#sander sides theories

[bagofthoughts]

lets be honest Logan Sanders would 100% listen to The Stupendium.

[chirp-featherfowl]

There's a snake in the Garden of Eden.

(tumblr DEVASTATED the quality. click for the version that is more than 10 pixels 😭)

[loganslowdown4]

Roman: Good GOD—

Logan: How does this make any sense?? HOW?

Virgil: Why do you keep winning? And wILL YOU QUIT POKING ME??

Patton: But I thought we were playing poker? *pokes Virgil again, giggles* Also I have… these cards— *lays them out*

Roman: *slams table* A ROYAL FLUSH?!

Logan: *screams in frustration*

[part-time-zombie]

So, uh... a neat little detail about Janus' makeup.

The side of his face that's normally scaled is the happy one, and the human side of his face is displeased.

Going by the assumption that the scales represent his deceitful nature and that Roman picked out the characters/costumes for all of the sides, is it fair to believe that this shows us how Roman thinks of Janus? That anything happy/nice about him is only a lie?

[sanders-sides-uncorrect-quotes]

I mentioned this in the tags of a post but I want to make it its own post now

Because, theoretically, Virgil is See No Evil (can make the whole room pitch black/control shadows), Janus is Speak No Evil (covers the sides' mouthes and mimics their voices) and Remus is Hear No Evil (can block other sounds out so you can only hear him), then the Orange side might be the less commonly seen fourth monkey, Do No Evil

If this is the case, then perhaps his dark side power will be like him paralysing the other sides or stopping them from sinking in and out

The other sides would still able to see, hear and speak but they're completely unable to move, get away or rise up

I think it'd be cool

[let-roman-bite-someone]

ah, you know what my first thought was when i got to this scene?

when logan started off as the side who tried to approach problems as fairly and open-mindedly as possible, and encouraged thomas to not jump to conclusions or assume ill intent.

but he gets ignored, underestimated and sidelined so often that he himself started giving in to the cognitive distortions.

[emmaishere2243]

This might have been unintentional, but I noticed in the latest incorrect quotes video that in the highlighter quote

Logan (I think) only has orange and yellow marks on his face while Virgil and Roman additionally have purple and red on theirs

The red is a bit similar to the orange so some of the streaks might be red, but the difference just stood out to me

This is probably a stretch, and I am currently procrastinating on an essay in the middle of the night, but after people pointed out the orange stress ball it just caught my attention

If Thomas did do this intentionally, then he is having fun with these teasers

Anyways I’m gonna go write my essay now instead of rewatching Sanders Sides clips-

[clydesavage-thefox147]

I don't think enough fanders are aware of this little piece of evidence, so I'm going to post about it. (Also pardon my nearly 2 months long hiatus, been mentally shitty)

Ever wondered why Janus has that pink blemish around his eye?

So, according to Joan in a past Livestream in late 2019, they confirmed that the pink was actually a scar. Yep. A scar. It makes sense since snakes and no other reptiles have that marking naturally. Apparently, it was added to make it more menacing and scary which honestly it did work at the time of his introduction, if you remember how scared people were of him then.

Initially, they weren't going to explain why he has the scar, since it would have been "too intense" to do so. To be fair, at the time it would have been, but now, do we really care how intense it could've happened? Also, I feel it's a bit messed up to make people with scars out to be intimidating, especially since that scar must've been a traumatic experience. I do think that they should go back on their statement and confirm that scar canonically in an understandable, less insulting way.

Now like I said in a previous post, I know Joan isn't much apart of the team anymore however, some of Joan's influence has still carried on in recent canon. Not to mention that Joan literally created Janus as a character. Another thing Joan did mention in their statement was that the scar..has a connection to the next side which is Orange. Which got me thinking-

Does that mean that Orange will be scarred too? Or..did Orange do it to him? Honestly, it does make sense. If you look at the pink hue enough, it does resemble that of a burn scar. Orange has been associated with that of fire.🔥

A character Janus has been connected to is Harvey Dent or Two Face due to Virgil's retort in Embarrassing Phases. According to the comics, Two Face is an ex lawyer who uses his studies in criminology and Law to commit his villainous crimes. He was chemically burned at a court trial, however some alternate versions suggest a more gruesome torture. And, it also happens to be on the same side of his body as Janus' scales and scar. This reference was made the episode right before SvS, where Janus was a lawyer. Definitely foreshadowing.

Another connection is to that of Zuko from Avatar the Last Airbender. We know Thomas loves this series and the character is notable here for having a very similar burn scar on the same eye. Coincidence? I think not!

Now, if it is answered, was it truly Orange who did it? What if it was Remus? And was it on purpose or accident? With Remus, it's more likely to be an accident but Orange we have yet to know but it's more likely purposeful. Unless, Virgil caused it and that could be something he's guilty of but who knows. I just feel bad for Janus in the sense that his snake vision must already suck and then he was nearly blinded a second time? Damn man.

But yeah..that pink is a scar..from some injury..from someone...for some reason or motive. What do you think about this?

[simpel-is]

yk i gotta say, rewatching sanders sides has made me realized how human logan rlly is

like okay yeah he's usually apathetic and calm and collected, but, and esp in the older vids, it's so easy to get him to go on an angry tangent with a simple disagreement with anyone rlly him and princey are so fun to watch they're like middleschoolers LMAO

also i love him being the one to teach thomas and the sides healthy ways to cope but it makes me think its bc he's had exp in learning to cope with the orange side's influence?

also since virgil was once a dark side now i wonder if he knows abt the orange's side's hold on logan and how that even works

now im curious as to what lesson logan will learn and who will be the one to teach and guide him towards it (im willing to bet it's patton, maybe roman too but yeah)

[hootnhoney]

You cant tell me this wasn’t Janus’s way of learning how the real Roman would respond to being accused of not being Roman.

If Janus is planning on impersonating Roman, then knowing how Roman would genuinely react to this would help Janus act his way out of any accusations.

[creepichan]

I cannot fucking do this anymore.... Okay, I am really not one for overanalyzing the littlest things in scenes that are probably meaningless and that people should stop thinking every little detail has a deep meaning.

BUT I was rewatching the puppet episode and someone in the comments pointed something out...

the moment when Logan gets angry? look at the staircase lighting

Thanks, my brain stopped to react normally whenever I see this color in SaSi

[orbch]

people talking about analogical and being like “their identities balance each other out really well” and im like NO KIDDING!!!! 😂🤣

anways heres an essay about their storylines and how they mirror each other

(everything im about to say is very mentally unconstructed and thought up in a 3am haze. and also i feel like all of my thoughts abt sasi are stagnant and surface level so please argue with me if you think im wrong..) (also these ideas have likely already been written a bajillion times. but let me do it anyway LOL)

^ with that being said i feel the need to set a definition on what makes sasi sides “dark sides” and “light sides” because like,, to me the only difference between them is the means in which they get the rest of the sides to listen to them

obviously.. none of the sides are actively trying to be evil. or trying to hurt cthomas on purpose. OBVIOUSLYY. because why the hell would they want to do that? they are all literally That Guy, and all of the sides have their own personal goals for thomas that they want him to follow. this is like. the plot. and very known information..

but remus, janus, and formerly virgil are the “dark sides”… like what? because janus manipulated and pretended to be the other sides because thats the only way he could get the others to really listen to and consider his ideas of self preservation and prioritization? and virgil would actively terrorize the others and thomas to get him to be anxious about the stuff virgil believed it was IMPORTANT for him to be anxious about? and remus. listen remus is a whole lot of “being awful for the sake of being awful” but evidently in DWIT he has a strong attraction to the idea of infamy and legacy. so even he is sort of looking out for thomas in. uhm. his own way i guess…

so obviously we know virgils storyline was;

purposely scare the others to get them to see situations from his point of view -> always get insulted and pushed away for being a “pessimist” (its his entire purpose) -> “duck out” and leave thomas and the others to discover the negative affects of zero anxiety -> only after that, finally become recognized as an important aspect of thomas

tw: mention of suicide [not in detail] (and on that note, i think its a little morbid that the light sides only fully realized virgils worth and objective after he attempted the sanders sides equivalent of suicide (which you can NOT convince me isnt what the concept of “ducking out” is. they are all metaphysical personifications of instinctual human traits. what the hell are they gonna do? become real and walk out of the house? bffr))

and whats logans journey?

be considered the [reasonable problem solver] of the group -> be placed in a MULTITUDE of situations where the range of solutions are emotions v. emotions v. emotions and suddenly be considered “cold hearted” and “uncaring” for your objective view points -> get excluded from discussions and ignored when you try and help in the only way you know how -> ???

i (and most of the fandom) fully believe logan (ESPECIALLY after WTIT) is going to start resorting to some pretty drastic measures to be acknowledged by the rest of the sides + thomas. some actions that are likely incited by a “dark side” (nudge nudge the orange guy nudge nudge). and if the harshness of the measures he takes in order to be listened to is all it takes for the rest of the dark sides to be considered “dark sides” in the first place. then uhh well… well!!!

but anyways yeah. yeah. logan and virgil kinda have mirrored character development and that is so fucking interesting. virgils path from dark to light and logans path from light to dark… sighhh.. good stuff

[loganslowdown4]

Guys

Why are they hiding in the kitchen together? 👀

[part-time-zombie]

Ok so you know how thomas posted this a little while ago?

And how it has roman saying "Tis I"?

I noticed that I don't really remember roman saying "Tis I" all that much, if ever. I mean it's definitely a thing he would say but I just can't recall a time where he did canonically say it onscreen.

You know who did say "Tis I"?

Janus.

(sorry for shoddy captions, but this is him saying it in the among us video, even if it's not technically canon)

And someone else pointed out in another post how this scene in svs where janus has roman spell his name out could be him testing to see how roman would respond to accusations of impersonation, so he would know how to act like him later.

If we put all that together, this could potentially be janus impersonating roman in the next video.

Just saying...

[randomnerd737]

Logan when he catches himself expressing emotions:

[let-roman-bite-someone]

thinking about how Virgil probably understands how Logan is feeling right now. how Logan feels like no one wants him around anymore, no one values his opinions, the other sides occassionally villanize him or act like he's the problem; and Virgil gets it. he knows exactly how it feels.

and that's why he doesn't make a big deal out of Logan jumping to conclusions about his present. it probably hurt Virgil to see Logan immediately assume that he didn't care enough to prepare a good present but in the end, all Virgil says is “and you thought I would just get you a newspaper”.

because he's been in this exact position before and in that moment, it was Logan who gave him some believable assurance that he is not unwanted, that his presence means something to the rest of them.

so when Logan jumps to a conclusion and assumes that Virgil doesn't like him all that much, Virgil doesn't take it personally. he's just returning the favor.