#sebastian twelfth night

[helen-cooper-fan-account]

Guys stop with the Sebastian hate smh

I feel like sebastian is just far too sad to think of long term things + I think he was rather dependent on his sister so he doesn’t really know what to do on his own. Personally I don’t think Sebastian and Antonio were hooking up or anything during their time together, I think the two just became very close which led to Antonio falling in love with him. I think sebastian was far too caught up in his own grief to even notice Antonio’s feelings. Antonio did say he loved Sebastian a lot but in a very poetic way, a lot of people reading twelfth night don’t even realize Antonio means romantic love. Sebastian in most productions and even just in the script itself seems to be more emotional about his sisters “death” than viola is of his, I feel like he’s the more emotional while viola is the more logical. He acts on impulse and spur of the moment feelings rather than thinking like his sister does. He’s a bit stupid, but not without a heart. I think he marries Olivia just because he’s so lost and confused and happy to be wanted like that in such an upfront and understandable way so he just went with it. It was a certainty in his uncertain life. In the end he and Olivia only stay together out of convenience. They most likely wouldn’t be happy together. As for Antonio, perhaps if he was straight up said “let’s get married Sebastian!” Sebastian would’ve understood, however you also have to remember that Sebastian is upper class, maybe it’s not that he’s unaware of Antonio’s feelings but that he just can’t reciprocate due to societal norms, Olivia was a safe option. Or maybe his feelings for Antonio were just too much and with Olivia it was just like a quick fun feeling that made him feel better. Another interpretation I have is in the line “my kind Antonio, I can no other answer make but thanks.” Which is in response to Antonio talking about his love. I performed it as if I were saying “Antonio, I understand what you’re saying but I just can’t think of these things now, so I simply give you my thanks.” Or my reading before I decided to make Sebastian zesty was “Antonio, I understand what you’re saying and I’m sorry but I don’t reciprocate so all I can give you is my thanks.” Antonio being left in jail sucks tho however loads of productions make sure to include him getting out which is either done super sad or more happy.

Anyway I am Sebastian’s no.1 defender y’all are attacking the wrong stupid Shakespeare character 👿 may I redirect your hate toward Claudio from much ado about nothing? Hero deserved FAR better than him.

(Making this a proper post cos I can)

[anneslovegood]

just realized that a major part of both gravity falls and twelfth night is not just twins but specifically one twin having to take the identity of the other not long after losing them in order to survive

[fading-mentally]

Some queer thoughts about Twelfth Night

I've been thinking about Twelfth Night a lot within the last year, and I am certainly not the first person to deliberate on the queer and trans narratives in the play. However, there is an interpretation I have yet to see that I would like to put out there. That being; Viola is a trans woman.

My personal interpretation of Twelfth Night is that Viola, a trans woman who has been out to and accepted by her family for a while (explaining her need/desire for a unich identity due to years of voice training), ends up in unfamiliar territory. Without the protection of her family and status, Viola and the captain fear for her safety in case her trans identity were to be found out in a place where neither of them are sure about trans acceptance in the community. So, Viola dons her brother's clothes and assumes her dead name in the hopes that someone may put two and two together if they were to come looking for her (Seb doesn't because a) he thinks his sister is dead b) he's not very good at math, and c) he absolutely thinks that everyone calling him Cesario is a really weird coincidence). Being trans could also account for everyone thinking her and Seb are the same person, as they would be identical twins instead of fraternal twins.

So, throughout the whole play, Viola is not only dealing with her feelings for Orsino, but also her guilt and sadness over living in the closet after being out for so long, even if it's for her safety. This eats at her more and more as she begins to become closer with the people around her (her little crush on Orsino developing into a much deeper understanding and friendship between the two of them, which also makes her feelings that much more intense). As she has more and more of these vaguely (or explicitly, with Olivia) romantic encounters with these two people she cares about, she struggles with her inability to pursue an actual romance with either of these people without lying to them.

At this point, I'm just describing Twelfth Night, but I would def be willing to talk on the matter further if anyone is interested, but I need a typing break for now.

[electricguitarhasmyheart]

IT'S @asuryanshallwatchyou AND MY FIRST SHOW TODAY

WISH US LUCKKKK

[greencheekconure27]

The all-male Globe Twelfth Night production has led me to the conclusion that I actually would like to see Viola played by men more.For balance, Sebastian should be played by a woman.

[wordpainterpixie]

Orsino: If you got arrested, what would your family and friends assume you did?

Sebastian: Theft.

Feste: Disturbing the peace.

Maria: Aggravated assault with a high heel.

Viola: Identity fraud.

Malvolio: Probably a parking ticket. What is wring with you all?

[titular-twins-tournament]

[thatwildegirl]

Sebastian: Antonio, you risked your life to save me!

Antonio: And I'd do it again! And perhaps a third time! But that would be it.

[squishy-min-mochi]

Oh Twelfth Night Sebastian, how I wish to be in your stead as one of a pair of androgynous twins…

[helen-cooper-fan-account]

The creator and the characters who emerged from his grief

First Image: William Shakespeare

Second image: Hamlet from Tragedy of Hamlet Prince of Denmark

Third image: Sebastian from Twelfth night

[transsexualcoriolanus]

why is no one talking about sebastian saying “my stars shine darkly over me; the malignancy of my fate might perhaps distemper yours; therefore i shall crave of you your leave that i might bear my evils alone: it were a bad recompense for your love, to lay any of them on you.” does no one care anymore about characters who think they’re a burden to their friends and fear that they’ll hurt the people they love because of what they’ve been through?

[wouldgaysexfixthem]

would gay sex fix them?

[greencheekconure27]

"In love with" or "loves"?

(unpopular opinion on this site I know but there're a million ways you could play this dynamic with or without romantic love, most of which I'd enjoy if done well.)

[mandhos]

it's cabala

On the other hand Antonio your dialogues Antonio!

[lesbian-thespian-paladin]

Thinking about how Viola refers to herself as “poor monster” for having a crush and also gender problems. Like me too girl

[wordpainterpixie]

Sebastian: What do you want to be for Halloween?

Antonio: Yours.

Sebastian:

Sebastian: …yeah, that would be pretty scary.