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The more I think about gomens2 the more sad and upset I get. Why was it done so badly. Why did none of the plot threads lead to anything. Why was there no payoff to any of them. Why was the kiss the most uncomfortable and the least romantic kiss of all time. Why
#My girlfriend was like âimagine if we got the circularity and clarity of storytelling that the good place hadâ and I got so upset I had to#lie down for a minute#What if this show understood the cores of the characters like Our Flag Means Death did#What if it fully leaned into the romcom elements instead of dangling them about like dead stinky fish#What if it had even basic levels of competent writing and plotting#I am tormented by terrible questions#I am just#so flabbergasted#You know a common thing I've seen when discussing storytelling is that you should be able to look at the story from every angle#turn it upside down and scratch the surface a bit and it should still hold up#this story didnt even hold up looking at it the right way up#Like. Ships people like happened we got our representation but at what cost. at what fucking cost#good omens 2 spoilers#good omens season 2 spoilers#good omens spoilers#tagging for people who wanna avoid anything about it#good omens 2
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horror of 2025
here's the list (hoping i get every movie but mostly will be kinda focusing on the ones i'm either excited for or is super popular)
the wolfman - leigh whannell's take on the classic
final destination: bloodlines - tormented by recurring violent nightmares, stefanie returns home to break the cycle
black phone 2: sequel
sax xi: eleventh installment in the saw franchise
28 years later - it's been three decades since the rage virus escaped a laboratory and some groups have been able to live amongst the infected but when they leave the safety of their island they'll discover dark secrets
m3gan 2.0 - sequel
companion - after being invited to a weeekend trip at her new beau's lakeside estate, iris uncovers a terrible secret
they follow: sequel to it follows
frankenstein: guillermo's del toro's take on the original
the strangers: chapter 2 - sequel
the strangers: chapter 3 - end of a trilogy
scary movie: return to the horror spoof series
sinners - trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back
untitled jordan peele film - plot tba
poohniverse: monsters assemble - a team of evil childhood cartoon characters i didn't know we needed but i guess we're getting one
vicious - a young woman must spent the night fighting for her existence as she slips down a disturbing rabbit hole contained inside a mysterious gift from a late-night visitor
blade - i mean i hope so but i'm not sure if we're actually getting it this year
the bride - in the 1930s, a lonely frankenstein travels to chicago to seek the aid of dr. euphronius in creating a companion for himself. they murder a young woman and the bride is born
scary stories to tell in the dark 2 - sequel
thanksgiving 2 - sequel
the auditors - nikki, grappling with post-job loss financial strain, inadvertently ignores the fine print of their MDPOPE purchase, and their descent into horror begins with the arrival of the auditors who subject them to torture
grind - a group of college students host a midnight grindhouse film festival. they discover a cursed arthouse horror movie called the creeping chaos. in screening the movie, they unleash absolute mayhem
you take can now - plot tba
scream 7 - plot tba
kraken - marine biologist johanne is doing research on a fish farm in vangshe, a rural community located by the fjord. when she encounters strange occurances along with two brutal deaths, she discovers that a mythical creature rests
the woman in the yard - a mysterious woman who repeatedly appears in a family's front yard, often giving chilling warnings, and leaving residents to question her identity, motive, and potential danger
i know what you did last summer - reboot of classic
fear street: prom queen - prom season at shadyside high is underway, but when an outsider is unexpectedly nominated to the court, and other girls start disappearing, the class of '88 is in for a hell of a prom night
until dawn - live action of the video game
let the evil go west - a railroad worker stumbles upon a fortune teller in distubring circumstances and horrifying visions drive him towards madness
the monkey - when twin brothers hal and bill discover their father's old monkey toy in the attic, a series of gruesome deaths start occurring around them
hell house llc: lineage - fifth installment
screamboat: a late night boat ride turns into a desperate fight for survival in new york city when a mouse becomes a monstrous reality (what the fuck)
body farm - the forester johann only wants to warn his ex-wife sophie of a forensic research facility, but when he gets to the site, fast-growing slime has infested the corpses of the dead and brings them to life
i know exactly how you die - when his slasher-fiction novel manifests in real life, rian burman has to finish his story without getting his protagonist killed
le fanu's carmilla - retelling of the book
devil's work - when a couple, traveling on their vacation, meet a desperate girl seeking for her missing sister, they encounter terror and up as hostages to a twisted family and their son
the seductress from hell - hollywood actress undergoes a horrific transformation after being pushed to the edge by her husband
hyde - modern take on the classic novella by robert louis stevenson
crawlers - in the year 2030, a zombie pandemic decimates the united states population. american surviors rush to mexico where a plateau is believed to be zombie free
the children of the woods - in january 1999, a group of five disappeared after they went into the woods of york, south carolina for a camping trip, their story is being told 25 years later (inspired by blair witch project)
the dreadful - in the backdrop of the war of roses, anne and her mother-in-law morwen who live in solidary, run into a man from their past
presence - a family moves into a suburban house and become convinced they're not alone
victorian psycho - winifred notty arrives at a remote gothic manor, and as she assimilates into life, staff members begin to disappear
heart eyes - when the heart eyes killer strikes seattle, a pair of co workers pulling overtime are mistaken for a couple by the couple-hunting killer. now they must spend their valetine's day running for their lives
peter pan's neverland nightmare - after her brother michael is abducted by "the boy who won't grow up," peter pan, wendy darling goes on a rescue mission
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Ok so I just listened to an SVU podcast where they interviewed Diane Neal about her time on the show⊠hereâs a couple tidbits that Diane said
1.Her first episode in season 3 she was only like 22 or 23 years old
2. She was the youngest person on the cast when she became Casey Novak with the second youngest person being MariskaâŠ. Being 12 years older
3.She tormented Meloni for 6 months when she first became a regular by bringing an opened can of mixed vegetables and leaving them for him to find because of one of his previous roles
4. When he finally âflippedâ his lid she was laughing her ass off and he was like âJesus how old are youâ and she responded â25â and then he immediately calmed down and was like âoh ok coolâ and now whenever he is with cast members from that movie he will send Diane a selfie with a can of mixed vegetables
5. Her and Ice-T were obsessed with uncrustables that were provided to snack on (I NEED a fic where this is a plot point)
6. Diane said whenever she saw that the actress who played Judge Petrovsky was on the call sheet, she would be so excited cause it was always so fun to work with her (as well as Viola Davis)
7. Apparently her character Casey Novak was based off of one of the writers who was actually a SVU ada in Brooklyn at one point
8. Her episode in season 3 was basically her first acting gig, one of any note anyway
9. Diane lowkey shipped Casey with Chester Lake (I was deeply upset about this fact *not really lol*)
10. The Sex Crimes baseball t-shirt we see Casey wear sometimes if an actual design used for department softball games for the Brooklyn SVU
I highly recommend listening to the podcast âThatâs Messed Up: An SVU podcastâ the episode they interviewed Diane Neal was where they talked about Serendipity, which was the first episode of Casey Novak
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Carmy is a serial plotter
So I wanted to do this post to serve as a sort of compilation of proof that Carmy puts serious thought into his plans to spend time or hoard the possessions of the people he romantically desires. This theory is so fascinating to me because it adds another intriguing layer of personality to the tormented and talented chef we all have come to love. To layout the evidence Iâll break it down by season.
Season 1:
I think we actually get the first sign that Carmy plots when he texts Syd before opening Mikeyâs letter. After he states his behavior was not ok, he tells Syd that her check is ready for her to come get whenever.
Now please correct me if Iâm wrong, but isnât it more customary that a final check be mailed to a former employee, especially if the employee and employer are not in the most cordial of relationships, which at that time they were very much not. Or Carmy could have asked if Syd would like to come in to retrieve the check or have it mailed. But no, Carmy specifically says she needs to come to the restaurant to get it. I think this was Carmyâs way of ensuring he could see her at least one last time to try and convince her to come back, even before they found the tomato can money (that money certainly helped his plan).
Season 2:
One of the first metas that came about suggesting that Carmy formulates plans in lieu of just communicating his feelings is from @fairestbeard and can be read here. It brilliantly lays out how Carmy is the one whom purposefully messed up the lacto ferment he and Syd were working on in order to be able to make the suggestion that they essentially go on a food tour date which Carmy failed to do previously in front of the lockers at The Bear. Thereâs also evidence that Carmy purposefully moved his Chef coat to his kitchen where he knew Syd was going to be which eventually led to him gifting her the Thom Browne Chef coat.
Season 3:
Ever Dinner
So I think there may already be meta written about this but I canât find a specific post about it so definitely let me know of any existing meta.
Carmy made a plan to ask Syd to the Ever Funersl dinner ahead of time, indicated by the fact that Carmy awkwardly starts the conversation with âWeâre closed tomorrow nightâ seemingly in the hopes to steer the conversation towards the Ever dinner. Once he realizes he has an opening he makes an obviously pensive expression and then shoots his shot.
Sydâs Scrunchie
Thereâs been a lot of speculation that the scrunchie Carmy has on his dresser is Sydneyâs. Sydney is the only character to consistently wear scrunchies when sheâs not working in the restaurant. So therefore I think Carmy had to have taken it one of the times she was in his apartment. Or maybe Syd had one in the restaurant lying around somewhere accessible to Carmy.
This theory is really interesting because it would be easy enough for Camry to just give the scrunchie back to Sydney if he innocently came across it but the fact that heâs hoarding it shows that he is holding onto it because he loves her deeply.
Season 4:
Now this season is where the plotting gets heavy. @freedelusionshere was one of if not the first to come up with the idea that it was Carmy that took Sydâs cleaver (post here) and @hamachibloodmagic reblogged with photo evidence that Syd indeed used her cleaver around Carmy shortly before it went missing (reblog here).
@thoughtfulchaos773âs meta detailing how Carmy lies is explored in great detail here and also provides evidence that Carmy hoarded Claireâs green sweater which also serves as proof that Carmy probably took Sydâs cleaver.
I find it hilarious that when Sydney tells Carmy she lost her cleaver, instead of offering help to find it (which would be the normal and expected response), Carmy immediately asks her if she needs a new cleaver. CARMY BE PLOTTING. Itâs definitely implied Carmy is going to engage in another grand gift giving gesture towards Syd, because that is what Carmy does when he realizes he can actually provide something Sydney wants or needs, like with the chef coat. Only this time, Carmy TAKES the object so that he can replace it, probably with one that is high end or with significant sentimental value.
Significance
What does all of this prove? Carmy is very aware of his feelings for Syd. There has still been some speculation within this community as to whether or not Carmy is aware that he is deeply in love with Syd and the fact that Carmy plots in order to get closer to her is evidence he does these things intentionally.
He even so much as calls himself a âpsychoâ when he is stuck in the walk in and questions why he ever thought he could be in a relationship. On surface level, none of Carmyâs actions up to that point would be any that anyone would call psychopathic. Which leads me to believe he is very much aware that he plots and I think that is the psycho behavior to which he is referring. And due this realization, Carmy deflects and sabotages his plans because he believes he is unworthy of Sydâs love.
Perhaps the cherry on top to these revelations is that it only proves further that Carmy and Sydney are soulmates. Because we all know this story starts with Sydneyâs plot to come and work for the chef who made the best meal of her life and lies to Carmy about why sheâs there. These two are so afraid of open communication that they rely on elaborate plans theyâve made in order to get closer to the other. If thatâs not soulmatism, I donât know what is.
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Stranger Things has made the General Audience care too much for Will to deny a Byler ending
In Season 1, Will is kidnapped, survives a week without food or shelter in a nightmare dimension, and is implanted by a demon. He's been abused by his dad and bullied his whole life. Yet once he orients himself the FIRST thing he does is see Jonathan's hand and ask if he's okay:
In Season 2, he avoids telling everyone what's tormenting him because he doesn't want to worry them and he thinks he'd be misunderstood and babied. (He only tells Mike.) He gets possessed, has the guilt of causing people's deaths, and multiple times feels the pain of being burnt alive:
In Season 3, his friends aren't interested in D&D. Mike tells him something homophobic and cruel. Will realizes he's gay and closeted and has had his innocence stolen from him forever. He destroys Castle Byers full of sorrow and self-hate:
In Season 4, he's in love with his best friend and lives with the pain that Mike is dating his sister. STILL, he unconditionally helps Mike in the relationship, even if it denies himself a chance to be with him. He gives El the credit for the painting HE made for HIM:
For 4 seasons, the show has made people care for Will as he suffers alone. What logically happens in Season 5 is that he stops suffering and is no longer alone.
In Season 5, the Duffer Brothers have left an open plot point where MIke's love confession to El was based on a lie. He felt romantic love for the first time because WILL confessed his love for HIM. (I wrote something on that!)
The seeds for a "Byler twist" are all there. The main factor against a Byler endgame is a need to cater to the General Audience who might not be ready for a gay relationship between two main characters.
But not only would denying Byler be (by far) the worst instance of queerbaiting in media history, where Will's love for Mike is simply a device to prop up a straight relationship...
... It also would feel particularly CRUEL to Will. For 4 seasons, the Duffer Brothers have made sure the GENERAL AUDIENCE wants him to have a happy ending. And they have made clear that Will wants to be with Mike so much.
Nearly every other main character in ST has had their love interest. There is no main cast addition to s5, so there is no "other boy." If Byler happens, then the people who'd complain would not only want the gay boy, but WILL of all people (how dare you!), be the only main character to end up alone. He is America's Gay Adopted Son. The anti-Bylers would be isolated.
The Duffer brothers have set up the GA to cheer for Will pairing with the boy he loves. It would be a home run against homophobia.
Will told Mike he is the heart of the party. But for the GA, Will has been the heart of the show since the beginning. (And if Mike leads the party in s5, it's because Will's heart is on his shield.)
"Will really takes center stage again in [season] 5," Ross Duffer told Variety. "This emotional arc for him is what we feel is going to hopefully tie the whole series together."
The Duffers have said s4 was their Empire Strikes Back ending. Which makes s5 the show's triumphant Return of the Jedi.
Will will get his happy ending. It's all there!
-teambyler
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After sleeping on it for a night ive decided im extremely pissed they reduced bix to cassian's stay at home troubled wife, and even though i think it's the best thing that she left him so that they could both stay with the rebellion, i do think it was very badly executed. i saw a post mention that she should have been more radicalised after killing gorst, and i realised, even though it makes sense that she'd be so changed and traumatised after her arrest and torture, season 1 bix would not in any world be happy with staying in their little domestic jungle yurt while cassian was away doing Some Shit, especially not after finally getting her revenge and reaping the benefits of that. i definitely think we should have seen her be more proactive and assertive in the rebellion operations, even if it was only on yavin. she's a ferrixian mechanic, for christ's sake, why did we never see her anywhere near any machinery or ships??
i think that's the most disappointing thing about this season. it's like they forgot bix's entire personality in season 1 and replaced it all with "loves cassian, tormented by dreams, wishes she was doing more," and forgot that she's also a tradeworker, she was also affected by the destruction of ferrix and the loss of brasso, she tried to outrun stormtroopers, she tried to stand up to dedra meero, she's not so weak and 2 dimensional that she can be satisfyingly confined to whatever domestic setting she and cassian have settled into.
there were hints of her thirst to do more in her interaction with luthen in episode 5 and i understand the narrative being like "but she's still too tired and vulnerable to do anything!" because well, she's suffered the worst torture you can suffer AND then was victim to disgusting imperial sexual violence... but it felt like after she and cassian blew up gorst, the show sort of wiped its hands of bix's arc and went back to making her entire life revolve around cassian... and then her decision to leave made sense but, making it about a force healer's vision about cassian's significance in the rebellion felt sort of... weak? a little bit silly? if it was in combination with us seeing more explicitly how frustrated and eager to fight and win bix was at this point, it would have been a lot more satisfying. i mostly enjoyed her and cassian's relationship in this season, i think it was interesting how surviving ferrix brought them back together, and seeing them go from exes who can't stand each other but still lowkey love each other to genuinely ride or die in love was actually a lot more interesting and enjoyable than i thought it would be. HOWEVER. they dropped the fucking ball on bix's character and storyline, and in hindsight that made their relationship feel like a little bit of unnecessary plot device. there were other ways to set up cassian's final arc and there were DEFINITELY other, better ways to pan out bix's arc.
and i don't think it's an inability to write women well, because i think they've done a fantastic job with mon mothma and dedra and kleya. but i think it's an inability to write women within romantic relationships with men well. that's the issue. it's as if the price for a happy relationship with cassian was 80% of bix's strength and independence as a character. and that sucks.
#this is a really long post that doesn't really say much but i just woke up like 20 minutes ago with this on my mind i gotta get it out#andor#andor spoilers#bix caleen
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you trigger my unskippable cutscene
Guys Divorcesteal is really good in a way that's destroying my sleep schedule!
Divorcesteal is a Minecraft SMP made by fans of the Lifesteal SMP (including a couple of my friends) with similar mechanics and more gay divorce.
On the server killing another player takes a heart from their healthbar and gives it to you. Which means you can only lose so many fights in a row before you're on zero and get banned. So you need to spend a bunch of resources either crafting new hearts or reviving dead players.
But unlike Lifesteal these aren't some of the best and sweatiest Minecraft PvPers in the world, they're⊠tumblr fandom dweebs. Which means there are fun fights, but mostly there's psychosexual torment, angst, and queerbaiting. Roleplay is king with everyone playing at least a heightened version of themselves, and so falling in love getting married and having an angry divorce is often a more significant kind of plotline than the combat.
But the really fun things from a viewer pov is the roleplay is just as competitive as the combat. Characters in the story keep secrets to advance their agendas, which means the players keep secrets from the other players. Because many people livestream their perspective or record it for youtube this means strict no stream-sniping rules. Players can't watch streams/videos marked :3 without permission and fans are told not to leak what they see.
Which is great!!! Because it means i get to talk to my good friend Will and say I'm so excited to see the next stream! And tell everyone else that I'm excited because :3 I know that next stream the person she trusts most on the server is going to murder her, which Will doesn't know!
^ Actually happened on Tuesday it was fucked up and beautiful!
The macro scale plot atm is the season ends in 2 weeks and various teams are firing off their endgame plans. Pathogen are building monumental architecture for obscure and sinister purposes. 1000 Suns formed with the plan of escaping to the End dimension and blocking access to it using advanced chunk banning tech so they could be safe. Pathogen found out by misc sneaky shit and they moved first. So now the server has no End portals at all and the whole dimension is inaccessible.
I'm currently fixated on Will's smaller team/polycule called Elysium, with Angel and ChipsEclipse. Will had secretly planned to join 1000 Suns in the End, but due to a combination of irl timing issues and personal (in character) beef it wasn't clear if Chips would be welcome. The plan became impossible due to not having an End to run away to, at which point Chips found out, felt hurt and abandoned, and decided to betray the team by joining pathogen and killing Will and Angel. Hence the :3 situation on Tuesday.
But of course being fucked up tumblr/ao3 kids everyone has decided to yes-and this situation to produce even more heartbreak and angst. Especially from the pov of Angel who wasn't involved in the murdering but was in the polycule and remains in love with both of them!
If you want to join me in experiencing this the tumblr tag is pretty active. There's lots of streams on these acounts:
https://www.twitch.tv/sundialseraph
https://www.twitch.tv/chipseclipse
https://www.twitch.tv/bettyisbaffled
https://www.twitch.tv/arceoptryx
https://www.twitch.tv/ravathedemondragon
https://www.twitch.tv/marshmarrowed
https://www.twitch.tv/leoonine
https://www.twitch.tv/gaysetokaiba
https://twitch.tv/vacillantvoid
But there's vods channels and other stuff I'm forgetting.
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No I'm just so obsessed with Spoke talking about his time in his second season, how that was the first season he found what completed him, made him feel whole.
How minutes before he said SPOKE: âi wanted to make sure that there was someone that was gonna [end the season]"
His primary goal, core ideology, is world ender.
And it got solidified in his second season.
I've been talking forever about waiting for the new members to get to the end of their first season, that's no mystery. But I've also been sooo excited and delighted watching the s5 additions take on their second full season and thinking back I actually don't think I've ever written about it, whoops.
They were just getting so comfortable with lifesteal and with themselves. And so much of their ideologies just finally came through in the final weeks. Like unironically I've been excited for s7 since like one month into s6: All the s5 adds on their 3rd season, all the s6 adds on their 2nd. That's the kind of shit that made s4 imo.
And to list them out, Minute, obviously, just posted that video and it's looking like his ideology has solidified into basically what he said that one day early season when Zam asked him his goals MINUTE: "I want two things. I want fun. And I want heartsâÂ
And backing it up with the theme of the whole video of reconciliation with Clown, and Clown having his own growth moment realizing lifesteal without teammates is really lonely. And that both of them loved hanging out in the finale.
Minute isn't one to be perfectly good, but he isn't one to crave after the evil. He wants fun. With hearts. Friendship and redstone machines and some cool fights and small heavy hitting lore moments.
But destroying spawn, using exploits; that's not him.
But he gets blinded with the goal of hearts, loosing sight on the having fun. Oh my goodness seeing the clip again of him killing Rekrap when Rek was so clearly excited, how much time there was between Rek's excitement and when Minute loaded the cannon. Only realizing after that he regretted it. Offt stab me in the heart bro.
And 4c. In January he said âI feel like deep down i don't trust anyone completely, but i feel like to an extent i choose to trust people anyway. Because on lifesteal i feel like i have more joy of putting myself in those positions of trust because by the end of it you get to see peopleâs real charactersâ. And he did that with PRISMS, right until the end though it was a bit scuffed with him not being in the country. And he did it with the tunnel rats. But he will always be the player who puts his trust in others just to see what might happen down the line.
And Jumper, settling quite nicely into the role of psychological tormenter. Like need I say more.
By the end of their second season each one has staked a claim in what they are on lifesteal.
And then Wemmbu, since he banned himself off mid season 6, I count that as completing his first season, since he was added mid season 5. so he begins his second in s7.
Pentar was also mid season s5, so he's at 1.5 seasons and I think we're getting a really interesting look into his mind. I mean for goodness sake did anyone else watch the SB mace video and see him offer Ecorridor as his payment for the mace. What the fuck is wrong with him. But like... no, i don't have thoughts haha. I love him. Taking a separate plot point with Zam and presenting it to SB. like he's too ridiculous /pos I'll probably need 3 full seasons before I understand Pentar.
And then there's Squiddo, once again running the ring of a handmade hacked client, searching and testing and finding exploits. And in the end embracing it to cause chaos, but not necessarily the end of the season. She's also at 1.5 seasons, and I'm so intrigued where they'll go. She's definitely more teammate focused (lol) and oriented to silly things over anything else.
But then to go down memory lane, like Spoke was saying, his season 2 had him doing everything for his team but in the end he found himself in ending the server.
Planet was added s2, but only logged on at the end, so s3 was his first full season, and s4 his second. In both you see an embracing of being a chungus, 3ht, girl talk, changing the trajectory of player's lives through talking. There was so much subtle talking, so much passion for content that is effective. That changed s5, until he banned himself in the Abyss, and then changed back in s6.
Bacon was added halfway through s3, and you can see how by halfway through s4, which he talked about earlier this season, was the time when he got really really invested into lifesteal and started caring, like, a lot. Bro got passionate about the wormhole. But then it wasn't until season 5 that we really saw Bacon become Bacon, when he really started being the critiquer of plots and did his first patented do my tasks plots, when he got passionate about players caring about the server and and wanting to log on and putting in so much effort to make it happen.
Zam's second season was s3. Running from the PrinceZam Empire to Cleansers to the iconic season 3 finale with Spoke. Establishing he's the one who will repair spawn when nobody else does. Accidentally falling into being the hero and never giving up no matter what.
Rek's second season was also s3 which is when his trap escaping and paranoia really kicked off, as well as his willingness to be involved regardless of the moral tilt of his teammates (the cleansing/decimation). He just has a tilt of wholesome chaos that is very rekrap.
ok so eventually we get too into nuance based on player activity and if they skipped a season or not ect ect. but i love this trend. I love thinking about what shaped the lifestealers into what they are now, i love watching them grow and change. Normally in like normal tv/movie content I'm one to love an origin story, whatever the first movie is in a series or the first season of a show. But on lifesteal it genuinely gets better the longer they're online.
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Iâm so sorry but my ass will NEVER shut up about how the writers came up with an honestly GOOD conflict with the Binary Bros in Part One, only to immediately drop everything that made it interesting in Part Two :-:
Putting my rant under the cut bc idk whoâs gonna wanna hear this yapfest
Like, my biggest gripe is how they had Demetri bring up The Arm during his and Hawkâs fight for the flag, only to never mention it again. When he brought it up, a lot of people, including myself, thought that Part Two would probably explore that repressed hurt a little more. Because surely the writers wouldnât write that into the script if they had no use for it!! Right? RIGHT???? (they did, in fact, end up not using it)
They couldâve used their conflict to make them have a very needed conversation about everything that happened between them in Seasons 2 and 3, because itâs very clear that they never properly addressed that, but they didnât. Instead, their conflict was handled in what was probably the worst way it couldâve been.
They kept adding on all these new arguments for them to have, all of which were petty as shit and I could not care less for. The cheating plot especially gets me pissed because though Iâm a firm believer that Demetri and Yasmine are both raging faggots, the writers arenât and have been writing Demetri as genuinely being all over her, and that Demetri would NEVER cheat on her (he literally calls her his goddess like nuh uh heâs not a cheater on my soul).
And not only that, but everything they did had NO VALUE!!! All their âargumentsâ had no substance, especially since they werenât even really fighting!! Wdym Demetri was supposedly extremely pissed at Hawk, but then theyâre sitting together like normal at the bar? Wdym theyâre suddenly ganging up on Kenny together?? IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!
Speaking of the Kenny thing, it directly contradicts Demetriâs character for him to be suspicious of Kenny. He was suspicious of him because he immediately forgave Devon for the laxatives, but he did that EXACT SAME THING in Season 3!! And his was worse!! He immediately forgave Hawk for months of torment and for BREAKING HIS ARM!!!! I mean, the writers COULD HAVE used that as an opportunity to have him actually reflect on that and ask himself why he decided to be so forgiving if heâs suspicious of Kenny for doing so, but guess what? THEY DIDNâT!!!!!
Hawkâs line to Demetri telling him to not do shitty things if he didnât wanna face consequences is also extremely contradictory, considering the fact that heâs done some of the most shitty things out of all the teens on the show!! ESPECIALLY TO THE GUY HE WAS SAYING THAT LINE TO!!!!! Hawk did a bunch of shitty things to Demetri, but he never faced any consequences for them! He faced consequences for betraying Cobra Kai mid-house-fight through them shaving his mohawk, and he faced consequences for being a general asshole through him being an outcast in the beginning of Season 4, but he never faced any consequences SPECIFICALLY for what he put Demetri through. Again, the writers COULD HAVE used it for some reflection, BUT THEY DIDNâT!!!! GOSH!!!!!
Their conflict this season was SOLELY a plot device to make them uncoordinated and therefore bad at fighting because the writers knew that if they were coordinated then they wouldâve been slamming all those other wack ass dojos from the beginning. That was it. Both characters came out largely unchanged, if not worse, than before.
The locker room make-up scene was good, but it irks me when I remember that none of their REAL problems were solved by it. I start tweaking out when I remember that theyâre still never gonna be able to actually talk about their issues. Like wdym itâs canon that Demetri still has some kind of repressed hurt over having his arm broken but is never gonna actually address it :(( the dick CANNOT be that good for him to keep forgiving and forgetting im begging đđ
TLDR: Iâm tweaking out way too much over fictional gay people
#Iâm still tweaking out about this#this probably doesnât even make any sense but I donât care#WHY bring up the arm if they arenât gonna bring it up again like what was the point genuinely#it feels like them in Part One and them in Part Two were written by entirely different people#hashbrown let demetri get mad at hawk/eli for everything he did to him 2024#hashbrown let him have trauma over the time his bestie held him down and snapped his arm in half 2024#binary boyfriends#hawkmetri#demetri alexopoulos#eli moskowitz#cobra kai#ck
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I think some ppl forget that byler not being endgame would be the greatest waste of time EVER, specially for Willâs arc. Now let me explain.
Ofc Will is one of the most (if not the most) complex character of the show, his connection to the upside down is essential for the plot and in s5 weâll discover many more things. His character is not defined by his sexuality only, ofc, but it is an important thing, specifically if weâre talking about the 80âs. Which leads us to the main point of this post: his love interest.
Him being the only character who hasnât had any love interest/crush, or that actually avoids talking about love is something that they remind us every season.
S1: didnât care that the pretty girl (donât remember her name srry) was crying at his funeral.
- also, foreshadowing that he might be gay (lonnie called him slurs, the bullies at school doing the sameâŠ)
S2: he didnât want to dance with the girl at the SB
S3: âitâs not my fault you donât like girlsâ âiâm not gonna fall in loveâŠâ
S4: âi think thereâs someone he likesâ
But we never get an actual answer. What we expect at the end of the show is seeing him with someone, to be in love, to show that he can also find someone to love just like everyone.
Him being gay adds more depth to his character, bc now we know why he wasnât interested in girls at all, and also why heâs so scared to fall in love: bc it would be with a man, and he knows he wouldnât be accepted.
The Duffers choosing Mike to be not only his love interest, but THE ONLY ONE, is a wild take. Itâs not a simple crush.. itâs pure LOVE, heâs been in love for years. They couldâve chosen anyone, ANYONE, but they wanted Mike to play that part. Now tell me, why would they do that if it would be a simple âno, i dont like u back lmao, i care ab my gfâ at the end? Why would they choose to waste 1 out of the 2 queer charactersâ love story?
âItâs so vecna has something to torment him withâ thatâs one of the most stupid shit iâve ever heard.
Vecna has plenty of things to torment him with: his ab*siv3 dad, the bullying heâs dealt with since he was a kid, everything he went through in the UD, him being gay, etc etc
They couldâve kept it platonic: will doesnât want vecna to âtellâ mike heâs gay bc thatâs his best friend and he doesnât want him to hate him for that. Or simply ANYONE ELSE. Mike didnât have to be part of that trauma yk.
They couldâve added a character to be his love interest, maybe in s3, then a little scene with him in s4 to remind us that heâll be present in s5 and then thatâs it, happy ending.
Why did they choose to write mileven in such a poor way compared to other canon ships in the show, and on the other hand give us emotional, tender and intimate moments with byler if they didnât intend to make them endgame?
When you make scenes be so easily misinterpreted you are not being clear. If mileven was clearly endgame there would be no âship warâ, bc it would be obvious. The reason why there are plenty of analysis and byler proof is bc they wanted us to notice those things. Bc guess what: if we have proof is bc there is something to prove.
They wouldâve avoided any type of hint that could lead us to believe that Mike could be in love with him as well, or that heâs very queer coded.
Things like âthe closetâ (official soundtrack), the one way sign, him looking at willâs lips constantly, and other things, all that would be GONE.
Plus, they would wanna promote mileven and make us believe that they are THE main couple. For example, that final take? Why tf are will and mike together, alongside with other two canon couples, and then El at the front? Why isnât Mike with her? They will defeat the evil with the power of love, right? Theyâll be the powerful couple of the show⊠right? Doesnât seem like it.
If Will gets rejected, not only everything theyâve been building since the beginning will be for absolutely NOTHING, but also things will be even WORSE than before.
Will, after getting rejected by Mike, will not be able to even look at him in the eyes. Not only he got rejected, not only Mike is his best friend, but also heâs a BOY. So, not only he confessed his feelings which âare not mutualâ but also he just came out of the closet. How great is that? Even if they tried to play it cool afterwards I know that Will would be way too embarrassed to ignore it, so they would end up not talking to each other.
So not only they wasted a great part of Willâs character but also one of the main friendships of the show. All for what? To keep on going with mileven? To use a queer characterâs feelings for their own good? After making so many people get bored of it or losing hope after season 4? After letting us see that she works better on herself without mike? What kind of shitty promo is this?
To sum up, byler/mikeâs internalized homophobia would make Mikeâs character even deeper and would explain some things that heâs done/said. If it wasnât that and he was just being an idiot, then wow, they definitely nailed itâŠâŠ..
#hope this clears someoneâs byler doubt#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#byler nation#stranger things#st5#byler endgame
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**OBX SPOILERS**
Can we talk about the fact that Obx4 is not about good plot, writing or character based story. It's about shock value and fan service.
JJ Maybank, who literally hasn't had a moment of happiness in the 4th season, gets killed by the end so that were shocked and hooked for the next season.
We get one shot of him dead, his friends barely even crying and them BOOM gets buried in the fucking ground in the place that's not even his home, literally plopped into the fucking ground like a piece of rock. Audiences don't even get time to process his random ass death and suddenly John Bs stupid ass monologue shows the flashbacks of JJ and how he was a good friend and all that shit.
If people who WROTE this fucking show can't understand that JJs character goes FAR beyond just being a good friend, then I guess I'm not even surprised by the end.
We were CONSTANTLY shown aspects of JJ that in some other universe would've been properly explored. He's clutches his chest constantly, perhaps suggesting he's got a heart thing or breathing difficulty, his home life is shit and not a single adult gives a fuck. John B is practically stalked by the CPS in season 1, but no one bat's an eye at the fact that Luke abuses JJ. He's got dyslexia and kleptomania which is only ever played for laughs meanwhile Cleos kleptomania is regarded as a serious thing she had to do to survive. He can never sit still and constantly switches back and forth, obviously ADHD coded. Whenever gang argued before, JJ used to pace around and put hands over his ears suggesting he has some bits of PTSD from unstable home environment.
All of THAT exists and is true about JJ yet in John B fucking monologue he's reduced to just "a good friend" ????
Literally NOTHING of his trauma is explored or even touched upon aside from that bit in season 1. NO ONES trauma is explored except for Sarah's (no hate to her) and John Bs.
Fuckin bs.
Imagine being given up by your dad (who killed your mother btw) to a morally questionable man such as Luke, who then proceeds to beat you and emotionally manipulate and torment your for years, neglecting you and abusing you. To then suddenly being told you're not actually his and that all that beating and abuse COULD'VE been avoided had someone actually wanted you. Then you meet the said biological father only for him to lie to you, manipulate you, gaslight you, scam you, attempt to kill you once and then fucking succeed in killing you..... The amount of disrespect for JJs character.
Fuckin Luke, the biggest abuser is JJs story is alive and well and FUCKING JAIL FREE??? WHILE JJ IS IN THE GROUND???
The angry faces of others and Kiaras "revenge" implies that season 5 will be about seeking revenge and sinking further into darkness in order to right the wrongs of JJs murder. But guess what?? Sarah's pregnant. That storyline itself is basically ensuring that happy ending is in sight. For basically all of them, because as Kie said: takes a village (to raise a baby). Motherly vibes are gonna spread their positive energy and then they'll heal and John B will most likely give another boring ass monologue about how People die but they also live and heal and shit and how everybody deserves happiness with shots of the gang raising the kid and riding off into the sunset....
Guess who fucking deserved happy ending THE MOST out of all of them???
JJ fucking Maybank.
Every season of obx focuses on on Pogue. 1.- John B, 2.-Pope, 3.- Kie. Imagine waiting for your own season only for your character to constantly be dealt the worst of cards, be perpetually disregarded and have shit go from worse to worse to in the end fucking die randomly???? If I was Rudy Pankow I'd fuckin sue.
The shit that pisses me off the most is that it's so painfully obvious that Rafe will inevitably get a redemption arc and his own happy ending, possibly even with Kie since people love to ship her with a man who's a) mentally and emotionally not at all alright b) is a murderer who never served his time and got one of her friends framed for it causing him to literally be chased out of his own home for crime he did not commit while he was still a minor c) has tried to kill her d) has tried to kill her best fucking friend, who is his own fucking sister
Infatuation with sociopath men in media HAS to stop. But it most likely will not stop any time soon and JJ is yet another victim of shipping wars.
I can't even read stupid ass fanfics anymore because I'll always remember that JJ is not alive in the Canon anymore.
Who ever gave the green light in the making of the end of season 4, sincerely and disrespectfully, I fucking hate you.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
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My honest opinion on the WWDITS finale (yes I know itâs late but hear me out through my tedious essay on this.)
It genuinely suffered from bad writing. This final season had so much potential to be great much like the ones that came before, but it absolutely flunked on it. Everything else in this season had great quirky; the costumes, the lighting, and the set. But as the seasonâs writing was truly introduced, I noticed it didnât really have that same atmosphere anymore. The jokes felt stale and too planned, while others seemed to appear out of nowhere and cause chaos for the storyline. Jerry and the monster were a good add-in joke, and introducing Laszloâs father aswell was great. But how these characters were entered left a huge writing problem. They created a huge Checkovâs (I think thatâs how you spell it?) gun. They introduced huge plot pointâs that couldâve been executed carefully enough to be reasonable with the audience. And there are a couple Iâd like to name.
Seanâs death; throughout season 6 we hear about Sean having a huge decline in his mental and physical health. This is present through his two heart attacks, being fired from his job, and seeming incapable, of much. But when it came to a point where people began to worry about Seanâs health and such, his last scene is him talking about the people who have pissed in his toilets. Itâs very on cue for Sean⊠but it feels wrong. How Sean is so carefully cured to die, then they just drop it.
Nandermo; Nandermo has been an ongoing thing since the start of the series. A ship between Nandor and Guillermo where one finds themselves in pure love while the other refuses to admit their feelings and kinda just complains. Itâs a very popular ship dynamic in communities and I feel WWDITS is no different. But for the final scene of them together, it expands on more plot points instead of answering them. Will they be lovers? Or just friends? Or will they grow to hate each other? None of it is answered. We just get them sitting in a coffin together and falling down a big ass hole.
Rodrick Cravensworth (I donât know if thatâs properly spelt but oh well.); Lord Rodrick Cravensworth was an ASS of a character. The writing for him was great, and his story tells us so much of Laszloâs childhood. Heâs really meant to agitate you through the screen, and does so wonderfully. But yet, in his finale scene we only see him being locked up in a safe with a funko pop that looks exactly like him. I see this as a huge plot point that shouldnât have been left out so easily. If they decide in 1, 2, 5, 10, 15 or beyond years to do another movie about our favourite vampires from Staten Island, it should include Rodrick again, just for closer. (If he possessed the doll and broke out of the safe or some shit.)
Dadzlo; Dadzlo is a word used by fans in the WWDITS community to assess Laszloâs time as a father for Colin Robinson. This was a huge plot point in WWDITS season 4, but is never really expanded on since then (Other than the brief mentions of it.) But when we s6 (ep6? I canât remember) We see more hints and mentions of the two. This whole thing is a huge mess of a plot. Colin refusing to acknowledge that Laszlo raised him, while Laz is left tormented by his inner turmoil. This whole thing was left unresolved, which left it to only be a couple-line joke mostly. I hate this because I personally enjoyed Dadzlo a lot in the season and was disappointed without the denouement of it.
Nadjaâs lack of positive female interaction; Nadja is Pansexual, weâre all aware of that. But throughout the entirety of WWDITS we almost never see her have a positive female interaction (other than Jenna, and even then it was pretty bad.) Why havenât we seen her ever have any interest in another female character? Itâs a horrid battle of bad writing and fear. A popular ship, Ladja, romanticizes Nadja and The Guide together. I personally like this ship, showing how Nadja and the guide SHOULDâVE needed up instead of being a one-sided friendship. But it actually pisses me off to see that yet again, their just in a crush x âwho the hell are you?â kind of relationship.
The finale; writing this in general just makes my blood actually fucking boil. The season was so bad, and how they ended it was even worse. No tying of lose ends, no use of Checkovâs gun, and not even a resolve to ships. The episode was mainly Guillermo centred, which is kinda boring. There are plenty of episodes already within the series that have Guillermo in every plot line, and having the finale be one of those was horrid. The other characters within the finale felt more like props instead of supporting characters. And of course we had âWeâll meet againâ as the song to end it off. Iâm not saying itâs a bad song, Iâm just saying itâs overused in media. A lot of endings in television shows from what Iâve seen include that song, a very notable one being Gravity falls. I know itâs hard to find appropriate music for the ending of a series, but do I really have to hear that same one over, and over, and over? Like, grab Al Bowleyâs âHeartachesâ or something but just find something original.
Iâm super pissed about this, and I could go on and on about the things I hated about this series finale, but Iâm just going to let you guys get a taste of how much I hated s6
Like, god how hard is it to write an ending? Do the fans have to do it all themselves? The whole point of a proper ending is to find a way that makes most of the fans of it happy, not suffocating us with bad writing. I hate what theyâve done to this television show, I really do.
I hope you enjoyed my energy vampire-like rant. Now goodnight :3
#wwdits#nadja of antipaxos#nandor the relentless#guillermo de la cruz#laszlo cravensworth#sean rinaldi#the guide wwdits#shitty writing#wtf were they thinking when they write this?#If I see one more person compliment this series finale Iâm going to jump from my window
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What Is Wolf 359 anyway ? Is it like a podcast ? And could you tell me all your favorite parts about it in great detail because it sounds really interesting and I trust your opinion :]
sits down across the table from you and slams a briefcase on the table so heavy it breaks it in half. Hey.
Wolf 359 is an audio podcast that came out in 2014. It opens up by asking the question âWould that be fucked up or what?â and its answers are really funny until they arenât. Classic case of the funny story slowly becoming painfully real and dangerous for the protagonists.
The basics of the plot is a crew of three people plus their space stationâs AI are sent to orbit a star lightyears away from earth by some totally suspicious corporation. The show introduces you right in the middle of the mission, when everyoneâs already been out there for months, so theyâve sort of abandoned decorum for gassing each other with chemicals as a solution for workplace discourse. I will put my in depth thoughts under a cut because frankly, I would very very much like you to check out this podcast, because I like it a lot and want to see more people talking about it. Stick through at least season one and the beginning of season 2, itâs about a dozen episodes and itâs a quick listen to help you decide if you want to keep checking it out.
ok so my favorite things about it (non spoilers edition.)
-Really solidly written female characters. Like itâs genuinely enjoyable how much they share the same narrative weight as the male characters especially for a 2014 podcast.
-Character focused podcast đ«¶đ«¶đ«¶đ«¶đ«¶ I love a story that is first and foremost about dissecting characters and their actions and I think Wolf 359 excels in this section of its writing. Doug Eiffel is a wonderful adventure in finding out what happens when a comedic relief character is confronted with being more than just his archetype.
-Ai storyline. Do you like robots? You should like my friend Hera. Everything happens to her. She sees everything all of the time, she knows so much more than you do, and she is physically unable to insult you to your face but I think she should do it anyways. I like. Her. She gets to get up to weird gay people stuff with a character that shows up later on and it leaves her changed in so many ways.
-Fucked up little scientist that I like. Heâs Russian and you should listen to the podcast for the sole experience of comparing his voice in ep 1 to any ep in season 3. Itâs funny.
ok specifics under the cut if you dare to hear my detailed thoughts before listening to the podcast
-Doug Eiffelâs character is genuinely one of the most interesting things to me. I talked about it in an older textpost but I love how Wolf 359 is a media not unfamiliar with immoral and nuanced characters and chooses to make sure that applies to not just its antagonists. The reveal in season 3 that he was a dad? And he like? Brutally impacted his kids life forever because of His Own shitty mistakes? And now he has to deal with that forever? Big. Massive even. Also part of the reason I have such a gripe with the finale of the show but itâs okay I think the show itself is still really worth it in spite of my mixed feelings on season 4.
-Isabel. ISABEEEEEEL. Isabel Lovelace is really good and the entirety of minisode 4 (I believe itâs 4?) kills me dead. Sheâs died not once, but twice! And lived! Sheâs tormented! Sheâs miserable! Sheâs the final girl! sheâs a clone! Sheâs the original! I need to finish my relisten so I can get as weird about her as possible because fuck me does she have a fascinating storyline.
-That fuckass scientist. Hilbert. Heart. I can and have gone into depth about him before because I hate him. Heâs like, peak for me vis a vis Wolf 359 and character dissection. Hes a horrible horrible man but the way he justifies his actions and how he views himself and what exactly his apathy is driven by fascinates me. This man died at 6 years old and has spent the rest of his life dragging the dead weight of his own corpse around while he works toward his unreasonable goals. I love him.
-Lovelace and Hilbert have a shared connection from before canon that makes me insane in a way I literally cannot describe. Type of dynamic that makes you so fucking nuts that I donât just need you to hear me I need someone to grab at my brain and match my freak. I need more people to talk about them. They were friends and then they were enemies and also they understand each other more than anyone else. He killed her entire crew, but heâs the only member of her crew thatâs left. Heâs everything she lost and heâs all she has. She came back to tell him he isnât allowed to forget what he did this time. They haunt each other. Blow them up now.
-Marcus Cutter is a deeply unsettling little man and I find him fascinating.
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Kat's "I could fix her" Arcane season 2 post Part 1:
Yeah we're skipping straight past the recap/reflections on what this show actually was into my 'just let me into the writers room' post because I'm currently tormented by, ironically, what could have been
What's funny is the characters didn't even end up doomed by the narrative because of their League of Legends fates!! They killed a whole bunch of champions! They just Did All That anyway.
As I was saying in previous posts, the season was overstuffed. I genuinely liked some of the music video portions lol, but there was just so much going on.
I still would put Mel in a Magic Coma for the entire season and spin out her Black Rose plot for a third season or new spinoff (it seems like there will be one anyway). Her storyline as is felt like an afterthought and wasn't fully explained. Am I supposed to know the Black Rose lady? I don't. Being crammed in does her a disservice; I'd rather give her room to breathe. This would create a stronger absent mother/absent daughter bond between Ambessa and Caitlyn, and Caitlyn could see Ambessa claiming to do things for her daughter's sake even though it's obviously stuff Mel would never approve of, and that could force Caitlyn to reflect on how her mother wouldn't approve of the actions she's taking allegedly for her sake. That could sell Caitlyn's immediately re-siding with Vi better.
This may be a very hot take, but I didn't really like the werewolf Vander plotline. My understanding is he's a LoL champion, but he felt particularly cartoonish even in an increasingly cartoonish season, and just kept retreading the same ground. Vander's dead. :( He's alive! :) He's dead again. :( Obviously the cycles are part of the point, and he represents how Vander's death is this monstrous always dying never at rest force between the sisters tying them together and strangling them at the same time, but I'd cut it. Have Vi seek Jinx out after the prison break because she can't believe her sister did that, have Jinx admit she only did it to save one girl, and they reflect on how Vander also did stuff just for kids versus ideals. Make Vi reflect on how her little jaunt with Jayce killed a kid, and here Jinx is saving one, and people are complicated. Still not clear on how Jinx has no negative effects from Shimmer, so give her a few and that can be their new reason for going to Viktor's commune. Ambessa can hear about his new weird magitech without needing a werewolf to pique her interest.
Obviously this raises of the question of what Vi and Jinx are doing in the finale, and while I don't think every character needs a big damn fight scene, they can back up Caitlyn versus Ambessa since Mel won't be there, which also forces them to deal with the Vi-Caitlyn-Jinx tension. IDK if there's a way to have Jinx ambiguously blow herself up in that scenario but here's a thought, maybe the most prominently disabled characters don't all need to die and/or commit suicide? More on that later. Ambessa is subdued, not dead, though, so she and Mel can talk later.
Finally (for this post) I already expressed my frustration that the key class conflict so present in the first season and first half of the second gets mostly shoved under the rug because there's a new enemy to fight. Yes, that's often used as a distraction irl, but that's not a *good* thing. Sevika's sitting at the councilor's table at the end of the show. Who negotiated that? Caitlyn? If we absolutely must go the direction of a big damn final battle, I want to see that conversation and all of the pain and distrust that must've come up during it.
That's the kid gloves version. If I was being aggressive - and I would be - I'd have the fighting totally destroy Piltover with arcane corruption, and now everyone from Piltover has to live in the Undercity/Zaun as refugees. Forget Sevika sitting down at the Piltover table as the new councilors glare at her. Now the Piltover councilors are having to sit awkwardly down at a table with Sevika and Ekko's number 2. (Or Ekko. What is he doing besides sitting sadly on that roof. Is he involved in governance. Is his tree ok.) Piltover suffocated Zaun for years with their industrial runoff. Now they're choking to death on their own magical industrial waste, and they're going to have to learn to live like everybody else.
I am still parsing the whole Viktor, Jayce, and disability thing since as you know that's one of the elements that fascinates me most about this show (the new improved crunchy ableism even as they genuinely try to explore something interesting) so I will be typing a separate post about that, probably thinking through it as I write. Stay tuned.
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i think Helaena can be autistic but also a happy and joyful girl , autism â depression. the way the portrayed the only neurodivergent character on screen as unstable, shunned depressed, and with no importance to the plot feel very ableist and weird , but then they're the ones who made the guy with a foot disability a feet fetishist đ«
Hi OP, finally answering this because the trailer dropped and still the only Helaena shots we have are from her Jaehaerys' funeral. There is also one still photo of her. If you haven't seen it, here she is, apparently sewing the funeral shroud for her little boy:
So it seems like season 2 is going to continue on this trajectory for Helaena as a character who exists in order to suffer beautifully.
Don't get me wrong. I am glad that the show is going to wring the full emotional effect from Blood and Cheese, not just shock value. The audience will feel the real horror of a six year old child brutally murdered in his own home and the psychological torment of Helaena. It should be terrible, it should be devastating, and I hope they do not pull any punches.
What's disappointing about how the show has handled Helaena is that they didn't really put any effort into building up her character before her tragedy. It's all well and good that she likes bugs and she's touch averse, but what are her opinions? Who is she closest to? How did she react to becoming a mother so young? To what extent does she understand her visions? What does she value? She can be happy and cheerful, or she can be frustrated and angry, and hell, she can be depressed too, but I need to know why. It's telling that I can describe the basic internal motivations for each of the male children, including Luke who was a glorified plot device, but I cannot for Helaena. Aegon wants to feel loved, Jace wants to prove he's as worthy as any trueborn heir, Aemond wants what his brother has, Luke wants to be free from his family's expectations. Helaena? Fuck if I know. I guess she wants not to die horribly.
The ableism is an issue. F&B is full of women who were deemed "simple" -- Gael, Daella, Jaehaera-- without being given much else to define them, and HotD adds another (there's something, I think, to the way the "simple" Targaryens are always women and how disability kind of used as a way to remove them from the narrative and shunt them aside, often tragically). And while it's great to see an autistic person represented on screen, the show consistently has an issue with treating representation as characterization. "Autistic girl who likes bugs" is not a personality. Autistic people, (even those with horrifying prophesies I assume), do have hopes and dreams and feelings about things. The one peek we get into Helaena's life is at the in episode 8 when she roasts Aegon and even that scene is open to interpretation (and gets taken wildly out of context). Now, I can read a lot into the actor performances, but ultimately, lines that could have given a glimpse Helaena personality were cut. It's as if they're afraid that if they give her an opinion on anything she would lose that (frankly kind of infantilizing) "pure cinnamon roll too good for this world" "i would die for her" sympathy from people who are not inclined to be sympathetic for her family as a whole.
(And anon, you're right about Larys. And let me say, turning Larys' clubfoot into the punchline of an OnlyFeet joke also does not inspire confidence that they'll handle Aegon II's eventual disability with any sensitivity either, especially when Mushroom's accounts of his last few months are incredibly mean spirited. We need to start that discourse now so they get the memo).
Sadly, I don't think the show really has any intention of course correcting with Helaena in season 2. I imagine at most we'll have her try to warn Aegon and/or Aemond about Blood & Cheese but they won't understand her warning, and then this will be a vehicle to further their guilt and grief. And while we do need to see Aegon's guilt and his grief, I also want to know if Helaena blames herself, if she wishes they'd run away when they had the chance, if she thinks Aegon could have done something, if she is angry at Aemond for killing Luke, if she wants revenge. I do think, with the public funeral for Jaehaerys, they are going to show that the smallfolk are fond of Helaena, and hopefully that will be expanded upon this season and in season 3 because her death is the catalyst for the revolt that sees Rhaenyra driven from the city, and we should understand why her death has such an impact before she actually dies.
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YABANI / ASI & ALAZ SEASON 2 THOUGHTS
It's been months since I wrote here: a very busy real life schedule, a finger injury, not any tv show that piqued my interest caused me not to come here but escapism is very much needed right now. And Yabani is like that your old friend you know you should stay away but as long as it's there, you don't have power to run away.
I seriously didn't expect much from the show considering what we've got so far. Also I really understand the difficulty the new head writer has to live. She took over a wreck, nothing they would write could save the show. So that's why I just watch Asi and Alaz and care about only them. They still make me emotional even though their scenes last only like 5 minutes. Yeah yeah, the new plots, the new characters etc. These are just excuses, because they already have a good, exciting story potential yet the writers choose to ignore it. Once again.
For example, the new bearded guy and the evil lady. You know those old casettes which have two sides: A and B. A side is always aimed to give you the best tracks and as for B, it kind of exists only to fill the casette. To me, no matter how hard the writers try to make them look like an A side track they are just so useless and end up B side. I don't even want to know what their stories are.
The other problem, just for the rating, Asi's long lost family turned out to be a bunch of lunatics. No need to say they're the second B side track for me to skip endlessly.
I am not surprised anymore, I just want to express my frustration.
So let's take a look at our problematic couple.
The things I like:
The fact that he has never moved on.
It's kind of realistic. He's an extreme character, always going back and forth over two opposite edges, and turning any emotion into an obsession level of craziness. Be it love or hatred.
So, it's not surprising to see him like this, desperate, aimless, lost and tired.
The guy has never had a life purpose, not even in season 1. His journey is not about finding himself or his potential etc. He seeks love and wants to be loved. So the first conflict was about the lack of parental love, then Asi (he even chose her over his brother, I mean, it should give you an idea)âŠand now it's also about his baby.
If the story gives me a wrecked man, I would like to see a consistent behavior. Otherwise all scenes about how lost he is wouldn't matter.
To avoid this kind of problem, the confrontation between Alaz and Asi shouldn't have been his dream. It MUST have been the real one.
Because it would make sense.
Because no effing one could hold himself back after going through a never ending torment for these two years.
Because the actor killed it.
I am not good Asi. Not at all. Every day I've thought this moment. If I found you, If I saw you what would I say? There's not even a single moment that I don't regret, Asi. We could have been so happy. If we had a babyâŠI always thought it would be a girl. We could have named her Ece. Then we, three of us, would set off by a caravan. You'd sing and I'd play the guitar. Maybe she wouldn't have a perfect life but would be so happy. Because we would love her so much. Because we loved each other so much. And I still love you so much. PleaseâŠplease, forgive me. I can't do without you. Please don't give up on me.
The fact that he realised he could be a good father because he loves the mother of his child and she loves him back, because he could give all his love to their kid and make him/her feel loved. The fact that he finally realised they have what his parents lack: a mutual love which could make the child literally a love child (he knows this makes a difference) and of course caring about the kid you make, putting his/her needs first.
And he probably came to understand why Asi wanted to keep the child: The need for having a family which he felt like he lost two years ago.
This kind of desperation is so hard to come by on tvs right now. And let me tell you, I've been watching tr dramas for almost 25 years and this is one of the most intense scenes I've ever seen. So raw and so strong.
His soul is on his knees, he wears his heart on his sleeves, he is dying to find out if he has a second chance. He looks like a candle burning and perishing slowly.
However God knows for what reason they chose to keep this scene only in his mind and gave us this:
You still love me.
Sometimes I feel like he has a serious personality disorder. Look, he kind of slayed this too, however it didn't go over well especially after 37th episode.
Maybe I am right maybe he's really unstable, I mean look at him. He has this selfish side that doesn't seem to get healed even after 2 years. He loves being loved, he enjoys seeing being wanted, he has this telling look which says he's glad that she can't move on either no matter how painful it's for her.
Well, he's kind of saying he wants her back and is ready to do anything for it but the scenes are so short which makes the effect weak.
STILL.
They have an effect on me anyway.
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