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@mama-sunni here bitch *says lovingly*

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[alagaesia-headcanons]

A few times I've expressed how I feel like the later parts of the series really screw over Orrin and treat his character poorly. And I've seen some other people say similar things. But for a long while know, I've been conflicted about how exactly the books disservices him. Because, since writing this character analysis of him, I found that I don't disagree with the actual things he says and does. Like I mentioned there, I think the way his composure crumbles and how he becomes more aggressive and unreasonable makes a lot of sense in the context of what he's going through. He's lost everyone and he turns to drinking as anger and fear eat away at him. I think it works as a character arc, albeit a very sad one. And yet, I still get the feeling of the books doing wrong by Orrin and I've been trying to wrap my mind around why.

I was rereading the scene where Orrin wants to send an envoy to Uru'baen and Roran demands that he doesn't. Initially, I felt like this was one of the few moments where it does feel out of character for him, simply for the story to paint him in an exaggeratedly bad light. But I tried to reason out in what way it maybe could be in character (because I live for that). And it clicked into place. Orrin says it right there! "'But they can see us,' protested Orrin. 'We're camped right outside their walls. It would be... rude not to send an envoy to state our position. You are both commoners; I would not expect you to understand. Royalty demands certain courtesies, even if we are at war.'"

The issue at hand here is that Roran is arguing that sending an envoy to Galbatorix might provoke him to attack them. What Orrin is saying is that, as opposed to Roran and Jormundur, he knows what a king would expect to deal with when under attack, which includes envoys. If it would be perceived as rude and disrespectful to not send one, that insult could just as well be provoke Galbatorix into attacking. It makes perfect sense that, if Orrin sees this as a courtesy a king would feel entitled to, he believes it would be dangerous to risk slighting Galbatorix by failing to do it. Roran tells him, "'I won't let you endanger the rest of us just to satisfy your royal... pride.'" But it seems infinitely more likely that Orrin is attempting to satisfy Galbatorix's royal pride. I do think that not sending an envoy is a bit more sensible because, as Roran says, Galbatorix was born a commoner and likely has his own expectations (though what he goes on to say has flaws), but Orrin is still raising a very fair point by arguing that they should send one. And honestly, given what we see of Galbatorix, I don't think there was any danger of an envoy provoking him either.

But the more important thing about that realization that struck me is that I read that section at least 6 times before it occurred to me. I read it over and over while thinking "Orrin's argument doesn't make any sense, I don't know why he's saying this" before realizing it actually makes perfect sense. And it's because I believe that the true way that the series disservices Orrin's character is through the bias of the other characters and their narrations. This exchange is written in Roran's POV and it's riddled with his derision towards Orrin, his insistence that he's wrong, that he'll get them killed, and his overall very low opinion of him which colors how he sees all of Orrin's acts. And Jormundur shares his distaste and expresses his own.

Out of curiosity, I cut everything but the dialogue (sans 2 irrelevant lines) to see how it would read. It's very different; it shows how Orrin is reasonable at the start and how unwarranted Roran's combative and brazenly insulting response is. It really changes this scene from "Roran heroically saving everyone from the fallout of Orrin's stupid, careless choice," and reveals that it's just an argument- unhelpful and devolving where they both end up making inappropriate mistakes, one after the other.

Of course, there are real issues with Orrin's actions, in this case namely that his very wound up fear and frustration make him intensely volatile, enough that he tries to attack Roran here. That is egregious. But then that's compounded upon by all these other "flaws" perceived by the other characters in such an exaggerated way to the point of being fabricated. Roran sees him as dangerously stupid and vainglorious for wanting to send an envoy, despite putting absolutely no effort into learning his reason. It's just real rich that Roran then thinks, "Orrin was like a yearling mule: stubborn, overconfident, and all too willing to kick you in the gut if you gave him the opportunity." Lmao! Bitch look in the mirror, that's literally you!!!

This kind of depiction epitomizes Orrin's presence through the entire series. Every single POV characters has reason to be against him, starting with Nasuada. As a result of both of their respective positions, she sees him as a potential threat and obstacle to her goals. Through his connection to her, Eragon sees him the same way and Saphira follows suit. And Roran adopts the opinion of his cousin and his commander. So all of the POV characters are adverse to Orrin, but also, so is every single background character.

There is no one to offer or even contemplate a differing opinion in the face of the main characters' unilateral distaste. Once, literally once do we see Orrin talking to another Surdan. He gets a single line in the scene where Nasuada is appointed leader of their combined forces. Never again. We never see him interact with anyone not predisposed against him. None of his advisors, his soldiers, his friends. Every moment of Orrin's life involving the people who'd have a basis to get along with, or even like him go unseen by the entire story. And on the other side, that also means we never get to see how Orrin would interact with anyone without an incentive to work against him. So the narrative's bias against Orrin goes completely uninterrupted and unchallenged. It shows itself virtually every time he's present.

That is why the series feels so unfair towards Orrin, because in order to understand his actual intentions, it demands that the reader consider a perspective that the story refuses to ever provide. It requires ignoring perspectives that narrate everything and then giving a great deal of focus to Orrin's actions in isolation. It sets him up to be misunderstood and disliked because the easiest way to read his story is to follow along with the misunderstanding and dislike all the other characters express. The books actively obscure the true nature of Orrin's character.

[uluthrek]

inheritance cycle modern au in which all of the dragons are horses which makes eragon the underdog horse girl, saphira the underdog girl horse and brom the disgruntled and disillusioned horse trainer who doesn’t believe in the validity of this sport until he sees the ✨bond✨ eragon has with his horse saphira who is still as blue as she is in canon (don’t ask that‘s just how it works, if you question this, i‘ll track your ip).

and galbatorix is the aggressively eastern european horse girl dad who had some sort of hip injury that brought his eventing career to an abrupt end and now he must vicariously live through his protégé, murtagh, lest he kills himself. and thorn is the very expensive horse galbatorix bought for wish fulfillment purposes and murtagh and thorn are so horribly traumatized by all the stress and pressure of defeating little kids at the pony finals that they ✨bond✨.

oromis and glaedr are their direct opponents and galbatorix nancy kerrigan‘s them (oromis dies like he does canonically because honestly, hunters be like that) so murtagh can get his ribbon. and then there‘s the big final competition and eragon, underdog wonder magic horse girl, goes toe to toe with murtagh, tortured champion to be, and they have this epic horse battle (an 80cm clear round but the atmosphere is very intense) and eragon loses. but then brom delivers this epic speech about idk man like success and passion and whatnot and then he dies which gives eragon the final push to defeat murtagh but OH NO, thorn is HURT from being OVERWORKED and murtagh has an epic horse peril breakdown and tearfully tells galbatorix he‘ll withdraw.

so galbatorix goes „fuck the kid“ and gets shruikan (the very bad very big black warmblood stallion that shows up in every horse girl movie) to best eragon HIMSELF (but not before locking nasuada, the animal rights activist that murtagh has struck up a tentative romance with, in a porta-potty). and then him and eragon compete and it‘s INTENSE (meanwhile, roran and katrina have a sub plot about capturing a flock of runaway ducks that is constantly being cut to during that climactic scene) and shit is looking DISMAL for poor eragon until a vision of brom and also his dead mother, because this is a proper horse girl movie and not some bibi und tina bullshit, and that gives him the strength to defeat galbatorix.

and then he wins and thorn doesn’t die and someone frees nasuada from the porta-potty and she gets to punch galbatorix in the face. and fírnen (who is a horse but also still green) emerges during the post credit scene and meets arya and sets up a cash grabby amazon prime spinoff series and roran and katrina successfully capture the ducks and everyone is happy and there is no more horse peril.

the whole thing takes place in exactly one horse show afternoon. it makes such perfect sense actually you can fit everyone in. nar garzvog‘s at the grill and makes hot dogs. islanzadi does nothing but drink cheap wine and bitch from the sidelines. angela mans the beverage stall and tells everyone who wants to listen (or doesn’t) that toads don’t exist. solembum is the raccoon on her shoulder who violates all fda guidelines by simply existing. orrin is nasuada‘s bitter ex boyfriend who pretended to be vegan for years so she‘d like him only to be dumped for murtagh and his emo swagger in a heartbeat. orik is a shetland pony.

[modern-inheritance]

MIC Shorts and Snippets

I've tried to organize these but I may have gone overboard. There's probably a lot more of these floating around but I can't find them all due to Tumblr's shit search feature. That's why we're getting this page. I'm terrible at updating these things but I'll try!

For A Future Story

Their Hatchlings (#1)

Dance Lessons (#2)

Let It Out (#3)

Unfortunate Encounter (#4)

Snippy Attitudes Run in the Family (#5)

Some Credit Pre Established Relationship ExA (#6)

Well Met (#7)

Pre-War/Pre-Eragon

Kill

Workaround

At Ease

Gil'ead Time Period

Loooooom (mostly a bit of fun)

An Attempt (Will possibly be expanded later)

The Escape Series (most of these are likely going to appear in the actual stories when I finally sit down and write them)

A Choice of Words

That Doesn't Seem Physically Possible

Lake

Earned

You Did Good, Girl

Eragon Post-Escape

Understanding

Elf Operating License Revoked (not really canon, just some fun)

Racketball

Eldest

Shotglass

When the Sun's Gone Out

A Word from the Worldly

Bud Like You (semi-canon)

Spittake

Bad Reaction

Shared (post Arya and Iz Reconciliation)

Brisingr

Dark Humor

A Simple Matter of Luck

Inheritance/The Extended War MIC Timeline

Hand-to-Hand

When You're Not Fine

Cracked Armor

Experimental

Piece By Piece

Batshit On The Battlefield

Vinr Älfakyn (OMG Roran's debut!)

[sparklepirate]

So to those of you that know me you know these are very Exciting Times regarding a certain beloved book series of mine

But uh, for those who don't, the Inheritance Cycle looks like it's getting a new entry very soon starring (my dearly beloved) Murtagh and Thorn, and while that isn't 100% confirmed yet, and won't be until likely Wednesday, it's, like... 99% confirmed. And I am jumping out of my skin.

I used to blog about my reading back in the day when I was reading Harry Potter (ew) but I think I'm gonna bring that back because it was fun. I'm rereading the Inheritance Cycle to jog my memory and I'm having a lot of fun and I have some Opinions™️ so I'm just gonna start posting shit. I really should have started this sooner because I'm already like 2/3 of the way through Eldest but eh oh well.

And I'd like to kick this off by saying dude Birgit kicks fuckin' ass. She is a character I completely forgot about but I kind of love her?? She's definitely my favorite member of Roran's Carvahall entourage.

[inheritance-cycles]

The Inheritance squad, planning their Final Battle Strategy:

Islanzadi: You said you had a plan, Shadeslayer?

Eragon: Yes, your majesty. I actually have a couple. The first one would require, essentially, a magical Elf Chandelier where-

Arya: -NOPE!

Eragon: You didn’t even let me finish!

Nasuada: ...That may be, but I agree with Arya. We’ve already heard enough. Why don’t you tell us about your second plan?

Eragon, grumbling: FINE. My second idea, as long as Elva agrees to it, is to throw her at Galbatorix so she can talk some emotions into him... Namely empathy and compassion. I call this one: “Plan Yeet Elva.”

Orik: A very self-explanatory name, that.

Roran, trying not to laugh but failing: Y-you said you have prepared a couple possible strategies right? If you have any more I think it best to lay them all on the table now, so we can make the decision well-informed.

Eragon: Right. My last idea is admittedly a little shaky, but I think it could still have potential. I call it: “The Father Zone.” You send me in alone, and I look The king straight in the eye and tell him, sincerely, mind you, that he’s “just like a father to me.” Then we let nature take its course. He should be dead within 3-5 business days.

Arya: ...

Orin: ...

Roran: ...

Orik: ...

Saphira: ...

Nasuada: ...

Islanzadi: ...

Blodhgarm: ...

Arya, pinching the bridge of her nose: The fucking Magical Elf Chandelier it is, then.

[ace-and-ranty]

Yeah, in hindsight I was a bit too young to be reading those books, but at the time i preferred the ya section at my local library to the books at my elementary school. i picked eragon because it was long enough to take me multiple days to read and dragons sounded cool to me. i still have some of my fifth grade book reports where i drew maps for when roran was traveling, or when i had to explain what the ra’zac were. the more gruesome stuff was more exciting to me than scary (the gone series scarred me much worse in middle school).

but yeah i loved those books, i just felt like the ending wasn’t really an ending. i felt no closure and i was mad that eragon was leaving everyone (especially arya!) behind. i searched all over for any sign that there would be a sequel series because i felt it was unfair to end it that way. but maybe a reread would do me some good now that i’m an adult ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, if you do decide to do a reread, you could try The Fork, The Witch and the Worm!

(Every time I type this, I try to type “The Fork, The Witch and the Wardrobe”, LOL)

It’s not a sequel, per se, but it does catch us up a bit on Eragon post-series. If you wanna just check that out, you can probably only read the Eragon scenes at, like, the bookstore. It’s not long at all.

I, personally, was heartbroken at the Eragon Leaves plot, but heartbroken in a good “Oh it’s so tragic, oh, my heart!!!” way and not “The fuck shit writing is this”. Specially because it was foreshadowed to like, hell and back, haha

I liked everything else. Probably because it avoided the thing that I hate The Most in endings, which is when the main tension of the story is solved and suddenly it all ends with barely any time for us to enjoy the world post-tension.

Like, if they had killed Galbatorix, and it ended a chapter later, I would have been disappointed. But instead we got a load of chapters tying up smaller looser ends, exploring an Alagaesia post-Galbatorix, and saying goodbye to our loved ones as Eragon also said goodbye. 

Also, this is just personal headcanon, but you can’t convince me there won’t be a time when Arya gets to abdicate and fuck off to be a rider in the new HQ. They’re immortal. It’s Gonna Happen. 

[silverskye13]

So I heard the bridge scene was suppose to go so much worse than it did. But you had to cut some action out because he couldn’t really survive that. Mind telling us some terror you were ready to dump on us?

I’ve gotten an ask sorta like this twice already for the prompts so I was gonna hold off on saying anything, but since I’ve gotten three asks I’ll go ahead and tell ya’ll.

//loud shrugging// might as well. Info under the cut, in case anyone doesn’t wanna see it yet!

During the bridge scene, Thistle was originally going to have archery-based magic. And the idea was she was going to actually hit him so hard he fell off the bridge. I actually drew a thing about it once.

[the original link to the post here since Tumblr won’t let me hyperlink the image]

Hhhhh hello 2016 art. God this story has been going on forever. Anyway. I have like… a soft spot for characters being injured with arrows for some reason. Probably because they kinda have a way of bringing invincible characters down, either through inconvenience or magic or… whatever.

[That one scene in Inheritance where Roran get’s shot and it’s like the first time the readers go “oh shit he’s a badass that’s not supposed to happen!” anyone?]

And I really really liked the idea for this scene that Thistle couldn’t beat Grillby by facing him head on so the next best solution is throwing him off the bridge somehow. But at the end of the day I couldn’t figure out how the heckle Grillby would survive so I just cut it out entirely. Thistle was OP enough as it was without a bunch of magic arrows in her arsenal, and her character ended up being prideful enough that she wouldn’t want to cheap shot an elemental. She wants to be able to take this story back and brag about how fucking cool she is.

So meh. I still plan on writing out a prompt for it. But now you know the gist.

[certifiedsimper]

Yall know when you have those dreams that you like leave someone behind and you like cry? Yeah that was me last night

[alagaesia-headcanons]

Sorry I snatched this screenshot from a different post, but this drives me insane and I don’t want to derail that post

*adds this to the list of reasons I would throw hands with chris*

Inheritance is the titular theme of the Inheritance Cycle, yet Paolini seems so incredibly inconsistent about what he wants to say about it. On one hand, the series has so many examples of how circumstances can frequently push children into the roles their parents once had, either willingly or forcefully. A lot of the growth of the characters and themes comes from the idea that such fates aren’t binding and these people can leave behind the roles of their parents by growing beyond them and making something entirely their own or by rejecting the role entirely and carving a new path outright. It’s a theme that means a lot to me and think is very valuable to consider for the truth it carries and the beauty of the idea that our lives are our own to shape.

And then he turns around and says shit like this that undermines all of that.

The idea that Eragon inherited his determination and his “deep seated sense of what’s right and wrong” from Selena makes me so mad. Morals are not inherited. Remember, Selena didn’t raise Eragon at all. She left right after he was born. She had no influence on his upbringing. To declare that she passed on such complex moral characteristics by merit of having conceived and given birth to him is so reductive.

This does a disservice to the people that actually interacted with Eragon as he grew up. If anyone had a formative affect on Eragon’s personality, it would likely be Garrow and Marian first and foremost. And after that, Roran growing up along side him and the rest of the villagers he interacted with frequently. These people around him are the ones who could pass on their knowledge, their experience, and their beliefs.

But far more important than that, enough to make that close to irrelevant, it that this does and incredible disservice to Eragon himself. Despite the influence of the people who were actually around him, it is still up to him to decide how he wants to live and what he considers important. Throughout the series we see as Eragon fights with himself to figure out how to use the power suddenly thrust upon him, for example, when he makes the choice to prioritize his service to the Varden and subsequent training with the elves out of his devotion to the peoples of Alagaesia as a whole over his quest to slay the Ra’zac out of a sense of loyalty to his family. He has to examine himself to understand why that desire to fight for (what he sees as) the greater good of the public is the most important to him and what he is willing to do to achieve that.

We see him struggle when presented with people who have moral systems different than his own, such as Murtagh, who feels no obligation towards a large group or a ideological cause, but has an incredibly loyalty and devotion to the individuals he loves. And Roran, who, in the end, fights for the same cause as Eragon does, but for wildly different reasons based on the wellbeing of a smaller group and the immediate, tangible things they need to be cared for, like housing, food, and safety from military threats.

Eragon’s sense of right or wrong, is not inherited because it’s not innate. I wouldn’t even say it’s deep seated. It changes. It’s something he learned as he grew and then had to personally refine as it wavered and strengthened and shifted in response to the far reaching dilemmas he found himself in. It was a journey Eragon had to personally take when formerly abstract ideas of what is good and what is evil became much more tangible when he became a Dragon Rider with incredibly influence. It’s not a journey anyone did or could have taken for him.

How Paolini managed to write all that and then just say he got his moral compass from his absent mom is beyond me. It’s a condemnation.

This idea degrades a persons autonomy. It declares that even something as deeply personal as morality is subject to an outside force, to someone else, and not something built and shaped by our own actions. This idea binds people to the character of their parents, which seems benign and inoffensive enough when talking about positive characteristics, but it implies vile things about those with bad parents.

Sorry for being a prick and quoting myself, but I touched on something similar to this in another post about Murtagh and said, what does it mean to say, “Oh, you aren’t like your father, so you’re not damned to follow his path; you’re like your mother instead!”

I think the temptation is to attribute good characteristics of children to parents as something those children can then depend upon as something innate that they don’t have to struggle for and something that won’t fail them. It makes things nice and simple. But that’s not true, it never is, and the idea falls apart when considering the possible inheritance of negative traits. Using Murtagh as an example, cherry picking positive traits from Selena that he has in common to negate the idea that he got negative traits from Morzan is still damning him to the exact same idea that he is solely a product of his parents and that his actions don’t truly belong to him. Murtagh literally states that his frustration in being compared to Morzan isn’t because he’s being compared to someone who did horrible things, it’s that he isn’t being regarded as an individual who can make his own choices independent of someone else’s influence. He longs to be seen as his own person, not a continuation of someone else.

Attributing Murtagh’s qualities to Selena, or Eragon’s, or any other character’s qualities to their parent is continuing the exact same problem, no matter how complimentary the comparison may seem at first glance. Morals are not inherited, they are learned through the world and our experiences as we go through it. The books do a great job of showing this in many places which makes me even more angry and sad to see the author himself say things like this. I think it demands a critical eye not just in the way that we view these characters, but how it relates to the way we see real people.

These are just my thoughts for consideration if you want them.

Edit: got the source of the screenshot just bc I wanted it here

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Im bored so here's an opinion from a movie that has a small fan base on here

SO In The Black Phone we know the main people everyone talk about more as in being Vance, Robin, Finney, Bruce in that order too! but the only time I really see anything for Bruce is when he's being shipped. This is an appreciation post for Billy Showalter, Griffin Stagg, Bruce Yamada and Gwendolyn Blake. The legends of underrated characters

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2 thing today that make me feel old!!

It is Rory Culkin s birthday again like stop growing you old man

Barbie movie is officially one year old

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Where'd the other bots go?? 😭😭😭😭

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BRUV I JUST POSTED IT CHILL

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THEY TURNED HER INTO A BRACELET NOOOOOOOO 😭😭