OK CHAT LOCKING IN AND WRITING AS I COME UP WITH STUFF FOR AN OBEY ME THE GOOD PLACE AU BECAUSE OF BRAINROT💔 (the good place spoilers below, obey me spoilers below too but lesser)
So starting with the obvious ones:
Eleanor is MC (both main characters, both the humans who brought peace to the universe or whatever. Also both whores who said that?)
Janet is Barbatos (both op and very smart who live to help and grow closer with the mc slowly)
Ok I actually can’t think of anymore obvious ones. (I’m gonna preface that I’m going based mostly off of personalities and their roles to the story, not their relationships with one another so if I put two brothers as people who end up together this is NOT demoncest I’m not talking about the romance aspect😭)
Going through the main the good place cast, it makes sense that Jason is Mammon (loveable dorks with good hearts but do crime lowkey. They’re literally the same person)
AND THAT WOULD MEAN IN THIS UNIVERSE BARBMON/MACARON IS CANON IG? (Again I’m not focusing on the romance aspect, this is just something just worth saying)
Who would be Tahani? Asmo, maybe? They both like to brag about themselves, they’re both canonically the hottest, both popular and lowkey pretentious… yeah I’d go with that
And chidi is difficult. He’s indecisive, a great lover, a nerd, loves reading, into moral philosophy, so I’m gonna say Simeon is the closest, but I’m not sure if that would fit well just better than others
Michael is hard. Maybe Michael is Michael; both called Michael and mysterious ig, but I think he’d be a better fit for either Solomon or Diavolo. Let me explain:
Solomon and Michael both appear friendly at first while actually having bad intentions. They possess a power unknown to any of their peers and as the series goes on, grow very attached to the main characters. They’re also both different to what they first said they were (Michael claimed to be an angel but was a demon, Solomon didn’t explicitly claim to be normal but he’s certainly more powerful than he appears)
Diavolo and Michael also both appear friendly at first, except diavolo actually is friendly which lowkey ruins it… though I’d say diavolo seems like he has some ulterior motive in the start of the game lowkey, he really doesn’t. Dude just wants peace. Which is similar to Michaels character growth but that feels like a stretch. they’re both in control of the whole thing, and are trying to introduce a new idea to the afterlife despite backlash.
I’d say Solomon fits better though (in either case, this would result in Solomon/diavolo being kind of a father figure to Barb at some point, which is funny to think about)
Ok now non-main characters
Vicky is Satan, which would mean it would be funny to have lucifer be Michael, but lucifer just isn’t as good of a fit for Michael as Solomon is, sadly. Satan and Vicky both feel like they have a point to prove to people underestimating them and they’re both quite smart and value their knowledge and likeability.
Mindy st Claire pisses me off (not the character, thinking about who would be her) BECAUSE Solomon is definitely best fit for her (humans who are their own league of morality, kind of anti-social/lonely though that’s because of isolation, relaxed) BUT he’s better fit for Michael. Soooo we will return to her LMAO (rn considering Levi???)
Simeon would also be good for her (Humans who I imagine wouldn’t be allowed into the good/bad place since he’s kinda yk just fell from there…) but he’s much better as chidi
Glenn would fit as mammon but mammon is so Jason-coded it’s unreal
What other characters even exist uhhhh ummm uhhh
I want to figure out who the twins would be
WAIT NONONO GO BACK GO BACK
TAHANI AS SATAN AND CAMILLA AS LUCIFER OFMS THATS THEIR DYNAMIC DOWN TO A TEA
Lucifer/camilla is much more accomplished and respected, which makes satan/tahani resent her/him. Tahani and satan are both well read and self respecting as well.
Then who would Asmo be fml
I mean mindy is always joking about masturbating. Not even joking she’s just jorking it 24/7 and she did record Eleanor and chidi for a sex tape so I’d say Asmo is pretty well fit yeah
Who would be asmos derek then. Hm. We can ignore he was made by Janet/barb since that doesn’t really apply to anyone (perchance Solomon or dia since they lowkey have a family bond??? Stretch) and focus on the fact he was incredibly stupid but Asmo/mindy reset him so much he got very smart (I think by the end of the series he was like… a god? Help)
I think Solomon would fit actually but he’s better as Michael and I don’t like the idea of Solomon being Barbatos’ rebound for mammon because mammon started sleeping with satan. I hate that sentence, actually. Especially that last part. What am I doing with my life
Anyway I think we should come back to Derek (considering Mephisto I will explain later if I stick with that)
OH MY GOODNESS THE JUDGE WHATS HER NAME FICK WHATS HER NAME
THE ONE WHO SIMPS FOR ALL THE MEN WHAT IS HER NAME
Anyway she’s exactly how I imagine Michael acts. Very old very powerful but just cunty and obsessed with sit coms and hot men. Because. Also they’re both judges of the afterlife or whatever
Who tf is bad Janet. I could envision Asmo but I like Asmo as Mindy and don’t want to rethink that decision. Actually let’s stay loyal to the lore bad Janet is just Barbatos as an au. Bad Janet is Barbatos’ aquarium fit cause that’s bad /neg 😡
The main characters go into Janet’s void/barbatos’ room of doors or whatever and they all just look like different barbatos fits.
Ok but also Belphie could be bad Janet, lowkey… no barb au 100% I’m sticking with there just being a million barbs (this implies disco barb exists. Fun)
I do remember Sean’s existence I just don’t know who he’d be. I like the idea of him being Raphael but Raphael isn’t mean they just have the same vibes yk. They need beef with michael/solomon. Lucifer would’ve been perfect for this but alas he is decided as Camilla😪 thirteen???? WAIT YES THIRTEEN IS OERFECT THAT IS LITERALLY HE DYNAMIC WITH SOLOMON YES I want thirteen in a suit
Gwendolyn Luke? Gwendolyn Luke. (I didn’t know who she was in at the point I have to Google the good place characters: she’s the girl they see in the good place who doesn’t let them ring the phone if you remember
We’re running out of om characters but I want Doug forcett to be the unnamed butcher from s3 because that’s so funny to me
But we still don’t have a Beel :( he’s not Simone, I don’t think he’s anyone of the s4 test humans (but Asmo would def be the one friends with Tahani)
Levi who r u. I was gonna just leave some characters out but I’ve only got like 3 left so I’m determined to find them all characters.
Mepbisto as Simone????????? Would Raphael fit better??????? One of those two as Simone, we will return when we have a character for Levi
Levi bambadjan? Yeah okay no real reason I just like bambadjan I want him included
Simone is into neuroscience, she’s smart, self assured, sassy and exes with chidi (who is now Simeon) but tbh I could see both Raphael and Mephisto as her… I’m gonna say Mephisto because I feel like he just has that wit that Simone has and Raphael isn’t rlly as witty
Who is Raphael then guys. Anybody like spears? Wet cat energy? Bad food taste? Sorry I don’t like Raphael enough (NOT HATE🙅♀️) to be able to characterize him properly. I would say one of the good place council members but nah he’s not overly positive enough for that. Could he be Hypatia, maybe? They have similar vibes when she’s not drinking milkshake and being all woo-ey because of the immortality thing but that still doesn’t feel right.
Wait did I do diavolo
FUCK DID I FORGET BELPHIE TOO
Ok Belphie is Trevor but who is diavolo oh my DAYS
I fear I may have to replace Michael with Diavolo for the judge💔which still works imo since they’re insanely powerful (in strength and influence), old, and pretty chill if entertained but very set on their goals and motivated. It just means no Michael unless you want Michael to be the whole good place council
Oh also lil d’s as the demons pretending to be humans in the good place and lil d 2 as Todd (the one always show in demon form) just because that makes me giggle
Wait I’m now realising that I forgot to recast Vicky when I made Satan tahani
Vicky is Raphael that fits a bit (totally not just trying to fit them both in) so no more Hypatia oh well she was in like 2 episodes and was just a plot device anyway maybe she can be maddi idk who else exists
Edit: I forgot to recast Derek. Oops. Derek is lowkey Solomon coded but AGAIN I like him too much as michael, so I’m gonna say Dia??? And that way Michael can be judge Gen? Idk how to feel about implying Dia and Barbatos dated and Barb created him as a rebound though… Oh well I’m already technically implying Satan and Mammon did the deed and that’s gross so just ignore the relationship implications based on casting🙏
SO TO SUMMARISE:
Eleanor- MC
Chidi- Simeon
Tahani- Satan
Jason- Mammon
Michael- Solomon
Janet- Barbatos
Shawn- Thirteen
Vicky- Raphael(?)
Glenn- Beel
Judge Gen (because I googled her name)- Michael
Mindy- Asmo
Kamilah- Lucifer
Bad Janet- also Barbatos
Bambadjan- Levi (LMAO I’m sorry)
Trevor- Belphie
Gwendolyn- Luke
Neutral Janet- Barbatos again
Simone- Mephisto(?)
Derek: Diavolo (I hate that cast though)
Doug forcett- The butcher from season 3?😭
Demon workers- lil d’s
Disco Janet- still Barbatos who would have guessed
And some honourable mentions (double casts) cause lucifer is Brett, Asmo is tahanis friend from s4 I forgot yk the gossip guy with a blog, Mammon is the guy who takes his top off instead of fighting that was Eleanor’s fake soulmate number 2, I’m not doing all their family’s guys but donkey Doug could be like lil d 2 or smthn. I’m gonna post this and forget someone which I’m trying to avoid but ohh welllll
Thank you for coming to my ted talk
I want to draw this now🧍♀️🧍♀️
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Please stop doing this.
Please stop doing this.
The devil may be bound by clever wordplay, but Christian Nationalists are not the fey.
“Oh-ho! They didn’t think thru their own rules, hmm? What FOOLS!”
Friend, their rule is, “Fuck you” and “Thank your betters.”
Their rule is, “Eradicate the vermin.”
This is a central feature of right-wing ideology and absolutely critical to understand.
Conservativism consists of exactly one principle, to whit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
Conservatives believe hierarchy is fundamental to humanity (and sometimes fundamental to the universe).
While you may think they imagine themselves at the top of this hierarchy, that’s not so. They just always imagine someone else guaranteed to be below them.
They can accept that someone will be above them but the bargain of self-injuring collaboration is to be granted absolute power over some other even more despised group.
“Psychological wages.”
This is why equality is anathema to conservatives. They cannot imagine it, only an inverted system of oppression where they lose power.
If they accept slavery, it’s b/c someone must inevitably be fettered and tortured, but in a good system, it’s someone who deserves it. So if a slaver can’t hold the whip or put someone in chains, they assume they’ll be enslaved—which is unnatural & unfair b/c they don’t deserve it. Literally, slavers responded to abolitionism in history this way but also right now (just ask people about ending prison slavery)
So think about that in terms of queer life.
At present, cis-heteronormativity and patriarchy are intensely indoctrinated into children and violently enforced to maintain the current hierarchy. A huge amount of energy shapes children from birth and keeps them in line.
If society rejects that hierarchical oppression, the right wing does not believe that no one will be indoctrinated or coerced. They believe indoctrination and violence will be queer instead, and that’s unnatural and unfair (unlike the status quo they call natural and fair).
Therefore, conservatives will try to stop this “grooming” where children think of themselves as people with agency, bodily autonomy, and a full sense of self—b/c they say that’s perverse
There’s no “gotcha” here. The logic is consistent. Conservatives just think we’re subhuman.
Conservatives used to openly claim nobles and royals had better blood, and openly claim certain people were subhuman by race, gender, disability, etc.
That has never gone away, it only got quieter (for a while).
If you think it’s an oversight by conservatives that black letter law makes it so cisheterosexual as well as queer relationships can’t be acknowledged, you fundamentally misunderstand the point of power and believe law exists like magic spells rather than expression of that power.
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