#s31

[autisticburnham]

I don't think it's entirely fair to lay the blame for Section 31 being divorced from its original purpose in the narrative at the feet of Disco. Like, yes Disco did heavily contribute to it, as evidenced by the "cool, sexy spy movie" starring a Discovery character. But, I think the problem starts in ds9.

My read of the original episode in which Section 31 was created, that I admittedly have not watched in a while, is that it is portrayed as a repugnant thing that is not only unnecessary, but actively undermines the existence of the Federation. And I think that that is still widely the fan perception of it- that's why people are upset that it's being turned into a James Bond movie. But Section 31's biological warfare being what ends the war- the war that if we choose to believe Julian and the Jack Pack, was otherwise unwinnable and would have resulted in countless deaths, fascism, and slavery spreading across the galaxy- does narratively justify its existence. It is still repugnant, but this ending communicates that it is necessary. I of course personally disagree with this message, especially when applied to real world politics, but it is nonetheless the message that I think is being conveyed.

And while I have not read the ds9 novels, my understanding of them is that they expand upon this and Julian joins and becomes the head of Section 31 because of this necessity.

And while again, it has been quite a while since I watched them, to my memory, Enterprise's Section 31 episodes do ultimately conclude that while Section 31 is unpleasant, it is ultimately a useful tool and that many of its operatives are well meaning.

Discovery obviously builds quite a lot on this, but its portrayl of Section 31, is in my opinion, the result of a gradual process in how the organization has been portrayed since its beginning, not something they decided out of the blue

[idvarchive]

[chmerkovskiyvalentin]

Maks did interview about Val injury and it was a lot more serious that we thought

Oh thanks for the heads up 😉

Yeah it was def scary, so so glad he’s better than ever now!!

(Click on the link for the video of a part of the interview)

[alwayshungrytoo]

PHILIPPA GEORGIOU IS BACK

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[codenameregnar]

Pullin up to the Section 31 watch party in this shirt ready to have a terrible time.

[walkingstackofbooks]

Sloan comes back before IAESL to ask Julian if he's reconsidered joining Section 31. And Julian reluctantly says yes, remembering Sisko's orders and unwilling to disobey them, despite (or perhaps, because of) the captain's recent departure from the station.

Naturally, Julian needs some tutoring in the finer points of spycraft, which Sloan is more than happy to give him. And the first few late-night sessions aren't so bad - a bit dull, especially considering all the far more interesting lessons Garak had given him over the years - but they're fine. Whatever.

He doesn't really think it's necessary to book a few days of leave for the 'intensive training course' Sloan wants him to go on, but the spy insists, so Julian gives in, and lets himself be taken off the station. Garak's lessons in paranoia clearly hadn't sunk in deep enough - he can't stand Sloan, but he's not expecting anything worse than too much self-satisfied smarminess, and he's definitely hoping he'll finally be able to find a bit more out about Section 31.

Sloan, on the other hand, awaited their getaway with great anticipation. He'd ran intensive training courses before - "intensive" here meaning "how to withstand torture" - but he imagined that teaching Julian Bashir would be particularly satisfying. How long can augments hold their breath for? he mused. He'd have to try it out.

[cringedog]

s31 ziyal who realizes how evil her father is and violently rebels against him by joining s31 and devoting herself to destroying the cardassian empire. but at the same time constantly struggling with the fact that she is cardassian and she is dukat's daughter and it constantly haunts her

[the-last-dillpickle]

Sloan having obligatory gay sex for the ongoing stability and prosperity of the Federation

[autisticburnham]

Can't believe we're gonna get our first movie since I became a trekkie and I can't even watch it in theaters because it's direct to streaming

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[idvarchive]

[poebrey]

section 31 looks goofy and fun I’m so excited, also if they show baby michael when delving into georgiou’s backstory I will cry

[eesttm]

[idonotbitemythumbatyou]

With the last season of lower decks and that cringe faux-girl-power Section 31 movie coming up there’s going to be so much Section 31 shit this year and I am…. Afraid.

Hopefully we won’t get the weird jingoism we got from the Kelvinverse S31 stuff but I’m pretty much resigned to the entire concept losing its cautionary tale edge, and one of these making it canon that Bashir joined up at some point.

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