#queen undyne ending

[wonderfull-star]

I noticed a rather interesting detail in Horrortale comic.

When the comic first started, some of the characters looked a “little” different. And no, it’s not just about the art style, I think.

Papyrus

Big difference, don't you think? Previously, Papyrus was portrayed as simply out of his mind dummy under the guise of a terrifying monster. Later, he began to be portrayed as much more sane and now he looks and behaves far from being “just a dummy”. What if this is how Aliza saw him? And Papyrus looked much more scarier because she didn't trust him and was afraid of him(well it's clear why).

Sans

Everything is more complicated with him. Since in Aliza’s vision Sans was no longer changing externally, but internally. I mean, unlike Papyrus, Aliza saw him as he “really” is (that is, the same way other monsters and his brother see him). But with the exception of his behavior. Flowey warned Aliza not to get too close to him, which she did. Of course, over time, she still managed to get to know him a little better. And if earlier she portrayed him as a crazy maniac from whom you should stay away, now she sees him as just as terribly hungry as the others, who can no longer restrain himself and secretly wants this madness to end. She understands him and therefore in the last parts of the comics she tried to help him and the rest of the monsters.

Drunk Bunny

Probably the only one who has changed more than the others and, moreover, in reality and not in Aliza’s vision. If you look closely, before both of her eyes were “drunk”. Now one eye has become normal, meaning that she has begun to look at everything that is happening “more soberly.” Which is not surprising, after all, after Aliza stood up for the monsters from Snowdin, hope arose in her again..

Politics Bear

It seems that he just became happier (in reality). In Aliza's vision, she imagined him as the same monster mad with hunger as the others. Previously, in her vision, his teeth were more crooked and his gaze was distraught. Now Aliza sees him even more “bright” than he really is (well, his teeth can’t be that straight?). The bear is happy now. It seems hope has arisen in his soul again..

Aliza really is quite a unique person. In fact, she has a surprising amount of determination. Even when she dies or is in the most hopeless situation at first glance, she always finds a way out. Now I'm really interested in what will happen next. Still, she had enough bravery and kindness to stand up for ALL the monsters in Snowdin, even despite the fact that many of them tried to cook her alive. Aliza is truly have very strong soul. I think that many other people would have fled Snowdin long ago in her place. I think that one of Aliza's goals is to make the monsters regain hope and at least some sanity. Simply put, at least somehow try to establish relationships with them and maybe even make friends. She was able to gain trust from the monsters at Snowdin and it looks like now it’s time for her to go to Waterfall.. And this will DEFINITELY not be easy. Considering WHO might live there.

Now I'm wondering if we'll ever see Gaster in Horrortale comic. 🤔

[chacochilla]

Credits:

@KComputrix for the mech and Alphys sprites

@SqueletonS1350 for the death sprites

@bacon_knight222 for the sprite of Sans

@BronznTelscopes for the sprite of Doge

[joybeantown]

Drew jellyfish dizzy for a art trade with a friend! I really like her design wish it was used more

[ann-beth]

I need to ask, this is a question that pops up in my head every few months but not properly in words; (also I came into this fandom pretty late, the au's were already established - I should remember, my first UT fanfic i read was "Hand in Hand" and that was UTMV jumping lol)

If the Genocide (megalovania) fight wasn't a thing, if our punny boyo couldn't go super saiyan on us, who wouldve been the character we'd be this obsessed with? (Let's be real atleast half the au's I've seen are a direct nod to this fight)

[eldragon-x]

I need to replay Undertale. for Alphys and Mettaton.

[carlyraejepsans]

You know how toriel recognizes Papyrus in the pacifist ending because of how often sans talks about him? In the neutral exiled queen ending where sans goes to live with her and papyrus has been killed, do you think she would put two and two together eventually? Sans would never tell her, but I think she'd realize why he doesn't tslk about his brother anymore :( also parallel between sans telling Papyrus everyone's on vacation and sans keeping it a secret from toriel that you killed Papyrus keeps me up at night.

i think sans' best bet in that scenario would be to lie by omission. he's told her a lot about his brother while they were door pals, so she must also know about his aspirations for the royal guard. if he plays his cards right he can sort of imply that papyrus got swept up in undyne's expansion of the Guard. maybe he pretends to leave to visit snowdin sometimes, or maybe he doesn't pretend (he just hangs out at the forest's perimeter by himself. i don't think he ever talks to anyone from the town again in this ending) in order to keep up the misunderstanding.

i don't know how long they'd last like that. not if toriel leaves for the librarby one day to give back some books and take out some others. not if she runs into undyne all the while.

after that?

...oh boy.

[selkiemoonssss]

Undertales' neutral routes are so interesting to me- and SO underrated. EXILED QUEEN ENDING- Is SO tragic. Papyrus is dead, and sans is stuck grieving for him. He literally goes into exile alongside a woman he's never even seen face to face before all of this happened- she's been grieving for so long, and Sans is knew too it, but he doesn't want to tell her about it because... he doesn't want to break her heart by telling her that her promise inadvertently led to his brothers passing??? She's be suspicious though because.. well yk?! He's most likely talked about his brother alot and so she'd have a feeling SOMETHING must have happened- and she'd know that some monsters have died so?!?! yk?!?! Theres so much potential and i'm currently working on a fanfiction about them And then theres the queen alphys ending??? the whole new side we get to see of her (also the rare sans and alphys friendship content..) Sans hates you SO MUCH that he legitimately doesn't even call you?? he just gives the phone too alphys?? you've killed so many people that- ughjsfknsnshbjshdb Then theres the leaderless endings.. like. I actually believe this ending is worse than the genocide one, hands down. Like, in the genocide ending, the world is at least erased, right?? But in this ending, monsters are left completely hopeless, without any hope for the future going on. Toriel is dead, Papyrus is dead, Alphys is (most likely) dead, Undyne is dead, Asgore is dead; and the souls are gone. Theres the ominous lack of music????? its just wind??? its dreadful. Augh don't even get me started on how dreadful the king papyrus ending is, or how dystopian the MTT king ending is.. The neutrals endings are SO heartbreaking and there should absolutely be more focus on them because the angst potential is unsane

[milkivikk]

it me burfdei today, so here are some more UT sketches :v

(that one exiled queen neutral ending where Sans and Paps go live with Toriel):

(colored lineart of underswap skelebros :^), might color idk):

(undyne and paps bonding must be talked abt more/also a neutral ending):

(random kek foe me :V 🎉):

tysm goatmom

[signanothername]

Weird question but I’m just curious

If you could add any character- doesn’t have to be a sans, into the bad sans’s who would you add?

this isn’t really about if it would work with your take on nm but more what character would you find the most interesting to have in that situation

Ngl can’t choose one single character so imma give a few dhhdhdhdhhd

Horror!Undyne, fell Papyrus, Geno, Fatal Error, or Color

Having H!Undyne in the same work space as Horror would be a bit fun I think, they hate each other with a passion, but I think that this might be an experience that they both see eye to eye to, definitely will not make them like each other, but their relationship might develop into something a tiny bit better (either that or become even worse than it already is), it will definitely a humbling experience for Undyne tho, can’t be a queen under the king

Fell Papyrus is still Papyrus at his core despite his edgier look, I think it’ll be fun to see his relationship with MTT, and how it might develop, whether for better or worse, and whether MTT be willing to take a punch or two for him or vice versa, and how he might handle Nightmare considering he’s already in the royal guard

Geno to me is someone who’s pretty much done with life, i don’t think Nightmare would be intimidating to him, regardless of how powerful he is or his otherworldly abilities, or his emotional and mental manipulation, Nightmare cannot break what’s already broken, and he sure as hell will never change Geno’s moral views, it would be fun to see Geno be at odds with Nightmare, and how he might view MTT

Fatal, a highly unstable error with one goal in mind, so the question of how he might take his kidnapping by Nightmare is an interesting one, obviously badly, but how badly? How will he react to his mission being interrupted and even taken away from him? What does an error do when their one purpose is out of reach? What will he do to MTT, considering the fact two of them killed their brothers themselves and one fed human meat to his own? I don’t think Fatal would like any of them at all, and he sure is not going to like Nightmare

Color obviously isn’t fond of hurting people, and that in of itself might cause problems, but I think Color’s existence might end in him getting under Nightmare’s nonexistent skin as time goes on, Color isn’t afraid of speaking his mind and he will call Nightmare’s bullshit out, go out of his way to help MTT where he can, and has enough patience to outlast Nightmare’s games

[ppndos]

Why Papyrus is even in Undertale

And no, I'm not saying that he's not important. In fact, he's one of the most important plot devices. But why Papyrus ?

List of stuff Papyrus did for the plot :

Helped Frisk befriend Undyne

Gathered everyone in the Pacifist ending

Worldbuilding (phonecalls)

Characters' personalisation (phonecalls)

Told Frisk to go to the True Lab (phonecalls)

Basically the reason we were able to get the Pacifist ending

Quite a lot, but it all could be easily done by the others.

Befriending Undyne? Alphys. Being manipulated by Flowey? Monster kid. Info dumping on the phone? Sans.

Even among the main characters he seems a bit off.

Toriel is the caretaker of the ruins and former queen. Sans is the royal judge. Undyne is the capitan of the royal guard. Alphys is the royal scientist. Mettaton is the biggest star of the underground. Asgore is the king. Asriel (flowey) is the prince.

And Papyrus is… just some guy.

He could easily be a secondary character like Napstablook. Especially considering his lack of backstory, no character development and a skippable battle in which you can't even die.

But instead he has the biggest amount of words in the game, huge impact on the characters in all of the endings, very detaled hangout/date and a PERSONAL Q&A (also the entire Underale Q&A was centered around him).

What about Deltarune

Papyrus didn't show up in DR yet, but I can feel with my GUTS that he'll be important.

We all know that DR was in Toby's brain even before Undertale, and also we know that Bonetrousle was meant for DR.

Based on some theories about ch3, we can assume that the characters from UT actually might play some big roles in DR.

So… you can tell what I'm trying to say here, right? What if the reason why Papyrus is so important in the game AND in a lot of additional stuff is because he's going to play some role in DR and even have a character arc or be shown from unusual side.

And this “busy” is hunting me 24/7. Too suspicious.

[dessbian]

My underrune au!

“In an attempt to help their mother reclaim her throne, the next fallen human, Kris, embarks on a journey beyond the ruins to find the new monster queen.”

Essentially, this takes place after the leaderless exiled queen ending, with a twist!

The twist is that Mrs. Holiday led the rebellion against Toriel, and became the new queen. Because Undynes dead here, she put Dess in charge of the royal guard.

During Snowdin you travel with Dess and Noelle until Dess becomes an antagonist. During waterfall you travel with Suzy/Susie. During hotland you fight & befriend Berdly, but I haven’t designed him yet…

The first is some sprites for design changes, the second is Kris in Home in the ruins, and the third & forth is Dess & Kris meeting for the first time.

[kriscommitscrimes]

IN-DEPTH CHARACTER ANALYSIS OF KRIS(MAS) DREEMURR

Hello! I've wanted to make this post for a WHILE now, since Kris is my favourite character ever, and I LOVE analyzing characters!!

Anyway before I start just remember that people consume media differently, and this is just what I've personally picked up on. You may interpret certain points I make differently to me, and that's ok! I'm just sharing MY analysis of Kris, at the end of the day, they're a character who has never spoken any dialogue that's visible to us, so their intentions behind certain things could be interpreted differently depending on who's consuming the media.

Kris will be EXCLUSIVELY referred to by they/them (they/them/themself specifically) pronouns throughout this post. If you refer to them as anything other than they/them while interacting with this post I'm gonna block you on the spot sorry.

ANALYSIS BELOW THE CUT BECAUSE IT'S LONG!!! TW there's probably some swearing I can't remember

By the way, I'm not including any screenshots because I. forgot to take them last time I played through Deltarune, but the next time that I do, I'm going to make like a revamped version of this post with screenshots. Sorry about that!!

Kris is their own, separate character from the player. This is a no-brainer if you've actually played through Deltarune and paid the slightest bit of attention to it. Kris is their own, separate character with a VERY distinct, interesting personality, who had a life before the events of Deltarune, and even still has control over some things that they say and do while in our control.

Kris isn't actually a quiet person. Kris, in reality, is an overdramatic, sassy, talkative person who often draws attention to themself by scaring people (especially Noelle), and causing scenes. They CONSTANTLY play mean spirited pranks on Noelle or pressure her into things (I'm NOT talking about Snowgrave, I'll get to thar later), like shaking the ferris wheel carriage despite Noelle being scared of heights, and telling her that ICE-E is real and eats kids. They still do this during the events for Deltarune, like if you go against Noelle's wishes and pet the cheese, Kris strokes it like a cat, and if you give Noelle a healing item called a Choco Diamond, she says something along the lines of 'Umm, it's ok, Kris, I'll share', and both of them get healed. We don't choose for Kris to force Noelle to share, that's a decision they make. As for drawing attention to themself, the first thing that comes to mind is they falling to the ground and sulking when they're too short and weak to play Queen's arcade machine, or them barking at Noelle when she offers them a dog treat. They're loud and impulsive, shown when they eat the pie at the end of chapter one, repeatedly kicking the robot in the basement when nothing happens originally before the Sneo fight, eating all of the chocolate Undyne gives them to give to Alphys if you interact with the box, and screaming that they're normal if you call Toriel after watching her conversation with Alphys at the start of chapter two. Speaking of which...

Kris seems to have identity issues. This is one of the things here that everyone in the fandom is kind of already aware of, but this is a full character analysis, so it's still important to mention. Kris is the only human in Hometown, but desperately wants to be perceived as normal. They scream it at Toriel like I mentioned earlier, they wore a headband with red horns on it when they were little to look more like a boss monster, and they seem actively disgusting or even frightened by other humans. They also seem to be living in their brother's shadow a bit, which may be why they like drawing attention to themself. Everything I've said about their personality seems to be a little on the negative side so far, but everyone in Hometown knows their name, and seems to quite like them, so why is this? Well...

Kris is charming, well-spoken, and funny. They're a prankster known for pulling mean-spirited pranks on people, but even still characters like Noelle look back at those things fondly, and everyone in Hometown seems to like spending time with Kris. Kris' flirting abilities are pretty obvious, and are used to win over loads of Darkners, not to mention their ability to formulate a compelling speech on the spot, as shown during the first Queen battle when toasting to her. They easily win people over, especially if they like a person, I mean, they became best friends with their former bully in a DAY! A DAY!!! People seem to find them just genuinely fun to hang around, probably due to them just being a funny, charming, somewhat balls of the walls kinda person.

Kris is NOT evil or malicious. This is one of the most important points I've wanted to make on this post. I've seen the theory that Kris is evil because they don't actively do anything to prevent Snowgrave from happening tossed around and I'm here to say that that is actually fucking stupid sorry. Normally I HATE being mean about people's theories because, like I said, everyone consumes media differently, but that one is just genuinely terrible. I'd say it's WAY more likely that as Noelle gets strong, out control over Kris becomes stronger. Normally, when we choose an option to make Kris say or do something, they ELABORATE on that, which is confirmed by how characters interact with them. We just can't see them speaking to give the illusion that they're a blank slate, under our full control. But, during Snowgrave, they just say EXACTLY what you tell them to say. If you tell them to say 'We're something else', they just say 'We're something else'. If you tell them to say 'Proceed', they just say 'Proceed'. Sure, you could put this towards them not caring, but after Berdly is frozen and you reunite with Ralsei and Susie, both of them say that Kris looks HURT. And later on, they REFUSE to go and see Noelle in her room. The refuse to THINK about it. They're not happy with what happened. They didn't want to go around freezing people. But the one thing that Really stood out to me, was during the Snowgrave Spamton Neo fight. Near the end, you have the option to call Ralsei and Susie for help, which prompts the flavour text; 'Kris called for Susie and Ralsei... But nobody came'. After that, you have to call Noelle for help to finish the battle, which prompts the dialogue; 'You called for Noelle'. Spamton states that Kris could barely whisper her name. They're trying to stop you from calling for her. Those aren't their words. I think that kind of confirms that they didn't want Snowgrave to happen. Kris is just a funny teenager with identity issues, they're not evil. Sorry evil Kris fans.

Kris probably isn't the Roaring Knight. They're A knight, but not THE knight. So far, they don't REALLY have any motivation for opening the first two fountains that I'm aware of, and I doubt they knew they could open a fountain until Queen's speech at the end of Chapter 2. At the end of Chapter 2, however, they do seem to have a motivation to open a fountain. They (presumably) slash Toriel's tyres to stop her from leaving the house to go and get flour. They want her to see the Dark World. And if you choose the option to talk to Undyne about the Dark World, Kris explains it to her in FULL DETAIL, but she brushes it off as a joke. Toriel finding her tyres slashed leads her to call the guards, and Kris leaves the door of the house wide open. They want Undyne to see the Dark World, I don't know WHY, but they do for some reason. But I REALLY doubt they're the Roaring Knight, they just don't have the motivation, and if it is them, it would be really weird for Toby to reveal that so early. I really doubt that kid wants to bring on the end of the world.

That's all I have for now!! Expect a more fleshed out version of this next time I play Deltarune with screenshots and such, though I may wait until chapter 3 and 4 come out! Thanks for reading!

[itsmebeff]

Agrotale introduction thread and summary!!

Agrotale is an AU based on the Queen Alphys neutral ending from Undertale where- as inferred by the title- Alphys becomes Queen. To get this ending you need to abandon a regular No Mercy route in Hotland, leaving Toriel, Papyrus, Undyne, Mettaton, and Asgore dead. Sans and Alphys are the only main characters who remain. The name comes from the idea that the main human is a gardener, and they help with agriculture after the CORE malfunctions!!

sprites so far!!

Each character encountered in each area:

Everett, the fallen human, falls into the ruins and is met by Muffet, who acts as their guide. Muffet was banished to the ruins after her actions during the previous humans rampage led to countless more deaths, as well as the fact that she threatened to cannabalize the Queen on multiple occasions. Sans is also first encountered in the ruins, but he just gives Everett a warning for what's to come.

After leaving the ruins, Everett is greeted by Dess and her sister Noelle, who are unaware that Everett is a human. They also later meet Carol Holiday, their mother. Carol is the Royal Advisor for Alphys in this world. Muffet is seen in Snowdin in a disguise after sneaking out of the ruins. Other notable characters like Grillby and Sans (again) are encountered here as well. Snowdin is much more crowded and large due to the influx of people moving in from the capital, which serves as a juxtaposition to the empty and discarded Ruins that came just before it.

Once entering Waterfall, Everett is stopped by Monster Teen, a Royal Guard member, who was given orders to carefully escort Everett to the CORE. They fail after their nerves get to them, and Everett continues on. Everett finds out that Dess is the head of the Royal Guard after Dess was given false orders by Monster Teen to fight Everett, but she refuses and joins their party. They eventually end up by the trash dump where they encounter Mad Mew Mew, who was killed by the previous human and brought herself back to life out of spite. Other notable characters met in Waterfall are Napstablook and Gerson.

In Hotland, Catti and Jockington appear to attempt to capture Everett to impress Alphys, who wasn't paying attention at all. Jockington is a member of the Royal Guard, however Catti is not. She just follows him around everywhere. Everett escapes and takes the elevator to a new town that was built in Hotland, and this is where Catty and Bratty now live.

The CORE: First Queen Alphys encounter, final Sans encounter.

Last Corridor: The Final Choice

And that's it for now!! :P there will be more to come eventually..

[haveyouseenthisskeleton]

You know how all skeletons technically have a tailbone? What if skeleton's toddler just randomly grab it while his dad is talking with someone?

Undertale Sans - He's chill, simply squirming to get the kid to let go. The tailbone is actually very sensitive for skeletons and he would greatly appreciate them stopping to shake it like a coconut. Sans grabs their hand and gives them short black eye sockets to shoo them away. It's effective. No one likes Sans' black sockets.

Undertale Papyrus - His voice suddenly turns very high-pitched as he jumps in surprise. He turns around and asks his kid to please not do that. The kid thought his voice was hilarious though and just waited for his dad to look away to do it again. Papyrus is getting so teased by Undyne the rest of the week.

Underswap Sans - He instinctively slaps whatever is touching THERE and realizes only after it is actually his toddler, who's now crying on the floor. Well great. Blue panics, trying to get them to calm down before they go snitch to his S/O.

Underswap Papyrus - He jumps in surprise, trips on a random lego, and then faceplants into the floor in front of a very confused Undyne. His toddler bursts into laughter and climbs on his back, asking him to do it again. Honey stays on the floor. Maybe it will absorb him or something. He's so embarrassed right now.

Underfell Sans - "ya cutting your bullshit right now or i'll do it to you to see how fun it is." That's for sure have no effect on his child who immediately grabs his tailbone again :D S/O enters the room to find his child screaming and trashing in the air while Red holds them above the ground by the tailbone, asking them how it feels now. Red then notices his S/O and very slowly puts the child back on the floor. Uh oh. He's in trouble, isn't he?

Underfell Papyrus - He throws Doomfanger in the air in surprise. The cat panics and jumps at Undyne's face, all claws out. While Undyne is struggling for her life, Edge turns around and starts to lecture his child about grabbing people's tailbone. You don't do that or people get hurt! Look at that, Aunt Undyne is getting absolutely destroyed by your fault! That doesn't mean Edge is going to help her though.

Horrortale Sans - He actually fell on his tailbone a lot when he had to learn how to walk again after Undyne exploded his head, so he has no sensitivity whatsoever in this part. He's actually surprised when Toriel says they're kid is pulling his tailbone. He blinks at them for a few seconds, then just shrugs. They seem to have fun.

Horrortale Papyrus - He randomly screams in the middle of his sentence and drags his kid by the arm in front of him. Better. Now stay where he can see you. He doesn't trust his child behind him ever again lol. He would prefer them not to try to hang to his tailbone as they are easy and it would hurt his back.

Swapfell Sans - He hisses and jumps so high he actually ends up on the top of the couch. He then blushes furiously as the Queen stares at him in complete disbelief. Oops. Yeah, maybe it was not a good moment to do that. He was surprised. S/O comes to his rescue and drags the child out of the room to prevent other diplomatic accidents.

Swapfell Papyrus - It's one of his ticklish weak points. He's trying really hard to keep a straight face, but eventually, he starts to laugh uncontrollably, trying to make his kid let go. His brother is staring at him, very concerned about him at the moment, wondering what just happened. Rus can't even explain. He's out of breath, trying to recover. Nox can't see the child so... He's concerned.

Fellswap Gold Sans - He suddenly straightens, twitching as he struggles to keep a straight face. He asks for the Queen to excuse him for a minute, then turns around, grabs his kid, throws him in the closet, and closes the door. Dad needs a moment to recover. Toriel is that close to calling social services honestly.

Fellswap Gold Papyrus - He yelps in the middle of the conversation, then flushes as both his brother and Alphys are now staring at him in complete silence. Wine asks if he's fine, he just nods eagerly, then runs out of the room, his kid still holding his tailbone firmly and refusing to let go. He's going to ask help to his S/O.

[northstarscowboyhat]

How would Clover react to a post-neutral run with Asgore dead and the 5 human souls gone. Would Clover reveal themself to a pro-human Underground with Toriel as Queen. Would they sacrifice their soul to dispel the pro-war, anti-human doctrine created by a Queen Undyne?

Excellent questions! The 5 human souls are still on Clover's mind, even after they've made their decision to live in the Underground. It's part of why they feel so obligated to watch after Frisk and try to steer them onto the correct path. Knowing that Frisk is now gone along with the 5 souls, along with the knowledge that they might've killed some Monsters on their way? Clover would be devastated. It'd be a massive point of guilt for them.

The ending with Toriel taking up the throne would probably be the best Neutral ending possible for Clover. It would definitely take their family a while of discussing what to do about the queen's new policies on humans (Ceroba in particular is pretty suspicious of the royal family in general) but eventually, Clover would reveal themselves. Toriel would feel pretty emotional that one of the children in her care survived in the Underground, and would decree that the Underground is open and welcome to Clover. Obviously a few Monsters like Undyne would be disgusted and hold a massive grudge against Clover, but there's not much she can do with the Royal Guard being disbanded. Not a perfect ending; it's unlikely that Monsters will ever get back to the surface and Clover has to deal with the emotional guilt and baggage of that, on top of what happened to the human souls and Frisk. Not a perfect ending, but they would at least not be living in secrecy with the risk of being killed if discovered.

The ending with Undyne would definitely be.... less than ideal. Now, with a larger focus on hunting down humans in the Underground, places become a lot less safe for Clover. They'd probably have to hide away in the Wild East area for good, because it's one of the few places left that doesn't have a Royal Guard stationed there. Starlo would probably have to stop letting tourists in, for fear of someone spotting Clover and reporting them. Definitely not a good ending by any means. Clover would conversely be quite bitter in this ending, feeling cheated out of what little freedom they had. If they were ever tempted to give up their soul in order for Undyne to free Monsterkind, it would definitely be done with less willingness and determination than other times. Probably a case of "I'm doing this for my family, not for you".

[popatochisssp]

Would papy end up telling his s/o about what happened underground? I know slate would but was curious if papy would?

At least to an extent, yes, but definitely not right away.

As much as Papy (Horrortale Papyrus) would want to respect his s/o’s right to make an informed decision about him…and his brother…a lot hinges on a certain version of how monsterkind handled the aftermath of the Famine being the only version in circulation.

The public story is that as queen, Undyne killed the ten necessary humans to break the barrier and then very promptly and responsibly confessed to it all and turned herself in to face the humans’ justice—very reasonable and respectable, went a long way towards getting monsters a warm welcome on the Surface in spite of having actually…you know, eaten humans.

It was to survive, and they didn’t kill anymore than they had to, and the one who did it volunteered to go to jail and everything!

That narrative kind of falls apart if it gets spread around that Undyne only killed three of ten, and ruined their souls in a grief-stricken rage so they couldn’t even be used for barrier-breaking, and the guy who killed the other seven is just sort of putzing about, free and clear.

So! Yes! Papy is inclined to keep that info close to the chest, lest there be any major diplomatic incidents or catastrophic worsening of public (human) opinion on monsters.

He’d be pretty upfront about the fact that he, personally, did the majority of the human-butchering and—if asked—share more generally what things were like before, during, after the Famine.

He doesn’t especially like remembering it, but he’d even freely talk about what human meat tasted like.

He’s an open book!

…but the part where it was his brother who did the lion’s share of human-killing, that he’s going to keep to himself for awhile. At least until his relationship with his s/o gets serious enough for him to be able to gauge how safe that information is with them.

Honesty is important in any relationship, but when all of your species’ continued peace and your brother’s un-incarcerated status is at stake, some manner of cautious secrecy may be required.