#realising now that this is probably why the theming and mood and emotional arcs of stories usually go harder for me than the actual plot
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Hm. Why have I not considered writing my novel drafts in screenplay-ish format before.
#what I struggle most with when I write is transitioning between narration/description and dialogue#and dialogue tags and the like#soā¦ why have I not considered the one option that removes dialogue tags from the equation entirely lol#words never come first for me itās always always an image or a feeling or a little movie#realising now that this is probably why the theming and mood and emotional arcs of stories usually go harder for me than the actual plot#and why I also often struggle to write compelling plots#theyāre not the main thing for me#man what a fine tuesday night to have fundamental realisations about your creativity#see ALSO why the second i start thinking about and describing āplotā in jorvikpov it gets. Immediately worse#and also Does Worse (notes wise)#yāall arenāt there to hear about what happened last week or whatāll happen next week because neither am i#also unrelated my stomach is so hurty right now and i DONT KNOW WHY did i accidentally have lactosed milk or something dumb like thatā¦#z talks#not horse game
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Ok I caught up with wtfock s3 because well, it felt weird to leave unfinished (except a few clips i just didnāt want to watch, like the attack one). hereās what worked and didnāt for me (iām pretty critical so donāt read if that sort of thing upsets you or youāre not in the mood) because i still think having this story remade so often is an unprecendented storytelling experiment worth thinking about even when it doesnāt entirely work (and i think argumented criticism is good, but if you post hate about the actors/fans etc you really suck tbh) :Ā
- to start with positives : like many said, the acting was pretty damn good. overall wtfock has a really solid cast. the willems have succeeded in creating an onscreen queer intimacy that feels very believable, no holds barred and no awkwardness, and they have to be commended for that. thereās a lot of chemistry and tension at first between them, which then turns into something very soft and sweet and puppy-love-like. it was nice seeing Robbe evolve and the sweet bean energy that emanates from how the actor plays him is very very powerful. i also loved the warmth of the flatshare, and as a Dutchie I just adored the Sinterklaas bits, it was so funny and i loved the found family vibes. warmth is just something they do really well, esp with the last clips, perfume shopping, playing board games, the party at the end. They use the Christmassy vibes really well. the cinematography has its moments too, contrasts between warm and cold, the episode at the beach is gorgeous, the sequence in the tunnel, the light on their faces when they are in that classroom surrounded by drawings. wtfock as a whole is also good at creating some very lovable secondary characters, be it Milan, Yasmina, Noor, or especially king Senne. So, I do understand that there are things to love about this remake, which is probably why my disappointment feels so strong. I really wanted to care about these characters in their journey.Ā
- on to the controversial : i donāt necessarily fault them for wanting to show a more prononced aspect of homophobia. i think the debate about this often lacks nuance. on one hand, this is the sixth remake, and homophobia is something that is still often prevalent, and having one remake show that out of six is not in itself a problem. on the other, yes, happy fluffy stories are important, but sometimes people who have gone through stuff like this also need to see their experiences represented. the power of skam is that it shows difficult experiences BUT ALSO a happy ending. that can be very healing, i think, compared to other stories which focus only on the drama. the trouble is, i donāt think they dealt with it very well, or put any effort into processing the consequences of these harrowing things. and if you donāt, it feels cheap.
- on to my main gripe : the writing. previsible, i know. but to me, essential. and this is not about them āchanging thingsā - i like when remakes change stuff, when they do it well. the thing is, i have been burned too many times before. and when i sense that the writing is being wack, it makes it automatically much harder for me to invest emotionally in the characters. and simply put there were signs early on that made me distrust the writers. for starters, the first two episodes gave me a feeling that they didnāt have their priorities in order. the POV-immersion and depth is one of the most powerful aspects of skam, and it was lost. too many early clips felt out of Robbeās perspective, and when it was him it was about Noor ; a few clips to show his discomfort were on point, but there were too many of them, and there were repetitive, losing time on what isnāt really an essential part of Robbeās journey. and while they were spending time on clips that felt like misery flavored filler, they decided several times to condense original clips focused on Isak and Even, together ; like their first meeting and then their first hangout, or later in the series OHN and the minute by minute talk. and i think their story suffered from that. i think because they donāt have a real discussion early on, the buildup of their relationship feels mostly based on physical attraction. and while it certainly is a thing that happens, it just isnāt my fave love story thing. i missed the sweet pining from afar and tension that makes later drama believable. it felt like they brought the drama comparatively too fast without enough character work to make it worthwhile. Also there is just too much time spent on Zoenne drama, and their breakup seems like it foreshadows the dreaded s4 love triangle, which, yikes. the focus is all over the place, the rythm felt incoherent.Ā
- whatās more, they decided to introduce pretty grave elements of plot, like Robbe using slurs against Sander, the homophobic attack, the suicidal urges on both their sides, Sander kissing Britt while he was still saying I love you to Robbe in the morning, without either proper build up or resolution. It made it all feel cheap, jarring, and unearned, especially when they didnāt put trigger warnings or made jokes about it on insta or waited forever to give news about the characters being ok. it felt like drama for the sake of drama, and definitely not written with a vulnerable audience of queer teens in mind. and at the same time, when it came to theĀ ābig scenesā of their relationship, like the first kiss or the universes talk or sanderās episode, it felt more or less lifted from OG without a lot of effort made to adapt it to them. i actually quit live watching/blogging after the first kiss scene, because of how similar it was, and how uninspired it felt, and lukewarm. it felt like a lack of imagination. when it came to OHN, the scene in itself was lovely, but the weird time gap, random timing and people seemingly doing nothing after a suicidal Sander disappeared, sort of broke it for me.Ā In the OG the combo of buildup, longing, realisation, fear, release works so well in a sequence, and splitting it over time really diluted it, to me. Similarly the quickly thrown outĀ ālife is nowā at the ending felt sort of out of nowhere, while in OG it was such a lovely bookend, him apologizing to Eva and reflecting on his growth. The symbolism, which ties everything so beautifully together in themes of rebirth, salvation, baptism, union, faith, deciding your own narrative in OG, here feels inconsistent. There is an attempt I see, something about wasteland vs. warmth/family, but itās often absent of main clips. Itās nowhere near as coherent as it could be.Ā
- all of this builds up to the main problem for me, of the season. which is, i didnāt really get into Robbe and Sanderās relationship. Or their individual arcs for that matter. When it comes to Robbe, I guess he just isnāt my type of character. I feel like he is missing the fire of an Isak. A lot of the time he just felt too passive, like he let other characters make his decisions. I was waiting for him to stand up for himself more than he did. And there are too many scenes of another character doing his coming out for him. And then Sander ; I have to say I donāt understand all the love his character gets. Maybe because thatās because he sort of gives me Dutch fuckboi vibes...but there were several times he just came accross as a flat out asshole. I found him intriguing in his intro clip, chaotic and charming, but that never really went where i expected it to. i didnāt get his passion, what drew him to art. the symbolism around his character - basically Bowie, and drawing Robbe, and Chernobyl (which is a bit tasteless imho, turning a tragedy like that into a cutesy romantic thing), feels ...disjointed, and shallow to me. Like I never really got into it. And maybe some people did and noticed deeper links but to me, I got stuck at the surface. I saw a lot of interesting theories with what was going on with him but in the end they just copied OG. And Iām sad to say, but he ended up feeling like a manic pixie dream boy clichĆ© to me, and i just didnāt understand what drew them to each other so strongly. Yes, Robbe is caring and Sander is in need of care, but that feels like a very reductive reproduction of OG. Beyond that...i donāt know. Certain complexities of the OG i lovedĀ just...were sanded away, like Isak being ignorant about MI and learning compassion. This just...didnāt feel like it had the same depth, and often felt like soapy teenage drama, leaning too hard and too lazily on the actorsā chemistry. i like my romances wordy and solidly enmeshed in character development, and this was not it. It never felt like they had a real conversation about things, esp after the drama.Ā
- i think this is the first remake that made me actually angry for reasons not related to problematic cast shit, and so iām trying to analyze that emotion. for me it comes down to too much drama, too heavy handed. Too much of the boy squad being shitty to Robbe, too much Noor, too much filler clips without any deeper meaning, too much things distracting from getting to know the main characters and going into their issues in depth. They changed stuff, but didnāt have the guts to actually follow through. They broke the mold but only in ways that ended up feeling shallow and unconsequential. Like I would have loved seeing Robbe go to therapy ! see his mom ! Zoe and Robbe go to the police together ! Sander have a complicated home situation ! or doing a Bowie related art installation to express his feelings of alienation ! seeing more of the underground graffiti scene ! or just...something, idk. And them also removing the faith-related themes also felt disappointing. and the ohn clip taking place in the place where sander draws feels very....basic to me, even if it was pretty. veryĀ āoh heās an artist, here is his safe placeā....hm, okay. I didnāt like that they made Britt into such a villain, I didnāt like how the boy squad showed no care for Robbe whatsoever for weeks until the plot said it was time for them to be redeemed in a way that felt too jarring, and I didnāt like that they made Moyo so horrible but redeemed him so easily. I actually thought they would show that itās okay to separate yourself from friends who are that bigoted, because it just shows they are not willing to care for people. And him suddenly saying those sweet and mature things felt too out of characters and a ahahĀ āgotchaā rather than depth . I didnāt like that Robbe, too, was made so virulent by his internalized homophobia but got over it so quickly. I think what disappointed me most, in the end, was that I kept picking up potential and the show kept doing absolutely nothing with it, or confirming my fears, and it made me feel stupid and out of tune with whatever they were doing. And itās, to me, symptomatic in modern storytelling of a trend to privilege shocks and twists over inner coherence and build up. And it makes for...Very underwhelming stuff, in the end.Ā
- all in all, i think this remake illustrates why s3 of OG is not as easy to remake as it sounds. itās very intricate machinery, with a pitch perfect rhythm (and an extremely passionate nitpicky fanbase lmao). and if you donāt get all the parts of why itās so great, youāre going to lose a lot of it. (and all the remakes ended losing up stuff in translation ; more or less compensated by inventivity and charm of their own.) so many mainstream press articles praise the real time/social media format and theĀ āreal talk about teen issuesā which, yeah, is part of the success, but doesnāt explain the devotion on its own. thereās the way the story uses real time to build up a storytelling rythm that feels organic and makes sense as if it was part of the lives of the viewer. Thereās foreshadowing and aftershocks. Wtfock often feels like they wrote the clip numbers on darts and randomly threw them at a week planner. If an episode of a regular series ends on a cliffhanger, we can be thrilled and frustrated and put it aside for next week. but if you end an episode with a character shown to be suicidal, or you donāt show them being okay after a beating, for hours or days, thatās the emotion you leave your viewers with, because skam is a continuous experience. and remakes who pile on drama moments without respite (looking at you too skamfr s4) donāt get how tiring and disengaging this can be, in this format. skam worked so well because of how benevolent it was, on the whole. and also, cheeky, with thatĀ ādonāt take it too seriouslyā deflating humor. grumpy isak inĀ āhate me nowā mode getting bumped into. this lightness and comedy often feels missing here. also my god the social media is absolutely terrible. plus...there is too much filler. honestly, them having more time, on the whole...ended up being a bad thing. Plus Wtfock feels like it has so much more unadressed plot points, like...why did Sander change his mind exactly and kiss Britt again ? How did Robbeās mom react ? Who did the attack ? What is happening w Senne now ? etc. And it feels like they just missed the fact that OG, however subtly, did adress those things.Ā
- now, donāt get me wrong, iām happy itās popular in Belgium. On the whole itās still a beautiful story of love and acceptance. and that people found something in it that spoke to them. but as a remake, itās probably one of the most disappointing yet, to me. and i sort of...donāt get the hype. and i donāt want to be tooĀ āoh cute boys kissingā cynical about it. but i think this illustrates why in the end, this is also very subjective. there are probably things i missed because i didnāt feel the need to examine it in depth or do the extra emotional work that comes with being a devoted fan of something. and some of their choices made me angry, and iām not forgiving when it comes to these things. i still wish them success for s4 and whatever else, but i donāt think i will watch live, at least unless it gets really rave reviews about their treatment of Yasminaās season. i mean they got s2 right, who knows?Ā
#wtfock#also i'm willing to discuss this reasonably but any sort of hate will be deleted on sight lol#i thought a lot about posting this or not but then i was like well this is my blog and i have a lot of emotions about this#so i needed to process
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30 days of Vanitas no Carte. Day #28
So, what is love? [In general or regarding the series.]
Man, you're really coming with hard questions now. We'll try and go with what I think the series is trying to say because I don't want to try and unpack what I think it is. Now, I'm not sure I can pass judgement on the characters' feelings but I'm certainly going to try. At the moment the series seems focused on romantic love within the group of Vanitas, NoƩ, Jeanne, Domi and Luca. I'm only going to address romantic love since that's what NoƩ's question to Vanitas was about. I ramble for so long and I'm not sure it's coherent so everything is under the cut.
For now let's look at why the various characters have feelings for each other.
Here's what we know:
Domi loves NoƩ (There's also mild undertones of her liking Jeanne too)
Jeanne loves Vanitas
Vanitas loves Jeanne
Luca loves Jeanne
NoƩ loves either Vanitas or Jeanne
Domi has liked NoƩ since they were children, since before Louis died. She also seems to have fallen for him pretty quick because of how young they looked when NoƩ first drank her blood. Part of why Domi came to love NoƩ would probably be because he's one of the few people outside her family she saw on a regular basis and probably one of the only non-aristocrats. Domi clearly had a hard upbringing, among her siblings she seems to be somewhat unimportant and her family apart from Louis don't seem very loving at all. NoƩ's one of the few people who can and will give her the affection she needs.
It also helps that NoƩ's a catch. She's right about all his good points when she explains them to Jeanne in chapter 45. NoƩ and Dominique would work well together but I don't think they stand a chance. NoƩ would have noticed Domi's feelings by now if he returned them and it makes a lot of sense that Vanitas was confused by them being just friends. Vanitas absolutely picked up on Domi's feelings towards NoƩ. These two have had multiple romantically/sexually coded moments but because NoƩ never comes across as particularly affected by them it always feels one-sided. Let me just say that it's bizarre that NoƩ hasn't caught on yet, we've seen with Vanitas that NoƩ is very emotionally intelligent and can analyse other people's moods pretty accurately. It could just be that he doesn't understand love though.
Anyway, assuming Domi has some feelings for Jeanne it seems like she has a tendency to fall for people who stick by her in any capacity. Jeanne immediately took a liking to Dominique and they became friends pretty fast. What I'm saying is that I think Domi's just a bit lonely and wants a romantic partner who genuinely likes her as a person.
On to Jeanne. She only started showing any interest in Vanitas once he started being nice to her. The first hints of it was on their date. Then, in GƩvaudan, Vanitas didn't spend any of the arc messing with her. The only time he even tried was when he was flustered by Jeanne and didn't want to get out of his wet clothes. I think the most important turning point was when Vanitas promised to help ChloƩ though. Jeanne obviously has a lot of conflicting feelings about her role as a borreau and Vanitas provided her with a way to avoid killing someone she cares about. I think that was probably when Jeanne started to see his powers in possibly a similar light to how NoƩ viewed them in volumes 1 and 2. Also, Jeanne seems to find physical affection very important if her pushing Vanitas down for blood and her comments in the last chapter are anything to go off.
Now Vanitas. He was originally lying about loving Jeanne. His reaction to his love proves it, since he didn't seem at all concerned before these last few chapters. I think the weird relationship he created between himself and Jeanne in the first few volumes probably reflects some twisted understanding of love on his own part. Anyway, I'd say he fell for Jeannne after she fell for him. At the moment when she smiled at him (You know the smile) and he started to see her differently. I think this also put his other interactions with her into a new light for him. He started to actually realise what kind of person Jeanne is and that she's actually a lot more interesting than he first gave her credit for.
Luca's feelings for Jeanne seem like the most doomed feelings in the series. Jeanne obviously wants to protect him but she still sees him as a child. Luca doesn't seem to interact with many people, certainly no one his own age, and Jeanne is probably one of the few people who treats him kindly. Ruthven, despite being his uncle, seems fairly cold (he was plotting an assassination after all) and he probably doesn't see Loki that often. Essentially Luca is lonely and Jeanne is a kind, strong and beautiful woman. Who can blame him for getting attached to her?
Finally, NoƩ. The most confusing member of the cast. I'll be honest, to me he gives off the fewest romantic vibes out of all of them. And the fandom seems split on who he has feelings for. I have a preference but I'll consider both. Being clear, I would prefer if he were interested in Vanitas because I think it makes more sense narratively and I just like the ship. So let's address his relationship with Vani first.
If we're only taking into account interactions before chapter 12 I'll say that NoƩ doesn't have many reasons to like Vanitas. They were still kind of on rocky ground in their relationship. At that point in the story if he had romantic interest in Vanitas it would mostly boil down to two things as I see it: 1) A fascination with Vanitas as a person 2) Vanitas's blood. If you disagree feel free to tell me but honestly I can't imagine any deeper reasons to be interested in Vani at that point.
Beyond chapter 12 though NoƩ does have more reasons to care about Vanitas. NoƩ gets to understand Vanitas a lot better throughout the catacombs and GƩvaudan and learns to rely on him. Vanitas has also grown fond of NoƩ (in a tsundere kind of way) and affection will make you like a person more. Besides that NoƩ has literally asked for Vani's blood, and while he was understandably a bit out of it, that's not a normal thing to ask from your human friend.
If NoƩ likes Jeanne then it's mostly based on physical appearance. Before chapter 12 NoƩ had never interacted 1 on 1 with Jeanne. He'd only ever fought her in volume 1 and been near her in volume 2. So, if Jeanne is the one he likes NoƩ just likes strong, beautiful women I guess. After chapter 12 the only time I can remember them interacting was when Jeanne threatened to kill him in GƩvaudan. This at least shows Jeanne doesn't have much interest in him. But there is some evidence that NoƩ could like Jeanne and that is at least what Domi thinks.
So, what does all that mean? Well, I think Jun is definitely saying there needs to be some emotional vulnerability. All the characters fall in love with people they trust (possibly bar NoƩ???), this is particularly evident with Vani and Jeanne's progression after they started to open up more. But if emotional availability was all you needed Domi and NoƩ would be a couple.
The characters fall in love if the other person has something they desire and this is where the one-sidedness of some of the relationships comes in. Domi and Luca desire NoƩ and Jeanne respectively but they don't possess anything that those two desire in return. A big thing for a lot of the characters seems to be physical attractiveness. In the only reciprocal relationship between Vani and Jeanne they both obviously find the person physically attractive. Jeanne has made her feelings very clear in recent chapters.
So I guess it's slightly different for every character. Some would need more or less attention, physically or emotionally, and for things to work out it would probably have to match up with what their partner needs from a relationship. It was easy to write based on stuff thatās clear in the text but interpreting what it means for the themes of the story is so hard and I canāt explain myself very well. Let's just say I don't know where Jun is taking this story but she's concocted a hell of a complicated love triangle. And yes, I am exposing myself as a vanoe and domijeanne shipper.
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Kaito Momota: Thereās More to a Hero
Thereās a lot of things to like about Kaito as a character, but one of those things that I donāt see talked about nearly enough is his absolutely fantastic character arc. Yes, you heard me ā while his main role in the story may seem to be to support Shuichi and Makiās development, that doesnāt stop Kaito from having an arc of his own too. Itās technically not character ādevelopmentā if you define that as a character growing stronger and overcoming their problems, since thatās rather pointedly not what happens with Kaito, but itās nonetheless a progression that is a clearly deliberate part of the story. Itās just done very subtly ā which is precisely why I like it so much and one of the biggest reasons Kaito is my favourite character in V3. I still enjoy character arcs that are fairly out in the open, like Shuichiās and Makiās are thanks to Kaito encouraging them to talk about things, but I enjoy delightfully subtle character writing even more, and thatās exactly what Kaitoās arc is.
So Iām going to talk about it. At great length. Strap yourselves in.
Before we get into Kaitoās arc in the actual story, though, thereās some things we first need to establish about Kaitoās worldview that are central to the way he acts during his arc.
Kaitoās paradoxical opinion on weakness
Kaitoās biggest priority is helping out other people, especially those who are weak and in need of support. He thoroughly advocates the idea that itās okay to be weak, just so long as you can accept your weakness and work on overcoming it. Clearly heās thought about this idea often enough that heās even come up with his own way of framing it that puts a positive spin on things ā the emotional weakness is your āenemyā that you have to āfightā by getting stronger. And as long as someone has made the decision to fight that enemy of theirs, Kaito will do everything in his power to help them through it, because no-one should have to carry their burdens alone. Heās so good and encouraging and supportive when it comes to helping others deal with their weaknesses.
And Kaito is so delightfully, excruciatingly hypocritical when it comes to applying any of this philosophy to himself.
He suffers an awful lot throughout the story ā not only does he spend half the game slowly and painfully dying and being very much not okay about it (he canāt die here; he hasnāt even gone to space yet!), as someone whoās always trying to support and protect the people around him, he hates the fact that he hasnāt been able to stop any of the killings or save anyone or find a way out of here. If it were anyone else feeling this way, Kaito would be encouraging them to talk about it with their friends, because even if their friends wouldnāt necessarily have an answer for their problems, just sharing the burden rather than trying to bear it alone would help. Yet Kaito himself refuses to do so ā he constantly, stubbornly insists that he is Completely Fine and definitely not dying and doesnāt have any kind of worries whatsoever.
Even if itās difficult for him, Kaito should be willing to try and accept the āweaknessā that he clearly considers his illness and inability to save everyone to be. His own advice, advice he gives to others numerous times, says that itās okay to be weak as long as you can accept it, that accepting your weakness and talking about it with your friends is the first step to getting stronger. But Kaito refuses to accept his own weakness or share it with anyone ā he doesnāt even really try to, as if the part of him deep down that realises heās weak doesnāt even want to become stronger.
āI canāt show weakness in front of my sidekickā¦ā
The best way to appreciate whatās at the core of this apparent contradiction is to look at Kaitoās Harmonious Heart event in the bonus mode. Iām delighted that this event exists to explore the topic of Kaitoās weakness and why he hides it, but I also think itās quite reasonable that such a thing only happens in a non-canon AU. Kaito is so damn stubbornly determined to hide his weakness under all circumstances, especially from Shuichi, that itās perfectly natural that this topic would only get explicitly addressed in an AU scenario where Shuichi literally gains mindreading powers.
Kaitoās problems in this AU are nothing compared to in canon ā nobody has died, and he doesnāt have the virus, and heās playing an active role in their escape just by befriending Shuichi. Yet even so, something as small as briefly worrying that they might be stuck here forever is enough for Kaito to berate himself over. He has such unreasonably high standards for his own āstrengthā that even a fleeting pessimistic thought that he immediately shoots down counts as being weak and not like him.
But the most important statement of them all is Kaito thinking, āI canāt show weakness in front of my sidekickā. All of the non-optimal outcomes of the event, which includes the two that donāt even target that statement, have a running theme of Kaitoās belief that showing weakness to his sidekick is The Worst Possible Thing that he could ever do. The second-best outcome, which results in a familiar show of Kaito insisting heās Totally Fine and obviously not freaking out about this (which Shuichi can tell is not entirely truthful), has Kaito make a point of how he definitely wouldnāt freak out to Shuichi in particular ā as if showing weakness to somebody else who isnāt his sidekick wouldnāt be quite as bad. In the second-worst outcome, where Shuichi agrees that Kaito doesnāt ever show him his weakness (and is probably about to follow up that he should), Kaito cuts him off by insisting that yes, that would be absurd. But since he canāt shake his negative mood, heād rather leave than continue to risk showing weakness to Shuichi, even though this means passing up on a chance for them to hang out together. And the worst outcome happens if Shuichi tries to reassure him that itās okay to be afraid sometimes, because all Kaito hears from that is confirmation that Shuichi has seen his weakness. He hates having made Shuichi worry about him and considers this to be failing his sidekick.
What we can gather from this is that Kaito hiding his weakness from his sidekicks is, strange as it may sound, him being really idiotically selfless. He is convinced that he must not under any circumstances show any ounce of weakness to his sidekicks, because that would constitute failing them as the person meant to support them and help with their problems. Clearly Kaito has a very specific definition of āsidekickā that is quite different to the usual one: he means it as someone whom the āheroā is supporting and mentoring through their issues, in which all of the help given is entirely one-directional, from the hero to the sidekick, and never the other way around. He believes that his sidekicks need to see him as this completely invincible pillar of support in order for him to be able to help them ā that if they ever realised he isnāt so invincible and has weaknesses and worries of his own, theyād lose all faith in him and wouldnāt be able to be inspired by or depend on him any more.
The best outcome of the Harmonious Heart event happens when Shuichi correctly realises that the core of the issue is him being Kaitoās āsidekickā and deliberately moves the focus away from that. In Kaitoās definition, a hero canāt afford to show weakness to his sidekick lest he fail at properly supporting him ā but Shuichi is also his friend, and friends are equals who can show weakness to each other and support each other because thatās what friends do. If Shuichi sees him as not just a pillar of support but also an equal friend whom heās willing to offer support to, then Kaito showing weakness to Shuichi wonāt constitute āfailingā him. Learning this is enough to already make Kaito feel better, without him even needing to open up about the feelings that were bothering him in the first place ā meaning that the thing that was really bothering him the most all along was the fear of letting Shuichi down. (Heās not lying when he says heās alright now, because he does so in a much more subdued way than when he is Definitely Fineā¢.)
Which suggests that in canon, too, that very fear of showing weakness to his sidekicks and ending up unable to support them any more is in and of itself the biggest worry Kaito has. Itās bigger than any of the initial worries, like his impending death and his powerlessness, that heās afraid of admitting to them in the first place. He would rather deal with those fears entirely by himself than risk letting his sidekicks down by sharing them ā heās so idiotically convinced that showing weakness would be failing them and so determined not to ever fail them that he is actively making his own suffering worse. Kaito is so incredibly, self-destructively selfless and I love it.
What it means to be a āheroā
Of course, Kaitoās conviction that he couldnāt ever support his sidekicks any more if he showed weakness to them is stupendously dumb of him. Even aside from the part where his sidekicks are also his friends and are willing to support him too, having weaknesses and struggles shouldnāt automatically make you a failure as a hero ā if anything, it should be the opposite. If Shuichi had been aware of just how much Kaito was suffering and yet fighting through it to smile for their sakes, thatād most likely have inspired him even more. Obviously the heroes that struggle but keep fighting regardless are the most inspiring ones! What kind of stories has Kaito been reading that he believes heroes are only heroic if they always win without any trouble at all?
As it happens, the answer to this question does exist, in the form of Kaitoās second and third free time events where he tells of his heroic past āadventuresā that turn out to be just make-believe games he played as a kid. These two events seem at first glance to be mostly extraneous ā entertainingly ridiculous, sure, but apparently not that useful for helping to understand what makes him tick. But they do still have significance, because they show us Kaitoās idea of a hero ā and itās someone unrealistically flawless. His supposed adventures are just one big wish-fulfilment tale of him achieving cool feat after cool feat, straight from the mind of a child whoās yet to grasp the idea that showing a hero overcoming genuine difficulties and hardships makes a much better story than just showing them succeeding effortlessly in everything they do. Yet Kaito still tells this story as if it really happened. Obviously he knows it wasnāt real, but he talks as if he wants it to be, as if he doesnāt have any sense that itās childish and over-the-top and way too simplistic to truly make a compelling narrative.
And at this point, I would object to the notion that Kaito never grew out of such simplistic stories and started appreciating more complex narratives as he grew up from that little kid into a young adult. Except that Kaito is a character in Danganronpa V3, and that means that he literally never did grow up like that. He began his existence as a high school student who saw heroes as being flawless and invincible when he was an overimaginative little kid and therefore still does now. In fact, Iām almost positive that the in-universe writers never meant for Kaito to have all of these weaknesses and issues that Iām talking about here at all. I believe Tsumugi saw Kaito as merely a narrative device to further Shuichiās character development, and she gave him the virus not for the sake of his own storyline but so that Shuichi would eventually be forced to stand on his own without Kaitoās support. To that end, the only kind of backstory she wrote for Kaito was one of him being (or pretending to be) exactly the kind of idealised hero that she thinks would help inspire Shuichi, without giving him any kind of ongoing difficulties or weaknesses of his own to work through during the killing game. And so itās pretty ironic that thatās precisely why Kaito ended up with so many issues and his whole delightful character arc ā because he was ingrained with this unrealistically perfect standard for heroism that no actual human being could possibly hope to meet. Kaito is so harsh on himself and his own weaknesses compared to how accepting he is of everyone elseās because heās meant to be the hero who inspires his sidekicks, and heroes arenāt supposed to be even the slightest bit weak.
There is one more exception to Kaitoās attitude towards weakness other than himself, and thatās Ryoma. Youād think Kaito would have acknowledged that Ryoma was weak and in need of support and reached out to him, like he does to everyone else who needs it. But he doesnāt ā because, in his own words, he saw Ryoma as a hero. Itās not even a stretch to imagine that Kaito really did mean the same kind of impossibly cool hero as in his own childhood stories, given that Ryoma had freaking shounen anime tennis superpowers, and Kaito had probably heard about that. So Kaito holds Ryoma to exactly the same irrationally high standards of āheroismā that he has for himself: a hero must be invincible in order to be suitably heroic and inspiring, and if they show themselves to be weak and fallible and struggling, then theyāve failed anyone who ever looked up to them. Kaito doesnāt realise until itās too late that Ryoma is someone he could have helped ā maybe even saved ā because heās too hung up on the fact that Ryoma failed in his role as a hero. That hostility that Kaito shows towards Ryoma for being āweakā? Yeah, thatās exactly the same kind of thing Kaito would therefore be directing towards himself when heās feeling weak too.
Putting Shuichi on a pedestal
So now that weāve established Kaitoās worldview and his messed-up double standard about heroes, itās time to get into his arc during the actual story. The main core of it is his hidden jealousy of Shuichi, and one of the two contributing factors to this is the way he comes to see Shuichi as stronger and more of a hero than himself.
Thereās subtle hints that Kaito seeing Shuichi this way begins to happen as early as chapter 2, in fact. In their first training session, as Kaito explains why heās doing this for Shuichi, he says that heās been asking himself āIs the one Kaede entrusted her wish to really this weak?ā and that itās made him feel frustrated. The only other time Kaito uses the word āfrustratedā to describe his feelings is when heās admitting to his jealousy at the end, making me think that thereās a similar thing going on here, too. Shuichi showed incredible strength in Kaedeās trial, facing the truth ā a truth that Kaito himself also struggled to accept ā and saving everyone despite how much it hurt. Kaede entrusted her wish to Shuichi because she recognised that strength in him, that potential to continue to be the one who faces the truth and saves everyone.
Kaitoās frustration comes from the fact that Shuichi can be so strong in one sense but at the same time still be weak and in need of support in another. In Kaitoās worldview, people are one or the other: either theyāre strong, invincible heroes who inspire others, or theyāre weak and deserve support to help them grow stronger. It doesnāt make any sense that Shuichi can be both, and that bothers Kaito in a way he canāt properly articulate because he isnāt consciously aware of this double standard of his. Still, despite his confusion, Kaito is able to recognise Shuichiās weak side as something he can help with and is determined to do so, because itās the best way that he can carry on Kaedeās wish.
Of course, once Shuichi has Kaitoās support, he starts being able to fight that weak side of him a lot more, to the point that Kaito very quickly begins to see nothing but strength from him. In the second trial, when Shuichi answers Kirumiās protests of āDonāt you want to protect everyone?!ā by declaring āIām doing this because I want to protect everyone!ā, the camera briefly pans to Kaito saying āShuichiā¦ā in surprise. Thatās all he says; itās such a small thing amidst the argument between Shuichi and Kirumi, but the fact that itās there at all means that something meaningful has to be going on in Kaitoās head at that point. Given the timing of it, I believe this is Kaito being taken aback at just how much of a hero Shuichi is managing to be, apparently without Kaitoās help. Chapter 3ās trial doesnāt help matters either, because thanks to Kaitoās phobia, Shuichi ends up proving that he can investigate and solve an entire case just fine without any help from Kaito.
Since Kaito is stuck on this false dichotomy that people are only either strong or weak and cannot be both, he takes this kind of thing as a sign that Shuichi is simply strong after all, and therefore never really had any weaknesses or needed Kaito in the first place. This becomes noticeable even before the third trial: in the first training session in chapter 3, once Maki leaves and Kaito and Shuichi are discussing the idea that she needs this because sheās weak, Kaito says, āWell, in that sense, youāreā¦ No, your case is a little different.ā Kaito was about to start talking about Shuichiās weakness and compare it to Makiās, so he still wasnāt quite thinking this on a fully conscious level ā until he stopped himself as he realised that Shuichiās case is different to Makiās because, as far as Kaito sees it, heās not weak. But Kaito already doesnāt want to confront the idea that Shuichi might be strong enough to not need his support, so when Shuichi asks him what he means, he hurriedly changes the subject.
Heās wrong, of course; Shuichi still has those same weaknesses and still needs Kaitoās support, even though heās been able to grow a lot already because of it. Kaito being unable to see this is partly because of his inability to comprehend people being both strong and weak at the same time, but itās also in large part because Shuichi really does seem a lot stronger from the outside. Itās one thing to play as Shuichi and see all of the anxiety and self-doubt inside his head, but almost all of that is confined to his inner monologue. On the surface, and particularly in class trials, Shuichi appears to be effortlessly solving the cases and saving everyone, and thatās the Shuichi that Kaito sees. When Kaito confesses his jealousy to Shuichi at the end, he seems genuinely unaware of the obvious truth that Shuichi could only keep being that strong because of him. If heād known that, heād have had no reason to be jealous at all.
A really bad time to be dying
But even though Kaito comes to see Shuichi as more flawlessly strong than he really is, that alone probably wouldnāt have been an issue. Kaito should have been able to simply be proud of Shuichi and not jealous. His past sidekicks, whom he talks about in his fourth free time event, have all reached greater heights than heās currently at (and while he might be exaggerating a bit about how much influence he had on them, I donāt believe heās outright lying in this one) ā but heās totally okay with that and is just happy that he was the one to help them achieve greatness. Itās all fine so long as Kaito can remain confident in his own strength and keep believing that heāll also be that awesome one day.
So the other, arguably more important contributing factor to Kaitoās jealousy of Shuichi is the way he starts to see himself as weaker than he wants to be, first as his phobia renders him useless for half a chapter, but then on a much more serious level as he realises that heās dying. The constant pain heās in by at least chapter 4 onwards (as evidenced by his comments about his Virtual World avatar) serves as a constant, unyielding reminder of the fact that his death keeps getting closer and closer and thereās nothing he can do about it. Even though heās determined not to show it ā because this is weak of him and he cannot fail his sidekicks by letting them see it ā he has to be feeling so, so scared and powerless. And Kaitoās not only afraid of dying; heās even more afraid of dying pointlessly. Although heās as desperate to survive as anyone else, heād be more able to accept the idea of dying if it were the kind of death a hero would have, some sort of sacrifice to save everyone and help them all escape this killing game, since everyone elseās well-being is even more important to him than his own. But at this rate, heās just going to die. For no reason. For nothing.
Still, we see barely any of this on the surface. Even though Kaito really shouldnāt be hiding it so stubbornly, even though heās only doing so because heās terrified of āfailingā his sidekicks if he lets them see whatās really happening to him, the way he continues to smile and do his best to support his friends despite what heās going through is really impressive and takes incredible strength. But recall Kaitoās Harmonious Heart event, where even having a brief pessimistic thought counts as being weak to him, despite the fact that he immediately shoots it down and pushes himself to stay positive, which he should be able to understand is strength. Even though heās dealing with the fear and helplessness of his inevitable death in such a brave, selfless way, none of that matters to Kaito next to the fact that heās feeling that fear and helplessness in the first place. People are only either strong or weak and canāt be both, so if heās feeling like this, then he must be weak, right? But thatās unacceptable ā heās supposed to be the hero to Shuichi and Maki, not the weak one who needs their support.
Kaito spends most of chapter 4, the first chapter in which heās fully aware that heās dying, desperately trying to compensate for it and prove that he can still be the hero. Itās the only chapter in which he repeatedly tells Shuichi and Maki that they shouldnāt bear their burdens alone, which is more than just him being excruciatingly hypocritical ā his underlying reason for it is that heās trying to stress that they should let him help, that he can help. Of course, he spent most of chapters 2 and 3 helping Shuichi and Maki bear their burdens too, but the difference is that in those chapters, he never made a big point of the fact that he was supporting them. He just did it, without expecting any acknowledgement. So the fact that he suddenly seems to subtly want acknowledgement for it in chapter 4 when it never mattered to him before has to be caused by the way his impending death is making him feel. Kaitoās words to Shuichi and Maki encouraging them to share their burdens are him desperately trying to prove that heās not useless, that they still need him and he can still support them and make a difference even though heās weak and dying (right?).
Think about how Gonta acts during chapter 4, constantly offering to help and trying to think of even the smallest ways he can be useful to everyone because heās feeling so powerless in his inability to protect people. Thatās a pretty direct parallel to how Kaito feels during this chapter too; heās just much less honest about it.
Case 4: the build-up
Thereās also a gradual but very deliberate build-up of Kaito being made to feel inferior next to Shuichi from the beginning of chapter 4ās investigation. First Kokichi insists that Kaito shouldnāt be Shuichiās investigation partner because heās the initial suspect, thus allowing Shuichi to prove for a second time that he doesnāt need Kaitoās support to investigate a case. Then Kokichi starts objecting to Kaitoās involvement not even because heās a suspect but just because heās totally annoying Shuichi and getting in his way and obviously couldnāt possibly have anything useful to offer him, right. Meanwhile, most of the others have started to mindlessly rely on Shuichiās detective skills to save them and frequently talk about how great he is, rubbing in the apparent fact that Shuichiās so much more of a hero than Kaito and doesnāt need him at all. And Shuichi himself obliviously contributes to this with his experiment with the cell phone, in which Kaito is briefly and subtly thrilled that Shuichi needs his help, only to find that the āhelpā consists of āstand there doing literally nothing and then look like an idiot as I log you out without warningā.
Even in the first half of the trial, things donāt go easy on Kaito. Everyone continues to hail Shuichi as their sole saviour, something Kokichi deliberately fuels, which is still him purposefully jabbing at Kaitoās issues even though he does so without mentioning Kaito at all. Not only that, but Shuichi also ends up refuting several of Kaitoās arguments, even before Gonta becomes the main suspect. Partly this is because Kaito wasnāt allowed to investigate properly and has an incomplete understanding of the facts compared to Shuichi. But still, the fact that he even tries to make arguments despite knowing his understanding is probably incomplete is a result of him being determined to contribute as much as he can and show that heās not useless. Back in the second case, even though he investigated with Shuichi that time, Kaito barely took part in the actual deductions in the trial and was happy to sit back and watch Shuichi solve things and just give him the encouragement he needed. But not here. Not when heās dying and Shuichi can do everything without him and heās desperate to prove that he can still make a difference. Yet, because his arguments are wrong, his attempts to help just end up making him look even more obviously inferior to Shuichi than he would have done if he had sat back and said nothing.
Kaitoās Rebuttal Showdown in particular is great ā on the surface he makes it sound like heās helping by pointing out his sidekickās mistake and offering to help fix it, but the reality of it is that Kaito is desperately trying to prove that Shuichi needs his help. Usually Kaito would have enough faith in Shuichi to let him finish his argument before questioning it, but here he jumps in mid-sentence because heās overeager to find the slightest thing he can āhelpā with ā if heād just waited another few seconds, Shuichi would have gone on to explain exactly how Miu could walk through that wall and they wouldnāt have needed to do this at all. And Kaito is clearly a lot more bothered than he claims to be at the fact that he turned out to be wrong and only ended up wasting Shuichiās time.
Case 4: the breaking point
While Kaito is trying as hard as he can not to let all of this get to him, and he mostly does a convincing job of pretending that it isnāt, things finally reach breaking point once it becomes clear that the culprit has to be Gonta.
Kokichi would try and have you believe that Kaitoās whole problem in this part of the trial is that Shuichi being a detective means that heās more suspicious of others, the exact opposite of how Kaito is, oh how ironic. But Kaito knows thatās not really the issue. His principles about believing in people come with the acknowledgement that youāre taking a risk by doing so, and that if you do turn out to have been wrong, thatās on you for misjudging them. Shuichiās detectiveās instincts really arenāt so incompatible with Kaitoās philosophy at all. Even back during the investigation in chapter 1, Kaito encouraged a hesitant Shuichi to investigate any suspicion that he has (even if it were towards Kaito himself) until heās satisfied, because doing anything else isnāt how a detective should act. This culminates in Kaito confidently declaring at the beginning of chapter 4ās investigation that even if he was the culprit, Shuichi would still see it through and reach the truth. He has no genuine reason to be angry at Shuichi during this trial ā Kaito would never blame Shuichi for being the way heās supposed to be. More than anything, Kaito knows that Shuichi is being strong by being able to acknowledge painful truths like this, and at the best of times heās able to be proud of Shuichi for being this way.
This isnāt so much about belief and suspicion. Like everything up to this point, this is about strength ā Shuichiās strength and Kaitoās weakness.
Letās face it: the possibility that Gonta could genuinely be the culprit is agonisingly painful to anyone who believes in him and appreciates how much of a pure, earnest, selfless person he is, which of course includes both Kaito and Shuichi. By this point, Shuichi is more than capable of enduring that pain and pushing through it to confirm the truth. Heās had a lot of practice at doing so since Kaedeās trial, and thanks to both hers and Kaitoās support, heās spent a lot of time talking about it and thinking about how to overcome this weakness of his. Itās not that Gontaās guilt hurts Shuichi any less ā itās just that heās grown strong enough to deal with it.
But meanwhile, this whole time, Kaito has had absolutely no practice at confronting his own pain and weakness. The worse his illness has become, the more ashamed and afraid heās felt, and the harder heās tried to ignore it and block it out and avoid dealing with it. Unlike Shuichi, he hasnāt grown any stronger or better at healthily dealing with his own problems at all. So when Gonta comes under suspicion and things begin to hurt, Kaito isnāt strong enough to face it. His initial, instinctive response is to block that out too, insisting that Gonta being the culprit is just not possible and so thereās no point even discussing it.
And yet, by doing that, Kaito is running away from the truth, the exact thing Shuichi used to struggle with but has now become so good at that he makes it look almost effortless. All Kaito is doing is proving yet again how much weaker and less of a hero he is than Shuichi. The only way for this to be wrong, for Kaito to not be the weak one here, is for him to keep desperately arguing that Gonta being the culprit isnāt true, because if it isnāt the truth then heās not being weak by refusing to admit it, heās just being logical, right? So Kaito shifts from saying they shouldnāt be talking about it at all to making rational-sounding arguments defending Gonta ā but even so, thereās hints that Kaito realises deep down that Gonta really must have done it, and some of the points he tries to make use facts that he knows arenāt true. The more arguments Shuichi shoots down and the more certain Gontaās guilt becomes, the more obviously weak Kaito is being by refusing to accept the truth, so the more desperately he has to deny that itās the truth at all to avoid looking weak.
Kaito gets angrier and angrier towards Shuichi as the trial goes on, but itās not remotely that he truly is angry at Shuichi for listening to Kokichi and doubting Gonta ā his accusations along those lines are not the point and are just excuses to justify his anger. The real reason for it is simply that the pain of knowing that Gonta really is guilty and that heās being so much weaker than Shuichi by refusing to accept it is too much for him to keep inside. Kaitoās only way of dealing with pain that he canāt handle and canāt suppress is by lashing out in anger ā hopefully at a deserving target, such as usually Monokuma, or in this case, Kokichi. A lot of his anger at Kokichi here is not really a rational attempt to argue that heās the culprit, especially once that gets proven impossible, but is just Kaito trying to deflect his pain, to have someone he can blame so that heās not the one at fault here by being unable to face the truth. He even lashes out at Kokichi by voting for him at the end, which is so pathetically, desperately pointless because he knows that Gonta is the culprit and that if everyone else was equally weak as to do the same thing as him then theyād all be killed. But some of Kaitoās anger also gets directed at Shuichi as the one shooting down his arguments and proving how weak he is and being effortlessly stronger than him. The last thing Kaito wants to do is hurt Shuichi and make things even harder for him, but heās so desperate and in so much pain that he canāt control himself and realise what heās doing and stop.
Ideally, Kaito should have been able to let his belief in and friendship with Shuichi support him through this painful ordeal of realising that Gonta killed someone. But of course he canāt do that ā heās supposed to be the hero and Shuichi the sidekick and itās not meant to go the other way. Shuichi even does try and reach out to him and acknowledge the pain heās in ā āI know how you feel. I know because we all feel itā ā but for Kaito, admitting that he feels this way and that Shuichi is dealing with it better than him is inconceivable. Instead of accepting Shuichiās support, the pain of the notion that he even needs it just makes Kaito even more defensively angry, and itās this that triggers his Argument Armament and him fighting more directly against Shuichi than at any other point in the trial. This gets even worse at the end, when Kaito coughs up blood in front of everyone and it becomes near-impossible to hide how weak and pathetic he thinks he is, and then on top of it all Shuichi reaches out and offers to help him back to the dorm, making it so obvious whoās really the hero here. All Kaito can do in a desperate attempt not to have everything fall apart even more is to furiously push his best friend away, insisting that he can walk on his own, that he doesnāt need Shuichiās help.
Rock bottom
The next morning, Kaitoās scrambling to pick up the broken pieces, to convince everyone that heās completely fine and keep pushing them forward as best he can. The only sign he gives that heās not fine and that the nightmare of the previous trial really did happen is that heās no longer looking at or directly talking to Shuichi.
It might seem on the surface that Kaito acts this way because heās still upset with Shuichi for what he did to Gonta during the trial, but thatās not it at all. For one thing, if he were angry at Shuichi, then expressing it by refusing to talk to him would be incredibly passive-aggressive of him, which is not remotely how Kaito operates; if he has a problem with someone, heās never afraid to let them know it. But more to the point, he no longer has any reason to be angry. Kaitoās anger during the trial had no rational reason behind it and was nothing more than him lashing out in the heat of the moment at the awful situation that was unfolding. That wouldnāt have lasted into the next morning. Consider the time he punched Shuichi at the end of Kaedeās trial, which was another emotional reaction because he was too upset to think straight and understand that Shuichi had a different way of reacting to the pain of Kaedeās death. The next morning, Kaito apologised for that, because heād had time to re-evaluate it and realise it was a mistake. So again with Gonta, Kaito should have had plenty of time to calm down and acknowledge that what Shuichi did was necessary to save everyone else, something heād really known the whole time and just couldnāt admit to in the heat of things. Shuichi talks about how he doesnāt feel right apologising to Kaito when he knows his actions werenāt wrong ā and Kaito would agree with that. More than once, Kaito had mentioned his principle that you shouldnāt apologise for something you believe was the right thing to do, even if it didnāt work out so well. Therefore, it should be clear that Kaito isnāt angry at Shuichi or waiting for an apology or anything of the sort.
Kaitoās problem is with himself. While heās had a whole night to calm down and stop feeling that reactionary anger towards Shuichi, thatās also given him plenty of time to think about his actions during the trial. And what did he do? He showed weakness in front of his sidekick. Huge, significant, undeniable weakness, while Shuichi showed nothing but strength. Not only that, but despite having always promised heād support Shuichi no matter what, that heād help Shuichi carry his burdens, he utterly failed to do so during the trial. Rather than helping Shuichi through the painful ordeal of accusing Gonta, Kaito made things even more difficult for him by lashing out like he did.
This is why Kaito wonāt look at or directly talk to Shuichi in the beginning of chapter 5 ā because heās too ashamed to face him. He feels like heās failed Shuichi so completely that thereās no going back from it, that Shuichi must have lost all faith in him, that he doesnāt have the right to call Shuichi his sidekick any more when heās so much weaker himself. Every time Kaito looks at Shuichi, heās reminded of how much stronger than him Shuichi has proven himself to be, how badly he wishes he could be that strong but isnāt. Heās just about able to keep up his faƧade and pretend everythingās normal in front of everyone else, but he canāt bring himself to do so for Shuichi because heās convinced Shuichi would see right through it. Yet Kaito still canāt outright admit to his weakness in front of him (much less in front of everyone), so instead he just pathetically runs away from the whole issue by trying to pretend Shuichi isnāt there.
Itās very telling, during their conversation through the hangar window later that chapter, that when Shuichi hesitantly tries to bring up Gontaās trial, Kaito just immediately starts talking about how much he believes in Shuichi and how great of a detective he is. He doesnāt even mention Gonta or reassure Shuichi that he did the right thing in that trial or anything of the sort, because he always understood that and that was never the problem in the first place. While heās still not quite yet admitting to having been jealous, Kaitoās praise of Shuichi here is his way of saying heās come to terms with the fact that Shuichi is stronger and more of a hero than him. Everything else aside, Shuichiās still his best friend and Kaitoās incredibly proud of him, and thatās all that matters in the end. Facing the literal end of the world does wonders to make you re-evaluate your priorities like this.
Trying toĀ āfixā things
Really, they should have talked about this much sooner, during any one of the awkward silences earlier in chapter 5. If Shuichi had realised what Kaitoās problem was, it would have been simple for him to reassure Kaito that he doesnāt feel let down at all, that he doesnāt blame Kaito for not being strong enough to face the truth because he knows how that feels, and that they need to stay friends and keep supporting each other, now more than ever. But Shuichi doesnāt do this, because he doesnāt realise the problem is on Kaitoās end and assumes that Kaito is angry at him for Gontaās death. This is in large part down to Shuichiās own insecurities and tendency to irrationally blame himself for everything bad that happens that has even a little bit to do with him ā that irrationality would easily extend to assuming Kaito must be blaming him too. But itās also partly because, one way or another, Kaito actually succeeded in getting Shuichi to look up to him and assume that heās basically invincible ā emotionally, at least. Even though Kaito ends up convinced after trial 4 that Shuichi must have realised how weak he is, Shuichi still hasnāt. So Kaitoās determination to have Shuichi see him this way ends up working even better than he expected to the point that it makes Kaitoās own suffering worse yet again, because it renders Shuichi incapable of realising what the problem is and helping Kaito when he needs it the most.
Of course, the other way for Shuichi to realise what Kaitoās problem is would be for Kaito to actually tell him. The responsibility is really on Kaito to start the conversation here, and he should be perfectly aware of that. He was in the wrong during Gontaās trial, not Shuichi, which means heās the one who owes Shuichi an apology. But even though Kaito already feels like heās failed Shuichi and shouldnāt have anything to lose on that front, heās still terrified of letting Shuichi see any more weakness than he already has. So rather than working on mustering up the courage to face Shuichi and admit to all the pain heās in, Kaito instead spends the first half of chapter 5 fixating on a plan to fight Monokuma and get them all out of here. This sounds unrelated, but itās not ā this is almost entirely about trying to compensate for his failure in Gontaās trial. Kaito canāt admit to failing Shuichi while he still feels nothing but weak and useless compared to him, but if he can make up for it somehow, prove himself to be a hero worthy of looking Shuichi in the eye again, then itāll be so much easier to apologise for failing him. He doesnāt want to give Shuichi an empty apology for something that he feels like heās still doing right now.
If you pay attention to the way Kaito goes about his plan, you can see the signs of what itās really mostly about. The first thing is that itās not at all for the sake of saving himself: when he announces it to the group, he says, āIām going to get you guys out of here.ā Not āusā. Just āyou guysā. Kaito must know that his illness is almost certainly too far gone by now, and the time limit itās giving him is no longer for his chances of survival. Itās for his chance to finally make a difference and be the hero who saves everyone, because he canāt die like this ā he canāt die a failure.
Because the second thing about Kaitoās plan is that while of course he cares about saving everyone else, and he tries to present the plan like thatās what itās about, itās specifically about him being the one to save everyone else. He asks for everyoneās help in fighting Monokuma, but then insists on making all of the preparations himself, not accepting any kind of help at all in getting things ready or coming up with an actual strategy for the battle. If Kaito really, truly wanted the plan to have the maximum chance of success, heād have asked everyone to give their input on how to best fight Monokuma ā but he knows that would only result in Maki (and maybe also Shuichi) basically running the whole plan instead of him. If this werenāt chapter 5, if he hadnāt failed so utterly during the previous trial and been so desperate to prove himself, Kaito would have been fine with that and happy to let his sidekicks take the spotlight. But right now, heās desperate for it to seem like itās his plan, his actions that are making the difference.
The other kind of hero
See, Kaitoās concept of a āheroā kind of has two separate versions of it. On the one hand, thereās the type of hero that he is to his sidekicks: someone who supports and inspires them and helps them find the strength to overcome their weaknesses and reach their full potential. One of the things the word āluminaryā can mean is āsomeone who inspires or influences othersā. Thatās why Kaito calls himself the Luminary of the Stars! He absolutely deserves that title; he is so incredibly good at being that kind of hero, more so than anyone else (even if he is far too willing to sacrifice his own well-being for it). But that alone isnāt enough for him, especially not now heās shown such obvious weakness that surely Shuichi couldnāt possibly find him inspirational any more. Not when Shuichi has been the other kind of hero this whole time: the kind that takes action and Gets Shit Done. Both types of hero are capable of making a difference ā but the impact of the luminary kind is vague and nebulous, whereas the impact of a direct-action hero is indisputable. Kaito canāt be satisfied with just being a luminary now that heās doubting more than ever whether Shuichi even needed him to be one in the first place, all while Shuichi has undeniably saved everybodyās lives four times over.
Thatās not to say this is the first time Kaito has tried to be the action-oriented kind of hero instead of the luminary kind. During each of the previous cases, Kaito often tried to talk himself up as if heās good at investigating, not to mention directly trying to āhelpā with his off-base deductions as he grew more desperate to be useful in chapter 4, despite that he very much doesnāt have that detectiveās instinct and should know that his worth in investigations comes from simply being there to encourage Shuichi. And in chapter 1, before heād begun to make himself useful by supporting Shuichi (because Kaede already had that covered), Kaito spent the chapter constantly insisting that he was going to do something about the situation. He really wants to be this kind of action hero who can get stuff done and make an obvious, definitive difference. He talks big, saying heās going to do something when he doesnāt even have a plan yet, not simply as empty words to make himself look good but because he genuinely intends to follow up on those words and come up with a big plan thatāll save everyone.
Unfortunately for Kaito, while being a luminary is something that comes naturally to him, he is kind of terrible at taking direct action and having decent plans, however much he might hate to admit it. In a situation like this killing game, the sort of plans that work are complicated plans that require a lot of thinking outside the box and careful strategising ā and Kaitoās mind just doesnāt work that way. All of the plans he does come up with throughout the game ā his āstrategy meetingā in chapter 1, his attempt to break out of the hangar with a crossbow later in chapter 5, and especially his plan to fight Monokuma here in early chapter 5 ā all use the same basic idea of ājust fight the problem hard enough and weāll winā. Kaitoās mindset is way too straightforward, so the only plans he can think of are equally straightforward and therefore very unlikely to ever succeed. Yet he refuses to accept how bad he is at this and let someone else handle the planning, especially not now, when heās failed Shuichi and is desperate to make up for it and prove that he can be this kind of hero too. By doing this, heās just digging himself deeper into a hole of failure ā all that Kaitoās insistence on the plan being his plan really achieves is making it so much less likely to succeed than it would have been if heād accepted everyone elseās input.
How to really be a hero: the hard way
But just when theyāre about to start Kaitoās plan, Kokichi comes along and drops the Electrohammers on them and proposes they use those to get through the secret tunnel instead. Assuming heās not lying, itās a proper, well-thought-out plan, designed specifically to target the things standing in their way. Next to that, Kaitoās haphazard pile of weapons and complete lack of a strategy looks exactly like the pathetic, desperate mess that he always secretly knew it was. Itās a huge risk to trust Kokichi, but taking that risk is still far more likely to result in their escape than what Kaito was trying to do. So Kaito has to stand there and accept that if he truly cares about saving everyone and getting them out of here ā if he really wants to be even a little bit of a hero in the end ā then it doesnāt have to be his plan. Even if itās from someone like Kokichi, anyoneās plan will do so long as it works. It looks like it practically causes Kaito physical pain to decide to follow Kokichiās suggestion, but he does so all the same. Heās finally acknowledging his inadequacies and taking the road thatās most likely to save everyone anyway. If Kaito hadnāt been at rock bottom here thanks to everything that led up to this point, he might never have accepted this, but right now heās got nothing to lose.
This goes double for Kaitoās decision to participate in Kokichiās murder plot. Killing someone, even if itās someone whoās literally asking to be killed, goes against every fibre of Kaitoās being. While Kaitoās self-destructive levels of selflessness regarding his sidekicks mean heād have absolutely done so just to save Maki from being executed, he also makes it clear that thatās not the main reason and even if Maki hadnāt been in danger heād still have done the same. Again, itās about Kaito being desperate to make a difference no matter what, even if he has to make compromises like accepting his plans are terrible compared to Kokichiās, and trusting someone he hates that much, and becoming a murderer. If Kaito wants one last chance to help save everyone and finally be a hero before his time runs out, this is his only choice.
This is also despite the fact that Kaito knows the plan is extremely unlikely to actually succeed. His unshakeable faith in Shuichiās awesomeness makes him almost certain that Shuichi will be able to figure out the truth and unwittingly show Monokuma who the real culprit is in the end. Yet Kaito goes along with the plan anyway despite knowing that it only has a tiny chance of fooling Shuichi and succeeding ā because heād rather take a tiny chance than none at all. And even if the plan does fail to achieve what Kokichi wanted from it, even if it isnāt a perfect success that instantly ends the killing game, itāll still help everyone else at least a little by proving that Monokuma canāt break his own rules and is beholden to some kind of audience. Itāll give them hope that thereās other people out there, give Shuichi something to work towards figuring out. Itās not remotely the grand, flawless heroic victory like Kaito would have had in those games he played as a kid, or like heād been trying to insist he was capable of throughout most of this killing game ā but itās something, and thatās infinitely better than the utter failure he was terrified of dying as before Kokichi told him the plan.
And simply becoming a murderer isnāt the only way in which Kaito is willing to absolutely shatter his own convictions if it might help him save everyone. Lying to his friends by pretending to be Kokichi for the whole trial as well ā thatās such a big deal coming from Kaito. At one point during trial 4, Kaito denounces Kokichi for the way heās always putting on a mask and never showing his true face, which, since Kaito has been wearing a mask over his own insecurities for that whole chapter, could be seen as wildly hypocritical. But I really donāt think it is. Despite the lies Kaito does tell, one thing he hates the idea of lying about is the kind of person he is, and thatās what heās getting at here when he says ātrue faceā. Kaito is always someone who genuinely wants to help out everyone else, and he never lies about that. He may lie about how capable he is of actually doing so, or of how important helping everyone else is compared to how much help he really should be getting for himself, but he tells those lies precisely because of how badly he wants to be able to help. Kaito is always completely sincere about the true core of his nature and intentions and would never hide that behind a mask. Being true to himself like this is extremely important to Kaito, and thatās why Kokichi angers him so much for being the very opposite of that. Itās to the point that he outright says to Kokichi, āI donāt wanna survive if it means I have to stoop to your levelā. He would rather die than compromise these convictions of his and only keep surviving as someone who isnāt even able to be up-front about the things that really matter to him.
So Kaito being willing to hide his true intentions, to bite his tongue on how much he cares about Shuichi and Maki and hates seeing them suffer by thinking heās dead when he could fix that in a heartbeat, to act out Kokichi's manipulative insincerity and actually stoop to his level for the entirety of a trialā¦ Even though itās only temporary and he knows heāll get the chance to explain himself to everyone in the end, thatās still absolutely huge. If it were only for his own survival, Kaito would never go that far. But for a chance at helping to save everyone else? His only chance left to be a hero and prove himself next to Shuichi and not die a pointless, meaningless death? Heād do damn near anything.
A heroās story
Throughout my first time experiencing case 5, I was terrified of the possibility that Kaito was the one under that press, less because I didnāt want him to die than because I didnāt want him to have lost. I didnāt want Kaitoās story to ultimately be one of someone whoād tried so hard to be a hero but failed at every turn, culminating in his final pathetic failure at the hands of Kokichi here. The narrative had repeatedly done its best to make Kaito seem expendable, to highlight the way his recklessness is overzealous and idiotic and barely achieves anything next to Shuichiās careful logic, so it genuinely seemed like this bleak fate could have been how it all ended for him.
But itād be a crappy story if the hero lost so easily, just like itād be a crappy story if the hero won so easily. Turns out the out-universe writers knew exactly what they were doing, and all of this build-up ā all of Kaitoās weakness and failure and apparent inevitable loss ā only served to enhance the impact when he finally managed to win. I was absolutely elated when I realised for sure that Kaito was the one inside that Exisal, that he was not only still alive but still fighting, sacrificing absolutely everything in a last attempt to save everyone. It was still only a partial, bittersweet victory, but heād more than earned at least that much after everything heād done. Kaitoās real overall story turned out to be one of struggling and feeling helpless and facing failure and being forced to make compromises, but still never giving up and pushing through it to seize at least some kind of victory regardless. Whether Kaito realises it or not ā but I think he might have just about grasped this by the end ā thatās the kind of hero story thatās truly worth reading.
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my thoughts on ch 192-194
My 2 cents on the current arc in 19 days :) This is entirely my opinion and I do not speak for anyone,,Ā
Okay first of all, I do like how the story has been going so far. This arc is creating new opportunities for so much more development!!! e.g. backstories of jianyi and the he brothers and possibly mo (who knows, moās father could be connected to all of these), development between he and zhan, and ofc development between zhan and jian. OX is taking 19 days to a much deeper level now, instead of the usual zhanyi/tianshan hanging out and having their moments. The arc started off with jian being kidnapped by an old dude (claiming to be mr jianās old friend) which is then followed by jianyiās mom finding out and the short revelation of the relationship between jian and his mom. And then the recent chapter where jianyi is shown to have been trapped in an old warehouse with said old dude. (Itās all been pretty dramatic but thatās to be expected)
So yea, I too, like many others, believe that jian is being kidnapped for revenge (possibly trying to lure mr jian out)(how heās going to exact his revengeā¦..we donāt know yet) and looking at the past 3 chapters, am I satisfied with the way OX has played them out? Yes.
Chapter 192: Jianyi kidnapped!! This chapter provided a sort of base for the whole arc. In this chapter, before jian got kidnapped, there was the whole family thing again; jian was sad after seeing zhanās family and wished he had one. And from here, I believe the possible overarching theme for this arc would be jianās family.
Chapter 193: The reveal of Mrs Jian!! This chapter reinforces the theme of family (a continuation to jianyi saying āmum probably isnāt home yetā which I thought was a nice fit). So we find out that Mrs Jian isnāt the ice cold queen we all thought she was. We see that she cares tremendously for jian (she knows what she did to him and is remorseful) and is badaSS AF. Through this chapter, ox gives us hope that action is being taken to save jianyi. (And by his own family which is all the more heartwarming, donāt you think?) Again, a step into the revelation of jianās family.
Chapter 194: Jianyi trapped!! OK this chapter was a hell of a ride so let me just say what I think about this chapter. The chapter started out pretty light hearted (almost ironical seeing how its juxtaposed next to jianās dangerous situation - could this mean anything?) but I felt like it ended on a very serious note. OX basically injected comic relief into this chapter and I can honestly understand whyād she do that.
OK SO A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT HAPPENED: jian making jokes (the hetian thing) >> light hearted thoughts on jianās part (zhan xixi, coming after my beauty) >> TURNING POINT: jianyi realising his mum could be in danger (FAMILY!!!) >> jian trying to attack (failed) >> threat by old dude.Ā There were criticisms regarding this chapter, about how weird it is, having light hearted comedy in such a dire situation (almost seemed as if OX didnāt know what to do). However, there are a couple of reasons why I think comic relief was injected into this chapter.
1) the last two chapters were emotional and serious although 19 days is known to be more of a comedy. Maybe OX thought it was fitting to tone down on the seriousness and lighten the mood?Ā
2) jianyiās personality at play (by my fav!!! jianyi enthusiast @19daysruinedmylife: jianyi tries to act all happy and positive in bad situations BECAUSE HE LEARNED IT THAT WAY. Ever since young, he was often alone and thus, needed a way to cope with it, which is acting all happy. It's part of his childhood.) So yea it is an innate habit of jianyiās to laugh at a predicament first, instead of crying.Ā
3) assure the readers that jianyi is not in a particularly dangerous situation for now (his life is not threatened, heās p much just locked up)Ā
But of course, this light hearted comedy was only for the first half of the chapter. It got serious again after jianyi thought about his mom. Which brings me to my next point: jianyiās kidnapping is still a big deal, the comedy was just a temporary relief from it. The ending was far from lighthearted, even ominous tbh, serving as a reminder of jianyiās precarious situation. Is the old dude really planning to hurt jianyi? For now, I donāt think so. The act of pulling on the hem of jianyiās pants was just a threat, to induce fear in jianyi. The old dude could have physically attacked jianyi while he was bound or could even have brandished a weapon, but he merely pulled the hem of jianyiās pants (which is so much more harmless ngl).
so ya tldr: i am very satisfied with the arc rn and am vv excited to see more of what ox has in store for us :)) i am also looking forward to seeing tianshan being incorporated into this arc (would REALLY like to see mo and heās backstory tbh)
SORRY FOR RAMBLING
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