#replacement goldfish trope

[there-are-many-ways-to-smile]

Time Cut is predictable and really Fucked up like emotionally

● Like what do you mean your first kid was murdered and your first thought was to have another as a replacement. They honestly might as well of just named the second child Summer as well. They named the second girl the first girls middle name.

[I don't think the sisters look alike, maybe skin tone wise but that's it]

● Product placement is everywhere and very obvious.

● While it's a slasher flim, they don't actually show you any of the deaths, like they cut away from the gory bits. [Which i find weird but whatever]

[Apparently the fashion in the 2003 year isn't right and I honestly can't agree or disagree cause I was a child at that time and didn't pay attention nor do I remember]

● I like how Lucy is, questioning if she should stop the killings. (Cause butterfly effect)

"Should I invest in BlackBerry?"

Madison Lily Bailey isn't the best actress, like she's good on OuterBanks but here, it's not very good unfortunately.

You know what actually no one probably expect for Antonia Gentry can act.

Maybe it's the script, cause everyone is off but her.

● Sad scenes are still hitting where it hurts though

● It would have been really sad but they honestly should have had Lucy cease to exist, cause I don't understand how she's supposed to support herself living in the past, she has no identity, she can't sleepover at Summers and Quinn houses forever.

Someone's gonna start asking questions, or you think time wouldn't allow someone to just stay in the past unchecked.

●I've said it before but Time Travel is a tricky bitch

Would the killer really look exactly the same 20 years later? I think not

That makeup looks horrid, they should have gotten an older looking actor.

This movie was clearly made on a budget, how much? Two dimes and a dream

● "Take advantage of the present" is a wild sentence for someone that stayed in the past. Lol

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Okay, so my final thoughts, um.. it's an Okay movie.

It just seemed like the main character just gave up, and I guess she couldn't really talk to her parents. But a blow up fight with them [like how she's her own person and not just their replacement for the daughter they lost] before the time travel back to 2003 would have been so good. Like they play a big part in Lucy life, her character and we don't see them much in the movie. I wish she would have gotten angry with them. Instead its just sadness.

So much more could have been done with the parents and I feel like we missed out.

Lucy a bit too comfortable for me, she's totally okay with her not existing and being a stranger to her parents.

While it's not an OG idea, and they have legit the same mask or something similar from Totally killer, I wouldn't compare the two.

Different Ball parks by far.

One I'd definitely buy the DVD and the other is a one and done

[chiibinomonodamon]

They should have been allowed to stay together, dammit

[createlink]

GOLDFISHTROPIC ⠀⠀⸻⠀⠀ A gender connected / related to the Replacement Goldfish trope.

⠀⠀⠀⠀Coined for a friend 🧡

[incorrectdaedra]

please give a synopsis of carnival goldfish that's such an intriguing name. how does this relate to our prince of wishes?

Okay so

so

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You're absolutely right, this is Vile. Vile the character AND vile the descriptor.

A common trope in family slice-of-life stories is for a small child to acquire, love, and accidentally kill a pet fish. The adults, not wanting to deal with the fallout, run frantically to the pet store to find a fish that vaguely resembles the one that passed before the kid even notices it's dead in a story that can only be funny because fish are considered too insignificant to mourn.

Carnival Goldfish is a disturbingly light-hearted story about what I think would happen if Clavicus Vile took a mortal lover. Vile gets overly excited and forgets that mortals are delicate creatures, he kills it, whines to Barbas that it's been sleeping for too long, and Barbas rushes to the mortal plane to find a replacement before Vile realizes what he's done. Mortals all kinda look the same anyways, it shouldn't be hard.

So, yeah! That's the basic gist. As fun as it is to read mortal x daedra romances, I don't think any daedric prince could really love a mortal as an equal (except maybe Sheogorath, since he's crazy). I do know plot point by plot point what happens in this story, but I haven't moved past the outline yet because I haven't come up with OCs to be the lover and the replacement yet. I don't experience romantic attraction and I don't write many OCs, so this is just generally pretty alien to me I guess? Anyways, I hope I can make this concept into a story that keeps people up at night. Thanks for the asks, guys :3 :3

@ego-osbourne @gergoats-gogurt

[yukirayu]

Anyone, whether they're familiar with the names of tropes or not, knows what a "replacement goldfish" means.

But when you actually quote that term verbatim in Taku's scenes? That, plus using the word "surrogate", really kills the impact of the lines' contexts.

Especially when there's the more succinct "replacement" or "substitute". Even "surrogate" alone sounds weird in the context of these scenes.

While the term is technically accurate, wording matters, and that also applies in a translation, for a very good reason.

After all, no one likes it when they find themselves raising a brow in confusion when they spot a word that is, for all intents and purposes, correct in meaning, but doesn't fit with the rest of the sentence and thus ends up making it sound really off-key.

[amatres]

TV Tropes : Layla

Hello everyone. Sometimes you have little hobbies that are silly and self indulgent but you don't care bc you think they're fun. That being said. Look at Layla's fake TV Trope page under read more for length.

Spoiler warning as well, as there is no actual censor bar to be had.

“A new day means a new chance for something interesting to happen!” Name: Layla Race: Dhampir (Moroi-Heritage) Class: Bard (Dirge Bard) Alignment: Chaotic Good (*could alignment shift to Chaotic Neutral in companion au*) Deity: Desna

Once a noblewoman of Brevoy, Layla is now a wandering bard. After five years of being on the run, she fled to the Worldwound in a desperate bid to deter the pursuit of her cousin and the mercenaries he’d send to capture or kill her, only to be drawn into the Fifth Crusade by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Tv Tropes:

 -All the Other Reindeer: Was ostracized for being a dhampir and then also for her uncertain noble lineage once her grandfather took her in.

 -Animal Motifs: Like any true azata mythic path knight commander and desnan, she is often associated with butterflies.

 -The Bard

 -Barefoot Poverty: She is often depicted as barefoot, and at the start of Wrath of the Righteous, she had them stolen by the person who was helping her get into the city, alongside her cloak and violin. (*Or that is what her mind makes her believe after being captured by Areelu*). While joked she just keeps losing them, the fact she can not easily replace them is still something to take note of.

 -Beware the Nice Ones/Beware the Silly Ones: While genuinely a rather kind and cheerful person who will help others simply because she can, she is not one to be pushed around. When she feels backed into a corner she can become venomous and destructive, as both her cousin Arthur and Queen Galfrey find out. 

 -Beautiful Singing Voice: While she primarily plays her violin, she is also trained in singing and is rather good at it, at least to the point she could still make money performing with singing and dancing alone.

 -Big Screwed-Up Family: It doesn’t get more dysfunctional than being the Replacement Goldfish for her grandfather and the Abel to her cousin’s Cain because said grandfather liked her more. Not to mention what started the problems to begin a generation earlier, with their parents' fight and their father’s reaction to it being the catalyst to everything.

 -Blue Blood: Apparently is the long lost grandchild to a brevic nobleman, though whether this is true or not was hotly debated the entire time she lived with the noble title.

 -Bookworm: With not much else to do as a noblewoman with no friends, Layla developed a strong love for books of all kinds. She bonds with others over it, and happily shares her love of it and what she’s read with others, such as Lann or Nenio.

 -Broken Bird: Subverted. The five years she spent on the run actually gave her the chance to refind herself after spending years under the stress of brevic court and her family drama, and she’s come out of it with a strong sense of self and love for life. (*however this can play out in earnest if the knight commander pushes her onto the chaotic route, causing her to have a breakdown and become self centered, self destructive, and callous*)

 -Burn Baby Burn: A go to tactic for her when she finally has had enough. Most famously, she set her own home of around twenty years aflame to spite her cousin. She will do the same in her chaotic endings in the companion au.

 -Cain and Abel: A less direct example, as he is her cousin not her brother, but Arthur continues to try to kill her to appease his own wounded ego and childhood trauma even after five years has passed. In her own world, he fails as he (*is killed by Areelu*) while he may actually succed in some companion au endings.

 -The Chains of Command: Being in charge of the fifth crusade is not good for her ultimately, and she never wanted to be in charge in the first place. Act three really puts it into light as she starts to act out of character and become more bitter as she’s forced to act against her nature.

 -Chaotic Good: Her In-Universe Alignment. She is a free spirited young woman, who values freedom of expression and anatomy above near all else, and is also rather kind and willing to lend an ear to those who need it, and will help people expecting nothing in return, even when it goes against what others tell her to do and potentially putting herself in trouble as a result.

 -Combat Pragmatic: Layla may not seek out fights on her own, but when she is in one, she will do whatever she deems necessary to get out of them alive. 

 -Cold Blooded Torture: Victim of this if captured by her cousin in act 3 as a companion. In one route, by the time she is rescued she has been rendered unable to walk and has to be helped by someone else to leave the prison. Even though she eventually is able to walk again some time after the fifth crusade ends, the experience understandably leaves scars no matter how she escapes the situation.

 -Corrupt the Cutie: Her chaotic route in her companion au is brought upon by encouraging her worst instincts and making her believe she only has herself to rely on. 

 -Dark and Troubled Past: While not as extreme as others, it’s not without its troubles. Coming into life with her mother dying in childbirth, being a social outcast at the orphanage that took her in solely out of fear of angering the vampire who possibly sired her, to thinking she finally got a chance at a better life only to become a social outcast in Brevic nobility due to her debated familial ties, then slowly backed into a corner by her own cousin as she was framed for slowly killing the only family member she had on her side, and having said family member in response to confine her to the manor in response out of fear for safety. This all leads to her saying enough is enough, and once her grandfather is dead, she destroys the very place she lived for over 20 years and leaves.

-Defiant Captive: If she is captured by her cousin, she spends months not breaking under torture, mocks her cousin all the while, and even attempted to run away once, though that was punished swiftly once she was recaptured. If the knight commander takes too long to rescue her after entering Act 5, it leads to…

 -Defiant to the End: She refuses to give up, even when things have become hopeless, such as when she first confronts Minagho at the Wardstone. Another example that does fulfill the death requirement is in one of her bad ends of her companion au where she never gives her cousin the satisfaction of seeing her break over the months he has her in captivity, eventually leading to him killing her.

 -Delicate and Sickly: Her albinism has not just left an obvious visual mark on her, but also affected her health, giving her life long health struggles and she has a very low constitution score fitting for what is expected of her heritage. (*This is possibly a side effect of Areelu’s experiments on her both when she was younger and later when she was captured near the Worldwound. While the foreign power in her body is making her stronger, it also eats away at her health*) Even as a companion, she mentions offhandedly about having been sick often as a kid, and other companions will remark on her poor health with varying levels of care on the matter. Layla is unbothered by her penchant for falling ill, and makes light of it due to how used to it she has become.

 -Destroy the Abusive Home/Let the Past Burn: While her grandfather himself wasn't horribly abusive, his manor ultimately was a place of strife for her. In a moment of not only grief, but anger, she set the manor ablaze so that her cousin couldn't have it even after she was gone. She also treated this partially as a way of saying goodbye to that part of her life, unfortunately that part of her life isn’t willing to let her leave that easily.

 -Dhampyr: Born as one, though no one knows who her vampiric sire is.

 -Die Laughing: In one of her bad ends, she laughs in her cousins face even after months of torture and he finally snaps, killing her.

 -Disappeared Dad: She has no idea who her father is, nor does anyone else. She is unbothered by this, saying he is either dead, or a deadbeat, and either way it’s of no concern to her in the end.

 -Elegant Classical Musician

 -Elemental Eye Color: Her eyes are a vibrant red, and she’s associated with fire due to her dramatic method of cutting ties.

 -Elopement: She marries Lann without any fanfare or warning to anyone else. Unlike most examples of this trope, it was simply because the two got carried away.

 -Ethical Slut: Has no problem with casual sex, and is open about it, while insisting that all parties involved are enthusiastic and that others don’t get hurt. If in a companion AU, she is happy to enter a casual sexual relationship with the Knight Commander but she will not accept being chosen over a different companion in the jealousy scene, and will leave saying she wasn’t aware of how serious things were and hadn’t meant to hurt anyone.

 -Friendless Background: Goes from an orphanage where everyone avoided her because of her unnatural heritage, to living in an estate where everyone avoided her because of the rumors surrounding her and out of fear of angering her very powerful guardian. She never had much chance to make friends until she was already an adult and living on the run.

 -Gentlewoman Snarker: While usually a Nice Girl, when she doesn’t like someone she is much more willing to mess with their heads and hurt their ego, and definitely has the wit to cut deep.

 -Good Bad Girl: A person who many find easy to like, and is also open and unashamed about her promiscuity.

 -Guile Hero: As someone who is not very physically strong, she relies on her wits and charm to get out of most of her troubles. For example, she has a habit of turning her enemies against each other so she can escape when they aren’t looking.

 -Half Human Hybrid: Her mother was unquestionably human, whoever she truly was, but her father is unknown and speculated to have been a vampire. 

 -The Hyena: She is often laughing, and can find reason to laugh at almost anything.

 -Impossibly-Low Neckline: Her dress perhaps is on the more unrealistic side and it's a wonder it stays on like it does.

 -Just Friends: With Daeran, both as the knight commander and as a companion. In her own universe, she is oblivious to his developing feelings and turns him down when he attempts to turn things serious, while in a companion au the two start a Friends With Benefits arrangement but eventually end it, deciding to consider each other simply friends.

 -Lonely Rich Kid: Her childhood in her grandfather's estate, as no one was willing to brave befriending her due to her grandfather's protective attitude and the rumors surrounding her.

 -Magic Music: Comes with being a bard.

 -Meaningful Name: Her name means ‘night’, a rather on the nose name for a dhampir. 

 -Mood-Swinger: While often cheerful, it catches many off guard when her mood changes at the drop of a hat. Any emotion she has will often be immediately obvious, and sudden, there and then gone with the change of the wind.

 -Mystical White Hair: Not caused by magic itself, instead coming from the much more mundane reason of albinism.

 -Never Found the Body: Some of her chaotic alignment endings invoke this, even inspiring in universe speculative literature and art on what became of her.

 -Nice Girl: A kind person who many find easy to get along with and find something about her to like. She approaches most people with a friendly demeanor and open mind, and is willing to accept most people despite how different they are from her, though not to the point of letting people take advantage of her.

 -Noble Fugitive: Was once a noblewoman of a decently respected noble house of Brevoy, but has had to live on the run for the past five years after her cousin framed her for murdering her grandfather and she set the manor he wanted so badly on fire in retaliation.

 -Parental Abandonment: Her mother couldn't really help dying in childbirth, but her father is out there and no one knows who he is, let alone if he is alive or not.

 -Plucky Girl: Both stubborn and optimistic in equal measure.

 -The Pollyanna: Despite all the hardships life has dealt her, she holds onto her optimism and does her best to see the best of life, as well as to share that with others. (*unless the Knight Commander pushes her to her breaking point*)

 -Polyamory: Is open to this if her partner wishes to, and as a companion she offers it as a solution to the jealousy scene, though none of them really go through with it.

 -Pretty Butterflies: When she starts to show signs of her azata mythic path, she is surrounded by butterflies that follow her wherever she goes.

 -Prone to Sunburn: Unfortunate result of albinism.

 -Put the “Laughter” in “Slaughter”: In the companion au, if the knight commander pushes her into her chaotic path she laughs all while killing her cousin and all his men, with or without the knight commander’s help.

 -Raised by Grandparents: Raised by her grandfather after she spent her first few years in a Taldan orphanage.

 -Rags to Riches: Went from being an isolated child in an orphanage to a rich noblewoman loved by her grandfather. It wasn’t to last.

 -Red Eyes, Take Warning: Unlike the rest of her outward appearance, Layla’s eyes are something that does mark her as more dangerous than simply a human woman with albinism, giving her away as a dhampir. While she doesn’t mean most people harm, it’s not uncommon for others to get unnerved when they notice her eyes and realize what they mean.

 -The Redeemer: Has a habit of getting into evil characters’ heads enough to make them begin to question themselves and ultimately change. Makes her act 3 near breakdown under the weight of power all the more noticeable when she does the opposite for her companion for months Camellia, and the obviously deeply mentally ill, survival focused Wenduag. Despite this habit of hers, she won’t refuse to fight someone who tries to manipulate her to get away with their evil deeds.

 -Replacement Goldfish: Was this to her grandfather, who used her as a second chance at raising his daughter. In his final months, he would call Layla by her name instead and would talk to her as if she was his long lost daughter. (*Areelu attempted to do a more twisted version of this to her as well*)

 -Riches to Rags: Goes from being a well off Brevoy noblewoman to a shoeless traveling bard, not that she seems to mind.

 -The Runaway/Forced From Their Home: While she ultimately falls into the former, she only started her life on the run due to her cousin trying to impose the latter, if not fully intending to have her killed instead.

 -Quirky Curls: Is a cheerful girl, and has long, curly hair that she often lets flow free.

 -Oblivious to Love: Unfortunately it takes a bit for her to realize someone has feelings for her and not simply flirting with her for fun. Those who try the hardest, with more elaborate and showy displays of affection, are only making it less likely she’ll catch on until it’s too late and someone gets hurt.

 -Odd Friendship: Friendship is stretching it very far, but Layla holds a rather decent amount of respect for Regill despite how different their world views are, due to how true he is to his convictions. That won’t stop her from jokingly flirting with him because she thinks it’s amusing or stating her own views however.

 -Of Corsets Sexy: One of the few articles of clothing she wears is a corset.

 -Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right: She will often go off on her own to do what she feels is right, not caring who it upsets.

 -Sex for Services: Admits to having done this once or twice as a way to get into a city, or have someone help her out. She claims she isn't bothered by this, and says if she had ever felt she was in danger she could have easily torn out the person's throat with her teeth.

 -Single Woman Seeks Good Man: The gender doesn’t matter to her, but it’s not the obvious flirtations or showings of power that catch her attention, but earnesty. She simply wants someone who accepts her as she is.

 -Smarter Than You Look: Is a lot more well read, a better judge of character, and much more introspective than most people would probably give her credit for right off the bat.

 -Street Musician: How she makes a living.

 -Success as Revenge: Well more simply moving on with her life as revenge. She has no interest in getting any revenge against her cousin after burning down the family manor, and even tells him to his face he is wasting his life by pursuing her when he could instead be making a respectful name for himself back in Brevoy if he just did the same.

 -The Tease: She finds it fun to flirt with people, and will do it with or without romantic or sexual intention. Some she even flirts with because she thinks their rejection of it is funny, though she tries to remain mindful of people’s boundaries and won’t flirt with certain characters like Sosiel or Arueshalae out of respect. 

 -Tragic Keepsake: Her violin, as it was the only gift her grandfather gave her that she has left now that the rest of them are reduced to ashes.

 -True Blue Femininity: Very feminine and is often dressed in a light blue dress.

 -Turn to Religion: She became a worshiper of Desna only after she left her old life behind.

 -Unkempt Beauty: She doesn’t put in much effort into her appearance, mostly because she can’t, but is still rather pretty.

 -Walking the Earth: While she might not have chosen to leave when she did, Layla is happy to live on the road, and returns to it once the 5th crusade comes to an end.

 -Wandering Minstrel

 -What the Hell Hero: In the companion au, Layla will leave the party for a handful of actions, one being causing Arueshalae to fall. (*at least as long as the commander hasn’t also triggered her own chaotic path*)

[cowboysanddragons23]

While the Sam/Amelia plot in Season 8 has gotten a lot of complaints about them lacking chemistry and not being a good couple and being a shit plot, sure, except that's the whole point, they are not supposed to be a good couple:

-They are not genuinely in love with each other, but in what each other represents: Amelia represents to Sam the possibility of a normal life, which he always wanted ever since childhood (in fact, during Dark Side of the Moon, Sam's happiest memories were when he was away from his family. Or during After School Special flashbacks, where Sam mentions to Dean that he wants to be normal.) and to Amelia, Sam represents the possibility of not feeling lost anymore (granted, her husband Don turned out to be alive), but at the time, she thought he was dead, so she attempted to move on with her life (take for example Danny and Evelyn in the movie Pearl Harbor, where Danny and Evelyn had sex with each other months after Rafe was MIA and they both thought Rafe was dead and they attempted to move on with their lives. Granted, Sam and Don didn't knew each other very well, but a parallel can be drawn regardless).

-It's not a love story because it was never supposed to be. They were more into the idea of each other, an attempt to fulfill the emptiness and loss they had in their lives, but we can't talk about emotional connection because it was never there. Their relationship was always meant to be unhealthy and it shows. It's not inaccurate to say that Sam/Amelia is a deconstruction of the "Replacement Goldfish" and "Sex for Solace" tropes.

[augerer]

i truly love desire displacement, beautiful fun sexy trope of all time <3.... when a girl is in love with another girl and therefore seduces that girl.....'s boyfriend ヾ(≧▽≦*)o .... when two people get together (for whatever definition of "get together") but its actually about their friend's ghost who is haunting the narrative.... \^o^/ ... when two people get together but its actually about their friend they're mutually obsessed with (/≧▽≦)/ .... when two people get together and its a replacement goldfish situation where one of them is like a standin for a different person they have similarities to ↖（￣︶￣）.... when a character pursues someone but its actually about their psychosexual game with someone else!!! (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o))) .... and many more versions.... many engines for happiness

[cherchersketch]

I’m all out of Health / I Have no Health

Of course she does gain a bit of health back (temporarily) but I’m not sure how long it’ll last because ML and Daddy will go absolutely insane if she actually dies.

Summary Our girl isekais into a novel where she’s the sickly daughter in the Daddy supporting character’s backstory. The OG!FL was basically a replacement goldfish for her. Now that our FL’s the one in control, she’s gonna do her best to GAIN MORE HEALTH and solve the whole conspiracy behind how her mother’s family (and several others) were accused of treason.

Tropes   - isekai-ed into a nearly-dead character   - OG!FL is somewhere there in the background   - child returns to be superior to their trash family WE LOVE TO SEE IT (except it’s not the FL but Daddy instead)   - what do you mean I’ve drastically changed the past the future FL and ML definitely still belong together (but not in the way you think) 

FL - Ninenya Seiah

 - protecc the cinnamon roll  - BFFs with the original FL, you love to see it  - i really hope baby girl gets healthy more permanently and gets a happy ending ;w;

ML - Count Kaiser Adelman

 - has a problem with ~touching people~ because of backstory reasons  - of course he had a ~traumatic childhood~  - super special awesome ~*magic*~ user  - dandere  - his love language is feeding her horrible herbal concoctions made from monstrous animal parts (for health)  - I’ve only had Ninenya for a few months but if anything happened to her I would kill everyone in this room and then myself

Daddy - Lord Rubenio Seiah

 - richer than you’ll ever be  - he loves his daughter SO MUCH ;w;  - smarter (and more devious) than he looks   - I just really love a hot overprotective dad

Rating: Yes PLEASE READ THIS Despite the premise, it’s actually a pretty cute and fluffy story Status (as of 3 Nov 2023) Main story completed. (It was ongoing when I first wrote this post) The ending was... kind of deus ex machina-y but hey, another dying MC series with a happy ending ;w; I’ll take it. Side stories soon.

Same Same but Different  -  The Villainess’s Days are Numbered    -  Karina’s Last Days

full rec list

[the-robot-bracket]

Resubmitting Astro Boy character propaganda because my boy Atom keeps losing polls:

Please vote for Atom! He has existed since 1951, got his own manga in 1952, has had several manga and anime adaptations (including PLUTO, which is coming to Netflix this year) and his own movie!

Tobio died causing Tenma to go insane and make a borderline indestructible dead ringer android robot of his son! Atom lived as Tobio only for Tenma to sell/lose/deactivate/disown him when he ultimately couldn’t be Tobio! Atom was forced to fight other robots to the death to entertain the morbid fascination of humans! Once he was rescued, he chose to use his powers to help others and do good — he aids in environmental issues, goes on underwater and underground explorations, space, and diplomatic missions for humans and robots whether it be between parties or countries or on the behalf of humanity and robots as a whole. 

All the tropes you love about robots were explored and even started with Astro Boy! Astro Boy is literally the example for Replacement Goldfish and the Unbuilt Trope on TV Tropes!

Astro Boy is not only so incredibly influential to manga and anime, but also to Japan and many generations in countries around the world. Trust me, you’ll be surprised how far the rabbit hole goes once you look into it. 

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Please do my boy Atom justice and vote for Astro Boy. 

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[soleminisanction]

Like, I get where people who fall on the clone side of the clone vs. robot debate are coming from, but I also think that's a fear based on a) a fundamental misunderstanding of the science behind cloning and b) a lot of assumptions being made about the intentions behind said clone's existence, based on sci-fi tropes that largely perpetuate the misunderstandings in point a.

A clone is not a "replacement goldfish" by default, you have literally no reason to assume that except for jumping straight to the island of conclusions. You wouldn't somehow become a fake person or automatically unwanted or be 'obviously' a failed experiment or intended to be kept for parts or anything.

You'd just be... a person, a human being, who happens to be an exact genetic copy of another person, grown in a lab. You're still human. You're still your own person. The entire point of those failing-to-make-a-replacement stories is that clones don't work that way, so there's no point being existentially angsty about it. You're still a human, you're just made different, born different. It's not all that different from IVF when you think about it.

But find out you're a robot? Suddenly, by definition, you're not human, you're a machine, an item, someone can legally own you. Someone could claim that you're just pretending to be conscious, that you're no different from an MLM, that your intelligence, your consciousness, is by definition artificial, and you'd have no way to prove them wrong.

And you know what you can't do to a human body, clone or otherwise? You can't wipe their memories. You can't reformat their hard-drives or adjust their personalities on a whim. You can't program them.

Even a clone can always be certain that their memories are on some level real, even if they turn out to be staged or manipulated. With a robot? You'd never be able to know for sure.

Clones are human, and all humans are individuals; science hasn't managed to eliminate that. Robots are objects, and we build objects to be replaceable.

[courtneysmovieblog]

Boy, the Russos really screwed the pooch where Peter and Gamora were concerned.

It’s bad enough they fridged Gamora in that abominable way. But even worse is was how they completely threw all the work James Gunn put into their slow-burn romance.

Guardians Vol 2 left it with Gamora tentatively acknowledging that there might be something between her and Peter, but they just weren’t there yet. And that was on purpose. They both hadn’t quite reached the maturity for romance. Lindsay Ellis explained it better in her video, but the bottom line was, they hadn’t quite gone past their whole Sam-and-Diane dynamic yet.

Yet with Infinity War, all that development is just skipped over. Gamora is suddenly declaring her undying love for Peter while Thanos has a gun to her head. I can’t be the only one that thought her “I love you more than anything” came off as OOC. Even for the “I’m about to die” love declaration trope, it felt forced. Especially because we never really got a moment where they genuinely came together. No, her kissing Peter after he promised to kill her before Thanos took her doesn’t count.

Had the Russos written Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3, there’s no doubt they would have turned Variant Gamora into a Replacement Goldfish/Trophy just like they did with Peggy Carter. But Gunn didn’t. Even if he did intend to kill off Gamora, he would have at least put more thought into it. He would have given us the Peter/Gamora moment we deserved.

[genesiswrld]

It's cute but it feels a bit too much of a replacement goldfish trope for me, and im more of a jadetana shipper 😭🤚

Understandable we all like what we like😁🤷🏽‍♀️

[likha-ni-dia]

Some AkiHam songs I have in mind:

All I've Ever Known from Hadestown. But imagine Minako as Eurydice and Akihiko as Orpheus. It also encompasses their relationship after the Promised Day.

Sun and Moon from Miss Saigon. These two parallel Kim and the GI so well I'm in shock. They are pretty much the model for the star-crossed lovers trope.

Never Look Away by Vienna Teng. It's just Akihiko and Kotone's relationship in a nutshell.

Perfect by Ed Sheeran. I'd like to think they dance to this on one of their anniversaries.

Hero by Faouzia. These two pretty much save each other throughout the course of the story of P3.

Wait For Me (both versions). Hadestown AU. That's all.

You Are In Love by Taylor Swift. It summarizes Akihiko’s growing feelings for Kotone as he continues to hang out with her. 

This Love by Taylor Swift. AkiHam about their future together. 

Everything Has Changed by Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran. When Akihiko realizes his feelings for Kotone aren’t just about him seeing his little sister in her, but coming to love her as she is. He knows deep down that Kotone isn’t Miki and she is by no means a replacement goldfish for her. 

Kiss Me Slowly by Parachute. Need I say more?

Good To You by Marianas Trench. A friend recommended this song to me and good lord do I love how it encompasses Akihiko and Kotone’s relationship all the way to the end. 

[onewomancitadel]

I don't think it would be possible to write a developed Jaune/Weiss romance in any way (that's not a red herring as anon was putting forward, that's straight up developed non-endgame romance) which precipitates Jaune/Cinder. That is absurd. That would not happen. It's going to be one or the other, but as it is, even if you make the case for Weiss' feelings (he's cute? But he's not 'mature' anymore) this past volume you caaaaaaaaan't for Jaune which is what augments the Blake/Sun reading.

I think they would be mad if they canonised the Blake/Sun equivalent in this scenario and then pulled a Blake/Yang after definably, one hundred percent reciprocated feelings/romantic development. That's just not possible. They shipbaited Blake/Sun, but they never outright confirmed it (even with 'meeting the family' trope and everything).

Really I think what's telling is that most people already think Jaune/Weiss is the foregone conclusion when it's the most tonally ugly thing ever lolll replacement goldfish romance, thanks Pyrrha for warming her spot now she's finally noticed Jaune isn't an idiot. So the question is whether they develop that in a real way (with Jaune over the next volume in particular) or not.

Of course if you ask me - if Knightfall is meant to be a narrative twist - they're not counting on people expecting that.

[beevean]

I think that the reason they even made Julia in the first place was to give Hector a sort of fairy tale ending of him essentially getting back together with his dead wife in a way....too bad they also kinda forgot to give botg women a personality

I suspect there is some serious Values Dissonance at work

I think the reason behind the "similar wives" trope (including also Lisa and Elizabetha, since there's the implication that Lisa is a reincarnated Elizabetha and perhaps Mina is a reincarnated Lisa) is to say that love lives on, a part of your departed beloved will always be with you, or something similar.

But. Uh. I, and I guess other Western players, can only see replacement goldfish and something that cheapens the unique identity of these poor women XD

I can believe that Dracula would be so selfish to fall in love with a woman simply because she reminded him of his first wife. He's Dracula, he's not exactly the best guy around. But Hector very much looks like an insensitive asshole if he gets with Julia, both because he replaced the wife he went on a revenge quest for very easily and because of the whole "hey I just killed your bro you cool with that?" thing dfhsjfhksd

(also yes in Julia's case I hate that she doesn't resemble Isaac not even a tiny bit because she has to look identical to a stranger. The Ace Attorney fan in me cries, because that series is so good as showing you how two related characters resemble each other in appearance and mannerism 😭)

Anyway. I get the intention, I really do. I can see how it was meant to be heartwarming in concept. But it doesn't work. If I could remake CoD, among other things I'd add a feature where every time you progress in the game, you have small conversations with Julia in the shop, to emphasize that she's not the same person as Rosaly, she has a different personality and experiences and Hector might come to like her for who she is and not because of a fucked up grief bonding lmao.

I don't think CoD is terribly written, it's a fun experience and the concepts are very solid IMO. But there are absolutely many things that could be improved, and poor Rosaly and Julia are the priority :(