#sabrina deserves better

[miraculousdeservesbetter2024]

If Sabrina were to unify the dog and bee Miraculous, what would she call herself?

Howlin' Hornet!

That sounds cool! 😎

Sabrina with a Miraculous will NEVER not be cool.

[little-miss-understood]

Dearest Chloe

Sabrina stared down at the blank page in front of her. In a way, the page seemed to mock her with its emptiness, of a task that was put off for far too long. How many years had she let things lapse, and for what reasons?

She shook her head. No, don't let the past take control. This is about the present and the future, no negative talk!

That was a difficult thing to put into practice, though she was trying. All of her success seemed to come with the help of her therapist, a very kind and understanding woman who encouraged Sabrina to stand up for herself, to embrace who she was...

...and to try and stay away from toxic influences.

-

“The thing about people like Chloe, dear, is that they have to believe they need help before seeking it out. Even then this might take her reaching rock bottom before the realization clicks in. You cannot force it. You have your own life to live and she may not listen to you anyways.”

-

It was a harsh truth. Maybe hearing that was a part of her own “rock bottom”? Sabrina mused about it as her capped pen tapped the top of the paper. Her father was the one who had first noticed something was off, in that she wasn't hanging around Chloe nearly as much now that the other girl had found what appeared to be a true kindred spirit in Lila. Try as she might, she couldn't get in between them...and she wasn't sure that she wanted to. In the end things had just petered out until one day Sabrina realized the other two had left her behind while shopping.

-

“People such as the one you're describing spread lies and half-truths to try and hide something in their own lives. Eventually that cost will have to be paid back; every lie is a debt to the truth. It may not look like it, but as they pile up it can take a toll on one's very soul and Sabrina, you don't strike me as person who wants to wallow in the dark waters.”

-

Madame Archambault was of course correct; the paths that Lila and Chloe were on were far from the person Sabrina truly was. She wanted to stand for the truth, and for justice, and at some point over the years she had strayed hard from those qualities. There was a line she couldn't cross, a line that was kind of evil or to be used in ways she didn't want to even imagine. Truthfully she wasn't even sure Chloe realized what was happening but her pleas fell on deaf ears.

-

“You said that once she locked you into her closet and wouldn't let you out until her homework was completed. Dear, that does not sound like friendship. If anything that sounds like a form of slavery, or servitude. Is that truly something which is worth it in the long run?”

-

No, it wasn't. Sabrina knew this now; that to bend to Chloe's will and do everything for the other girl, up to and including their combined homework, wasn't something born out of their friendship but more out of a twisted desire on her part to not end up alone which Chloe took full advantage of. The force of assertiveness that the other girl could be bent Sabrina to her will, enough that she was waking up in the morning and not recognizing who she was at times. The reflection showed a girl, yes, but one who hid or sacrificed everything for someone else.

-

“Sabrina. I want to assure you: it is alright to be alone. It isn't a bad thing. In fact, you may want to consider stepping away from being involved with your class for a while, even up until the end of the school year. A completely fresh start is coming with lycee, correct? It will allow you to recover and get in better touch with parts of yourself long forgotten, or that you haven't discovered yet.”

-

The advice appealed to Sabrina; because of her long-running status with Chloe she wasn't sure if any in the class would associate with her, let alone want to be friends. After discussing it with her father, she started to look at schools for lycee on the other side of Paris, far from where her current class might apply. It would be a totally new start, and for the time being she asked Madame Bustier to sit on her own somewhere in class. It was at the back but it allowed her to focus and be away from drama. She looked into hobbies long abandoned and took up painting, setting up a corner in her room to put an easel and canvas. 

-

“The exercise that I have for you now is a hard one, but rewarding. It is to write a letter to those who have caused you difficulties, emotional or otherwise. It does not have to be sent, you don't even have to forgive them, dear. But it will allow you to move past the situation.”

-

The last day of the current school year was coming up. Sabrina had wanted this letter to be completed by that time so that she could close the chapter. But closure was proving to be elusive. What could be said to a person that didn't wish to listen or acknowledge the pain they had caused? Chloe had been a big part of her life for so long, enough that the thought of rebuilding after their separation seemed impossible.

However Sabrina had done it. She was well on her way to a lycee which focused on academics, where she hoped to study law. Some of the class had begun to make kind gestures of friendship and she had been invited to a party after graduation. Solitude wasn't as bad as she feared; finally getting used to her own company was a big win in her mind. She could smile at herself in the mirror. Things were going well.

She opened up her pen.

“Dearest Chloe,

Goodbye. And good luck.

Sabrina.”

-

Sabrina wasn't really sure what to do with the letter afterwards. The words were few and she knew that there was one thing to add which would truly sever the connection. It took until halfway through the summer before she worked up enough nerve. Standing outside of the Le Grand Paris hotel she stared down at the envelope that had a distinct bulge inside; a broach pin that Chloe had once given her as a sign of friendship. Or perhaps of buying Sabrina off, she was unsure now of the meaning. She had resolved to give it back or throw it into the Seine, to sever things and get rid of as many reminders of the past as possible.

She had heard Chloe wasn't there, that her mother had taken her somewhere in order to force the girl back in line. Such a fate wasn't what Sabrina would have wished for her in a million years; Audrey Bourgeois was a terrible mother and to be trapped with such a person would more than likely push Chloe in directions she didn't even want to think about. At the same time, Sabrina knew it was out of her control: even if she wanted to, Chloe was far out of sight and mind. The letter was left with a doorman and she turned to look back at the imposing building. A lot of her spare time was spent there, willingly and not. This was probably a place she'd never set foot in again, which was...alright. She had closed the chapter somewhat, and it was a success she'd bring up in therapy.

A bright smile crossed her face as she walked home.

[khaleesi-rose]

Me when I listen to all because I liked a boy:

[chs-miraculous-prompts]

Maribat – Those that were left Behind

Before anything, read the rules.

Okay, this prompt is… a lot, to say the least. I discussed this idea before with @natedogx15, but, this is a more “polished” version of it.

The concept is, do you know those Maribat fics where Marinette left class after Lila destroyed her reputation during the timeline of season 3? And then she returns dating a dc character? And everyone in class is like “Oh my! We were so stupid, sorry, Mari”?

Yeah, it’s based on this one… but with a twist! In this story, instead of the focus being on Marinette falling in love… it is about the class members that stayed in Paris!

In this AU, the story would start with the class hearing Marinette has moved away… some are shocked, but, believing Lila, are relieved she is away. Some of this include Alya, Nino, Chloe (who would have become Lila’s ally before for reasons to be discussed later) and the rest.

But one specific student is sad, because she knows the truth. And that student is… Sabrina! Basically, we moved her arc of Season 5 finale to the middle of Season 3 and now, she is redeemed.

(I am back on my Sabrina Phase, blame @sabrina-central for that)

The story isn’t over, though, because, since Marinette left, she needed to leave a powerful miraculous back in Paris to purify the akumas, and we get the Solaire Plume plot here to!

So, basically, this fic is Season 4 of miraculous with Rooster!Sabrina as the main character.

As time passes, though, more people start to notice Lila’s intentions, and Sabrina makes her own team to expose Lila. This team is formed by other side characters that deserve more screen time, like Nathaniel, Marc and Alix. (Maybe Kagami and Luka could be thrown in the mix too, but, who knows).

Who wouldn’t love a team formed by Solaire Plume, Ryuko, Viperion, Caprikid and Dog!Marc?

I have no idea where this can go, but, it’s interesting none the less. I just think that it would be cool a fic of miraculous where the main characters aren’t Marinette, Alya, Adrien, Nino and Chloe.

[elina-sakura]

What’s even more amazing is that I think he forgot there were episodes where they could have given Sabrina development and compassion.

Evillustrator: A plot point that explores Sabrina trying to break away from Chloé’s toxic friendship, yet just goes back to her in the end, knowing she doesn’t treat her well.

Antibug: She was akumatized, yet never got her own episode based on her akumatization. And Chloé ends up taking the spotlight as Antibug in the end. She never even got a proper apology from Chloé.

Miraculer: Sabrina’s first titular debut as the focused Akuma, yet once again is overshadowed by Chloé. We never even see the aftermath of her akumatization and her reaction.

Penalteam: Sabrina’s debut as a heroine, yet is completely overshadowed by not only three more hero debuts, but also Ladybug’s unnecessary arc and Chloé again.

It just makes you wonder again, how are we suppose to care about Sabrina if other characters, especially Chloé, takes the spotlight?

Especially with how they ‘redeemed’ Sabrina, yet she never realized she was awful herself, she was a bully herself, and never actually try to make things right for her past actions.

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Amazing that Astruc is willing to mock people who like Chloe over Sabrina, while doing nothing to improve either of their characters.

[ryan-waddell11]

Salem 🤝🏻 Eddie

[jugheads-choni]

Thinking about how my baby boy Harvey Kinkle deserved SO MUCH BETTER in Chilling Adventures of Sabrina…

Ross did a great job with what he got, but the writers had a grudge against this character istg. He deserved better storylines, a deeper dive into his trauma & a more well-written motivation for things.

I didn’t really like him and Sabrina tbh. I didn’t like Sabrina and Nick either tho lol.

[miraculouscriticismshub]

MLB fandom Math be like ......

MLB fandom Maths is calling Adrienette toxic because they dislike Marinette's obsessive behaviour of Adrien and accuse her of stalking but ship Feligami despite how Felix also stalked Kagami and did worse than Marinette by kidnapping her.

MLB fandom Maths is hating on Kagami because she is getting in the way of Adrienette by having feelings for Adrien but is fine with Luka dating Marinette and supporting Luka at the same time.

MLB fandom Maths is saying Chloe doesn't deserve redemption because she never felt remorse or properly apologized for her actions but at the same time, forgive Felix and support his redemption arc despite him doing worse than Chloe and not uttering a single apology or properly repenting for his crimes.

MLB fandom Math is slandering Alya because they think she is a bad friend for believing Lila over Marinette as well as making a few ignorant decisions but go ahead and call Kagami a better friend despite her telling Felix LB's identity without her permission.

MLB fandom Math is attacking and cancelling small creators by accusing them of predator behaviour when they have made a slight mistake but are silent when a big content creator is openly showing predator behaviour.

MLB fandom Math is being quick to call out the toxic behaviour of some Chloe/Felix/Lila stans but staying quiet when some toxic Maribug/Adrichat or Adrienette stans also show signs of aggression, some even go as far as to support their behaviour (e.g what happened to that one Lila fan)

MLB fandom Math is celebrating the fact Chloe gets sent off to live with her abusive mother and is glad that she is written out of the show, justifying their opinion by saying she deserves to be abused by Audrey but if you say the same thing about Felix, they will go mad and call you an abuse apologist

MLB fandom math dislikes Sabrina's redemption because she only betrayed Chloe because she wasn't being benefitted by her friendship with Chloe and was being replaced but go ahead and support Nathalie's redemption when she ALSO betrayed Gabriel because she was also not being benefitted anymore by their partnership.

Disclaimer: These are just common double standards I've seen in the fandom so I thought is important to address this so please stay respectful when commenting :)

[whistlingstarlight]

No fucking way was Sabrina's enquiry rejected but Jordan's accepted no way was she better than both Romanian gymnasts. Especially poor Ana, she deserved that bronze

(however, big up Rebeca Andrade getting the gold for floor, especially after being robbed on beam)

[generalluxun]

I love what the fandom has made Sabrina. Canon has barely given her the time of day. Maybe some day she will make the list.

If we go for fandom interpretations then the list changes 😁

Who are your top 3 favorite characters and your top 3 least favorite?

Top three are easy:

1)Chloé

2)Kagami

3)Alya

Chloé both for the bombast and for being the most complex and 'could have gone any direction' character.

Kagami for being the absolute purest creature in the world. She has no guile and it is adorable

Alya for her forthright heroics and cunning wit.

Bottom three? That's harder. I think probably...

André: Chloé's father for having 14 years to raise her and failing on every single level imaginable

Audrey: for running out on her family, adultery, and throwing out emotional abuse lile candy when she *is* around.

Other André:For being a giant man baby toxic shipper, also apparently a fraud who has been selling food without a license for decades.

[screamingberries]

GMW AU where Maya is the foster kid of the Matthews and Shawn and Angela are still together/visit them and as the show goes on their bond strengthens but in s2 the finale can be a two parter and Maya has to leave the Matthews and obviously she doesn’t want to leave Riley and attend the same high school as her friends so Shawn and Angela decide to adopt her because of the genuine connection they made and maybe a little twist can be thrown in like “oh maya already has a new family ready to take care of her” unaware that the new family are Shawn and Angela until they reveal it themselves. Thank you and goodnight <3

[miraculousdeservesbetter2024]

Wish Miraculous Ladybug ACTUALLY focused more on Sabrina's redemption arc instead of Chloé's damnation arc.

The potential was RIGHT THERE!

RIGHT!?

I’m Chloe neutral, but in the past I was an anti Chloe fan and a HUGE Sabrina fan! I always loved the idea of Sabrina having a redemption arc. If we can’t have Chloe redemption, then we should’ve had at least a proper Sabrina redemption and build up. But the canon Sabrina redemption that we we’re given…sucked eggs. Because she didn’t change because she finally realized that Chloe was a shitty friend, she changed because she wasn’t Chloe’s bestie anymore.

I understand that sometimes, certain things need to come to play to break out of toxic relationships, but still. I think it could’ve been handled MUCH better. Sabrina deserved better.

[little-miss-understood]

A lot of people probably think my favourite character in ML is Marinette. That's not true, though she is second (and defend her to the death I always will.) Top of the list, which may be surprising, is Sabrina Raincomprix.

There's a soft spot that I have for her in particular (not just from the fact that I look similar), and there's so much potential in the character and it dismays me to see it wasted. Season 4 was especially bad in this way as they literally show her being locked into a closet, essentially a slave of Chloe...

...Not to get too personal, but I know how it feels to be enslaved to someone who believes they are stronger, more powerful, more assertive. It greatly bothered me to see that's how the show treats her, that she can't ever "rise above".

Thus, I turn to fan works that have her involved. Or I create my own. That in itself can be difficult as so many of the stories out there involve her being in a relationship with her bully, something I cannot condone. Some are from the start of the fandom, back four years ago, and aren't completed. Some are wonderful stories, including one where my username came from and is Sabrina-related. Much like anything in ML that isn't "Love Square" related it can be difficult to find content for the other characters and Sabrina isn't an exception to this.

In effect, I tend to believe that Sabrina deserves better just as much as Marinette. We probably aren't going to get this in canon, so fan works are going to have to do.

She can be more than "not being able to get it".

[soldierandawar]

not that i don't love sabrina's new music, but there's something about her older stuff that just scratches my brain.

[cleverchromatophore]

It’s a remake of “Sabrina” but Sabrina isn’t a photographer or a chef or otherwise willing to fit into the Larrabees’ perfect world.

This go-around Sabrina has some fucking class-consciousness and comes back to organize Larrabee Industries.

Some number of Larrabee siblings can see the error of their ways, turn the company over to the workers, and run after Sabrina’s the end of the movie.

And Ayo Edebiri plays Sabrina.

[chaotic-ace-arts]

Time to bake these guys.

Can't wait to detail these and then gloss and add the chains ^-^