not going to go off bc the real bomb is somewhere else & they either find it & stop it OR they end up with a crater in new york; a crater that means people are going to be displaced, & without help they have no choice but to turn to crime, & then that escalates future episodes. Possibly even some mistaked DNA stuff, they catch someone & check their dna to what they have in the database but it doesn't match bc of radiation. I think a post apocalyptic crime show would be cool, or at least a post disaster crime show. Wait castle just pulled all the wires out.
Rick just pulled all the wires out. & all at once too. Wow. Well then. I want to laugh but this is so intense. (clipping this too) Right at zero huh. During my family watch All Of Us mimicked castle's triumphant finger point at the bomb. So valid bestie. I mean heck yeah, he had to do smth. Two choices, two endings, but three paths. A: let the bomb kill you. You die. B1: Take out the wires & you die. B2: Take out the wires & you live. You're going to die either way, so might as well take the chance of living. btw why isn't beckett's radiation detector going off?
(all laughing) KB: No you should have seen his face because he stopped, (stopped what?) he looked at me, grabbed all the wires & then he just yanked them! *immitates rick yanking the wires* (her voice is kind of intense) KR: . All of them?? RC: I figured one of them had to be the right one. RM: You know, the mayor wants to give you guys a medal. I didn't have the heart to tell him you had no clue what you were doing. ... JE: Captain's right. You two don't know how lucky you are. RC: *looks at becket* KB: *looking back, seemingly out of breath* RC: Actually, I do. (Do you? I think you do. Just stared death in the face & said "f it, I'm taking a chance!" Tho it is not a risk. You risk blowing up the bomb if you yank the wires but the bomb was going to go anyway so it was not a risk. It was a chance.) RM: Hmm. *as castle & beckett look at each other*
KB: Actually I was doing my job, idk wth he was doing. RC: Hey. But that's true Fallon. I'm so happy that he is explaining. It's his way of apologizing without explicitly apologizing. RC: A codeword. "run" (won't clip but funny) Y'all need some sleep, not beers in the pigstye. Bro I want you to confess your love but josh literally just saved ur asses. Hug her! Hug her goodbye bc you love each other, even if you cannot express that love in the romantic way you want to. Also, say goodbye to all the other ppl around!
Motorcycle boy -w-
Yeah that was good! I enjoyed it.
I can't believe it's already 11.30! I haven't even watched a full episode!
(Girl now imagine it's been weeks of trying to pull s3 clips)
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God you keep missing my point do you??? I know her lying is messed up I KNOW it's not an excuse jesus christ I already said million times she's gonna work this out. You keep contradicting ur own points with "I believe marinette is a good person" so empathizing with her circumstances is not a bad thing either then. Also she literally keeps apologizing my brother in christ. even for not reciprocating his feelings. and you can see it in episodes like penalteam and evolution and multiplication she wanted to correct her mistakes. There was not much ladynoir in second half of s5 so that's it. And like wdym lip service??? And yes I want her to put more efforts too and I can see she IS doing it unlike you. Adrien also said she is his emotional support and she's the only one who makes him feel free what is not clicking. You keep on saying she is hurting him unintentionally by not saying the truth like obviously she doesn't want it but she doesn't know she's gonna hurt him this the main point. You want her to stop doing it and i believe she would if she recognizes what harm it did. That's how conflicts and drama are created in the story???? This isn't My little pony lessons episode. I want to see these characters have such conflicts and still have love for each other it's only gonna make their dynamic and angst interesting. "Adrien will keep forgiving her" because deep down that's how he is towards her and you know it like stop self inserting onto him just because you want to punish marinette for lying again. In this situation he'll understand her circumstance. We're talking about his character core and it's understanding & compassion with his loved ones. He would know marinette didn't hurt him just for the sake of hurting. What is not clicking. Ok adrien would hold her accountable for lying and that will happen, are you happy now???? And then they resolve things and it's a happy ending. Why are you making this such a problem when this can be sorted out by talking it out. You told this 68798 times that "he puts her feelings first again and again and SO DOES marinette my brother in christ that's why she lied because she put his feelings first and not devastate him by giving the news at that time. Maybe the guilt would later eat her alive and she would tell him the truth who knows??? I know we lost hope in writers but let's just act this is how it's gonna happen. Adrien's main goal should be to destroy gabriel's influence/legacy. His character agency shouldn't revolve around marinette alone. Also relationships can be hectic. They have a long journey of working things out. This isn't an end but you're treating like it's the end of the world. That's a you problem.
"All we know is that season 5 ended with marinette doing what gabriel wanted and continuing his work of manipulating his son. and I think that is disgusting" gee I wonder WHY marinette is doing what gabriel wanted it's not like she is a child who got manipulated by an abusive grown man or his wish idk fuck the context!!! the outcome is this 14 year old girl is doing what a grown man wants her to do so she is to be 100% blame!!! Your way of thinking doesn't include empathizing with marinette's situation. You say she is stressed child but don't take it into the context, you're worrying about this outcome affecting adrien not marinette. Don't use "bad writing" card, you do not care about marinette just say that. Everyone knows this is messed up even the finale ending suggests it like THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT it is meant to evoke this feeling what is NOT CLICKING
I'm done for today if you still don't get my point then take it up to god
This is just an unstructured, incoherent vent post, but I've seen a few posts recently about how Adrien would definitely forgive Marinette for keeping secrets from him because he loves her, or that he would blame himself for not noticing what was going on and not her. And those aren't wrong, per se, but this is what I mean by the show taking away Adrien's agency. Ultimately his choices are allowed only as far as they do not inconvenience Marinette or anyone else the narrative cares about, like Felix or Nathalie. Which is why Adrien is not allowed to grow, he is not allowed to prioritize his own feelings and emotional needs. Any wrong done to him is resolved by him putting aside his own feelings to forgive the people who wronged him. And yes, he has been taught that his feelings don't matter by Gabriel and that he should bend over to the whims of everybody around him. And that kind of makes it worse, how the effect of Gabriel's abuse is used to convenience everyone around him. I think it's gross.
Just look at the Ladynoir conflict from Season 4. Adrien brings up his grievances with Ladybug's treatment of him a few times, but ultimately, he ends up putting it aside to focus on her emotional needs when she is at her lowest. Kuro Neko gave us the message that it wasn't that Ladybug was treating Chat Noir unfairly, but that Chat Noir should stop expecting to be treated with respect and should stop having emotional needs. And at the end of Strikeback, nothing is resolved, Ladybug hasn't apologized to him or resolved to do better by him, but he still shows up to her side to comfort her. No, she didn't apologize to him. She admitted her mistakes but did little to correct them even after the fact. That whole arc ended with Chat Noir being treated poorly over and over, and yet coming back to Ladybug's side because he's such a good partner and he loves her so much.
And Adrien, a character who has been forced his whole life to bend to the whims of others to please them at his expense is doing the same thing to Ladybug. Adrien exhibiting this behavior is 100% a trauma response. Ladybug is supposed to be his escape from his abusive homelife. And yet, the show writes him falling back into his trauma responses with her (Kuro Neko) and does jack shit to portray it as a bad thing. And the Season 4 finale is once again Adrien putting aside his feelings and showing up to support her. Adrien's emotions are not validated, they are tossed aside. Ladybug admitted her mistakes as she did several times through Season 4, but she still did little to correct them. That admission in Strikeback doesn't do much, because we never see her do anything to fix her mistakes after that. What happened was that Chat Noir saw her in distress and decided his feelings were unimportant because she needed support.
This is not healthy. Adrien should not be invalidating his own feelings so that he can offer comfort to others. He shouldn't forget and forgive so quickly without the other person doing anything to correct their behavior towards him. Once again, this is how Gabriel has taught him to behave, to stop "being so emotional" and to conform to his expectations. And Adrien continuously downplays his own issues for others' sake. And obviously, we would understand that he can heal from this, that he can learn to take care of his own emotional needs first.
And quite frankly, all the posts about how we shouldn't want Adrien and Marinette to break up, or how we shouldn't be so hard on Marinette, or that she is just a child in tough situation, or that she is doing it out of love and that Adrien would forgive her kinda make my point. Because let's be real. What Marinette did is a serious breach of trust. I do not understand how anyone could forgive something like that quickly. And I understand why she did it. I don't think she is a bad person or anything like that. But it's still an awful thing to do. And frankly, I don't see how Adrien could just... instantaneously forgive her without invalidating and downplaying his own pain and hurt. If he did, I would seriously question his self-worth. And while I don't think Adrien would never forgive Marinette or that he would stop loving her, frankly, I would like to see more acknowledgement of his feelings and his emotional needs both from the fandom and the show. I would like to see that his feelings matter, that he is allowed to be angry and that he is allowed to hold people accountable and call them out. I would like for him to not forgive some people. I would like for him to require distance and space from them. That would be development for Adrien, to let himself be emotional and not feel the need to put his own needs aside for others.
But for Adrien to prioritize himself, it would mean acknowledging the harmful things characters like Marinette have done to him. And that can't happen, because all the purpose Adrien serves is as a plot device to connect Marinette to Gabriel, and actually having her be held accountable by the narrative for her choices is a big no no. Growth for Adrien would mean that he lets himself be angry at Marinette for how she kept secrets from him, never apologized for it, and ultimately ended up keeping the greatest secret of all from him about his father and the fact that he is a Sentimonster. But as the writing to this point shows, Marinette isn't a safe space for him where he is allowed to be himself. She is someone who also elicits his trauma responses from him. He doesn't let himself be angry with her, he always puts himself last when it comes to her.
I am not saying Marinette is in any way comparable to Gabriel. She is nowhere as bad as him, she does not come close to that in any way. Marinette is a good person. But what she did in the finale, is explicitly something that Gabriel wanted her to do. Gabriel wanted to continue to dictate his son's emotions and perceptions, and Marinette helped him do it. That's not a healthy relationship. And looking at all the Marinette-Gabriel parallels in Season 5... it's not a good look at all. The show portrays Adrien as someone who has been denied autonomy his whole life, and as someone who is expected to cater to the desires of the people around him and be perfect for them while neglecting his emotional needs, and made his arc one of finding independence and his own identity and learning that his feelings and desires matter. But also, they only matter as far as they don't inconvenience Marinette. Adrien shouldn't downplay his feelings, but if doing so would help Marinette, then he should do it actually. And it's hard for me not to see it as Ladybug benefitting from his trauma from his abusive home. It sounds harsh, but that's how it feels.
And all the talk of how Adrien would never hate Marinette and that he would forgive her is... disappointing to me. Because I don't necessarily disagree, but it still is about prioritizing Marinette's feelings over Adrien's. What is focused on is not how Adrien might feel betrayed, but how Marinette might feel sad about Adrien feeling betrayed by her, and reinforces that Adrien is so good because he would not hold it against her. Even though he should, even though it means he would be downplaying his pain massively if he didn't blame her for that. If Adrien's character should develop, he should be allowed to realize that he has the right to get angry and that he doesn't have to downplay his emotions or feel like it's all his fault. He should be allowed to do that without people jumping to Marinette's defense and excusing her of blame.
Throughout the series, Adrien has been the person to help Ladybug through her problems, and the narrative has never allowed her to do the same for him. And I want to see focus on Adrien for a change. I want to see someone other than Plagg reassuring him and supporting him, especially his partner. I want to see the narrative be less about "oh, Adrien would never hold anything against Marinette because he loves her and would understand her always," and be more "actually Adrien is allowed to prioritize his feelings and want distance from Marinette after she betrayed him in such a personal way." That would be development. That would be reclaiming his agency. That would be free will and autonomy. I would like to see focus on this in the show and the fandom.
Adrien is not obligated to forgive Marinette. He is not obligated to understand her reasonings for why she did what she did. He is allowed to be angry at her and express his hurt because of her actions. Seasons 4 and 5 have regrettably established Marinette as someone else who denies Adrien's agency and around whom he reverts back to his fawning trauma response, and quite frankly the best thing for him to do would be to break up with her and go find himself on his own terms. I want his character to develop and grow, and unfortunately, Seasons 4 and 5 proved to me that it would not be possible as long as he is around Marinette, both from a character and narrative standpoint.
I just wish people would acknowledge and validate Adrien's perspective and feelings more. Even if it means calling out Marinette. Gabe is Adrien's abuser but he isn't the only one who has hurt Adrien in the story. Marinette is an incredible and amazing person but as far as we've reached in the show, she is hurting Adrien. And she has done many things across these two seasons that violate Adrien's trust. It's not even that this is a mistake she could learn from, but that she has done several such things over and over. From keeping secrets about the Miraculous holders' identities even though Hawkmoth himself knew, to Rena Furtive, to trying to trick him into an identity reveal in Ephemeral, and now keeping the fact that he is a Sentimonster and that Gabe is Monarch from him. It's gone from secret keeping to outright lying to him. It is not healthy. And it is a sign of stagnation and regression in Adrien's growth if he continues to keep forgiving her over and over again despite her never fixing her behavior.
If Adrien's arc is about finding autonomy, then he cannot be with someone who is complicit in denying him the ability to make his own choices. If Marinette was supposed to be the knight in shining armor, they shouldn't have given her the key to the tower and have her hide it away. If she was supposed to save him, they shouldn't have had her condemn him further. If Marinette was supposed to be the one who helped Adrien regain his self worth, the person whom he could trust and rely on the most, they shouldn't have made her side with Gabe, deny Adrien his agency, and violate his trust so many times.
It didn't have to be written this way, but these were the decisions made by the writers. They chose to portray Marinette like this for no discernable reason and refused to acknowledge it or deal with it meaningfully. Adrienette is so profoundly unhealthy now that if Adrien's character is to grow, the only way for him to do that is to break up with Marinette. But the show has also made it very clear that Adrien is only a plot device and a trophy for Marinette at the end. So I have no doubt that all will be forgiven in a matter of minutes, and the narrative will praise Adrien for being traumatized and denying his own emotional needs to comfort Marinette as she feels bad for hurting him. And it's sad, but I guess it is what it is.
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otomes-and-tears · 3 years ago
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Hi!!! I hope you're doing well!!! If it's alright with you, do you mind writing a one shot with Nevra's reaction where it turns out that Guardienne had been pregnant with his kid the whole time they were in the crystal? Like either she just found out and went to tell him because she felt it was only right, or he finds out by overhearing her talking to Ewe about being too scared to tell Nev? I saw a post a long while back where someone was like "could you imagine if Erika had been pregnant with Nevra, Ezarel, or Valkyon's kid while they were in the crystal" and my heart just broke 😔. Especially since Nevra and Erika have this whole "I literally feel like I took a nap, wdym u moved on" vs "i slept around to try and move on for the past 7 years but you're alive and now I'm in emotional shambles (but I love you still)" issue 😭
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► a/n: Anon, I want you to know that the second I got this request, I screenshotted it and sent it to my friends because I was so excited to write about it.
We ended up brainstorming together, so this was particularly fun to write. I’m SO GLAD someone asked me to write smth about it. I just… Have THOUGHTS about this and the concept is so interesting to me I just… I needed to write it.
Before we get started, I do have a couple of disclaimers here:
First, while I did some research about pregnancy I have never been pregnant nor am I a doctor. Keep in mind that this is fanfiction and we’re talking about a half-aengel half-human hybrid who got stuck inside a magical crystal for seven years and didn’t age a day except for her hair getting longer and her vampire partner who kind of looks like Zuko.
So, if you’re looking for realistic representations of anything pregnancy then… You’re in the wrong place, buddy.
Second, This story takes place after the events of chapter 6 of A new era. Episodes 7 and 8 aren't canon in this universe.
And thirdly, this is going to be a multi-parter!
That's all the warnings i have to give out, i believe. I hope you enjoy it!
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I.
Erika’s life has been a mess lately.
That might as well be an understatement of the century. Between fighting murderous dragons to being trapped in a Crystal for seven years, there is a point in time where she started getting desensitized to all the weird things that happened in her life.
She could read familiar’s thoughts? That’s fine.
She was connected to Leiftan and was able to feel his emotions? Weirder things have happened.
The barrier between Earth and Eldarya was disappearing and the two worlds were quickly becoming one? This one was admittedly hard to swallow, but she didn’t find herself too surprised at the notion.
But then again, even with all the chaos, drama and strangeness that she seemed to attract, none of it prepared her for that moment:
‘‘You’re pregnant.’’
Ewelein said, bluntly. Erika was taken aback for a second, trying to process the words that came out of the nurse’s mouth and what it would mean to her.
She felt a weird sort of detachment from the announcement. It’s not like it was something she suspected, nor it was something she even thought possible at all. When she came to the infirmary after the Genkaku mission, all she expected from her obligatory check-up was a remark about how she didn’t come back hurt for once and to be congratulated by the return of her powers. Maybe be chided for not having enough iron in her system. But pregnancy? That was the last thing she ever expected to hear.
‘‘Excuse me, what?’’ Erika stared back at the nurse, eyes widening in horror. ‘‘How is that even possible? I know it’s annoying to mention it at this point, but you are aware that I was in a coma for seven years, right? I’ve only been awake for… What? Two months at this point? I’m not even used to having a body again. I haven’t been sleeping around much.’’
‘‘That’s why I asked for another blood sample. I thought it might’ve been an error, but all results came out positive. You are pregnant.’’
Ewelein held out the exams and mechanically explained how the exam worked. Erika wasn’t able to properly focus on her words, but she had the faint impression that Ewelein was doing it more for herself than for Erika’s sake, anyway.
‘‘There’s no way around it. Haven’t you been feeling symptoms? anything at all?’’
Erika thought about it well.
She hadn’t had her period since she woke up, but like a lot of other weird things she had been feeling lately, Erika chalked it up to being trapped inside of the Crystal for so long.
She didn’t have any use for her legs inside of the crystal, so she had to get used to walking again. She didn’t have to eat, so it took a while before she got used to the feeling of hunger and the sensation of eating.
Her body was in stasis, so when she regained function and started, you know, living again she figured that it would take some time before her reproductive organs started working like normal again. They were not a priority, after all, not when she was under the assumption that she wasn’t carrying a child.
The nausea she started feeling recently? She rationalised it as being the result of seasickness and grief.
After the initial shock and denial at Edgard’s sudden and brutal death, Erika felt as if she had experienced the whole spectre of human emotions in the span of a single, painfully long day.
By the end of the boat journey, she was exhausted. Both physically, due to the strain that the overuse of her powers caused and psychological, due to the emotional rollercoaster she was put through.
A little nausea was to be expected, right?
It only now hit her that she went through quite a couple of fights while carrying a child, was hit and overused her powers. The fact that they were still alive astounded her.
‘‘You haven’t answered my question.’’
‘‘So, when two people like each other very much, they—’’
‘‘I know where babies come from, clearly. I just mean, how is that possible when the last time I’ve been with someone was so long ago?’’
‘‘We did discuss what might’ve happened to your body when you were trapped, didn’t we? I think that your pregnancy confirms that your body was in a state of stasis during the whole time you were there. The second you got out, all the normal functions went back to what they used to be the second you made the sacrifice… But… that’s just a hypothesis. We can’t really erase the possibility of this being--’’
‘‘The Crystal?’’
The thought horrified her.
If having to deal with this being thrown in her face wasn’t bad enough, there was the possibility of it not being the result of a passionate goodbye between lovers, but the result of the Crystal meddling with her life, again.
It seemed strange, even for her already unbelievable circumstances, but considering everything that she went through, she couldn’t exactly discard that theory.
Ewelein, who was bound by duty and still kept herself professional despite the absurdity of the situation, ran through all the options that Erika had at her disposal at the moment.
She was kind and gentle when explaining to Erika what to expect from her pregnancy, and held her hand during the entire explanation, as a way to show comfort. She offered to bring to her a book on the subject, and deliver it to her bedroom discreetly, which was promptly accepted, and assured her that she wouldn’t tell anyone, not even Huang Hua until Erika had calmed down and made her decision.
As a friend, she suggested that it might be a good idea for Erika to contact the father (and even offered to do it on her behalf if necessary) which was declined.
As much as Erika was dreading the conversation that they would have, she knew that she needed to tell Nevra herself.
But how could she even begin to explain what happened to him when only recently he started warming up to her again?
Nevra would never be cruel enough to completely abandon them, and Erika just knew that he would be doting and kind to their child, as he was with all those within his care. But, at the same time, she was afraid of being faced with rejection. It’s not like she could demand a relationship after so long, and forcing it on him using their child as an excuse just seemed downright evil.
She couldn’t sacrifice his freedom like this.
That’s why, in a moment of pure desperation, Erika chose to ignore her plight and avoid him as much as she possibly could.
It tore her up inside, but what else was she supposed to do?
Yeah, she could sense all the disappointed looks that Ewelein shot her, but true to her word, she didn’t say a word. Not when she delivered the book to Erika’s room that night, not a week later when Erika visited the infirmary after being accidentally cut by Mathieu’s sword during fighting lessons and not two weeks later when they went to the beach on Ewelein’s day off.
She diligently scheduled Erika’s next visit, and Erika knew that she couldn’t exactly pretend like nothing was happening anymore.
‘‘At least you have been eating well.’’
Ewelein read through her exam results. Nodding in approval. While she hadn’t said anything directly, she had sent Karuto a detailed list of foods that Erika should consume and avoid, and increased her portions. Eating has been difficult since she woke up, as she couldn’t even stomach certain foods without feeling sick, but it got easier after they were able to narrow down her menu to things that she could tolerate.
The downside is that now Erika was sure that Karuto knew, or at least suspected that something was up. He never said anything, though, which Erika was incredibly grateful for.
‘‘But you know that stress isn’t good for you, right? I mean, in general.’’
‘‘Ewelein, sweetheart, when have I not been stressed?’’
She smiled, though the attempt at a joke wasn’t well-received.
‘‘I’m serious. If you intend on keeping this baby you need to start taking care of yourself. That means sleeping normal hours, eating well, not getting in danger and not getting stressed out.’’
As much as she wanted to argue, she knew perfectly well that Ewelein was right and that she was trying to look out for her, and that’s exactly why it was so frustrating.
It was easy to ask Erika to sleep normal hours or to not be stressed, but every single time Erika closed her eyes she found herself thinking about how Edgard’s throat had been slit. About his blood tinting the snow red.
She found herself wondering if that could be her, in the near future.
Would she be lucky enough to come back, if she were to die again? If she did, would her baby come back too?
She found herself longing for Nevra and his comforting words, then remembering how quick he was to act coldly towards her when she awoke.
He was being nice now, but would he revert back to his coldness once she told him about their child? Would he hate her? Would he send her away? Would he call her a liar? Would he—
She was hyperventilating.
She felt someone gently, but firmly, hold her hand and lead them away from her hair. She noticed, distantly, pain on her scalp.
She must’ve been pulling on it again.
Ewelein told her to take deep breaths, so she did until she calmed herself enough to fully get back to the present time.
She had been spacing out a lot more than she used to, but it probably wasn’t another pregnancy symptom.
Erika stayed in the infirmary for way longer than she expected to once she left for her check-up. Ewelein apologises for pushing her and gives advice, but Erika couldn’t for the life of her remember what it was.
The only thing in her mind was the sudden, concrete realisation that there would be no escaping from her fate:
She would have to tell him, no matter how much it terrified her.
If not for herself, for the sake of her child.
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leejungchans · 4 years ago
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— juliet on kingdom (episode 7).
juliet’s masterlist
from may 13’s episode
note: read the tweets from the bottom up 💕 keep in mind that this contains spoilers in case you want to watch the episode first :3 more under the cut bc this gets LONG ahjdhwjd 😔
— juliet’s outfit;
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disclaimer: the blurring of faces in my outfit collages is in no way meant as a form of disrespect, the sole purpose is to put the focus on the hairstyle and there is absolutely no ill intent. thank you for understanding!!
so everyone really kinda freaked out last episode
bc they didn’t see juliet in the previews for the unit stages
she wasn’t with jongho, eunkwang and seungmin
nor was she with 3racha and joong
so that would leave the performance unit right??
atinys were desperately zooming into screenshots of the performance unit stage for any sign of our girl
and found nothing :(
even in the preview that came after the first one, she was nowhere to be seen 😔
eventually some people started theorising if it was bc mnet didn’t let her participate for whatever reason
and the truth is...drumroll please 🥁
SURPRISE
the boys sent her to be in the rap unit with joong 😋😋
mnet just didn’t show her scenes in the first two previews (like they did with minhyuk)
but she was in the previews where they went to jyp 🥺🥺
she was paired up with jisung for the 120-second interview :3
just two shy besties uwu
“why? why are you laughing?” jisung whines, “and right after you looked at my face too!”
juliet continues to laugh, hiding the lower half of her face behind her hands. “sorry, sorry, i’m not laughing at you, i promise!” she says between giggles, “i just didn’t expect us to be so nervous.”
“ah, i get shy around new people, more than what people would expect. so that’s kinda why i’m a bit awkward right now.”
“i’m like that too, but i thought we became closer friends during the sports day filming! i’m hurt!” she says, placing a hand over her heart.
“no, no, no!” jisung defends, waving his hands frantically, “we did! i’m still shy, i guess.”
“not shy, not me!” juliet sings in response, doing the hand movement in the choreography of itzy’s song.
stunned into silence by the sudden reference of his label-mates, jisung blinks at her owlishly before a loud ‘pft’ sound emits from both of them, and they dissolve into giggles once more.
“okay, okay,” she says, sobering up a little after a few seconds. “we need to do this seriously. no more being awkward! awkward is just a mindset.”
jisung’s eyes widen. “woah, you’re right. we won’t feel awkward if we just tell ourselves that we’re being cool.”
she nods approvingly. “exactly. we are cool.”
“okay then, let’s go!” he shouts enthusiastically, earning muffled snickers from the other members who are sitting off-screen.
juliet and jisung go quiet again from his outburst. she even tried to bite the inside of her cheek to stifle any laughter, but her efforts are futile as they both promptly collapse to the ground in a fit of giggles.
“i-i don’t think we can do this,” juliet wheezes to the cameras, clutching her stomach as tears gather in the corners of her eyes. beside her, jisung isn’t faring any better as he attempts to catch his breath.
off-screen, changbin playfully complains, “yah! what are you two doing? you’re supposed to be doing an interview!”
when she entered the jyp café with joong and minhyuk 3racha was like omg hiiiiiii
no one was happier than chan to see her 🥺
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI
3racha made her, joong and minhyuk sing their orders 💀💀
minhyuk: juliet your ears are so red lmao
juliet: [quickly untucks her hair so it covers her ears] do i really have to do this? 😭😭
chan: yes you do bestie 🤩
“[sighs] americanoooo~ joha joha~”
hongjoong: [cringes but also uwu bc she’s his baby]
3racha: kqjejwjdnsj awwww
minhyuk: ohhhhh~ cuteeee
smh juliet stop (unintentionally) collecting men 😔
okay but changbin treated them all with his jyp artist points 🥺🥺🥺 changbin best boy
juliet, to chan: i’ll come next time to use up your points 😼
minhyuk: me too!! juliet let’s go together!!!
yeah she malfunctioned for a second bc The™️ lee minhyuk just said that and he was her celebrity crush for the longest time pls
she is the most successful melody 😔
she was so excited when they all went to chan’s studio
“ohhhHhh so this is the famous chan’s room 😼 honoured to be here mate”
pls they named themselves 6racha and were literally just having a blast in the studio 😭😭😭
minhyuk: your voice sounds so different when you rap!!
juliet: really? 😅😅 i didn’t really notice
minhyuk: yeah it’s cool :]
okay but when they went to jypbob for lunch
she was so amazed by all the food
“😮😮😮 THIS ALL LOOKS SO GOOD WTF”
the Jeekies™️ making their debut on national tv
yes both jisung’s and juliet’s 🥰🥰
she was so shy when the others in mayfly came to watch rap unit’s rehearsal 😭😭😭
also everyone in the mayfly vocal and dance units went ❓❓❓ where is juliet????? shouldn’t she be here??????
felix: where’s my bestie :(
no lixliet for the unit stages 💔
wooyoung/jongho: oh she’s in the rap unit :D
“WDYM SHE’S IN THE RAP UNIT??????”
okay but as much of a power move this is, she was also so so so nervous
like, the most nervous she’s ever been on kingdom
bc she’s going to be performing with so many incredible rappers, juliet knows that she really has to give it her all to keep up with them
so she was Big Stressed™️ and not in a fun way
it was more of a “oh god what if i’m way too far behind and the difference in skill is so obvious that i cost our groups points????” way
but in true queen fashion, she definitely killed it during rehearsals and everyone in the unit reassured her that she had nothing to worry about 🥺🥺
move over round 2 juliet bc if you thought that was the last we’d see of rapper juliet, you have a big storm coming 😼😼
she rapped with hongjoong before he joined changbin, then rejoined the performance to rap with chan!!
aussie line stans are well fed ✨✨
girlie was collecting everyone in the audience 😼
pls but ateez was so proud of her bc they knew how stressed she was about this performance 😭😭😭
she was so relieved when mayfly won that she teared up before being pulled into the group hug :(((
“i’m so relieved by the results,” juliet says to the cameras during their backstage interview, the other members in the rap unit nodding in agreement. “we all had a lot of fun preparing for this performance, and i’m just really proud of us.”
“wait,” minhyuk says, tone laced with concern, “are you tearing up? why? we did well!”
hongjoong, sitting in the back row, reaches forward to pat juliet on the shoulder comfortingly as she goes silent to suppress the tears. “she was really stressed preparing for this performance, so she’s a bit overwhelmed right now,” he explains for her.
juliet inhales deeply before saying, “because our unit has so many great rappers, i felt burdened because i was scared that my rapping wouldn’t be up to par with everyone else’s. but everyone was so encouraging and kind, and it really helped me push through the pressure, so i’m very thankful.”
“ey, you did so well,” jisung says enthusiastically. “we never worried about your performance!”
now that their rap unit finished performing she could sit back and enjoy the other performances!!
she was mesmerised by it’s one’s dance unit bc their performance was so beautiful
she said :OOOOOO
then came mayfly’s dance unit!!!!
“MAYFLY LET’S GOOOOOOOO”
pls she was their biggest hypewoman 😭😭😭😭
literally screamed during san and felix’s part
then when wooyoung and felix did the stunt????
she lost her SHIT
the way mnet cut from chan’s worried “felix?” to juliet’s “FELIXXXXXX :D” 😭
“YEAHHHHHHHHH MAYFLYYYYY!!!!”
pls she was so so proud 😭😭😭😭😭😭
in conclusion mayfly are besties now ❤️❤️
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a/n: hello is everyone okay because I AM NOT 💔💔 all the stages from today were so so good and i’m so proud of all the units 🤧🤧💗 i NEED the studio versions of all the songs from today <//3 (and from round 2 too 😭) also lemme know if you’d like to see the full version of jisung and juliet’s 120 sec interview!! 😋 (though i’m prolly gonna write it anyways whdjwhs) your feedback and support means a lot to me so tysm!! 🥺❤️
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sweetertangerine · 3 years ago
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SO. THE BEST VILLAIN IN HLVRV IS CAPITAL M AND HERE'S WHY: A mini ramble Warning: very biased/based on personal interpretation
So. First, I want to talk about everything that this. Character? Self insert? Both? I want to talk about them on their own first, then expand. So, from what we know, Capital M is a villain capable of multiversal travel. They have top of the line technology, and a vast knowledge OF the multiverse. They're kinda lonely, but find company and comfort in their hobbies and their robots. They like to make jokes, and generally just have a good time. They believe that negative experiences can turn someone into something amazing (and usually evil which is totally epic.) These are things we can gather purely from their character interactions, and what they tell us. They don't totally know what they're doing, ofc. At certain points, they're kinda wingin' it. Fuckin around and finding out. And when they appear, you know shit's about to either get really funny or really interesting. Great villain, right? Here's the thing. They only get better when you actually take into account their actions in episode 2. They fooled everyone. We thought they were McDonald's Barney for the longest time. We were all convinced it was Barney. They did this ON PURPOSE. They were AWARE of the events of Episode 1 and In Dreams. They KNEW how to get us, and in a way, Malcom, to trust them. They KIDNAPPED anyone who could mess with the anomaly. They even made the Neo recording to screw with Swap. This is all preplanned, well thought out stuff. Stuff they either had to methodically plan out, or do on the fly. Either way, it was GENIUS. They purposely went out of their way to, in some form, keep Malcom and the Gordons somewhat distant from each other. Malcom was too busy focusing on THEM to realize that he was kinda just. Letting the Gordons do their own thing. It let them get BORED. Let me remind you that Malcom was an unforeseeable obstacle. The Evil legit says that they thought Malcom would count as a Gordon. Malcom's intervention was unexpected, and they handled the unexpected better than any other villain seemed to tbh. When they snatched the Gordons? They didn't force the guys onto the ship. It was an invitation. And with the time they'd kept Malcom busy, he didn't really rebuild any bonds. So, they had no real reason to stay with him. Especially not Swap. Which circles back to the Neo voice decoy which was just. MWAH. These are their villainous actions in the FIRST HALF of episode 2.
Have I mentioned that they have a giant fuck you robot? Have I mentioned that their ship IS the giant fuck you robot??? No??? IT IS. IT IS AND THE IMAGE OF THEIR GIANT FUCK YOU ROBOT GETTIN' READY TO KICK SOME ASS MADE ME SET MY PHONE DOWN AND TAKE A MINUTE.
Now. Let's talk about 2 characters that, to ME, are important to realizing a few things about Capital M.
First. Malcom. You all saw this one coming.
Malcom is the player from Mothra's worldstop au. Malcom, when we meet and read about him at first, is a dude who's alone and bitter. We find out that he didn't know the AI were. Well. ALIVE. He's not a bad PERSON. He did bad things, but he's capable of remorse.
Capital M says he would've become like them, if Malcom would've stayed on the same course. And it's true. It's why Malcom sees the good in Capital M. Good that he had a hard time seeing in himself.
Because Capital M is a good person. A person who doesn't actively want to HURT people. They do bad things, but that doesn't make them a bad person. It makes them a villain.
"But Tangy, wdym they don't wanna hurt people" you may be wondering. After all, look at what they did. And I present to you the fact that they actively avoided hurting anyone unnecessarily. Yes. They emotionally hurt people. But only when they had to, for the sake of their plan.
They didn't hurt Neo to get that audio recording. They didn't hurt Malcom, or the Gordons when backed into a corner.
And they didn't unnecessarily hurt the second character I wanna talk about. Leading Light.
Leading Light escaped his room every chance he got. And Capital M? Didn't like. Beat him up or anything. Hell, they stop trying to keep LL in his room by the end of it. And they clearly find LL annoying, yet stay in his company.
I know what you're about to assume. That I'm gonna go into some mopey talk about loneliness and putting up with someone just to stave off said loneliness.
But no.
Their tolerance of LL as a frenemy is proof of the thing that puts them above EVERY other villain.
LL is entertaining. And they're invested in these characters, and this story, for the same reasons some of us are. For the comfort. To feel less lonely. To feel related to. To be.
Entertained.
Capital M is complex, and deep, and absolutely interesting. But what we know 100% surely, is that they came into this for the same reason we did. To be entertained. Immersed. To be a part of the story. Their motives can be seen in so many different ways, and different lights, and you can see them as a good person or a villain or both and.
Yes, they emotionally hurt people. That's bad. But so did we. Not all of us, but some of us, actively antagonized characters. Went out of our way to upset and hurt them. Think about what created Loverboy back in Y2KVR. That was US. We aren't bad people for it. Because, to many of us, they're fictional. We're just playing around. Being entertained.
We are Malcom. We are Capital M.
Capital M travels the multiverse and studies it. They see these characters and iterations similar to how we do. As characters. Yet when the characters start to show emotion, and fight back? When they show the possibility of wanting to befriend them? M retreats. Because getting to know these iterations would mean accepting that they can feel, and care. A similar revelation to Malcom.
The other main villains are good. They're interesting and entertaining. But Capital M is The Best Villain, just like how Loverboy is the most underestimated.
Keep in mind that a lot of this is just. Purely my interpretation of events and implications Even without the character analysis, their actions and general personality is awesome. Plus they have a giant robot. Have I mentioned the giant robot.
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