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mythologyfolklore · 1 year ago
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The 4 Monkeys of Havoc
(A/N: This is mostly for me, because I can never remember the right diacritics or special symbols.)
Língmíng Shíhóu (靈明石猴): “Stone Monkey of Numinous Wisdom” (=Sūn Wùkōng)
Chìkāo Mǎhóu (赤尻馬猴): “Red Bottom Horse Monkey”
Tōngbèi Yuánhóu (通背猿猴) / Tōngbì Yuánhóu (通臂猿猴): “(Arms) Through the Back Gibbon” / “Through the Arms Gibbon”
Liù’ěr Míhóu (六耳獼猴): “Six-Eared Macaque”
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noodlecatt467 · 1 year ago
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I could not get this interaction out of my head where the baboon would immediately assume Wukong and Macaque are a couple and them just being very confused when Wukong says that’s not the case
You know those two people that obviously love each other and everyone knows it but them,yeah that’s FFM with these guys, and they are over it
This scene is hypothetical and I have yet to decide whether it’s canon to the CelestialPrimatesAU comic
Also the grey monkey is the solder that rides with wukong on the cloud in the AU comic, I named him Wei,he has anxiety and I love him
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violetjedisylveon · 10 days ago
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Older gay monkeys*
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*i know one of them is an ape
Tongbei Yuanhou(left) and Chikao Mahou(right) are the first celestial primates.
They are much older than Wukong and Macaque. And they're just a gay but much healthier about it.
When the pillar of creation first broke, all the chaos that flooded into the realm needed to go somewhere so boom, you got a gibbon made from the waters flooding the realm and a mandrill made from fires. They literally popped into the end of the world and had to deal with that on their first day of existing.
They are much less problematic than their youngers, they're still nuisances, but they aren't nearly as destructive about it. And they have more useful powers.
Mahou did a lot of work in the underworld cause they're powers are basically being socially aware and a good judge of people. And not dying.
Has knowledge of yin and yang, Understands human affairs, Is adept in its daily life And able to avoid death and lengthen its life.
Yuanhou did work in the celestial realm as basically a glorified moving man, he just moved shit around.
Seize the sun and the moon, Shorten a thousand mountains, Distinguish the auspicious from the inauspicious, And manipulate planets and stars
They knew each other before they started their respective jobs because they came into existence the same day and immediately clocked that they're a pair. Somewhere along the line they found themselves in a romantic relationship don't ask them how, neither of them know.
They are on good terms with most people, mostly because they aren't nearly as annoying as their disaster gay youngers, and they like to hang with Buddha cause they don't got much to do that often, their nominal bosses would like to have a word about that but never get their attention long enough.
Buddha sent them to oversee Macaque after his fight with Wukong during the journey, they were basically his parole officers guiding him away from revenge and towards self improvement. Cause they ship the disaster monkeys and need them to talk shit out. It worked and they get a niece out it.
They've been chilling since they let their kids take over their duties, their kids are better at it than they are anyway(cause they actually do it). And now they spend their time hanging with their buds, making Mount Everest taller, and watching their favorite gay monkeys be not disasters and functional for once. (they'll be back to disaster gay status soon enough)
They show up in chapter 13 of Little Star, and I finally got character art done before the chapter they first appear in.
I based Mahou's design on a mandrill even though most of what I've seen is him as a baboon, because mandrills have brighter colored face masks in the references I was looking through. Yuanhou's mask is an upside down five points star because of his whole moving celestial bodies thing.
Yuanhou is also the only one who is not a monkey, he's an ape and therefore the reason why they are celestial primates and not just celestial monkeys.
Cracked Family AU Masterpost
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quitealotofsodapop · 5 months ago
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Hi! I wanted to ask something.
Like, most of us knows there are 4 Spiritual Monkeys in the legend(book)... Do the Wukongs and theyr LEM's ever tought about looking for them? Cause mines did and It was chaos
Tongbi: Wait... why there are not other us, Chikao? *Sad precious sunshine noises*
Chikao: We are probably lucky in theyr universes to not having to ature theyr "bullduey"
*Wukong and Liu'er fighting in the most platonic way possible*
(If you are wandering who Tongbi and Chikao are, Chikao = Baboon and Tongi = Gibbon. And both are girls)
Love them and all the different versions people are coming up with! Bonus: the @journeytothewestresearch post about them!
I've been personally calling them "Babs" = Baboon (Chikao mahou, 赤尻馬猴) and "Gibs" = Gibbon (Tongbi yuanhou, 通臂猿猴) as a nickname! XD
My idea is that they are the older of the four *known* celestial primates, with the oldest celestial primate being the since-ascended Shen Monkey who raced for the Jade Emperor.
Tongbi/Gibs has a naturally stretchy body (think like Monkey D Luffy) and is very optimistic. Whilst, Chikao/Babs is more of a realist with the power of reading a person's thoughts/intentions (an interpretation I have for "Understands human affairs,").
My personal hc backstory for them is that;
Tongbi/Gibs was born/hatched along the Heavenly River, her species limbs stretching to allow them to climb, swim and dance between the clouds and astral waterways. She could be considered the "Fresh-Water Monkey" for this reason. Her egg had actually fallen to earth during the Great Flood when the fifth Heavenly Pillar broke, and was found by a tribe of proto-humans (of which Fuxi originated) that raised her as their own. She lived with them for many years before deciding to seek out others of her kind - where upon she met Chikao/Babs
Menawhile, Chikao/Babs was actually born into the Underworld amongst demonkind. Her fellow demons did not understand why she had hatched from a egg-shaped stone that sat undisturbed in the demon-capital city of Youdu for many millennia, but they accepted her as their colleague nonetheless. When Chikao/Babs came of age, she was trained to carry out the duties of a Psychopomp; to gather and bring deceased soul before Yama and the Ten Kings, the same duties as Ox-Head and Horse-Face. She could be considered the "Abyss Monkey" for her gloomy origin.
The two celestial monkeys meet by pure chance when Chikao/Babs herself nearly dies trying to collect the soul of a reluctant water demon. Tongbi/Gibs saved her, and it was love/fascination at first sight like Little Mermaid.
The two female monkeys are soulmates in a yin-yang like dynamic. One stern and aloof, the other silly and expressive. They began seeking out others of their kind almost immediately after meeting - failing until they found a certain little stone monkey being cared for by an old mentor.
I made a joke post a while back about these two finding little Sun Wukong early and raising him as their own, and now I can't stop thinking of it! The Netflix and Smash Legends SWKs are who I most imagine as having the two super-powered moms, but I could def see an AU of Lego SWK having moms. X3
Chikao and Tongbi def be cringing hard at how bad their son is fumbling expressing his feelings for Macaque, and for how bad Macaque is at confronting *his* feelings!
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the-monkey-ruler · 2 years ago
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so i did a deep dive today for this thank you for the new headcanon
i’m thinking yuán as in 猿 - 犭 = 袁
ape - animal radical = long cloth
like how 猻 - 犭 = 孫 = 孙 (simplified)
猻 is from 猴猻 hóusūn which means monkey
monkey - animal radical = grandson
孙悟空 • sūn wùkōng • grandson awakened to nothingness
袁巫支祁 • yuán wūzhīqí • long cloth great shaman/witch/sorcerer/wizard to support/bear/sustain
if you look at old chinese paintings of gibbons, they look like they have black bodies and white heads
btw i high recommend an evaluation of robert van gulik’s the gibbon in china and its place in modern sinological discourse on the academia app. it’s free and ripe with information about how gibbons were viewed and depicted in ancient china. robert’s book is damn expensive tho. i envy anyone who has their hands on it.
here’s an excerpt that surprised me:
The third theme is suggested in the following: “The gibbon is better than the monkey , the former is clean, gentle and recluse, the latter is dirty, noisy, greedy and vulgar” (“Mei yuan su hou”美猿���猴) (TGIC 58). RvG thought this idea was pragmatic. Ancient Chinese literati like Wu Yun (“Poem of the Black Gibbon”) (TGIC 54-56), Li Deyu (“Poem of the White Gibbon) (TGIC 56-57), and Liu Zongyuan 柳完元 (773–819)21 (“Essay on the Hateful Monkey-breed” or “Zeng wangsun wen” 憎王孙文) (TGIC 54-56). Each compared the quarrelsome and volatile monkey with the aloof gibbon (TGIC 56). The lament is evidently directed against the people at court who caused their patron’s downfall (TGIC 57). Wu Yün, Li Deyu and Liu Zongyuan contrasted the violent and vulgar monkey with the high-minded and well-behaved gibbon. So the monkey is described as greedy, cruel and undependable, and ugly in appearance” (TGIC 57).
oh and the novel calls wūzhīqí great sage water ape… they were totally born from water. water egg? water womb?
and since it’s semi-popular in lmk fandom to make six-eared macaque a wind monkey due to the macaque king, that would leave red-buttocked horse monkey a fire monkey. red is the color of fire and the horse’s element is fire. in buddhism there are 4 great elements: earth, water, fire, and air so it all weirdly fits.
Oh damn you did such an AMAZING deep dive in both the language and history!! I adore it!!
I am aware the theory that Macaque King is the Six Ears is a common theory and with that the tie in with being the Great Sage of Ventilation, not just in LMK.
It would be cool if the Spiritual Primates had a connection to the elements, even if it is not the five. I actually forget that Buddism had its own elements that are technical since I always counted akasa/space.
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But perhaps if the idea that each primate is also birthed from inanimate objects perhaps something like
Stone - Wukong
Pearl - Wuzhiqi / Gibbon
Magma - Baboon
Tree Root - Macaque (since air is also connected to wood in Chinese lore)
If they were ever to use the Gibbon as either the same Wuzhiqi from the Yuan Xiyouji she would be an amazing addition, or perhaps they could have used the Sage leaning background as well. In either case, there's so much history when it comes to both primate lore that I really think there can be a lot done with these findings
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mentality-of-wukong-au · 1 year ago
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I forgot I had this pic of Chikao lying around
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So I decided to turn it into a meme
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button-au · 11 months ago
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Zhong Wujing…
Mathias:heheheh
Wukong:…
Chikao: *Googly eyes*
Macaque:…
Macaque: What’s with Sandy’s family that this family likes so much-?
Wukong: MACAQUE, JUST BECAUSE WE USED TO DATE, DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN JUST JOKE ABOUT IT-
Chikao: But it’s so sweet! ^^ Is Zhong nice?
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amnesia-wukong-au · 7 months ago
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Xing:… it’s Xing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chikao:…Xing…I just think you need a backup- *Starts glitching*
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broken-vow-au · 7 months ago
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….
Nezha:…
Nezha: Those rings were supposed to hold me back, but…what if…?
Chikao: You were a child back then…you didn’t know how to control it…
Nezha: But what if I still don’t?
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ghost-tripitaka-au · 7 months ago
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Mathias:*falls to the ground.*
Wukong: *Holds him* Mathias- Why- oh gods- *Tries to stop the bleeding*
Bo/Azure; *Holding Chikao back*
Chikao: RGHH!
Tongbei: Ngh…
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children-of-the-sun-au · 8 months ago
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Mathias:*calls a number* got him by a thread… he’s coming…
???: Good. You did good Mathias.
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noodlecatt467 · 2 years ago
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Part2 of Chapter2
Whatcha you heard there Macaque?👀
Pt1
Pt3
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violetjedisylveon · 1 year ago
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Shadowpeach Family AU Meme 5
writing gives me meme ideas
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*Yuanhou is the Long Armed Gibbon and Mahou is the Red Bottomed Horse Monkey, Macaque is okay with Yellow Tusk, it's not great, but not terrible.*
I thought it would be funny to have Macaque know the other celestial primates and Wukong be confused af when these two show up at his house.
So they are besties and currently placing bets on how long it takes Wukong to realize that they are besties. Once he does they plan to go on double dates and trade stories of all the shit they've been up to.
Yuanhou and Mahou have been watching the development of Shadowpeach for the longest time. They have seen so much of it.
I hc that Yuanhou uses his arms the same way Plastic Man does cause, it's funny. I don't have a better reason, I just think it'd be funny. He will just drop stuff off on FFM from his home by just stretching his arm all the way over there.
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noodlecatt467 · 1 year ago
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Part 3 of chapter 2
Pt1 Pt2 here
part 4
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violetjedisylveon · 10 days ago
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Chapters: 13/40 Fandom: LEGO Monkie Kid Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Major Character Death Relationships: Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque/Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Sun Wukong | Monkey King & Original Character(s), Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque & Original Character(s), Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque & Sun Wukong | Monkey King & Original Character(s), Marshal Ma & Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque & Marshal Ma (Journey to the West), Nezha | Third Lotus Prince & Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Nezha (Monkie Kid) & Original Character(s), Chang'e (Monkie Kid) & Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque, Chang'e (Monkie Kid) & Original Character(s), Nüwa (Chinese Mythology) & Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Guanyin | Goddess of Mercy & Sun Wukong | Monkey King, RinRin (Saiyuki | Alakazam)/Yutu | Jade Rabbit, Liu Chenxiang & Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Ao Bing | East Sea Third Prince/Nezha | Third Lotus Prince Characters: Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque, Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Original Characters, Marshal Ma (Journey to the West), Nezha (Monkie Kid), Marshal Liu (Journey to the West), General Ba (Journey to the West), General Beng (Journey to the West), Nüwa (Chinese Mythology), Chang'e (Monkie Kid), Yutu | Jade Rabbit, Rumble (Monkie Kid), Savage (Monkie Kid), Guanyin | Goddess of Mercy, RinRin (Saiyuki | Alakazam), Liu Chenxiang, Ao Bing | East Sea Third Prince, Hun Shi Mo | Demon King of Confusion, Erlang Shen (Monkie Kid), Xiaotian Quan | Howling Celestial Dog, Red Son (Monkie Kid), Xiang Liu | Nine-Headed Demon (Monkie Kid) Additional Tags: Parent Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Parent Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque, Good Parent Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Good Parent Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque, Protective Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque, Protective Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque and Tieshan Gongzhu | Princess Iron Fan are Sworn Siblings, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alternate Universe - The Gays Have A Kiddo, Miscarriage, Rainbow Baby, Fluff, Family Fluff, Family Shenanigans, Soft Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque, Soft Sun Wukong | Monkey King, Albino Marshal Ma, Bad Parent Li Jing (Lego Monkie Kid), Li Jing Being an Asshole (Monkie Kid), Angst and Hurt/Comfort, Heavy Angst, Angst and Tragedy, fluff with an angsty ending, Tragedy, Rumble and Savage (Monkie Kid) are Liu Er Mihou | Six-eared Macaque's Children, Rumble and Savage (Monkie Kid) are Sun Wukong | Monkey King's Children, Hurt No Comfort, Sins of the Father, Xiang Liu | Nine-Headed Demon Being an Asshole (Monkie Kid), Xiang Liu | Nine-Headed Demon Has Mommy Issues (Monkie Kid), I will make this a tag I swear, Sad Ending, Unhappy Ending, The Author Regrets Nothing, No beta we die like [redacted] in chapter 30 Series: Part 1 of Cracked Family AU Summary:
Macaque and Wukong's daughter was nearly killed in a surprise attack on their twin stone eggs before they could hatch, their other cub was destroyed entirely. Their daughter is born small, cracked, damaged. Every milestone takes twice as long, but they cherish every moment with their precious little cub. She may be a little slow, constantly cold, and have two tails, but she's theirs, and they love her with all their hearts.
The return of old enemies and the plotting of a shady figure barely remembered by either celestial monkey threaten the safety and happiness of their little star. But the biggest threat to their daughter might be her parents themselves.
After all, how can a Star shine when the Sun and Moon constantly drown out her light?
They've been unstable since that cruel strike against their children, and the cracks are only getting bigger as the years go on.
How long until it breaks?
:3
Happy Shadowpeach family au that slowly gets less happy.
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quitealotofsodapop · 1 year ago
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[However, I see your 5 elements and raise you one DUKE OF THUNDER!]
Okay, that has got to be the best bitchin title I have ever seen. Move over, Thor, we have a new royalty over thunder to gaze at!
Huh, so, if he could be another Celestial Monkey, likely even older than Babs or Gibbs...why didn't Buddha ever mention this guy?
*Several monkeys turn their heads to look at the big man himself*
Buddha: Ah, well, you see-Look, bear!
*Everyone quickly turns to look, realize the trick and snap back to see Buddha hastily making an escape through the window*
Hmm...*looks up which numbers are lucky in China*, okay, so 4 is actually unlucky, which is probs why the 4 Celestial Monkeys are also called the Monkeys of Destruction.
But the lucky numbers are 6 and 8, with 7 being a generally good number, but being also that the 7th Month is called the Ghost Month and it sounds close to 'to deceive'...hmmm...
Oh, and it sounds like a vulgar way of saying 'penis'.
Okay, so, Duke of Thunder, Long Armed Gibbon, Red Buttocked Horse Monkey, Intelligent Stone Monkey and Six Eared Macaque make 5.
Including our little Harbinger of Chaos, that makes 6, which is a lucky number.
But MK being the 7th Celestial Monkey would make it more fun - at least a part of me thinks so - so, who the hell could be the Sixth Monkey?
Wait...Wuxing has Earth and Wood be different elements...
Rin-Rin!
In Saiyuuki, she has similar eye markings to SWK - much like how Macaque has a similar one to SWK - which should mean, she is also a Celestial Monkey!
I once saw somebody headcanon that Rin-Rin is a flower monkey demon and her flower do give me Cosmo (a plant alien) from Sonic X vibes...that could work.
She's just chilling somewhere, never knew what she is and just exists, vibing along the way, not knowing all the bullshit that is going on, like:
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Rin-Rin being that friend in the group who never got into any drama, and is still living their best life at home.
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I even plan on her (at least a character based on her) still being alive/youthful in the TMKATI au, and the other monkeys are confused af. She's like the aunt/cousin in the monkey village who just... never aged?? They think maybe she ate a peach of immortality and didn't know about it.
Someone like Erlang (all seeing eye) peaks in and is like "Whoa. That monkey came *out* of a tree of immortality. Thats new. Wonder if anyone else knows about this... Best not say anything and cause a fuss."
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