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More of this for Fox News interviews, please.
👉🏿 https://colorofchange.org/newsaccuracyratings/
👉🏿 https://blog.oup.com/2018/04/crime-news-media-america/
👉🏿 https://aninjusticemag.com/white-shooters-are-most-often-responsible-for-mass-school-shootings-6e7b647b5cce
#politics#lol#fox news#the five#seattle#discomfort ≠ danger#crime#the media is complicit#journalism#punitive justice vs restorative justice
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i will always love the original version of the deep space nine theme song best, but i do understand why they put more zip to it in the later seasons. breathtaking musical composition, but yeah it's kinda slow for an action/adventure tv theme song, so if you're already remaking the opening sequence to add the defiant, go ahead and punch it up. good idea, good execution.
fully hilarious though that enterprise tried to do the same thing ten years later, because as memeable as faith of the heart is the Skip Intro era, it's really hard to overstate how much vitriol people had about the theme song in real time. i will say that fandom history overstates this a little because it wasn't universally treated as a sin against god, there were at least twelve diehard trekkies out there (including me) who looked at this gorgeous intro sequence paired with a mediocre cover of a rod stewart song and went "hmm. weird choice, but you make a good point, i would like to have strength of the soul and reach any star."
but the star trek fans who like being mad about star trek were frothing at the mouth. it wasn't just silly and bad this was the rallying point for how enterprise was an affront to star trek. they were NOT going to take it lying down, they had torches they had pitchforks, they were nailing a list of grievances to the church door and THE FUCKING THEME SONG HAS LYRICS was thesis #1.
(followed by "why are the vulcans jerks :(" and an itemized list of every single canon inconsistency)
so it is so, so fucking funny to imagine the network meeting that must have taken place sometime in late season two when they were bleeding audience numbers and UPN started making the worst previews of all time ("tune in for next week's SPECIAL ENTERPRISE EVENT: ✨Canamar✨!") (the previews also spoiled the ending of every episode for months, like they weren't just bad they were actively damaging) (it was soooo so hard to have a good time as an enterprise fan in 2003).
so this meeting happens and they go okay. we know what to do here. first up. put "star trek" back in the name (it was just "enterprise" for the first two seasons to "attract a new audience"). next. is there a way we can make this about 9/11. great great good job. can we put jolene in a different catsuit? and then some intern whose job it is to monitor the forums on television without pity timidly reminds them about the torches and pitchforks and they're like oh yeah we should remix the theme song! and the intern is like WHEW so should i book an orchestra for like an hour to do an instrumental version of the closing credits and then bermaga or some clown at UPN is like no no no you're not getting it. the lyrics aren't the problem. they just don't understand our vision because there weren't enough bongos.
#faith of the heart (punitive remix)#don't come at me if they're not bongos you KNOW that SPIRITUALLY those are BONGOS#i'm telling you it is so funny EVERY time someone starts enterprise and they're like okay i was warned about the theme song#but it seems... like... i mean it's kind of ok? i'm getting into it?#and i'm like :) just wait :)#and they come back to me in season three like I'M FUCKING SORRY WHAT????#it never gets old#oh my god. imagine if they lose the rights someday and it ends up becoming instrumental after the fact#enterprise#star trek thoughts
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So I wrote an addition to a post recently talking about punitive justice on Tumblr.
Someone reblogged it, then deleted their reblog and went with reblogging the original post.
I had gone to their blog to see if I'd be interested in following them, so I noticed this when I wouldn't have otherwise.
I wish I could believe they'd disagreed with my point overall. It happens.
But I don't. I believe they reblogged me, then noticed my final point about how Tumblr folks have redefined "Nazi" to be synonymous with "Zionist" and "Zionist" to mean "Jew".
And, based on their other posts on the current war, they realized they'd be ejected from the terrorism fandom if they publicly agreed that Jews have been badly treated on Tumblr in the last year.
#jumblr#antisemitism#leftist antisemitism#antisemitism on tumblr#and so it goes#is-the-fire-real original#punitive justice#also: way to engage in the exact kind of behavior castigated by the OP you happily reblogged
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Opinion I have that I don't see anyone else say:
I think prisoners should be allowed there smart phones and Internet access
I'm against prisons as an institution and it's barbaric that there is such a limited communication you can have with the outside world, dehumanizing people by making them unaware of what's going on in the world
The ability to look up information, see the news, learn about current events, watch pornography, keep up with cultural ideas, communicate with your loved ones, be available for your kid to call whenever, advocate for yourself publicly, and any entertainment are all things I think are important to all humans and should not be restricted
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jamie may i kindly ask for some mcmatt in these trying times.... I fear i miss them
certified Bad Drivers chucky + davo !! spreading the mcmatt agenda :D🤝
#in all fairness to them parallel parking on a busy street is essentially punitive#ethan we get each other. mcmatt#matthew tkachuk#connor mcdavid#florida panthers#edmonton oilers#hockey art#yjart#req!#hockey rpf#hrpf#mcmatt
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“aegon’s mini-speech to larys listing his new ailments and insecurities was designed to humiliate his character” is easily the funniest breed of finale hate so far. “The guy who gets traumatically castrated as a result of an already extremely traumatic disabling event in every version of this story should never bring it up bc I, the viewer, consider that an insurmountable embarrassment for him and inherently undignified. I’m saying this for disability rights reasons btw.”
#tbh if you think Aegon’s maiming and/or Alicent’s assaults by Viserys and/or Larys were meant as narrative punishment then like#that is a weird punitive worldview that you brought from home! the show is very clearly not doing that!#it goes out of its way to tell you Rook’s Rest and other disasters were futile but devastating acts bc That’s War. Karma is not in the room#hotd#fandomwank#text#also a lot of these posts also consider Aemond existing while naked to have been humiliaring which is so like. bewildering?#did you all get christian homeschooled or something
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dad I finished copying my lines... I will be very good
Papa j’ai terminé de recopier mes lignes… je serai très sage
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Let the record show I’m all about Utopian Pillars and building a better world, but. Am I the only person who thinks Union could stand to be a little less scary sometimes?
#like damn they really like to talk about locking people up#I didn’t. really think that punitive justice works all that well#if anything all that heavy-handed talk feels like it’d scare some folks away from seeking help for x or y or like#add ranks to the other sides yknow?#lancer rp#oc rp
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defenders are firefighters with less of an emphasis on fire. imo. their job is to come fix a situation, not arrest whoever caused it!!
#vaugarde is not that authoritative and punitive#thoughts#thoughts about isat#ofc firefighters aren’t perfect either but at least they’re not cop
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Facing the Axolotl
#gods art#bill cipher#the axolotl#postfinale#my art highlights#the horror of confronting deeply buried emotions suddenly brought to the forefront by unconditional love#something something punitive justice is pointless and stupid. bill doesnt know that though#having so much fun with shapes and colors and textures#also related to->#mylongficidea
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Yeah it’s cool and all that Lyanna Mormont and Wylla Manderly are such vocal Stark loyalists. But it’s actually quite important that they share names with two of the most important women in Jon Snow’s life: Lyanna Stark - his mother, and Wylla - his wetnurse and rumored mother in universe. Such stunning loyalty from these two girls who are named after women so important to Jon just tickles all the key parts of my brain. These are the women who gave him life. And it’s even more poignant when we realize that by ADWD, when the girls are declaring their loyalty, Jon is the KiTN who bears the name STARK per Robb’s decree.
#jon snow#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#lyanna mormont#->#lyanna stark#wylla manderly#<-#wylla the wetnurse#Lyanna couldn’t press her son’s claim and wylla had no power#so little Lyanna and young wylla step in for them#and do what they can with the little power they have#though they may not truly know what it means#I’m sorry but jon is like at the very heart of the gnc - however big or small#the conspiracy by itself is really about love - love the north has for the Starks and esp ned stark#but then we have Jon a product of love - lyanna’s wylla’s and ned’s#and he has been named KING#it’s why a stark comeback can’t be punitive vengeance#it has to be about restorative justice - the return of love to the north where fear and hate once ruled#let stannis do the avenging#but let jon bring love when all is said and done
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"Batman is a bad person for not killing the Joker at this point."
I'm going to throw you off a roof. Like, you realize he is JUST a guy, right??? A single guy cannot decide that someone should die and kill them, that's not how it works. Weren't we all against cops killing people instead of arresting them, wtf do you think a random (rich and white) guy should be able to do that???
Also, it's a FUCKING COMICS. Like, the Joker will be revived as easily as the batkids are lately. And the writers have no interest in applying rehabilitation, it would not sell if all the famous rogues stopped doing crimes and Gotham got better. And they are USAmericans, half of them probably cannot understand the concept of "rehabilitation > punishment".
Btw, COUNTRIES WITHOUT THE DEATH PENALTY OR EVEN LIFE SENTENCES EXIST! Denmark, for example, doesn’t do life sentences and they are very good at rehabitation. You kind of sound stupid when you argue that something cannot be done while other countries are doing it (very usamerican of y'all) So, accept that you do not know shit about the human's mind and possibility for better, and stop with your usamerican "killing everyone I don't like is good" propaganda.
#batman#bruce wayne#the joker#dc comics#my ramblings#sorry saw a politic post where people where bashing Batman for not killing the joker and I had to rant#like how dare you call yourself a leftist if you don't understand that the death penalty is wrong that rehabitation is better than punition#and a single man should never choose if another life is equal because YES BY KILLING SOMEONE YOU ARE SAYING THEY AREN'T AN EQUAL HUMAN#you are breaking the human rights#“I don't see why I would be bad for killing a bad person” because you're dumb kevin#do you really think most killers don't kill people they think are bad? they do#they don't go around being like “I'm a bad guy!” they think they are the good guys and killing bad guys#like a lot of serial killers who killed women because they hated women due to how they reminded them of their abusive mom#in their mind they were doing the world justice by getting rid of these dangerous bad women#but they weren't#“the road to hell is paved with good intentions” fella#“but I'm the one who is good!” in your mind with your logic#do you see the logic here? or do you need to go back to high school philosophy's lesson where I learned that shit?!#“I don't think these criminals should have human rights” you aren't a leftist get the fuck out of here
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tbh saying "X fictional thing is problematic and therefore Morally Wrong" and taking it to heart like a purity campaign whose practitioners must be eradicated from this fair earth is obviously pretty stupid, nasty and unhelpful... but to me the whole "you know fictional characters aren't real lol right" type of backlash hangs out roughly in the same philosophical ballpark than "the curtains are blue because they are fucking blue" jokes, and I wouldn't exactly call that progress either
#thoughts#critical media analysis#remember her everyone?#this is her now#feel old yet?#anyway both of these approaches are different shades of anti-intellectualism and I'm sure we can collectively choose to do better#fiction is argumentative inherently! even merely emotionally --it still attempts to convince your brain of something#and I feel like a lot of people don't understand that this is an unescapable part of fiction that can (and should) be unpacked#and its conclusions don't even have to lead to any sort of swift and immediate punitive justice of any kind!!!#wild I know
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There are few things I find sexier than Odysseus singlehandedly slaughtering all of the men who intended to rape his wife. Go off, king
#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga#epic odysseus#tw rape mention#obviously irl I think violence is bad and punitive justice doesn’t fix our problems#but DAMN
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I'm rewatching Death Note and it's making me think of death sentencing, the way even the show itself is like, "Don't worry, that guy was expendable because he was on death row anyway," as if the police weren't toying with the convict's lives just as much as Kira. The problem the police had with Kira was that Kira was acting as an unaccountable vigilante. However, Light Yagami was selecting targets from news reports and prisons, so they were essentially already pre-selected for him via the judicial system (with the exception of the biker gang at the beginning).
Kira was seen as a blight who went against the beliefs of his society, but he looks more like an inevitable product of that society, reflecting the underlying beliefs that they did not want to face. Kira showed the overwhelming power and surveillance used to wantonly ruin lives based on the limited judgements of humans. The structure of it was all already there, even the death penalty. Light and all others raised with this punitive system had been implicitly taught, "There are a subset of citizens who, because of their heinous actions, are now classified as permanently 'subhuman,' and therefore they can be treated however we wish." I don't know if the manga addresses it, but how many prisoners did Light Yagami kill who were wrongly convicted? Did Light take the time to look over each case file, weighing the strength of evidence himself? Or did he not even question the competence of the justice system to perfectly sift the "guilty" from the "innocent?"
Light was a naive, idealistic, and egotistic teenager. But if anything, he was just learning from the adults around him and emulating what he was implicitly taught, whether the adults intended to give that message or not. They taught about "good guys" and "bad guys," and they failed to teach about grey areas, nuance, complexity, the flaws in authorities, and compassion.
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Why I oppose punitive justice
Time for another anarchist talking point. I actually do not believe in punitive justice. I do not believe in locking people up in jail or making them pay fines as punishment (though asking them to pay for something they broke is alright). And I do even less believe in violence as a form of punishment. Moreover I do believe that the idea of punishment is rooted in a deeply flawed perception of why crimes get commited, as well as a deeply flawed idea of what justice is.
Let me explain.
I will say it again: I actually do believe that humans are in general decent creatures who have evolved to function well in groups. As such it is for the most part not our nature to commit crimes - outside of things were the crime actually is something that should not be illegal in the first place.
Most crimes, that do get committed, have one of the following causes:
It is a crime arrising from a situation committed spontanously without much prior thought.
It is a crime committed out of a desperate situation with the "criminal" not seeing any other way out.
It is a crime committed by someone in a psychologically bad place.
It is a crime committed by a true believer who believed himself to act justly.
One of the first ideas of punitive justice is that it somehow deters people from committing crimes, because they will think to themselves: "I do not want to be punished." But this just ignores the actual reasoning behind those crimes.
Someone who commits crime spontanously (which is a lot of violent crime, actually - most violent crime is not committed by someone who has gone somewhere with a plan to commit violence, but rather arises out of people unable to deal with emotions) does not think about the consequences in the moment.
Someone in a desperate situation often just does not see themselves having a choice. Examples of this can both be that person killing an abusive partner or parent, or the person stealing bread from a supermarket, because they are otherwise going to starve.
Someone who commits crimes because they are psychologically in a bad place (by which I do not even mean the serial killers, though some of them surely also fall under this umbrella - rather I am speaking of people who are prone to violence, have habbits or are forced into crime through addiction and the like) often will not consider possible outcomes either.
And the last kind of person usually tends to believe they are in their right to do whatever. This might be those abusing partners, as well as a ton of people committing hate crimes.
So, yeah... Punishment does not deter people from crimes. We even do have statistics on this showing that often enough in the places with the most harsh punishments there are more crimes getting committed than in the places with softer punishment.
Now, when it comes to the entire idea of justice... Two wrongs do not make a right. Punishing someone does not make the crime undone. Especially given that the punishment often lasts much longer than whatever the actual sentence is, due to societal prejudice against anyone who might have been imprisoned once.
Don't get me wrong: I do think there are some cases where people might need to be somewhere under lockdown, because otherwise they will not stop dealing in violence. The "true believers" often belong under this category. And some people in psychological emergencies, too.
But they should be kept secure for that reason: Security. Not to punish them for their crimes.
Punishment does not make a society safer. At best it satisfies some vengeful lustings of a society. And if we do not (and we cannot) satisfy an individuals lusting for revenge... We should also not do that on a society wide scale. Rather we should focus on making the world safer for everyone.
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