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thatbirdrestaurant · 1 year ago
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I love Fairy Tail but I will never forgive it for throwing Ivan away so easily. He was a character with so much build up and literally no pay off. A couple of episodes where some of his goons beat up Fairy Tail members, mention the Lumen Histoire, and then he gets defeated and never returns? Barely - if not ever - mentioned again? Like, what?
Ivan Dreyar and Raven Tail should have gotten their own arc. The Grand Magic Games would have been their introduction, keep Laxus defeating them, but have them escape right before they can be arrested. This way, when the Raven Tail arc starts, the members are established and we know what Ivan is after.
An arc like this also could have answered some questions that are never addressed in the show: who was Makarov's wife/Ivan's mother? Who was/is Laxus' mother? What was Ivan and Laxus' relationship before he left?
I need answers, Mashima, I need them.
(yes, I also wanted a Raven Tail arc because that would have meant more Laxus screen-time, but that is besides the point).
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moltensmusings · 4 months ago
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It always felt like such a waste introducing raventail in this arc and then never seeing them again - they should have had their own arc!
1000% agree. Part of what doesn't work about them in grand magic games is we have no basis for how strong they are to begin with so this idea of them being defeated by Laxus really holds no weight at all. Even beyond that how they got utilized in the GMG was such a waste, I know Mashima wants to portray Ivan as pathetic but in the end it results in me not caring that Laxus defeats him and not even feeling like they were actually family ever to begin with.
I've said before we really needed more arcs pre timeskip just to pad things out a bit because the S-class exam happens way too early into the series. I think Raven tail happening right before the time skip and maybe even being an arc that leaves fans feeling angry and unfulfilled with Raven tail escaping in the end, would set up fantastically for their take down in GMG.
"But laxus wouldn't be there" we focus on Makarov and Ivan during the arc. We focus on the older members of fairy tail who would've been around when Ivan was part of it and how they react to seeing him again. Wakaba, Macao, Gildarts potentially (Several others in my rewrite would also be around his age.).
Part of what I don't like about Laxus beating Raven tail alone as well is it really just proves what his father did to him was correct. We get told Ivan implanted a lacrima in Laxus as a child and it's outright said to be horrible and monstrous. Yet Mashima then shows that Laxus has worth because "actually he's so strong he can beat his dad now". The better way to handle it would be Laxus learning the strength of relying on others and how he's more than just his physical strength. We could've had Makarov and Laxus potentially tag team taking down Ivan and it would've been far more emotional and fulfilling to me.
Raven tail is built up pretimeskip with Makarov sending Gajeel in to gather information and the culmination of that is so anticlimactic and infuriating. They get so wasted.
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fairydares · 2 years ago
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Fairy Tail missed a big opportunity not going into Ivan Dreyar/Raven Tails' inception. The whole thing was weird and created a lot of questions begging to be answered. From Ivan's strange Magic type, to how he and Makarov fell out SO BADLY that Makarov barely entertained the knowledge he existed at all, to whatever happened between him and Laxus, to the fact that Ivan didn't bother Fairy Tail during the seven years most of the guild members (including Makarov and Laxus) were stuck on Tenrou, to the fact that Ravens Tail was (according to Juvia in episode 52) the only completely independent Dark guild on the comprehensive chart of known dark guilds drawn by Reedus. This is one mysterious part of the story I always wished had been made at least a bit clearer.
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Honestly, having been rewatching the early episodes now, I'm a little annoyed how little what we learned about Ivan and what was going on with him and how horrible his actual debut truly was.
Fantasia set up that Ivan was exiled for an unknown reason (something which is still unknown since Makarov didn't know Ivan knew about Lumen histoire until Laxus asked about it so it wasn't that), that he had some interest in Laxus although again never specified what for or why, that he was the one to give Laxus his lacrima and that Gajeel was working as a double, double agent for him.
Then we learn through a flashback during GMG (I think. I might be remembering when wrong) of Laxus asking Makarov about what he was doing with Ivan and learning that he didn't attack Fairy tail over the 7 years. Something which we do know the reason for, that being no one remaining would have known the information he wanted.
Now I'm not saying that Makarov or Laxus need to info dumb about their pasts or something. It would be quite OOC for either of them unless it was an episode/chapter focused on say Laxus and the thunder legion, you know, the group he is the closest with.
Better ways of dropping small hints would be, even just taking canon events, have Makarov think about things when he's beaten by Hades. Think about how not only did one of his potential father figures turn down the dark path but his son and almost his grandson did too and have him think about what he could have done for that to happen.
Stories can have unreliable narrators. Not everyone is going to see things through the same lens as you do. Makarov thinking he was a good father and grandfather could make sense if perhaps he wasn't entirely aware of what was going on behind the scenes.
If, like I have mentioned before, Ivan grew resentful of Makarov and Fairy tail because it took away his father's attention which started out as Ivan acting out for that attention but it didn't work and got worse then its possible Makarov may not have noticed his son was feeling neglected. And I will stand by my belief that Ivan was an abusive father to Laxus. Maybe not physically but definitely mentally. And its possible that he said something to Laxus for him to be too afraid to take to Makarov about what was going on.
Fairy tail has a mix of villains who you can understand why they might have fallen down the path they did(the seiz with bad guidance, Lyon with becoming obsessed with his goal, Gajeel being raised in a guild that practically praised him for his violenece) while others where they just are evil because (Brain/Zero, Mard Geer and the rest of Tartarous, Erigor) I personally believe Ivan could have been the former. Give more context to it. Sometimes, children who aren't treated correctly by their parents fall into the wrong crowd, that could have happened with Ivan.
And again, his debut and build up in GMG was not good. His whole reason for joining the games was to get at Fairy tail and possibly get to Laxus specifically. So why was it only targeted on the first day. Third I get since there was no way to attack each other although they could have tried to trip up Cana or sneakly hurt Erza or Cana while they stood around.
But there isn't an excuse for day 2. Natsu and Gajeel could barely move. Wouldn't it make sense for RT to go after them while they were down?
And why not attack Juvia as well as Gray? Both are from FT.
And the fact that Gajeel being a double agent is brought up once with Laxus just mentioning that was how they got the info and Ivan being angry about it. Why not bring it full circle to have Ivan order Gajeel to work at sabotaging FT and aiding RT. Maybe even make him attack his own guild members during the night. Gajeel would likely refuse to do this since he at this point cares about FT so Ivan proceeds to threaten one of the members he's close with. It could be Lily or Levy, maybe Juvia or any other member he has an attachment or relationship with (Like how I see him being close with Mira and Wendy) Which forces his hand and makes it a case where the members are sceptical and think Gajeel is falling back into his old ways and betraying the guild.
So then when its the fight with Laxus and Ivan reveals some info to Laxus since he thinks he'll be on his side, it gets Laxus angry that Ivan would be willing to harm any of his guild and breaks what little hope he had for his dad.
Plus, it could lead to a little more chaos if Ivan is questioned by the council because he could try to put the blame on Gajeel and cite his sudden behaviour change. The council bring Gajeel in for questioning and then you could have a moment where Laxus reveals Gajeel was never wanting to hurt the guild and that he was being threatened into doing what he was doing and Makarov reveals Gajeel was a double agent the entire time.
The consequences can vary. It could be Gajeel is arrested because its a 4 to 5 vs 1 and its canon Gajeel has been in legal trouble before or he could be let go with a slap on the wrist and a warning to the FT guild where it could come back up later. (Maybe in a Gajeel centric arc perhaps something similar to the Rhodinite manga)
Or have Ivan cause harm to Gajeel now that he knows he was a double agent, attacking Gajeel and causing him to have a permanent injury. A branding, missing limb, damaged eye. Something other than a basic scar that isn't that noticeable to put out permanent consequences.
What can I say, I just love putting Gajeel in angsty situations.
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topokky11 · 28 days ago
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300123 Haikyuu fanart x Fairy Tail fanart
Tendou as older brother and Flare as younger sister at Shiratorizawa
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going-to-superhell · 2 years ago
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flare 100% has a crush on lucy
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kursed-arcana · 2 years ago
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fineline-feline · 2 years ago
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More Fairy Tail shenanigans lol
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pbear · 1 year ago
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cozylittleartblog · 1 year ago
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what if there was a plague doctor that was so so so cute (and was also secretly a bird themself)
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ageha-sds · 1 year ago
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was on break and did a bunch of AC6 renders for myself. this is truly self care
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ravensvalley · 8 months ago
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#ShortTailedWeasel
Ermine, Stoat or Short-tailed Weasel (Mustela erminea) in its winter coat...
She's the one who has been having fun stealing Jack's (The Raven) meat, for a long time. I've been trying to capture her for about 3 years on my camera and finaly succeeded last Thurday during the snow storm when power was down.
I'm very proud… she's an adorable one.
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kazoo-the-demjin · 5 months ago
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thinking about how neil knew andrew was the one who went through his stuff but neil nobody-should-know-i-speak-multiple-languages josten still shouted at kevin in french on keeping his dog under control and then is incredulous how andrew even thought of him being an evermore mole
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gomzdrawfr · 2 months ago
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when in doubt, shiny au
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chaotictoon · 1 month ago
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Book Magic
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flippinegg · 1 year ago
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havent used this website in a bit anyways here are some more binding of isaac co op babies i made for fun and also a mod. once again im sorry for all the tags teehee. anyways back to being inactive bye!!!!!!
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