#sanders sides critical

[whereisstevethestove]

Look at me.

Yes you. Look at me.

We’re unfollowing Thomas Sanders in 2025. Not now, but next year on the dot. I want you to yell “Happy New Year” and stop giving support to Thomas.

Not only has Thomas consistently failed to deliver on the promised Sanders Sides season finale, he’s generally not a good person to be offering your support to. From siccing fans after people who slightly criticize him to firing artists without warning while continuing to sell their work and profiting from it. From making you, the consumer, pay to write his content to using AI in this thumbnails, the list just goes on and on.

The solution is clear.

Stop following Thomas Sanders in 2025.

TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, Tumblr, Instagram.

Unsubscribe to his Patreon, stop giving someone your money when all he cares about is the next check.

Thomas will never reveal the “four part finale” because he never started it. There are concepts of a finale and you don’t have to cater to that. Show him you won’t follow a liar and maybe there’ll be results.

But I doubt it. Because if there’s been no finale for over four years, a mass unfollowing campaign won’t change that.

[ts-critsfander]

I have seen multiple posts from fanders saying "Thomas doesn't deserve all the hate." To which I have to say-GET A GRIP AND ACTUALLY LEARN WHAT HE'S DONE.

Underpaid Brei

Brei was the main person who designed merch yet received no royalties until recently. To quote her "royalties were something I requested for several years while working there and was consistently told no." Thomas tried to cover the whole thing up and just said she wasn't going to be on the team anymore. As of now he hasn't addressed this.

Refuses to Communicate

Thomas has delayed the Sanders Sides finale for years now. He said it would come out in 2023 and the public received 0 updates until December 27th where he said the year just didn't work out for him. Even now the non finale episode has been delayed for months now and only Patreon receives updates that aren't even regular. They just drop at random dates weeks or months apart.

Sent Fans After People

On numerous occasions Thomas has responded to critiques from random accounts. On multiple occasions he's directly responded to people on X just saying they miss Sanders Sides or posts that aren't even critiques. A couple of months ago he posted a private message from a person on Instagram of them asking something along the lines of "When are you gonna make more Sanders Sides?". Since he posted a screenshot of said message and didn't hide their username in any capacity he made it easy for fans to find their account and DM them. Fanders have a history of sending death threats.

These points aren't just mindless hate. Brei deserved to be properly paid, fans deserve transparently ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY PAY FOR UPDATES/CONTENT, and people deserve to speak their mind without fear of being targeted by a large creator and their fanbase. Don't get me wrong I've seen posts that are just hating or meaningless nitpicking but there's genuine things Thomas deserves to be called out for and held accountable for. He's not your innocent white boy content creator, he's an almost 40 year old man who continues to mistreat people around him no matter their proximity.

[softestvirgil]

Every so often I log in to find out what crazy stuff has been going on around here and oh boy. Thomas is once again in another controversy over how he treats artists he works with. Can’t say I’m shocked but will the guy ever learn?

TLDR: He underpaid Brei Grace for her work on Roleslaying With Roman and then laid her off, only for her not to want to return due to how she was treated.

[shut-up-hope]

personally i have been enjoying seeing thomas get under 100k views on most of his recent uploads. karma’s a bitch when you guilt trip others especially your fand, delay a finale of your main series for 4 years and underpay your employees.

[phantominzie]

Ranting about TSS

I would like to start by saying, yes, I am fully aware I don't post fandom rants very often (ESPECIALLY SASI). However, I've been feeling rather upset over the fandom and Thomas.

I would also like to mention that in no way is this attacking Thomas or any of his writers, hell, not even the fandom itself. I just need to let all of this out.

You're always totally free to skip over this, I know ts crit isn't everyone's cup of tea <3

To start, I am so just...tired? It's been so frustrating waiting for a finale for four fucking years and getting the bait and switch every time Thomas makes a post about 'upcoming Sanders Sides content!'

I understand taking time to work on something so important to cannon, but four years? I can also give him a little leeway for having some staff issues, but it's almost painful to only keep getting the series we love get downgraded so harshly over the years.

Almost all of the sides have been made so two dimensional. At first they felt so fleshed out, so real, and fandom focused their character on one sole trait (not unforgivable but a bit frustrating). Then, I guess Thomas just picked up on fandom and decided 'yeah! I'll just make them two dimensional too!' That's not what we want. And frankly that's never what we wanted. Occasionally, he'll give us breadcrumbs of character development, or show us a sliver of light to what they once were, but it's never the same.

And frankly, I feel bad for having my hopes so high for the finale. Sure it's been taking four years, but that doesn't mean it will be perfect, hell, it might suck. Of course, I will watch it, but I won't be happy about it. About the lies, about the bait and switch, about the constant merch plugs over actual content, about the four incorrect quotes over working on the finale, about the prioritizing of under five minutes long videos that no one will watch anyways.

I love that Thomas is working on things that make him happy, and I don't think I'll ever stop being happy about that, but he needs to take into heart that without content, merch won't sell anyways.

He made a tweet recently that said that we would be getting the finale in an uncertain number of weeks, but based on the past four years I don't even think it will come out at all. If it does, I swear that if we get a merch plug in the finale I'm going to lose my shit.

I want him to see that fandom can't carry itself, and that if he doesn't have that finale have the actually well done makeup we've been begging for, or have our three dimensional characters back, then he won't have a fandom at all.

I'm almost angry that this is my special interest at this point, I'm so let down by the direction the series is probably headed.

I hope that no one takes this the wrong way, and if people leave death threats in my inbox (which has happened to people posting ts crit; no i'm not joking) then trust that you won't be answered. No one is to tag Thomas on this post, and if Thomas even finds this post then heed the words I've said. This isn't a threat to you, and frankly it never was. What is it is the frustrations of a tired and exasperated fan.

I'm sorry if this has rubbed anyone the wrong way, I apologize if it has. I hope this doesn't make people think I'm becoming some TSS hater, I'm really not. But I'm frustrated, and that's normal

Thank you for reading this all the way through if your here, I love you <3

[the-astrophel-system]

i know. I KNOW. it was just meant to be a silly video.

but surely hes fucking with us.

that make up HURTS SO BAD.

thomas please, you're allowed to make good quality content. please for the love of fuck.

WHAT DID YOU DO TO THEM

[let-roman-bite-someone]

btw i really really hope that janus's current characterization, with the wine and sass, is just there for the more light-hearted episodes, and that thomas hasn't forgotten the nuance behind his character.

[prodigal-explorer]

i'm usually not too big on criticizing thomas or sanders sides but i just have to get this off my chest

i HATE how thomas endorses and supports the infantilization of patton. he makes fan-service jokes that woobify patton and go completely against things that have been pre-established in the series just because he knows that fans love to talk about how patton is "their uwu babey boi who can do no wrong".

i feel like thomas can see how much the fandom loves it, so he does it, but it's just so dumb because in a way, infantilizing patton is infantilizing a part of him so therefore it sort of feels like infantilizing himself.

maybe i'm being a little much. it's his series and he can do what he wants! but i don't think it's very good to actively support something that is actually a massive misconception just for the sake of getting more likes and laughs.

this is based off of something @sanderssideswriting that got me thinking so thanks bro for fueling my rant LMAO /g

[halfgood-halfbad-badboy]

Oh my god every time I lot onto this app there’s a new insane take. I can roll my eyes at the Thomas dick suckers who think he’s done absolutely nothing wrong but the fucking nazi headcanons????????? What the fuck????????????

[just-a-little-anxious]

Past me: "Wow! Imagine how cool it would be if the creators of shows would look at the fanbase and listen and make things canon and add some fanon interpretations into the show"

Me now, after witnessing what happened with sanders sides: "Oh god please no. Please keep it separate, please. Don't make the fanon canon i'm begging you-"

[whereisstevethestove]

When that sanders sides hiatus be so long c!thomas changes the layout of his entire apartment

[ts-critsfander]

Thomas not being a writer is fine because not every actor can write, what's not fine is that he refuses to pay writers to the point he HAS PEOPLE PAY HIM TO HELP WRITE CANON EPISODES VIA PATREON. I'm tired of the fandom not calling it what it is. It's not a perk for fans its a crutch for Thomas because he doesn't know what to do with his own property.

It's so frustrating because what do you mean fans that don't understand the characters can write episodes????

Lets go down the list of how the fandom treats the characters.

Patton: Villainize him for existing

Virgil: UwUify him

Roman: Ignore his problems and see him as an egomaniac

Logan: Orange

Janus: See him as just an alcoholic

Remus: Don't understand him and just think he's randomness

I do not want these people writing episodes. FANS SHOULDN'T BE THIS ENTANGLED IN CANON.

[softestvirgil]

thinking about how i was 16 when the last episode came out and now i can go to bars

💀

[shut-up-hope]

if y’all want to watch thomas embarrass himself and get secondhand embarrassment, watch his “taking on the wednesday dance” video (skip to 8:05).

[phantominzie]

Read your ts criticism post and thought I should add - he hasn’t written anything in years. There’s no script even near ready to film.

He’s stringing everyone along and using all monetary support to go clubbing every weekend.

He’s not working on anything else besides shorts and cheap quick content. Ever since the real writers left, he’s done nothing. That’s why nothing that he’s said he’s been working on ever got done. RSWR only got done because he wasn’t the writer, and from the looks of his recent post - he let that writer go.

He literally just wants to profit and party.

oh shit dude.....like fuck. we are fucked as a fandom huh?

like, I've seen his posts about comic con and stuff like that and the more you think about it the sadder it gets. I mean, had he actually written a whole script within six months when he made a post about starting filming?

i mean good God, we prolly aren't even getting this until the end of this year at the earliest (LIKE HE FUCKING PROMISED BTW), it's likely we aren't going to be getting any word of this until next year.

fuuuuuuck.

[casey-complains]

oh fanon is so going to become canon