#rdr2 jamie

[notsofriendlyfriendlyreminder]

OK SO IMAGINE THIS.

Mary's father is a drunk. An awful drunk. Jamie is not enough to hold Mary home. Arthur, during their many fights, tells her "Well you always can run with us."

And in this universe she does.

And she changes, she hardens, she learns how to shoot a gun and how to properlylisten to Grimshaw. She drinks with Karen, plays dominoes with Tilly and reads with Mary-Beth.

She helps Sadie to get back on her feet.

She understands Molly.

Abigail cries on her shoulder when John leaves.

She and Arthur stay together and maybe, in the end, the love they share is stronger than everything that held Arthur with the gang.

Maybe they tail right after John and Abigail. Or maybe they go up north with the Wapiti. Maybe they went to Mexico. Maybe they got so lost no one ever found them again.

But on the other side is Jamie. Jamie, who lost the sight of the good for the world, who was the one to witness his father get drunk again and again, to sell everything that was left of not only his mother but also his sister.

Who left him.

They all left him, by death, by running away, by letting their soul be drowned in alcohol.

And it's not the cult that drags Jamie away, it's his own heart being abandoned, deciding it will never happen again.

How does a young boy survive in this day and age?

By learning how to shoot a gun.

How does young man make money?

By picking up job postings everywhere he can.

And how does a man commit revenge on his sister, who he loves dearly but who run away with a gang?

By becoming a bounty hunter.

[red-dead-simp]

[gameplaymen]

Red Dead Redemption 2 (2018) dev. Rockstar Games

[omgwhatchloe]

you know what’s kinda crazy to me? when those fans see mary, a woman genuinely in distress and begging for help, and decide to pin things on her like that she’s a manipulative devil woman who uses arthur. are you fucking serious? her brother has been taken from her and she cannot reach him, yet she is a master manipulator for doing anything she could to bring him back alive, including involving someone who ALSO liked jamie and wanted to see him alive.

like people seriously underestimate the situation from what i’ve seen. no shes not using arthur for entertainment or to hurt him, HER BROTHER HAS BEEN MANIPULATED INTO A CULT, SHE DOES NOT KNOW WHERE HE IS, HE IS BEING USED AND HE IS IN DANGER (the cult literally jump off a fucking cliff at one point) AND SHE IS TERRIFIED. wake the fuck up my goddd

[nthspecialll]

I am thinking about Arthur Morgan and the aboslute fear in his voice when telling Jamie to put the gun down. The slight crack of his voice as the pitch goes higher, you cannot tell me he isn't scared, and to be fair, who wouldn't be? He is watching the closest thing he has to a living son wave a gun uncontroably around, unable to handle it properly while saying he wants to kill himself. He has already lost so much, so many people that mattered so much to him, and now he is at the risk of loosing someone again.

[kammilu]

"Children love me"

pov: the first meeting of arthur and jamie was terrible.. the poor boy saw arthur after a week-long hunt… 😂😂

in my headcanon Arthur is a neat guy, but you can imagine what the wild nature is doing… and when you really want to see your loved one, you don’t care about cleanliness 💖😋

[arthurs-vaccine]

Shoutout to Jamie Gillis for being the #1 marthur shipper

"You know that Barry Linton's dead? 🤔 Pneumonia 😞💔 So the door's open so to speak 😏🤭"

[idfkuhhname]

Lowk had to share this shit took me out😭

[bronzedspring]

Chelonia and it's parallel to the Van der Linde's.

(ps. this is a hot take.)

On the surface, Chelonian's and the Van der Linde gang are two completely different contrasting ideologies: Chelonia is a religion that is a "menace to all (our) liberty" because it goes against the usual Christianity and "Dutch's Boys" are "infamous killers". That's all in the headlines, the papers, the view most of society will interpretate these groups like.

They recruit people almost identically. Actively recruiting the young and feeble men and feeding mush into their brains to devotion. Your trust is in this formation and you'll die for this formation happily as it's expected of you. The greater of the two "evils", because turning your back against the pact is turning your back against freedom. Or, so is believed.

Both Helgerson and Dutch also preach similar ideologies.

Anders Helgerson is the messiah to Chelonia. He idolises the belief that this wisdom of the cult and the master will shine the dark out of mans heart, only if you listen in to this and this alone. That there is a land there for them, Chelonia, that you will only reach if you have faith.

Dutch is no different come to the games events. He preaches Evelyn Millers words, writes his own speeches he has no doubted-ly preached time and time again, always insisting on the same faith that's kept them stringed together. He also says that there's a land out there for them, Tahiti.

Jamie and Arthur are also a nice parallel to note too. Buried so head deep into this life that begun as being so open to these profound beliefs probably unimaginably good to prior lifestyles. Any outside "threat" attempting to convince them otherwise has them instinctively defending this belief, an unreliable narrative, but when they come face-to-face with the reality of their situations (i.e.: Dutch's revenge plan on Bronte contrasting "revenge is a fools game" & The initial shock Jamie goes through after pointing a gun at himself) doubt seeps through. This fog of false clarity they've both been under begins to dim.

I'll talk about their parallels at a later time, but it really outstands me how they both yearn for the same things. A better future. Mary, too.

[werewolfarthurmorganenjoyer]

Marthur is like Odysseus and Penelope if Odysseus never came home, in this essay I will

[purgatorygrl]

Parallels between Jamie and Arthur

The relationship between what happened to Jamie with The Chelonia cult and Arthur's situation with the band seems to me to be quite similar.

Jamie came from a family that was quite dysfunctional, his mother had died and his father treated him badly and constantly despised him, so he needed to find a place where he was validated and felt accepted. To do this, he joined The Chelonia cult, where they told him what to think, what to say, what to do, and they took his money for the supposed "donations." Jamie knew that they were manipulating him and that everything about the cult was a lie, but he still stayed there because it was the only place where he felt accepted and where people treated him well.

Like Jamie, Arthur did not have a structured family and was alone since he was little until Dutch and Hosea adopted him and he began to be part of the band. Dutch made sure that Arthur had the same ideals as him and at all times he told him how to do things and what was the correct way to think and act. Arthur had his own way of seeing things and he didn't always agree with what Dutch said and did but he always gave in and in the end he ended up doing what Dutch wanted even though it wasn't what he wanted, partly because of Dutch's manipulation and the need for validation and because he felt like he owed him his life. He always saw Dutch deteriorating more and more but he never left the band, first because it wasn't that easy but mostly because it was the only family he had and the only people who had accepted him and that was the only life he knew.

"They're using you, they're telling you what you want to hear" In the end, Dutch used emotional manipulation to control people, especially Arthur, spontaneously giving him validation and calling him son so that in the end he would do the things Dutch wanted.

I love how Jamie asks him "and what do you know about that, Arthur?" I would say quite a bit, taking into account the dynamics of the Van der Linde gang and Arthur's relationship with Dutch.

[spiders-gorge]

the irony of arthur giving jamie gillis shit for donating money to the chelonians

[stillnotyourmusebitch]

Okay so I've been playing Evil West. Set in western times with Vampires.

So now I'm thinking about RDR2 and Arthur Morgan whooping vampire booty.

[chic-beyond-the-wall-oc-acct]

All my OC playlists so my navigation post is less crowded ❤️‍🩹

Most of these don't have tags with "oc:" or this is the first time I've used it for them so if you want to see them you'll have to search them in my profile 😭

House of the Dragon:

Lacie Warmen💙💛🤍

Erron Warmen🗡️🫐

Game of Thrones:

Abigail Lannister ❤️🖤

Abigail x Victyr ❤️♠️

Royona Clegane 💛

Flower Darling 🐺

Odile Swann 🦢

Efina Swyft 💙

Sirry Crakehall 🤎

Eragon Hill 🎶

Osferth Hill ⚔️

A Song of Ice and Fire:

Daeny Targaryen 🎂💖

Oscar Waters 🃏

Dune:

Evanora Atreides💜🌌

Evanora outside perspective ♠️🖤

Baldur's Gate 3:

Laverna 💔 (also technically Lacie's ancestor so crossover?)

Tav: Abbie 🍂

Durge: Poppy 🌑🔪

Durge: Lace 🩵🩷

Anastasia:

Avigeya 🌨️ 🎨

Blue Eye Samurai:

Hana Elizabeth Fowler🪻🪷

The Last of Us:

Jamie 💉🍄

Red Dead Redemption:

Morgana Eisheth Tomba🪦⚰️

Epic: The Musical:

Atomos 👁️🌷

Cyberpunk 2077:

Mammon Quartus 👾🪙

The Legend of Korra:

Lea🍃🐦‍⬛

Arcane:

Valena Vandabaum-Swain 🌌

Valena + Mel 🩷💛

Valena x Vi 🩷💝

Valena + Jayce ⭐ 🔨

Valena x Sevika 🍸

Valena + Viktor 🧪

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[nthspecialll]

Arthur's first chance at fatherhood

Jamie and Arthur's relationship means so much to me because even though Arthur is not his father, he still was more of a father than his actual father in many ways and Jamie was most likely also Arthur's first chance at fatherhood.

Mary and Arthur met when they were teens, and when they dated it was pretty clear that Arthur took a fondness to Jamie and took the time not only to be around Mary but also to teach Jamie to ride and who knows what else. This could not have been an easy thing seeing as they would have had to meet someplace where Jamie and Mary's actual father would not find them.

The mission with Jamie will never not be one of my favorites because it shows just how fond Arthur is of him. Not only does he say that Mary should let the boy live his life as he pleases and not how he is meant to but also because of the absolute fright you can see in Arthur's eyes when Jamie threatens to kill himself. He is once again seeing "his son" balance the fine line of life and death.

Also in a time when suicide was seen as a sin, Arthur handles it really well, he doesn't taunt Jamie or talk down to him or anything similar, he treats Jamie kindly and you can also immediately hear the change in music to one of the most calm and comfortable that there is to be found in the entire game.

The two's whole dynamic is also so special to me because you can really feel the dynamic between them, how peaceful and natural it is. I personally often feel with a lot of other smaller characters that Arthur takes a backseat in the conversations and only answers shortly and often quite minimally, but with Jamie he talks a lot, offers advice and tries to help Jamie find out what he wants.