#romani cob

[hybeana]

[revon-aurora-borealis]

im not a gimmick account but i think that horse is a draft breed of sorts, from the looks of it they arent a large draft, so theyre prolly some kind of pony draft breed

as for their coat they are piebald black and white pinto with either a blaze or a bald marking on their face

i cant see the their sex unfortunately

huh maybe i should become a gimmick account... that was fun :)

Edit: i think i found what breed they could possibly be, im not 100% on this, more 60% sure

horse pulling a very odd looking carriage in fact it appears to be a car upon a wheeled platform and even more surprisingly there seems to be a man in there this is a truly puzzling image

[piosplayhouse]

Pleasantly surprised Breyer's new premium release refers to the breed as just the Vanner and says Irish and Romani Travellers! Hopefully this pushes the renaming movement further

[johnnyslittleanimalblog]

Fur-nomenal Feather by Melody Via Flickr: Bear belongs to Desert Jewel Gypsy Horses. www.djwwgypsyhorses.com This photograph was taken by XSIGHT - www.xsightusa.com

[quinndecker]

Monty and his horse Nachtnebel (or just Bell for short). Monty is a horse girl. No I will not elaborate.

[dykepuffs]

How Do I Make My Fictional Gypsies Not Racist?

(Or, "You can't, sorry, but…")

You want to include some Gypsies in your fantasy setting. Or, you need someone for your main characters to meet, who is an outsider in the eyes of the locals, but who already lives here. Or you need a culture in conflict with your settled people, or who have just arrived out of nowhere. Or, you just like the idea of campfires in the forest and voices raised in song. And you’re about to step straight into a muckpile of cliches and, accidentally, write something racist.

(In this, I am mostly using Gypsy as an endonym of Romany people, who are a subset of the Romani people, alongside Roma, Sinti, Gitano, Romanisael, Kale, etc, but also in the theory of "Gypsying" as proposed by Lex and Percy H, where Romani people are treated with a particular mix of orientalism, criminalisation, racialisation, and othering, that creates "The Gypsy" out of both nomadic peoples as a whole and people with Romani heritage and racialised physical features, languages, and cultural markers)

Enough of my friends play TTRPGs or write fantasy stories that this question comes up a lot - They mention Dungeons and Dragons’ Curse Of Strahd, World Of Darkness’s Gypsies, World Of Darkness’s Ravnos, World of Darkness’s Silent Striders… And they roll their eyes and say “These are all terrible! But how can I do it, you know, without it being racist?”

And their eyes are big and sad and ever so hopeful that I will tell them the secret of how to take the Roma of the real world and place them in a fictional one, whilst both appealing to gorjer stereotypes of Gypsies and not adding to the weight of stereotyping that already crushes us. So, disappointingly, there is no secret.

Gypsies, like every other real-world culture, exist as we do today because of interactions with cultures and geography around us: The living waggon, probably the archetypal thing which gorjer writers want to include in their portrayals of nomads, is a relatively modern invention - Most likely French, and adopted from French Showmen by Romanies, who brought it to Britain. So already, that’s a tradition that only spans a small amount of the time that Gypsies have existed, and only a small number of the full breadth of Romani ways of living. But the reasons that the waggon is what it is are based on the real world - The wheels are tall and iron-rimmed, because although you expect to travel on cobbled, tarmac, or packed-earth roads and for comparatively short distances, it wasn’t rare to have to ford a river in Britain in the late nineteenth century, on country roads. They were drawn by a single horse, and the shape of that horse was determined by a mixture of local breeds - Welsh cobs, fell ponies, various draft breeds - as well as by the aesthetic tastes of the breeders. The stove inside is on the left, so that as you move down a British road, the chimney sticks up into the part where there will be the least overhanging branches, to reduce the chance of hitting it.

So taking a fictional setting that looks like (for example) thirteenth century China (with dragons), and placing a nineteenth century Romanichal family in it will inevitably result in some racist assumptions being made, as the answer to “Why does this culture do this?” becomes “They just do it because I want them to” rather than having a consistent internal logic.

Some stereotypes will always follow nomads - They appear in different forms in different cultures, but they always arise from the settled people's same fears: That the nomads don't share their values, and are fundamentally strangers. Common ones are that we have a secret language to fool outsiders with, that we steal children and disguise them as our own, that our sexual morals are shocking (This one has flipped in the last half century - From the Gypsy Lore Society's talk of the lascivious Romni seductress who will lie with a strange man for a night after a 'gypsy wedding', to today's frenzied talk of 'grabbing' and sexually-conservative early marriages to ensure virginity), that we are supernatural in some way, and that we are more like animals than humans. These are tropes where if you want to address them, you will have to address them as libels - there is no way to casually write a baby-stealing, magical succubus nomad without it backfiring onto real life Roma. (The kind of person who has the skills to write these tropes well, is not the kind of person who is reading this guide.)

It’s too easy to say a list of prescriptive “Do nots”, which might stop you from making the most common pitfalls, but which can end up with your nomads being slightly flat as you dance around the topics that you’re trying to avoid, rather than being a rich culture that feels real in your world.

So, here are some questions to ask, to create your nomadic people, so that they will have a distinctive culture of their own that may (or may not) look anything like real-world Romani people: These aren't the only questions, but they're good starting points to think about before you make anything concrete, and they will hopefully inspire you to ask MORE questions.

First - Why are they nomadic? Nobody moves just to feel the wind in their hair and see a new horizon every morning, no matter what the inspirational poster says. Are they transhumant herders who pay a small rent to graze their flock on the local lord’s land? Are they following migratory herds across common land, being moved on by the cycle of the seasons and the movement of their animals? Are they seasonal workers who follow man-made cycles of labour: Harvests, fairs, religious festivals? Are they refugees fleeing a recent conflict, who will pass through this area and never return? Are they on a regular pilgrimage? Do they travel within the same area predictably, or is their movement governed by something that is hard to predict? How do they see their own movements - Do they think of themselves as being pushed along by some external force, or as choosing to travel? Will they work for and with outsiders, either as employees or as partners, or do they aim to be fully self-sufficient? What other jobs do they do - Their whole society won’t all be involved in one industry, what do their children, elderly, disabled people do with their time, and is it “work”?

If they are totally isolationist - How do they produce the things which need a complex supply chain or large facilities to make? How do they view artefacts from outsiders which come into their possession - Things which have been made with technology that they can’t produce for themselves? (This doesn’t need to be anything about quality of goods, only about complexity - A violin can be made by one artisan working with hand tools, wood, gut and shellac, but an accordion needs presses to make reeds, metal lathes to make screws, complex organic chemistry to make celluloid lacquer, vulcanised rubber, and a thousand other components)

How do they feel about outsiders? How do they buy and sell to outsiders? If it’s seen as taboo, do they do it anyway? Do they speak the same language as the nearby settled people (With what kind of fluency, or bilingualism, or dialect)? Do they intermarry, and how is that viewed when it happens? What stories does this culture tell about why they are a separate people to the nearby settled people? Are those stories true? Do they have a notional “homeland” and do they intend to go there? If so, is it a real place?

What gorjers think of as classic "Gipsy music" is a product of our real-world situation. Guitar from Spain, accordions from the Soviet Union (Which needed modern machining and factories to produce and make accessible to people who weren't rich- and which were in turn encouraged by Soviet authorities preferring the standardised and modern accordion to the folk traditions of the indigenous peoples within the bloc), brass from Western classical traditions, via Balkan folk music, influences from klezmer and jazz and bhangra and polka and our own music traditions (And we influence them too). What are your people's musical influences? Do they make their own instruments or buy them from settled people? How many musical traditions do they have, and what are they all for (Weddings, funerals, storytelling, campfire songs, entertainment...)? Do they have professional musicians, and if so, how do those musicians earn money? Are instrument makers professionals, or do they use improvised and easy-to-make instruments like willow whistles, spoons, washtubs, etc? (Of course the answer can be "A bit of both")

If you're thinking about jobs - How do they work? Are they employed by settled people (How do they feel about them?) Are they self employed but providing services/goods to the settled people? Are they mostly avoidant of settled people other than to buy things that they can't produce themselves? Are they totally isolationist? Is their work mostly subsistence, or do they create a surplus to sell to outsiders? How do they interact with other workers nearby? Who works, and how- Are there 'family businesses', apprentices, children with part time work? Is it considered 'a job' or just part of their way of life? How do they educate their children, and is that considered 'work'? How old are children when they are considered adult, and what markers confer adulthood? What is considered a rite of passage?

When they travel, how do they do it? Do they share ownership of beasts of burden, or each individually have "their horse"? Do families stick together or try to spread out? How does a child begin to live apart from their family, or start their own family? Are their dwellings something that they take with them, or do they find places to stay or build temporary shelter with disposable material? Who shares a dwelling and why? What do they do for privacy, and what do they think privacy is for?

If you're thinking about food - Do they hunt? Herd? Forage? Buy or trade from settled people? Do they travel between places where they've sown crops or managed wildstock in previous years, so that when they arrive there is food already seeded in the landscape? How do they feel about buying food from settled people, and is that common? If it's frowned upon - How much do people do it anyway? How do they preserve food for winter? How much food do they carry with them, compared to how much they plan to buy or forage at their destinations? How is food shared- Communal stores, personal ownership?

Why are they a "separate people" to the settled people? What is their creation myth? Why do they believe that they are nomadic and the other people are settled, and is it correct? Do they look different? Are there legal restrictions on them settling? Are there legal restrictions on them intermixing? Are there cultural reasons why they are a separate people? Where did those reasons come from? How long have they been travelling? How long do they think they've been travelling? Where did they come from? Do they travel mostly within one area and return to the same sites predictably, or are they going to move on again soon and never come back?

And then within that - What about the members of their society who are "unusual" in some way: How does their society treat disabled people? (are they considered disabled, do they have that distinction and how is it applied?) How does their society treat LGBT+ people? What happens to someone who doesn't get married and has no children? What happens to someone who 'leaves'? What happens to young widows and widowers? What happens if someone just 'can't fit in'? What happens to someone who is adopted or married in? What happens to people who are mixed race, and in a fantasy setting to people who are mixed species? What is taboo to them and what will they find shocking if they leave? What is society's attitude to 'difference' of various kinds?

Basically, if you build your nomads from the ground-up, rather than starting from the idea of "I want Gypsies/Buryats/Berbers/Minceiri but with the numbers filed off and not offensive" you can end up with a rich, unique nomadic culture who make sense in your world and don't end up making a rod for the back of real-world cultures.

[junkyardstray]

galineers cob / romani cob

[skywitchmaja]

horse girl era

inspo (along with other Reddit posts and a stupid amount of horse research)

Rarity and Sweetie Belle as grey lipizzans mostly because I thought it was cool that they’re born black and turn white as they get older, and they seem fancy and elegant and I think it suits them. I imagine sweetie belle would be a pale dapple grey when she gets older.

Pinkie Pie as a Romani cob/haflinger cross (which I misspelled on the image oops) because I wanted her to have some resemblance to applejack because they’re related, but I also thought she should be pony-ish with a fluffy mane and tail and slightly off putting pale blue eyes. also bc of friendship is witchcraft.

fluttershy as palomino selle francais because I had to keep her buttery yellow color and because “French haute couture please”. and I think having her as a gaited walking horse is a good counterpoint to rainbow as a race horse.

Applejack and apple bloom as Appaloosa draft crosses bc I couldn’t decide between Appaloosa patterns (and puns) and that sturdy draft build

Rainbow dash as a thoroughbred (which I also misspelled. damn.) bc fast. and dapple because it looks like rain and clouds

Scootaloo as a red dun quarter horse because they’re not as fast as thoroughbreds or other race horses but they’re popular for barrel racing and western trick stuff, which suits her scooter stunts I think. Also I couldn’t not have a quarter horse in the mix.

Twilight as a bay Arabian because they’re fancy/aristocratic. I also thought about barb or Andalusian but I couldn’t resist the distinctive silhouette

[insecquidae]

The Irish Vanner!

Normally, they are know by their other name which is normally used as a derogatory term against the Romani people, but why call them that when you can call them the Irish Vanner? Or Tinker Horse? Or Irish Cob, Traditional Cob, or even Galineers Cob? I love Tinker Horse personally, so cute n silly!

Here is a silly little fun fact about these beauties! They can grow mustaches!

Such silly lil things!

These horses came from Ireland and Great Britain. They are a cross between native ponies and drafties, making them great for pulling carts n carriages.

Ok, shorter post, will probably make a longer one about them later, but for now! Thank you for coming to my horsie talk

[heroes-of-lemuria]

hey i’m from the “they made stallion quartermane real” post and i saw u know a lot about horses

would you be willing to share more horse facts? 👀

Oh geez, thank you haha! Admittedly, I wouldn’t say I know much about horses, I just love to google animal facts, always try and find real animals to directly base anthro characters on (so I do a lot of that for wizard guys, picking specific species / breeds ), and remember a bit from the ag classes I took in high school. Horse people feel free to correct me but take what I’m saying here with a grain of salt. I’m trying to back up everything I’m saying with some cursory google searches but I am far from a horse expert 😭

Because Stallion was brought up I guess I can talk about anything I mildly know / hc regarding him? For example I went with the Irish Cob for my personal hc for him (these guys have 1000 names. You might have heard them called the Galineers Cob, the tinker horse, or about 5 other names all of which have slurs for Romani peoples in them l, but seem to be what they’re most commonly known as. I tend to go for Irish cob)

They’re a draft breed from the Great Britain and Ireland, and while wizzy doesn’t always fully 1:1 where their anthros are from, it’s a bonus for me. (Soley off of physical descriptions, he could be a Suffolk punch as well … hmm)

I say he’s based on a draft breed, which you can tell from the leg feathering he has, which from my understanding whole all horses have some, the really prominent leg feathers are a trait characteristic of draft breeds. (Also I just personally really prefer draft breeds myself, I like how big and heavyset they are.) From what I can gather, this is because the gene that causes them to grow so prominently is tied to bone density, and draft horses bred for strength to pull plows and carriages have much thicker bones than lighter horse breeds that have been bred more for speed.

Irish Cobs are characteristically hairier than other breeds, which is why they’re known to grow those mustaches. (Googles telling me it’s mainly because of how hairy they are, but they also might help add added sensation to their lips to help them browse for food) The mustache and beard really made me go yeah that’s the stupid horse for me, plus they come in the coloration with blonde-whitish manes and tails and a reddish body color, called flaxen chestnut from what I can find (though maybe its closer to some golden palominos? I don’t know)

Nothing else particular interesting is coming to mind unfortunately. Stallions weird boots he wears kind of resemble certain types of boots made for actual horses? I’m finding conflicting reports on what these are used for. Some places saying tendon support, others saying there’s nothing to support that, and they’re used to correct gait abnormalities. Either way. Stallion do you have bad ankles. It’s ok you can tell me.

(Also stallion has a boot tread texture on the bottom of his hooves, but I think this is stupid so I ignore it. Especially because the snow shoes we see in madness mountain have horse shoes attached to them, what’s the truth kingsisle?!? But I think it’s a funny detail to point out anyway.)

I googled fun horse facts to try to find anything else I could offer, and one of these fact Infographics said “baby horses drink milk” which is hysterical to me to point out as a fact.

[foxsumo]

The Gypsy Horse, also known as the Irish Cob or Tinker Horse, is a breed that originated in the British Isles. They are known for their distinctive feathering on their legs, long manes and tails, and their ability to pull heavy loads. Gypsy Horses are generally between 13 and 16 hands in height and can weigh between 1,000 and 2,000 pounds. They have a stocky, compact build and a kind, gentle nature, making them well-suited for novice riders and families. Historically, Gypsy Horses were used by the Romani people as traveling wagons and cart horses. Today, they are popular for their versatility and are used for various equestrian disciplines, including driving, trail riding, and dressage. Gypsy Horses are known for their loyalty, intelligence, and friendly disposition, which make them excellent companions for horse lovers of all ages.

[dustyphantom]

I just recently saw some art of a Steven Universe Centaur AU so of course I have to do breed headcanons like the nerdy equestrian I am.

Diamonds - Thoroughbred

Pearls - Akhal-Teke

Amethyst - Irish cob/Romani cob

Ruby - Shetland

Sapphire - Connemara

Peridot - Hackney pony

Lapis - Holsteiner

Jasper - Belgian draft

Rose Quartz - Suffolk Punch

Bismuth - Sugarbush draft

[wandaluvstacos]

Hello :) my favourite horse is the irish cob, would these be the same as the gypsy vanner or are they related breeds?

you know I almost immediately answered this but then I google imaged it and realized what I in America think and Irish Cob is may be different than what an Irish Cob is considered in the UK (could be like how Belgians in Europe are an entirely different breed than Belgians in the US).

Because when I think Irish Cob, I think of this, which I realize now may just be an Irish Draught:

But in Ireland it seems like the Irish Cob is this:

which looks very similar to a Gypsy Vanner/Tinker horse! So it could just be a matter of different countries calling the same horse breed two different things. I know it has Romani origin (I think that's why people are pushing to use "Tinker" and not "Gypsy" Vanner, though people still mostly use Gypsy Vanner), so it would make sense that it comes from the UK.

What's funny is that Tinker horses are insanely expensive in the US for pretty much no reason outside of "Pretty!" while in the UK they're just considered your average kid's horse or horses used by the Romani to get around. I think they'd consider Americans crazy for paying $10k for one lol.

[johnnyslittleanimalblog]

He's just so cute by Melody Via Flickr: A little palomino colt called Lush and his orangey mother. This photograph is owned by Coates Gypsy Horses, England. www.gypsyhorses.co.uk Now for sale with Desert Jewel Gypsy Horses. www.djwwgypsyhorses.com

[atletasudando]

Récord sudamericano u20 del vallista Vinicius de Brito

Fuente: CBAT Vinicius de Brito brilló en la primera jornada del atletismo en los Juegos Brasileños de la Juventud al ganar los 110 m vallas con récord brasileño y sudamericano sub-18, este sábado 2 de septiembre , en la pista del Academia de la Fuerza Aérea, en la ciudad de Pirassununga. Vinícius de Brito (Acarisul) ganó la medalla de oro en 13,20 (1,7 m/s). Los juegos del Comité Olímpico Brasileño (COB) se realizarán hasta el día 16 en Ribeirão Preto (SP), pero el torneo de atletismo continuará hasta este lunes 4. El récord sudamericano u18 era de John Edward Paredes, de Colombia, con 13.34 desde el 17/8/2019 y  el brasileño de Thiago Jacinto Carahyba Dias con 13.41 desde el 14/7/2001 . Thiago Bonfim, por el Distrito Federal, se quedó con la medalla de plata (13,55) y Lucas de Almeida Rosa, también de Santa Catarina, con el bronce (13,85).  Vinícius, quien integra la selección brasileña de atletismo convocada para la primera edición de los Juegos Iberoamericanos Sub-18 en Lima, Perú, del 15 al 17 de septiembre, ganó dos medallas de oro en el Campeonato Brasileño Sub-18 celebrado en agosto en Aracaju, en los 110 m vallas y 400 m vallas, prueba de Alison dos Santos, Piu, de quien es seguidor. "Siempre miro los vídeos de sus pruebas", comenta.  "En 2021 competí en los Juegos Estatales (SC), me clasifiqué para los Juegos de la Juventud y todo empezó a funcionar, con todos los objetivos cumplidos. Tengo confianza en los resultados", afirmó Vinícius, que entrena con Jeferson Bagatoli. Vinícius acudió al Estadio Municipal Alfredo João Krieck de Rio do Sul cuando tenía 12 o 13 años para jugar al fútbol. "Entré en la sala equivocada, en la sala de atletismo. Pedí entrenar y comencé a correr, pensé que era actividad física y recién me enteré casi un mes después, cuando le pregunté a Jefinho cuándo entrenaba con balón", dijo Vinícius. "Aquí no se trata de fútbol, ​​sino de atletismo", escuchó del entrenador. "Ya lo estaba, me gustó y decidí quedarme en el atletismo", añadió. Hakelly da Silva (AECD-Macaé-RJ), de apenas 14 años, que practica atletismo desde hace un año, ganó los 100 y 200 m en el Campeonato Brasileño Sub-18, ganó este sábado el oro en los 100 m  en Pirassununga, con 11,95 (1,9 m/s). Kellin Fischer (SC) la escoltó con 12.13 y María Fernanda Moreira Rosa (MA) fue tercera con 12.17. En los 100 m masculinos, la victoria fue para Paulo Henrique Batista (10,2 manual), para Santa Catarina, con Denio Alexandre en segundo lugar (10,6), para Ceará, y Matheus Gama en tercero (10,7), para Paraná. Amanda de Miranda (Generación Atlética Cianorte) ganó los 400 m llanos en los Juegos de la Juventud, además del Campeonato Brasileño Sub-18 en Aracaju, cuando también fue campeona de los 400 m vallas. Amanda terminó la carrera de Pirassununga con 55,11, seguida por Grazielly Sena, de São Paulo, con 55,70, y Letícia Evelyn Lopes, de Paraná, con 57,29. En los 400 m masculinos, el podio lo tuvieron Júlio Cesar Siqueira Filho, de Goiás (49,12), Lucas de Almeida Rosa, de Santa Catarina (49,13) y Tiago Melonio, de Maranhão (49,20).  En marcha atlética, prueba que cerró el programa del primer día de disputas, las medallas de oro fueron para Maria Luiza Rabelo Jaime, de Paraná, en los 3.000 m (16.15.04), y Davi Gabriel Bastos da Silva, de Espírito Santo , en los 5.000 m (25.28.33).  Darlan Romani, campeón mundial indoor de lanzamiento de bala, estuvo presente en la pista de la Academia da Força Aérea, en Pirassununga (SP), como Embajador de los Juegos de la Juventud 2023 e interactuó con los jóvenes aficionados tomándose fotografías y firmando autógrafos. “Es gratificante ver la alegría de los niños, vienen a tomarse una foto, dicen que me están apoyando. Es nuestro papel dentro del deporte, dar buen ejemplo y acercarlos, para que conozcan y disfruten de nuestro maravilloso deporte”, afirmó Darlan.   Read the full article

[thehorsedispatch]

New Post has been published on https://horsetoloan.com/horse-breeds/gypsy-horse-breed-gypsy-vanner/

Gypsy Horse Breed Gypsy Vanner

Gypsy Horse Breed – The Gypsy Vanner

The Gypsy horse, or the Gypsy Vanner, is a breed of horse that hails from Great Britain and Ireland. They are recognizable for their white splashes and were bred and used by the Irish Travelers as well as the English Romanichal Travelers.

This is what gave the breed their name! Gypsy Vanners were often— and still are— used to pull the traditional vardos, or wagons, of the Romani subgroup in the English Isles.

This is a fairly newer breed, especially when compared to some other breeds of horses that have been around for centuries. We will go over the Gypsy Vanner horse in more detail below, including its characteristics and history. 

Gypsy Vanner Characteristics

When it comes to the defining characteristics of a Gypsy Vanner horse, they are most often piebald or skewbald colored. In addition, they have the conformation of a cob. The Gypsy Vanner is also called the Irish Cob, and are classified as being small draught horses because of their strong hindquarters. Gypsy horses have a flowing mane and tail and feathered legs, as well as having a general appearance of a heavy, powerful horse. The head of a Gypsy Vanner is sweet, which means it is without coarseness in proportion and fits the overall balance of the horse. Their bite should also be even. 

Gypsy Vanner Size

The Gypsy Vanner breed stands at a height of between 13 and 15.2 hands high. However, these rules are not very strict, as the Gypsy Horse Association will accept heights outside of the aforementioned range, meaning that horses both smaller and larger may be accepted. When compared to other breeds of horse, the Gypsy Vanner height is considered to be average.

Among draft horses, this breed is considered to be small, especially when you take into account that the Shire horse can stand up to 18 hands in height! The Irish Cob, or Gypsy Vanner, is a horse characterized by a sturdy, broad, and compact body. They have dense bones and deep, powerful chests. The chest of the horse should show off ample muscles. 

Gypsy Vanner Weight

Weight is not restricted by the Gypsy Horse Association for registrations. However, the breed does have an average weight, of course, and that average is between 1100 and 1700 pounds.

There are many registries across the globe for the Gypsy Vanner breed, and all accept different heights— this means that there is also a big weight range for Gypsy Vanner horses, as height and weight are proportionately linked in horses.

This is a breed that has dense bones, too, which therefore makes them heavier than the average light horse breed. The strong muscles and conformation of the Gypsy Vanner makes the breed heavy cob-type horses.  

Gypsy Vanner Colors

Like with weight, the Gypsy Horse Association is not picky with colors, either. They accept all colors and markings of the Gypsy Vanner breed. There is even an old saying in the breed standard that is often mentioned by the registry.

It goes as follows: “A good horse never comes in a bad color”. Thus, the Gypsy Vanner is not a color breed, as some other breeds of horses are. They can be diverse in color, though there are some colorations or patterns that occur more often.

These most common colorations are piebald and skewbald. Both of these are characterized by white patches on dark coats, which is typical of Gypsy Vanners. Rarer colors that you may see the breed appear in are champagne, cremello, and palomino. They may be solid, tobiano, or splash-in patterns. 

Gypsy Vanner Temperament 

The Gypsy Vanner is a breed beloved for its temperament, too, and not just its many colors. They are well known for being kind and tolerant, as well as patient and intelligent. They have an agreeable nature which makes them a fantastic family horses. They can also be used as therapy horses due to their unflappable personality.

In addition to all of these characteristics, the breed is known for being tractable, sensible, and willing. A good Gypsy Vanner will have all of these important traits. These traits also make the Gypsy Vanner an adaptable breed that is able to participate in all of the equine disciplines. You could see a Gypsy Vanner in dressage, jumping, driving, and more!

Gypsy Vanner Care

If you give your horse the proper care and maintenance that it needs, it will be able to live a long and happy life. The Gypsy Vanner breed, for example, can live an average of 20 to 25 years if properly taken care of. It is also important to note that this is a breed that does have several care needs. The weight and the feathers of the horse are what needs the most care and attention, typically. That being said, the Gypsy Vanner is still considered to be an easy keeper among horses. We will go over the needs of the Gypsy Vanner in greater detail further in this article. 

Gypsy Vanner Diet and Nutrition

Some horses have very demanding diets, while the dietary needs of other breeds are less so. As each breed of horse has a different build, energy level, purpose, and more, not all breeds will benefit from the same diet. The Gypsy Vanner breed is one that is a less demanding eater, especially when it comes to things like supplements.

They do need a bit more forage than the average horse, which is because of their conformation and weight. Horses of this breed will also need a variety of fresh hay, pasture, some grains and vegetables, and some fruits, too.

Draft horses, such as the Gypsy Vanner, are known to have economical metabolisms. This means that they are able to digest nutrients slowly and more efficiently. Draft horses can also be prone to obesity, which means that their grazing should be monitored carefully to avoid this. 

Gypsy Vanner Health Issues

Like every breed of horse, there are some common health issues that can crop up with the Gypsy Vanner breed. That being said, this breed is overall a pretty healthy horse breed. The Gypsy Horse Association even notes that they are a sturdy and healthy breed. Hardy breeding has made Gypsy Vanners a breed that is good at jumping and swimming and is even able to carry heavy weights on its back.

They have strong conformations and can withstand many obstacles. However, one of the biggest health issues to be aware of is obesity. This is a health problem common with all draft breeds.

To avoid this, you should not overfeed your Gypsy Vanner and should also maintain a healthy diet. Gypsy Vanners can be prone to polysaccharide storage myopathy, or PSSM, and equine metabolic syndrome, or EMS, as well. 

Gypsy Vanner Grooming

While the Gypsy Vanner horse does not have a particularly demanding diet, as we went over above, the required grooming of this breed is certainly more involved. One factor is the feathers on the horse’s legs. They are striking, but they do require more upkeep to avoid issues such as skin irritation or diseases. Most, but not all, of the Gypsy Vanner horses will have feathers.

Their feathers must be washed and dried every 3 to 4 days. If you do not do so, your horse may end up dealing with skin irritation or skin infections. In addition to caring for your horse’s feathers, you will also want to brush its coat every day with a body brush in order to remove any small particles or debris. A curry comb should also be used to get rid of more serious grease and dirt as well as to stimulate your horse’s blood flow.

Gypsy Vanner History

The Gypsy Vanner breed has not been around for very long, especially when compared to other breeds. Because of this, they do not have as much of a lengthy history. These small draft horses were used and developed by the English Romanichal and Irish Travelers. Below, we will go over the history of the Gypsy Vanner horse as we know it today. 

Gypsy Vanner Origin

As we mentioned above, the Gypsy Vanner is a breed that originated in the British Isle and was used by the English Romanichal and Irish Travelers so that they could better travel through the Isles. However, the horses were not used by travelers until the later 19th century. Once they began to use the Gypsy Vanner horse, they used them to pull their vardos, or caravans, and then started to breed the horses to better fulfill this purpose. They bred the Gypsy Vanner horse to be the ideal caravan horse, using the Shire, Clydesdale, and British ponies such as the Dales to crossbreed for favorable traits. 

Gypsy Vanner Historic Development

After World War II, the English Romanichal had the ambition and vision to create what they pictured to be the perfect caravan horse. This horse would be “a small Shire, with more feather, more color, and a sweeter head”, and this is what the original breeding goal was. Most of the steps of the selective breeding process were not documented to the outside world. It was not until two Americans by the names of Dennis and Cindy Thompson were traveling through the English countryside and came upon a breed of horse that was not known to them, grazing in the fields. The Thompsons went on to assist in creating the breed now known as the Gypsy Vanner. They did this by connecting with the English Romanichal and being the first to take the first of horses across the pond to the United States. The breed is still more common in Europe where they originated than in North America. 

Notable Gypsy Vanner Horses

Gypsy Vanner horses were not known to the outside world for a long time, as we mentioned previously. This means that there was less time for horses of the breed to become notorious or famous. However, there are still some famous Gypsy Vanner horses that are worth mentioning! These horses have typically won competitions or hold records. Some Gypsy Vanner pedigrees are also notable as they have produced well-known horses. 

The Gypsy King

The Gypsy King is a famous Gypsy Vanner horse who is a black and white tobiano stallion. He was famous for being the sire of 84 foals. He was also the first of the Gypsy Vanner stallions that the Thompsons imported to the United States, back in 1998. The Gypsy King is widely considered to be the most famous and recognized of the Gypsy Vanner breed, all over the world. 

Birthday Boy King

Birthday Boy King was a Gypsy Vanner who was born on Cindy Thompson’s birthday. He is a striking black Blagdon stallion and lives at the Appleby equestrian center. He is also recognizable for the prominent blaze on his forehead, three stockings, and a sock. Birthday Boy King’s sire is The Gypsy King, another famous Gypsy Vanner horse. This means he is directly descended from the first Gypsy Vanner to step foot on US soil.

VV King William

VV William was a black and white tobiano stallion. He was born in 2007 and is 15 hands tall at his withers. He has sired approximately 35 foals, and his own sire was the legendary Gypsy Vanner stallion The Gypsy King! In addition, VV William has fathered many champion offspring. These champs include the likes of the Champion and Hall of Fame Stallion GG Lyuba’s King Zeus. 

Gypsy Vanner Myths and Legends

Like with the history of the Gypsy Vanner and the notable horses of the breed, we do not know as much about Gypsy Vanner myths and legends, because they are still a fairly new breed of horse.

They were unknown to the outside world for quite a while. The legends that surround the breed mainly originate from the English Romanichal community. We will go over some of the details of the stories and myths that we do know further in this article.

Verbal History

It was not until the late 19th century that the first studbook of the breed was introduced. Instead, the breeding goals and the history of the Gypsy Vanner was passed down verbally in the English Romanichal and Irish Traveler communities. This is one of the main reasons that we do not know about the older history of the breed. 

Ireland, not Great Britain

The Gypsy Vanner is a horse of many names, which can be confusing to some. For example, the breed is also known as the Irish Cob. There is a reason for this, though! The Gypsy Vanner originated from Ireland and not the UK, which is why the breed has these names. The Gypsy Vanner is the more commonly used name for the breed in the United States.

Fairytale Horse

The Gypsy Vanner, or Irish Cob, is a breed that looks particularly magical! On top of its magical appearance, there are also some beliefs that the breed is not just an ordinary horse. Locals in Ireland used to believe that these horses have a connection to fairies and leprechauns, and some do still believe this! The horses are also called Tinker Horses, and of course, we all know the fairy Tinkerbell of Peter Pan fame. Do you believe in magic, too?

Modern Gypsy Vanner Horses

The Gypsy Vanner was unknown for many years, and the outside world had no idea that they existed. These days, though, the breed has emerged to worldwide popularity. They are beloved for their temperament and unique appearance, too.

That being said, they are still a fairly rare breed. Gypsy Vanners can especially be found in the United Kingdom, Ireland, and the United States, often being used as family horses or pleasure horses. The kind temperament of the breed and solid conformation has made the Gypsy Vanner popular, and thus their breeding has increased in volume in past years. 

Gypsy Vanner Breeding

The Irish Cob, or Gypsy Vanner, breed of horse began to grow in popularity in the United States. This, of course, was due to the interest of the Thompsons in the breed. The Gypsy Vanner has also increased its popularity in the breed’s home countries of the United Kingdom and Ireland. They are more common than ever and can now be spotted all over the countryside!

Due to the sweet and kind nature of the Gypsy Vanner, many families have a gelding of the breed on their farm or keep them as family pets. Most of those that own Gypsy Vanners these days are not nomadic, as the travelers who originally bred them are. Th Gypsy Horse Association still remains the original breeding goal of the English Romanichal.

Gypsy Vanner Population

As we have mentioned earlier in this article, the Gypsy Vanner is a fairly rare breed of horse, though it has become more common in recent years. It is estimated that there are around 10,000 horses of the breed across the globe today.

Of these 10,000 horses, 20% of them are selectively bred so that they can maintain the Gypsy Vanner breed standards. While there are not definitive numbers about the Gypsy Vanner population, it is estimated that 20% of the horses reside in the United States. Of course, the number of Gypsy Vanners is low in comparison to the number of some more populous breeds like the American Quarter Horse. This low number can be attributed to the relative newness of the Gypsy Vanner breed. 

Gypsy Vanner Uses

The Gypsy Vanner is a particularly versatile breed, as according to the Gypsy Horse Association. In fact, they even say that the Gypsy Vanner or Irish Cob is “beyond doubt, the most versatile of animals in existence and long ago established a reputation as the best ride and drive animal in the world”. The gait of this breed is agile, powerful, and well-balanced.

All of this makes them successful dressage horses. Another trait of the breed is that they have a good depth of body and are suited for driving or riding. After all, the breed was used for pulling caravans, originally. Their kind temperament makes them good for any use. They are also naturally gifted jumpers and can even compete in jumping and dressage as a result.

Gypsy Vanner Prices

The price of a horse is commonly thought to be the purchase price, and while this is true, there are other costs associated with a horse as well. While there are different purchase prices for a horse depending upon certain characteristics, there are also additional costs that you will continue to pay for your horse’s lifetime. These include the cost of food and room and board, for example. Below, we will go over some of the numbers associated with owning a Gypsy Vanner horse. 

Gypsy Vanner Purchase Price

The Gypsy Vanner horse can be more expensive than more common and popular breeds like the Thoroughbred or American Quarter Horse. Part of the reason for this is because of the low number of Gypsy Vanner breeders in the United States.

It is a classic case of supply and demand driving the cost up! The breed was only imported into North America a couple of decades ago, so the number of available horses is limited, therefore increasing the purchase price. On average, a Gypsy Vanner stallion will cost between $1200 to $25,000. A Gypsy foal, on the other hand, can cost as low as $120 if you were to purchase it in Ireland, where the breed is more populous.

Then, you would have to factor in import costs with the purchase price. Import costs to the states, for example, can be up to $7,500. A good Gypsy Vanner horse can cost between $3400 to $5400 on average, while a very high-quality Gypsy Vanner can cost around $25,000.

Some of the things that come into play here are how old the horse is and how well it is trained. Bloodlines are also important and can drive up the purchase price of a horse. For example, if the horse comes from champions, it will cost much more than a horse from a lesser bloodline.

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Frequently Asked Questions

How much do Gypsy Vanner horses cost?

The Gypsy Vanner horse breed is one that can cost more than some other breeds of horse when you look at the average purchase price. However, it is also important to remember that the cost of a horse is not limited to their purchase price.

There are certain costs that you will be paying throughout the horse’s lifetime, like their food, shelter, and medical needs. There are also different factors that affect the purchase price of a horse, and these include their bloodline, age, and training level.

Since the Gypsy Vanner is a rarer breed in North America, they can cost between $10,000 and $40,000, easily. If you are purchasing a top breeding stallion, that price can skyrocket to between $45,000 and $60,000. 

Are Gypsy Vanners good horses to ride?

Plenty of breeds of horses are good for riding, but there are also some horses that cannot be ridden, or are more difficult to ride. The majority, though, are able to be ridden, because after all, the sport associated with horses is called horseback riding! Luckily, the Gypsy Vanner is a good breed of horse to ride.

They have a laid-back temperament, which makes them a good equine partner and a horse that will typically be easy to ride. This breed is ridden in both the English and Western riding disciplines. They are also suited for many events and disciplines, such as dressage and trail riding, among others.

Are Gypsy Vanners good for beginners?

It is important for beginner equestrians or those who lack a lot of confidence when riding to be paired with a horse suited to their skill level. Those who do not do so are more prone to accidents, which are unfortunately quite common in the horseback riding world.

Gypsy Vanners are one breed that are well suited to beginner-level riders. This is because they have a laid-back temperament and are not a temperamental breed that will be more sensitive or difficult to control. They are also known to be a docile breed that is easy to train, and are popular choices among riders, despite their rarity. 

Are Gypsy Vanner horses rare?

Gypsy Vanner horses are still a fairly rare breed of horse, and this makes them more expensive. Though they are considered to be rare, especially in North America, they have many favorable qualities that make them popular with equestrians and horse lovers.

The breed is a striking breed of horse that was bred and developed by European gypsies, so they are less rare in European countries. Gypsy Vanners are also a newer breed, as they have only been being developed for the past 50 years or so. The European gypsies bred these horses to make them better suited to pulling caravans.