#saki karai

[sweeneydino]

Sorry i was drawing Saki

Nomnom evil man

Wait

I mean oh good, evil, possibly tragic, possibly just built like that men… and their family??

[amascomet]

My Shredder is a bit stupid beneath the mask

[shreddingdoodls]

shredder doodle dump

[iscdisc]

Whiteboard doodles for today !

Tang Shen supremacy 5ever- 🫶

I desperately want a 2012 timeline to exist where Shredder gets redeemed (At least, as much as he can realistically speaking-) and Tang Shen never passes away- But I know it's kind of impossible for both those things to exist at the same time,, 😭 Lmao

But imagine if Yoshi (Splinter) acknowledged Saki's (Shredder's) deteriorating mental health (Which is canon. Have you seen this man in Season 4? LMAO) and tries to reach out more. Despite knowing how much his brother wants his dead. Despite knowing he's the reason his wife is gone and his daughter didn't know he existed for years / painted him as her Mother's murderer.

Because if you really dissect Saki as a character, he's kind of an understandable / "relatable" antagonist-?? His biological Father (Honestly whole family I'm sure-) was murdered by his new adoptive Father (Yoshi's), his entire clan was taken out and he was swiftly indoctrinated into the Hamato Clan as an infant, I'm sure he practically got the Naruto treatment from the Hamato Clan (Always being judged for descending from the Foot Clan, like he asked for that or something-), Yoshi presumably was treated significantly better than him + was most definitely the favorite child between the two of them when it came to their Father-

This is getting a little theoretical here, since we don't exactly know the timeline between Tang Shen and Yoshi & Saki, but my personal opinion is that:

Saki met Tang Shen first- He had a very surreal connection with her and finally felt understood by somebody / wasn't treated differently because of his bloodline connections, right. Probably because he still has a lot of growth to do as a person, they had a falling out and the relationship ended (Tang Shen absolutely being the one to call it off-). Then after some time she ends up being in a romantic relationship with Yoshi and stays with him. To me, this is the most logical course of events considering what we see in the S3 episode, "Tale of the Yokai"-

But the reason I explained all this is because I feel like this is yet another thing that Saki feels the Hamato Clan has stolen from him. He has nothing, everything that he did have was taken from him, and he's treated as some sort of vile creature that needs to be "shown the proper path". I also want to throw out the possibility that their Father (Yoshi's Father-) being an unreliable narrator, since we don't get a lot of context behind the Foot Clan and whether or not they were actually bad people- I know historically speaking, the Foot Clan has always been the villains in this franchise, but for 2012 specifically we never truly got any proof of that (in my opinion) prior to Shredder's reign as head of the Foot- You know what I mean? (Though I know this is yet another thing that can be chalked up to poor writing / world building-)

During the same episode, "Tale of the Yokai", we witness Saki openly call out Yoshi for not caring about Tang Shen enough and for not caring about him. This is something I'd also love to get into at some point, since I think this would've been a really deep and complicated Character Arc for Splinter to have potentially gone through ! Because in my personal opinion, I don't think Splinter doesn't care about the people that he claims to care about + love immensely, I just think he doesn't show it in the way that he believes he is showing it- He doesn't always understand how his actions are being perceived by those people, you know what I mean?? That's exactly why I say Shredder should have had a Redemption Arc and Splinter should have been a huge part of that, because at the end of the day you can understand why Saki is so upset as a person-?? All he wanted was somebody to genuinely love him for who he was and not try to change him or blame him for something he wasn't even alive for at the time. I think Splinter really needed to prove to him that he does love him. I also think Splinter should go through similar efforts with his sons first before making an attempt with Saki- Since I know a lot of people have issues with his parenting / feel he didn't love any of his sons except Leo (Which I half agree, half disagree- Also talking about Splinter's lack of self-awareness or situational awareness sometimes, I feel like that's why he never really addressed the favoritism with Leo.,, Because he was his Father's favorite child, so why would he have that kind of self-reflection when he didn't notice it between himself and his brother- You know? 😭).

The point is, I think Saki is just a deeply hurt / scarred man and because he was constantly left his own devices and quite frankly self-isolated, he just got worse and worse,, You can honestly see that deterioration throughout the series with how delusional he becomes towards the end- I promise I'll stop yapping after this, but can we talk about the moment that Shredder had during the S4 episode, "The Super Shredder" when he was describing constantly seeing Splinter in his nightmares and him having this condescending face all the time-?? 😭

[incorrect-tmnt2012-quotes]

Karai: I don’t want to be anything like my uncle. He held the longest grudges. Karai: I’ll always hate him for that.

[isonachiumbu0]

Shredder loves picking people up by their heads. He never gets to destroy them, however, because raph swoops in LIKE A BOSS EVERY TIME. The first time, shredder decides to attack leo with his tekkō kagi but draxum just gets the claws

If there's one thing raph's gonna do, it's stop the shredder from killing people 5 ft off the ground

.....Except for karai. Sorry, gram-gram, you don't get to be rescued. Also yeah, being suspended by your head definitely hurts (especially by a metal clawed-hand) but being held completely off the floor by your hair???? All that weight on your SCALP??? That's gotta REALLY hurt. Help karai

[shantechni]

12 Shredder: puts Karai in a situation that gets her mutated

12 Shredder: Why would Splinter do this?

LEGIT:

Even Tiger Claw was like, "Ayo, u sure about this?" But Shredder really thought initiating a fight in the same room where someone is hanging from a rope for dear life wouldn't have any unintended consequences😭

[roses-without-raindrops]

Me in middle school: Wow, I love this animated action show where two men who used to be best friends eventually fell out and tried to kill each other, resulting in the one-eyed villain taking the other's daughter, assigning her a new identity and raising her as his own!

Me now: Wow, I love this animated action show where two men who used to be best friends eventually fell out and tried to kill each other, resulting in the one-eyed villain taking the other's daughter, assigning her a new identity and raising her as his own!

[pumpkinpie559]

very serious tmnt content. clearly.

[sweeneydino]

Family man.

[cherrybxmber]

Foot clan never cry.

Idk bruhhh

[shreddingdoodls]

catching shredder playing... project sekai?? whoops,,

bonus doodle under the cut!

[iscdisc]

I made another tier list ! 👍✨

This time I finally did the duos for 2012 (At least, of the main characters-) ! So all 5 boys, all 5 girls, and Splinter / Shredder / Tang Shen !

All these are done under the lens of either platonic or familial dynamics depending on the pairing (I'm going to make a ship related one another time-) ! I really wanted to include Shredder with his niece and nephews, since Shredder being their Uncle should have been utilized way more in the overarching narrative in my opinion- I also tried to find odd duos like Y'gthba with Mikey or Raph / Leo / Donnie with Renet ! I unfortunately couldn't find images of Shinigami with Raph / Leo / or Donnie,, 💀

Here's a link to the tier list if you guys want to do your own ! 🫶✨

[incorrect-tmnt2012-quotes]

Shredder: I am your father.

Karai: Nuh uh.

Shredder: The fuck you mean “nuh uh”?!

[fabuloustrash05]

@pumpkinpie59 and I have come up with a genius idea for 87 Karai being a test tube baby that Krang created in his lab using Shredder’s DNA.

Also she has the appearance of a teenager but is only a few days old.

87 Karai: I’m Shredder’s daughter

87 Leo: SINCE WHEN?!

87 Karai: 2 days ago.

[artofatomic]

here we got some bad guys, not so bad guy, and allies!!

then we got maskless Shredder and pre-mutant Splinter.

we are missing Kraang and a many other allies but they'll come soon-ish

if you guys want story or more info feel free to leave an ask cuz i love talking about these things X3