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More of this for Fox News interviews, please.
👉🏿 https://colorofchange.org/newsaccuracyratings/
👉🏿 https://blog.oup.com/2018/04/crime-news-media-america/
👉🏿 https://aninjusticemag.com/white-shooters-are-most-often-responsible-for-mass-school-shootings-6e7b647b5cce
#politics#lol#fox news#the five#seattle#discomfort ≠ danger#crime#the media is complicit#journalism#punitive justice vs restorative justice
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there are so many moments in the wheel of time that I always thought were written to sort of intentionally subvert the readers desire to see karmic justice befall characters who are The Worst, where the idea of justice gets pushed so far that there's no real satisfaction in it, it's just horrifying. what happened to galina and elaida, even the battle of dumai's wells. you spend so long waiting for rand to be freed and for him to get revenge, but when you actually see it it's just sort of sad. like I never got the impression "asha'man, kill" was supposed to be a victory, I thought it was supposed to be sad and disturbing, and a reflection of how far rand has been pushed and broken down and what he's become willing to do. anyway it's been strange interacting with the wider WoT fan base and seeing how many people really do find these moments incredibly satisfying and celebrate how the characters finally got what they deserved. I don't know if I was misinterpreting what I assumed was authorial intent, or if it even really matters one way or another, but it's always been something that throws me off a bit
#wot#wheel of time#this is the biggest reason i hate going on the wot subreddit#and maybe it is just a me thing but#the way RJ handles retribution and punitive justice was one of the most fascinating things in the books for me#and it was strange seeing how many people did not see it the way i did#kal.txt#wot spoilers
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i will always love the original version of the deep space nine theme song best, but i do understand why they put more zip to it in the later seasons. breathtaking musical composition, but yeah it's kinda slow for an action/adventure tv theme song, so if you're already remaking the opening sequence to add the defiant, go ahead and punch it up. good idea, good execution.
fully hilarious though that enterprise tried to do the same thing ten years later, because as memeable as faith of the heart is the Skip Intro era, it's really hard to overstate how much vitriol people had about the theme song in real time. i will say that fandom history overstates this a little because it wasn't universally treated as a sin against god, there were at least twelve diehard trekkies out there (including me) who looked at this gorgeous intro sequence paired with a mediocre cover of a rod stewart song and went "hmm. weird choice, but you make a good point, i would like to have strength of the soul and reach any star."
but the star trek fans who like being mad about star trek were frothing at the mouth. it wasn't just silly and bad this was the rallying point for how enterprise was an affront to star trek. they were NOT going to take it lying down, they had torches they had pitchforks, they were nailing a list of grievances to the church door and THE FUCKING THEME SONG HAS LYRICS was thesis #1.
(followed by "why are the vulcans jerks :(" and an itemized list of every single canon inconsistency)
so it is so, so fucking funny to imagine the network meeting that must have taken place sometime in late season two when they were bleeding audience numbers and UPN started making the worst previews of all time ("tune in for next week's SPECIAL ENTERPRISE EVENT: ✨Canamar✨!") (the previews also spoiled the ending of every episode for months, like they weren't just bad they were actively damaging) (it was soooo so hard to have a good time as an enterprise fan in 2003).
so this meeting happens and they go okay. we know what to do here. first up. put "star trek" back in the name (it was just "enterprise" for the first two seasons to "attract a new audience"). next. is there a way we can make this about 9/11. great great good job. can we put jolene in a different catsuit? and then some intern whose job it is to monitor the forums on television without pity timidly reminds them about the torches and pitchforks and they're like oh yeah we should remix the theme song! and the intern is like WHEW so should i book an orchestra for like an hour to do an instrumental version of the closing credits and then bermaga or some clown at UPN is like no no no you're not getting it. the lyrics aren't the problem. they just don't understand our vision because there weren't enough bongos.
#faith of the heart (punitive remix)#don't come at me if they're not bongos you KNOW that SPIRITUALLY those are BONGOS#i'm telling you it is so funny EVERY time someone starts enterprise and they're like okay i was warned about the theme song#but it seems... like... i mean it's kind of ok? i'm getting into it?#and i'm like :) just wait :)#and they come back to me in season three like I'M FUCKING SORRY WHAT????#it never gets old#oh my god. imagine if they lose the rights someday and it ends up becoming instrumental after the fact#enterprise#star trek thoughts
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So I wrote an addition to a post recently talking about punitive justice on Tumblr.
Someone reblogged it, then deleted their reblog and went with reblogging the original post.
I had gone to their blog to see if I'd be interested in following them, so I noticed this when I wouldn't have otherwise.
I wish I could believe they'd disagreed with my point overall. It happens.
But I don't. I believe they reblogged me, then noticed my final point about how Tumblr folks have redefined "Nazi" to be synonymous with "Zionist" and "Zionist" to mean "Jew".
And, based on their other posts on the current war, they realized they'd be ejected from the terrorism fandom if they publicly agreed that Jews have been badly treated on Tumblr in the last year.
#jumblr#antisemitism#leftist antisemitism#antisemitism on tumblr#and so it goes#is-the-fire-real original#punitive justice#also: way to engage in the exact kind of behavior castigated by the OP you happily reblogged
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Opinion I have that I don't see anyone else say:
I think prisoners should be allowed there smart phones and Internet access
I'm against prisons as an institution and it's barbaric that there is such a limited communication you can have with the outside world, dehumanizing people by making them unaware of what's going on in the world
The ability to look up information, see the news, learn about current events, watch pornography, keep up with cultural ideas, communicate with your loved ones, be available for your kid to call whenever, advocate for yourself publicly, and any entertainment are all things I think are important to all humans and should not be restricted
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ironic that one of the all time best anti monopoly strategies (lower transaction costs for firms) is so often vehemently opposed by anti-monopolists
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The Louella/Lou Lou switch did not in itself bother me, but I don't think the way the Capitol went about this was realistic. Their behaviour was not guided by what I expect a totalitarian regime to do, but what they had to do to follow the author's propaganda theme.
A realistic Capitol would have twisted Louella's death to be the fault of the Districts. They would have used the parade as a reason to warrant reaping another tribute from District 12 and done it as publicly and painfully as possible. Of course they will do everything to keep the tributes from killing themselves (forcefield around the rooftop), but imagine the pressure they could place on a tribute: If you kill yourself, it's your fault that another kid from your District gets reaped.
Others have said it already, but this was a book about historical revisionism and not propaganda. The reaping in 12 was fine. Louella isn't actually dead. The Games happened differently. While I appreciate the Orwellian references (Ministry of Truth), I think elements of propaganda could have been displayed far better had the Capitol kept to the truth but twisted its interpretation, not the actual events themselves.
Because the point of Orwell's 2+2=5 was never to replace a 2 with a 3, but to see both 2s and earnestly believe the result to be 5. It was never deception, but a different interpretation from reality.
Because if we apply the Capitol's mindset from the 50th, Katniss' Games couldn't have happened. No volunteering. No mourning Rue. No berry scene. But we know they happened, because people clearly remember them when referencing these events in Mockingjay! The Capitol had simply done the most to have its citizens interpret the events differently—not to hide them away.
#thg#the hunger games#louella mccoy#sotr spoilers#sotr#sunrise on the reaping#the entire point of the games is that they are punitive.#if it was historical revisionism then. wouldn't they have pretended the dark days never happened#to erase rebellion even as an idea?#but they never did because it was all about punishing the districts. again#and again. and again. and again.#a boot stamping on a human face forever
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jamie may i kindly ask for some mcmatt in these trying times.... I fear i miss them
certified Bad Drivers chucky + davo !! spreading the mcmatt agenda :D🤝
#in all fairness to them parallel parking on a busy street is essentially punitive#ethan we get each other. mcmatt#matthew tkachuk#connor mcdavid#florida panthers#edmonton oilers#hockey art#req!#hockey rpf#hrpf#mcmatt#adelart
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“aegon’s mini-speech to larys listing his new ailments and insecurities was designed to humiliate his character” is easily the funniest breed of finale hate so far. “The guy who gets traumatically castrated as a result of an already extremely traumatic disabling event in every version of this story should never bring it up bc I, the viewer, consider that an insurmountable embarrassment for him and inherently undignified. I’m saying this for disability rights reasons btw.”
#tbh if you think Aegon’s maiming and/or Alicent’s assaults by Viserys and/or Larys were meant as narrative punishment then like#that is a weird punitive worldview that you brought from home! the show is very clearly not doing that!#it goes out of its way to tell you Rook’s Rest and other disasters were futile but devastating acts bc That’s War. Karma is not in the room#hotd#fandomwank#text#also a lot of these posts also consider Aemond existing while naked to have been humiliaring which is so like. bewildering?#did you all get christian homeschooled or something
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Going insane thinking about Martlet at the end of the Aborted No Mercy Run.
You have a human standing before you. They have proven themself to be just as dangerous as your mentor said they'd be: through the Dark Ruins, Lower Snowdin, and the Dunes, they had carved out a trail of dust and death and misery. Dozens of your fellow monsters have fallen under their gun.
And yet! This human granted mercy to you and a bunch of half-rusted robots. Is that enough kindness within them to make them worthy of redemption? Should you let them go unpunished? Families have been irreparably destroyed, friends and fellow citizens have been slaughtered on their quest for vengeance. This wasn't some frightened kid defending themself; all of their actions--all of those deaths--were deliberate. If people knew that you took them in, they'd tear down your doors demanding bloodshed for all the grief this human inflicted on the Underground and brand you a villain. No matter what you do, whether it be to kill them or grant them mercy, dozens are dead regardless.
And yet, this human, Clover (though you're the only one who knows their name), isn't attacking you. Even when you've thrown away the only chance you had at defeating them, they're not attacking you. They're listening to your idea about staying with you, they either agree or hesitate at the prospect of staying with you before agreeing. They've agreed to put their tendency towards violence/dustshed behind them and to try to be peaceful. You've never been quite sure if you've made the best choices until after you've made them, but this one? In this moment, this one results in the least amount of violence and death between the two of you.
Is this the best choice and outcome for this situation? I don't know, I'm not qualified enough to answer that. But if it wasn't for Flowey's meddling, it would have worked.
#undertale yellow#i think a lot about the whole ''punitive vs restorative'' justice thing going on between Martlet and Clover in high LOVE routes.#had i been in Martlet's shoes in this situation i doubt i would have been able to toss the DT away and offer Clover a place to stay.#idk. it's complicated. i feel like everyone should be given the chance to improve themself if that's what they choose to do.#AND YET! i can't stop that monkey brain part of me that would be screaming to kill them. even though killing Clover would solve#nothing and all those citizens would be dead regardless.#in that way Martlet is a better person than I am. and yet! shouldn't the guilty be taught some sort of lesson???#even if it's not death shouldn't there be some sort of punishment? would punishment even be effective or am i seeking#out some form of retribution for my own sense of satisfaction?#i REALLY wish this was something that the fandom took more interest in because there's so much meat to this situation.#the ONLY difference between this version of Neutral Clover and the No Mercy Route Clover is a bunch of destroyed robots in a forgotten#part of the Underground. the same number of actual people are still dead.#char: martlet#char: clover
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Let the record show I’m all about Utopian Pillars and building a better world, but. Am I the only person who thinks Union could stand to be a little less scary sometimes?
#like damn they really like to talk about locking people up#I didn’t. really think that punitive justice works all that well#if anything all that heavy-handed talk feels like it’d scare some folks away from seeking help for x or y or like#add ranks to the other sides yknow?#lancer rp#oc rp
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defenders are firefighters with less of an emphasis on fire. imo. their job is to come fix a situation, not arrest whoever caused it!!
#vaugarde is not that authoritative and punitive#thoughts#thoughts about isat#ofc firefighters aren’t perfect either but at least they’re not cop
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a common sentiment I see in analysis of children's/young adult media, including zelda, is the idea of "deserving" something, especially in regards to villains/villains with redemption arcs. this is going to get philosophical probably, but while i understand why people use the word the moralistic framework it invites gets on my nerves
#i'll yap later about this#my lunch break's almost over. sigh#glider rambles#my thought process may end up just be me plagiarizing this one longpost on punitive justice but i THINK there's something else here
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The anti censorship crowd I surround myself with on tumblr did NOT prepare me for how insanely pro censorship book threads is. My god
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Facing the Axolotl
#gods art#bill cipher#the axolotl#postfinale#my art highlights#the horror of confronting deeply buried emotions suddenly brought to the forefront by unconditional love#something something punitive justice is pointless and stupid. bill doesnt know that though#having so much fun with shapes and colors and textures#also related to->#mylongficidea
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Yeah it’s cool and all that Lyanna Mormont and Wylla Manderly are such vocal Stark loyalists. But it’s actually quite important that they share names with two of the most important women in Jon Snow’s life: Lyanna Stark - his mother, and Wylla - his wetnurse and rumored mother in universe. Such stunning loyalty from these two girls who are named after women so important to Jon just tickles all the key parts of my brain. These are the women who gave him life. And it’s even more poignant when we realize that by ADWD, when the girls are declaring their loyalty, Jon is the KiTN who bears the name STARK per Robb’s decree.
#jon snow#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#lyanna mormont#->#lyanna stark#wylla manderly#<-#wylla the wetnurse#Lyanna couldn’t press her son’s claim and wylla had no power#so little Lyanna and young wylla step in for them#and do what they can with the little power they have#though they may not truly know what it means#I’m sorry but jon is like at the very heart of the gnc - however big or small#the conspiracy by itself is really about love - love the north has for the Starks and esp ned stark#but then we have Jon a product of love - lyanna’s wylla’s and ned’s#and he has been named KING#it’s why a stark comeback can’t be punitive vengeance#it has to be about restorative justice - the return of love to the north where fear and hate once ruled#let stannis do the avenging#but let jon bring love when all is said and done
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