#qtubbo i love you

[terezicaptor]

"i wouldn't call this a villain arc... i'd call this a lifestyle adjustment"

"i'm not a believer in proportional response"

GUUUUYYYYSSSS

[tubchunk]

if i actually let lose abt my thoughts on how everyone treats qtubbo wanting to get create back as something to mock and make fun of, when the minute he makes factories they are going to steal from him and he womt even really stop them bc of who he is...... i would be making a lot of people mad :)

[ravenw1ngs]

Hey guys is now a good time to tell you I’m working on a 3-part series of qTubbo-centric fics that are a) half a character study, b) mostly canon compliant with some divergence around Purg 2 for ✨reasons✨, and c) focused heavily on family themes and Tubbo’s many issues?

[wellthatschaotic]

open tubbos stream to hear 'i'll treat quackity just as i'll treat cucurucho. there's no difference in my eyes' UH OH

[fitpacs]

Oi tumblr user fitpacs, I hope you’re doing well! Morale’s been running a little low for me but ur posts have really helped to cheer me up!!!! so here’s some angst

I think if Fit’s secret ever came out, the only one of his close friends who would turn against him would be Tubbo. I feel like Phil and Bagi would trust that he had his reasons/ask for more details (and Phil hearing that it was Fit’s chance to escape 2b2t would immediately be like Oh Yeah, Valid); Mike might be a bit harder to defuse but I think he’d come around eventually. But Tubbo? Tubbo’s very much a “fuck the motive” type of guy, plus with his growing distance from Fit, feeling left out from the secret, and how data is implied to be important for his lore too, learning that Fit has already taken and ‘sold off’ his data might kill the Morning Crew once and for all

this is so interesting for me to think about! for me, qtubbo is very much a ‘act now think later’ kind of guy towards everyone except his daughter, because he feels like he’s easily interchangeable in everyone’s life except for sunny’s - that’s why everything he does for sunny (in canon) is thought out and consequences minimised; see, for example, the creation lore, as well as qtubbo randomly calling fobo the egg hospital and calling sunny the special, number one patient.

so yeah i feel like he will feel betrayed when he does eventually find out about it all, it will bring back all of those feelings of him feeling inadequate and that fit and pac always like each other better than they like him, and that they secretly want tubbo to leave them alone (which, lbr, is the real reason he tries so hard to break them up, he feels like if they get so wrapped up in each other, he won’t have anyone else - which is also why i think qtubbo now pushes so hard for fobo, he wants to feel just as important to qfoolish as he can, just in case the morning crew - in his eyes - falls apart; fit and pac are together and have their two kids, bagi has tina and empanada, phil has his two kids who are his entire world, mike is always wrapped up in his building projects with richas and never really seeks out company… and who does that leave on their own? again?

and the real nail in the coffin for qtubbo’s feeling of betrayal will be when he finds out his data has been passed on - stolen from him and passed onto whoever the fuck (he won’t stick around to find out), he’ll take sunny and isolate the two of them for a while, knowing that he can only really trust his daughter now. he’s always felt like the morning crew like each other better than they like him, and the original members - fit and pac - both knew that tubbo’s data was stolen from him without consent and didn’t think to even run it past him? that just amplifies what he already feels. they don’t care about him, just about helping each other. yes, fit and pac’s data is passed on too, along with other members on the island, but the couple actively chose that ending - they would’ve had the option to take their data out of the pile, but they took that choice away from tubbo, and that just makes him feel like they don’t care about him at all.

and whatever is done with the data is out of his control, yes, maybe they’ll be teleported away, maybe they’ll be killed, but nothing will stay the same - qtubbo will be pulled away from the one being on the island he trusts without question and the one being that he needs to keep living on the island without going insane (sunny), and morning crew will most definitely be destroyed in tubbo’s mind as they haven’t only destroyed tubbo’s life by deciding the course of it just for fit’s own gain, but also destroyed sunny’s life as the one person she needs, the one person she has on the island that is always on her side, is ripped away from her.

[tsukana]

everything tubbo is saying rn is NOT helping the qphilza allegations that qtubbo would pick a different egg or something else over tallulah and chay :') we as the audience know but also. hh.

[doodlebloo]

Its so miserable that qTubbo's love interest may or may not be an old man and Chayanne isn't even here to laugh at him for that. Can you imagine how ruthlessly Chayanne would be dunking on him rn. we need the eggs back right neowww

[qtubbo]

i rewatched tubbo’s first few meetings with fred, and i forgot how quickly he became protective of them. literally day one he was telling off the others for not being nice to his new friend and at the maze even after fred started shooting at them tubbo told her to stick close because he didn’t want her to get hurt. same thing with the eggs and then with kitkat. he gets attached so easily. there's been a lot of talk about frubbo lately but honestly anyone who's nice to him gets a shocking amount of loyalty (until they do something that hurts him)

He admittedly does imprint on anything that like remotely shows kindness, I think it helps thats both Fred and KitKat are like naive to him in the sense that he doesn’t believe they could be using him. While he latched onto to trusting Pac pretty quickly. He hung out with Fit more, but it took him longer to be unwavering to him because Fit had secrets.

[flowerquib]

HUG OF FOBO!

whoever said that qfoolish was the only person besides the eggs who have hugged qtubbo in a long time

this is your fault

This is based off this image

"I forgive you, okay? You freed me. You freed me."

I will cry I love Fobo so much

[rainecreatesstuff]

something I really really love is the difference between qFit’s and qPac’s reactions to qTubbo’s fears about morning crew.

Like, Fit still cares about Tubbo a lot, still considers him and Sunny family, still loves them, but is so so frustrated by Tubbo acting the way he is. Which makes sense for him. I think that Fit has experienced loneliness enough to recognize it in others, but has experienced the typical loneliness of being physically alone. For him, loneliness is having nobody to watch your back, and seeing others have connections and attachments and aching for that. So for him, when Tubbo starts acting out after he and Pac don’t hang out with him for one day, of course he sees it as Tubbo being childish and frustrating.

And then later, we hear him talking to Ramón about how a friendship needs to go both ways. If Tubbo wants to be friends, he needs to reach out too. He can’t leave all the work for Fit. He sees Tubbo’s loneliness, and asks why he’s not coming to them.

Versus Pac, who I think is much more familiar with the kind of loneliness Tubbo is going through. Pac has had those experiences of being surrounded by people and feeling like you’re in a glass cage, watching everyone else interact while you’re just stuck. He sees Tubbo lashing out and sees it for what it is — an attempt to lessen the hurt of them growing apart by pushing it himself. While Fit strikes back at Tubbo, downs him, Pac just watches thoughtfully. Talks to Fit and Bagi about how they can make Tubbo happy again.

I think Pac understands a little bit better why it’s so hard for Tubbo to be the one to reach out. Gets that, when you feel like someone doesn’t care, it’s a lot easier to leave them be than to try to force that relationship to continue. It’s a lot easier to just wait in silence, to be less of a burden or annoyance, and if they really want to be friends, they’ll come to you.

And Fit’s not, like, bad for not getting it like Pac does. I think, to some degree, Tubbo needs to have somebody who’s not gonna let him stew in self-pity and try to rescue him every time. He needs somebody who’s gonna force him a little bit out of that comfort zone, that’s gonna make him realize that he’s constructing a self-fulfilling prophecy by hiding himself away.

And he also needs someone who’s gonna knock on his door at 10AM and wrap an arm around him and say Hey! We’re going to do this thing! And you’re coming too! I am specifically inviting YOU because I want to spend time with you! He needs someone who’s gonna see his rejection sensitivity for what it is and tell him he is loved and appreciated.

he needs both these things in moderation, and Fit and Pac are gonna be there to give him that. Maybe not perfectly, right now, because the emotional tide’s still high and they are trying to navigate the shift in dynamic.

But eventually, they’ll get there.

[terezicaptor]

I love watching old tubbo qsmp vods bc the initial interactions between qtubbo and fit are like

Tubbo: hi fit

Fit: hey tubbo what's up

Tubbo, muted: chat did you fucking hear that. Chat he's a federation spy he's going to fucking kill us all. He knows where my children are

[tubchunk]

see more likely than not q!tubbo's actions aint gonna do shit and its not even gonna be serious attempts to break fitpac up itll be the cartoonish hijinks devolving into slapstick comedy

but the reasoning behind it all..... the reason he wants to do this....... That is what is making me go insane

[tubborucho]

Tubbo, Tina, Badboyhalo – We have a shared longing: to devour the devine

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2. by Richey Edwards

3. “An Ideal Husband” Oscar Wilde

4. Lana Del Ray – Old Money

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8. Quote by Kristin Chang

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10. “A Self-Portrait in Letters” Anne Sexton

[chayannesegg]

do people realize you can dislike the jokes someone is making, and find them inappropriate, and want them to stop, and still not frame a gay man as "disgusting" and "disturbing" for messing with straight men doing gay rp in minecraft. like, that's actually just a bad thing to do!

yes, there is a very real tension in the jokes tubbo makes and in the words and rhetoric he mocks. (and yes it is clearly jokes)

but that's exactly why the fact he is gay matters. it matters very much. tubbo is gay. homophobia is going to affect him his entire life. 

fact is, fit and pac can do their little gay rp (and they do a good meaningful job! i love fitpac) and get given money and attention and accolades for it and then walk away from the computer and go about their lives completely unaffected.

the same is literally not true for tubbo (whose sexuality has been under intense public scrutiny since he was a child). he does not get to walk away from it. he will never get to walk away from it.

fit and pac, even if they do a sincere job at it, are very much playing at a gay relationship (and profitting!) in a fake world where nothing about it is ever going to seriously affect them (not even qtubbo's "homophobia"). this is completely juxtaposed to the real world, where tubbo lives, where homophobia very much has a real impact on queer people

it's that tension that tubbo is trying to eat at with his jokes. it's that tension that he finds funny. it's that tension that he enjoys making the straight creators aware of. that's the basis of it and it's completely rooted in him being a gay man.

don't get me wrong, it is an EDGY form of humour. it's meant to be jarring and uncomfortable and it's not the most appropriate for the wider qsmp audience. he doesn't always succeed with the tone or format. and i totally understand people who don't like it and are uncomfortable with it and who want to ask him to stop. i really do

dislike it. dislike him for it. ask for it to be stopped as much as you want. but painting it as tubbo randomly making "disgusting" and "disturbing" light of a real world issue is simply not accurate. removing the very real context as to why he can make these jokes and why he makes these specific types of jokes is not fair. you can do better with your criticism!

[linimoonlight]

I keep thinking about the town of fobo homophobia bit because its so interesting from so many perspectives!

For qTubbo it might have started as a joke but also an outlet to express his fear of being left behind with qFit and qPacs relationship becoming official. (I have definitely seen some great posts on here that are better at diving deep into it than me.)

And then there is qFit and the talk he had with qFoolish a few days ago. This whole thing is so much more complicated for his character than for most others. He comes from an incredibly toxic, homophobic place. He has just started to finally overcome his deeply rooted internilization. He is finally happy being himself, having a loving boyfriend. And thats not an easy thing to overcome! Its incredibly hard to get rid of old habits and thought patterns! But he is trying and succeeding every day a little bit more.

But if you have someone who constantly confirms these old thought patterns you fought so hard to get past it makes it just soo much harder to not fall back, to stay on track. So if qFit jokingly talking to qFoolish comes across a little more serious than he intended than maybe because to him it is a little more serious even if he hasnt realized it.

And then there is qFoolish who probably just hates all gay people because his boyfriend has been gone for so long and he has no one to be gay with.

[bitchinstrawberry]

i love the town of fobo so so much.

it started as a joke, and is now going to be filled with trains and dinosaurs and now horses. i was really hoping to see a industrial/steampunk-y western town, and we might get something like that!

sunny and leo are now getting along really well. sharing beds and soon they'll be sharing a room. both girls are strong and independent, running around the fields and farmlands by themselves. barefoot without a care in the world despite their past lives as rich heirs. (i'd love to see more art of the four of them being full cowboy for the earlier days of fobo, like sunny in denim overall skirts matching leo's own denim overalls LEO WITH A RED COWBOY HAT?)

qfoolish and qtubbo compliment each other very well. lore wise they both were able to get a lot of info from the feds in their respective ways. they are both really good at the game, and both get obsessive with their goals.

also!! they are both girl dads!! and it's the cutest thing ever! like they both are totally cool with sunny making the walls pink, and adding pink curtains. i guarantee you qfoolish has matching nail polish with leo and qtubbo uses sunny's bows to push his hair back.

and, only if this is a safe place, i kinda like the potential of foolbo as a romantic pair. they already lied once saying qfoolish is sunny's other dad. and qtubbo called them a family that "moved into a fixer upper on a farm" to one of the bunny workers.

the found family of it all makes me so happy!!