#rwby: Salem

[rontra]

black dog

[pilot-boi]

Summer and Salem fusion for @thebreadthatcausedlesmis

First of all, love your username. Second of all, this lady will give your mommy issues mommy issues. I sent her to my one friend to verify that she’s hot

Specific fusion you wanna see? [Buy Me A Ko-Fi]

[rwby-sk]

I'm not defending Salem by any means. But I don't understand how some people say her motives aren't clear, or that she's evil for no reason. As if she's a generic BBEG.

It's all about Ozma. It's always been all about Ozma.

Her initial lie of omission to the Brothers was for Ozma. Her rebellion was for Ozma.

Then?

Ozma and Salem had a fight about how the new humans should live. Salem wanted to rule over them, while Ozma did not. This argument, and Ozma's betrayal, led to a fight.

We've seen Salem and Ozma fight before. Salem uses rainbow colored rays of energy. Ozma is the one that causes explosions strong enough to destroy whales (and castles).

Salem obviously loved her daughters, and blames Ozma for their deaths, as we saw when Salem thought she was meeting Ozma again:

And then, what did Ozma do? He became the king of Vale. And helped build the other kingdoms. He built the huntsman academies to protect the relics. He subtly created a whole organization of powerful allies to influence the councils of every kingdom.

Ozma did what Salem had suggested anyway.

Ozma (secretly) runs the world.

Of course she wants to tear it all down. Of course she doesn't care about anything else. Ozma betrayed her, and at least in her eyes, killed their daughters. Ozma did this so Salem wouldn't run the world with him. And instead did it alone.

Salem could overrun the kingdoms with grimm easily. But that's not what she wants. She wants to undermine Ozma's work. Because it's what Ozma sacrificed their life together for.

So she goes after relics. She kills huntsmen. She destroys huntsmen academies. Because they are what Ozma chose over her, and what she thinks Ozma killed their children over.

I don't agree with it. But like, I get it.

[purrgiri]

[eviltomb]

[arc-misadventures]

Who’s Who?

Neptune: Hey, Jaune?

Jaune: Yeah?

Sun: We’ve got a question for you!

Jaune: And, it is?

Sun: Of the girls in your life…

Neptune: Who do you think bets fits what position on this list?

Jaune: What list?

SN: This one.

Jaune: Oh… well from left to right it would be…

Jaune: Blake, Yang, Weiss, Pyrrha, Neo, and Bleiss.

Neptune: ...?

Sun: ...?

Jaune: But, if you want them to be a bunch of milfs…

Sun: Excuse me…?

Neptune: Milfs?!

Jaune: Then it would be… again, from left to right…

Jaune: Willow. Raven, Terra, Summer, Salem, and Kali.

Sun: …?!

Neptune: …?!

Jaune: ...

Jaune: What?

Neptune: You said that with such confidence, and so quickly ...

Jaune: Yeah?

Sun: Like you already knew they would be perfect for the role...

Neptune: But, not just those six ladies…

Sun: But, a bunch of milfs as well…

Jaune: …

Sun: Does that mean…?

Jaune: …

Neptune: All t-twelve of them…?!

Jaune: ...

Jaune: No comment.

SN: ...

SN: YOU ARE A GOD!

Jaune: No comment.

[galdrgobrrr]

Country girl who has Got to stop the cycle of martyrdom

[rachetmath]

Emerald was Abused

Emerald: Jaune I'm sorry. I know I messed up and -

Jaune: *checking Emerald’s condition*

Emerald: What are you doing?

Jaune: Are you okay?

Emerald: Yeah.

Jaune: You sure? You're not hurt right?

Emerald: Yes Jaune I'm fine.

Jaune: Alright then. Come on.

Emerald: Wait, aren't you mad?

Jaune: Why? Why would I be mad?

Emerald: Because I messed up.

Jaune: How?

Emerald: Because I got caught.

Jaune: … … … Question; Um, did you get the info I needed?

Emerald: Yeah.

Jaune: Did you fold and tell anyone of your past or anything that could jeopardize our plan?

Emerald: No.

Jaune: Are you alive?

Emerald: Yes.

Jaune: Then what's there to apologize for? You're alive and I got my information. But more importantly you're alive which I appreciate even more than just getting ahead.

Emerald: Wait so you value my life? Even after everything I have done?

Jaune: I mean I will never forgive you for what you did in the past. But I am willing to give you a chance to do right in the present. That depends on you though. So until you give me a reason not to, yes, I value your life.

Emerald: … … …

Jaune: Why are you finding this hard to believe?

Emerald: …. …. …

Jaune: Has Cinder or Salem ever thanked you for anything? Mainly Cinder.

Emerald: … … …

Jaune: Okay I am getting scared to ask. What does Cinder do if you mess up? Talk out of line? Or say anything she doesn't want to hear?

Emerald: … …. ….

Jaune: Oh my god. I have another one. Emerald, do you have a favorite food? Do you want to eat out? My treat.

Emerald: Yeah… that would be nice.

Jaune: *sigh* I really need to kill that bitch. Or help Ruby, Winter or somebody do it because- oh my- the more I learn about her the more she doesn't deserve to live or breathe.

[juanarc-thethird]

What if...

Jaune was Salem's assistant.

Salem: I want you to get out there and finish off those girls now!

Jaune: What about dinner?

Salem: Jaune, this is kind of important.

Jaune: how about dessert?

Salem:... Well I suppose there is time for dessert.

Jaune: And coffee?

Salem: Alright, a quick cup of coffee. THEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND FINISH THE JOB!!!

[anthurak]

Okay so here’s a REAL fun little theory extrapolating from all the parallels we’ve been seeing more and more of between Ruby and Salem:

As I’ve said elsewhere, at this point I’m pretty confident that Salem is Ruby’s true, ultimate villainous counterpart/foil, in the sense that Salem represents the ‘fallen hero’ version of Ruby. That underneath all the bias, propaganda, outright lies and general unreliable narration that the God of Light fed to Ozma, we’re going to find out that Salem was effectively the Ruby of her time. Uniting all of humanity in a war against a seemingly insurmountable foe who threatened them with destruction.

So if Salem was the Ruby Rose of her time, what if she ALSO had her own parallels to Weiss, Blake and Yang? What if she had her own TEAM?

What if during her journeys in the wake of losing Ozma the second time (or even the first time), Salem gained three companions whom she grew to befriend, bond with and perhaps even love, platonically or otherwise. The first and closest of the countless friends, allies and followers that Salem would assemble and unite in her battles against the gods.

The three closest friends that Salem would LOSE when the God of Light decided that his creations turning against him meant they lost their ‘deserving to exist privileges’.

I mean for one, we see Salem specifically having three main members of her inner circle.

Like we’ve always assumed the repeated use of groups of four people traces back to Salem’s and Oz’s four daughters, but what if it goes back even further? What if the original huntress team was SALEM and her three closest compatriots?

Now if you’re wondering ‘If these people were so important, why didn’t we see them in Jinn’s vision?’, well two things:

One; because Ruby asked Jinn “What is Ozpin hiding from us?”, so I’m willing to bet that Jinn’s vision only represented the extent of what OZ knows and believes. And let’s not forget that he just so happened to be DEAD for 99.999% of Salem’s whole conflict with the gods, baring those collective ten or so seconds where he was being repeatedly revived and unrevived by Dark and Light. And it’s pretty clear that ALL of Oz’s information on what happened while he was dead came second hand from Light, or at least the vast majority of what he actually BELIEVES.

Especially when we consider that Salem’s account of what happened is summed up in five seconds as ‘She said the gods were to blame for everything but she was TOTALLY lying. Now don’t read anything more into that.’ And considering GoL’s whole spiel about Salem ‘manipulating’ everyone, it makes sense that he would omit things like her having actually loyal friends and allies. Or maybe Light simply couldn’t be arsed to care or remember anything that specific about the puny, ungrateful creations that dared to defy him.

And Two; I think even in Jinn’s unreliable-narration-laden vision, we actually DO have some potential candidates. Remember those three prominent leaders we see Salem recruiting to her cause?

A European-style monarch with blue eyes and flanked with blue banners.

An East-Asian styled queen with a flower motif.

And a buff warlord with a prominent gold and brown color scheme in both his clothing and surroundings.

Sure it’s not much, but I think it’s just enough to for these three to be potential narrative parallels to Weiss, Blake and Yang. And that is ESPECIALLY when we consider just how much of Salem’s story was omitted from Jinn’s vision. That what we’ve seen so far is just the extremely generalized, summarized, propagandized, skewed-in-favor-of-the-god-of-light-ized version. If/When we get a big ‘once more, with clarity’ look at Salem’s story, it might turn out that these three seemingly generic rulers were MUCH different and potentially have much more notable parallels to Weiss, Blake and Yang, just like Salem has to Ruby.

[maxiemumdamage]

I feel like the Grimm that were clearly Salem’s creations, rather than the Brother’s, are the most horrific and the most human in their horror.

Like, Beowolves, Ursai, Nevermores, those are just. Animals with some armor and a palette swap. Scary if they get in your face and try to maul you, but I don’t think they really linger in your mind unless they did something. At least as a viewer, I didn’t have much of a reaction to them.

On the other hand…The Chill? The Apathy? The Hound? The idea of being trapped in your own body, made helpless and maybe even being puppeted about to harm others is horrifying. Even the Seer Grimm is kind of haunting to me, just because of its proportions and tentacles and the idea it could watch you and listen to you for as long as it likes before attacking.

In some ways, the Grimm invented by Salem show how twisted she’s become…but they also show how she’s still in touch with her humanity. Still remembers being stripped of freedom and bodily autonomy and your very self as being one of the worst possible pains.

It’s almost poetic, how much humanity shows up in her most monstrous creations.

[rontra]

(guy who drew salem a week ago voice) i miss drawing salem

[erros429]

rwby textpost memes pt47!!! i miss my blorbos so much :(

[screaming-sparrow]

can you tell who my favorite rwby character is yet?

[bridgyrose]

Something I do vastly enjoy about RWBY is that while it is willing to show villains as horrible people, it's also willing to show them as human and how most were failed by society at some point to end up on this path.

Salem was failed by the gods, not because they wouldn't bring Ozma back, but because they never really understood the grief that Salem was going through and thought making her immortal would help her understand the importance of death.

Tyrian, as far as we can tell, is mentally unstable and never ended up with the help he needed. So once he met someone who was willing to save him and indulge in his desires to kill, he latched right onto it.

Hazel was also a victim of his own grief, unaware of how his sister died beyond a training accident and blaming Ozpin for it. He managed to find Salem, tried to kill her and only fell further into the idea that Ozpin had to be stopped.

Cinder was abused for most if not all of her childhood, promised a way out if only she could hold on. But with nothing to really help her with the abuse and finally snapping, Rhodes hadn't even tried to understand her situation, only seeing her kill and seeing it as enough to arrest her. Eventually killing him and finding Salem, everything she's done has been in the name of power and freedom because she's terrified of going back to that situation.

Neo and Roman both ended up as criminals due to a lack of love. Roman was orphaned and Neo's parents treated her as something that was broken.

Even Adam was failed, only ever given reasons to give into his frustrations and anger, eventually using it as a weapon to try to put humans beneath faunus after losing himself to his anger.

At any point things could've been different for most of them. Someone to lean on, someone to help them, maybe there could've been other paths for them.

[coinjarred]