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what r your thoughts on forkle /gen
as a writer i think hes a very well written morally grey character, as a reader i hate his freaking guts here is the list i literally keep in my notes of why i hate him.
he broke into her room who knows how many times when she was a little girl (idc if he had REASONS its FREAKING WEIRD)
he asked Sophie to meet him (a grown man) on a island alone and when she took Keefe with her he told her she had to come in the cave with him alone
he just about left Dex for dead in the Neverseen hideout and only brought him because Sophie refused to go without him. Dex was a innocent child. Dex wasn’t just anyones child he was a member of the collectives child someone who he worked with side by side for years, and he was still willing to leave him behind (he later said he was going to back for him but like...)
Dex ended up with scars because he didn’t bring enough elixirs for him.
he thinks of Sophie as an accomplishment and doesn’t expect her to want him to think of her as anything more (Everblaze, Page 447.)
he calls her his moonlark. which sounds sweet until you realize that’s her project code name he’s literally calling her “my creation” aka “my weapon”
he will act very cryptic and only give out bits of information, just enough that she will look into what he was talking about then act proud and flatter her, saying things like “i underestimated you kids” when she and her friends figure out the thing he wanted her to know.
he will tell her about problems in the world making it sound horrible and hopeless, then saying "this is the thing we made you to fix, but that’s your choice"
he’s constantly switching from dehumanizing her because she is the Moonlark and it’s her job to change things and this is what she was created for. then treating like his child at the drop of a hat
excludes her parents from the conversations and tells her she has control over her life, not them, like she isn’t a young teen
he told a fourteen year old that if he and the rest of collective died Sophie and her friends would take their place, not care about what kind of pressure that would put on her. then admits to grooming Sophie and her friends to lead the Black Swan one day
he is constantly reading her mind and never lets her have her thoughts to herself but expects her to not read other peoples minds.
he put all this importance on Prentice and told a child that they where going to use her to brake into prison and almost got another child killed who didn't even need to be there (they could have done that without her they have dwarves)
finds it funny to exclude Sandor from conversations that could potentially put her in danger
had Sophie recruit other children, which is disturbing, because fine they don’t have a choice if she’s in danger but putting other children in danger and taking on missions is completely unnecessary, he could have done it himself or had adults do it.
Ignored tam being taken by the neverseen, and told them to focus on other things
Not to mention he basically took advantage of Emma Foster's health issues, knowing full well he'd be taking her child away from her and her husband at a later date. Sophie's human parents were done so dirty, and all they wanted to do was let her be a kid for as long as possible
#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#he makes a very good victor frankenstin#sophie foster#project moonlark#kotlc black swan#thanks for the ask!#Secret messengers
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“Remember that I am thy creature; I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel, whom thou drivest from joy for no misdeed. Everywhere I see bliss, from which I alone am irrevocably excluded. I was benevolent and good – misery made me a fiend. Make me happy, and I shall again be virtuous."
- Frankenstein, Mary Shelley 
@crymeariveronceagain asked me to draw Sophie crying over that Frankenstein quote, so here it is!!
@stopstealingtomatoes @kale-of-the-forbidden-cities @winterfireice @the-one-and-only-aroace @honey-the-dinosaur-ate-our-kid @xanadaus @fr3akteenager @official-kenralie-fanbase
#i really need to to get past chapter two of frankenstein#it’s not like i can’t i just haven’t#sophie foster#kotlc sophie#project moonlark#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc fandom#black swan#kotlc fanart#sophie foster fanart#kotlc sophie fanart#my art#frankenstein
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another cool kotlc au idea
mr forkle actually created project moonlark to try and merge sophie's abilities so he can bring back his dead lover (which ever one said that they had a lover once)
never told the other twin or anybody else
not even sophie
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power is SUCH a vague word what tf are you talking about ever shannon. what are you saying. revoking her right to use that word
#kotlc#kotlc stellarlune#sorry i was rereading a few scenes and she just. KEEPS saying power as if it makes ANY sense and I’m like!!! it does not :D!!#‘ she /needed/ that power’ TF ARE TOU ON ABOUT POWER IS SUXJ AN ABSTRACT CONCEPT#you could be saying ANYTHING#smacking this book#also noticed another quirk of Shannon’s that isn’t like. a bad thing. but i think she overuses perhaps a little#it’s all the ‘something something something…..reveal’ things she does#like ‘could project moonlark be…a fail?’#‘looks like the power source….is fake’#like brooo#c’mon#it’s obviously jumping to conclusions for dramatic effect but like. we KNOW they’re jumping to conclusions so it doesn’t quite land#at least for me#maybe i wouldn’t mind so much if I was a younger reader#or if Shannon used it a little less#because it feels like she does it a lot#anyway
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kotlc relics we all collectively forgot about
the fork man song
keefe betrayed everyone and we are all dead inside
the deadric meme
the dexvolution
does biana vacker is gay?
that fucking __A___A__ teaser for the flashback title that everyone filled in with shit like “beanfeast” and “meatloafs”
i feel like every single post casey ever made was a fucking relic
someone else PLEASE add on I can’t be the only one haunted by these
#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc#kolc#fork man#keefe betrayed everyone and we are all dead inside#deadric#dexvolution#does biana vacker is gay#project-moonlark
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you like kotlc?
Yep! I think that the story is really interesting overall. And the concept of this world that is completely hidden from us is soooo intriguing, and the fact that there are so many things that we just don't know because Canon (Sophie) doesn't know either is really fun! It also provides a lot of opportunities for fanfic to be made for it, just fan content in general. It's like how I have a few ideas for heavily canon divergent AU's for it. I've also seen some really good fan content as well!
So yes. I very much do like KOTLC.
#anon#anon ask#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc#i kinda went on a tangent there#whoops!#but keeper is something i sort of imprinted on#it's always in some corner of my brain giving me ideas#of course a lot of those are short fics that include hurting the characters in certain ways#but... what can ya do?#but then you also have the long-fic ideas that get put on the backburner for my other longfics#but i have one au idea where fitz gets lost in the human world and is “missing” in the elven world or declared dead#i haven't decided which one yet#and somehow he ends up befriending sophie and realizing that she's the moonlark#(because hello! humans project their thoughts!!! sophie /doesn't/)#and i can't help but think of sophie finding comfort being with fitz because his thoughts aren't loud. she can't hear them#which depending on their ages would either really comfort her or freak her out#and then another fic idea where sophie isn't super trusting of people in general because the human world SUCKS#and so she's a lot slower to befriend anyone or trust them in general. like if she got the note telling her to bottle the stuff-#-she's just be like. Fuck no. because the human world sucks and it has made her so incredibly cautious and just#ahhh#yeah can you tell that this stuff just sits in my brain?
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Hey guys
What the actual frick
Like I just got to thinking how messed up project moonlark is
Like I've thought it was before but it just REALLY sank in
Like I gwt that their were good intentions behind this but...
You're trying to tell me that forkle decided
"Hey let's make a whole life and give her crazy powers so she can correct our world"
Ignore the fact that they were planning to wait until she was older to bring her the the lost cities
How messed up is that to do that and rip her away from the people she knows and loves without her getting a say
And not give her the information she asks for about HER life and HER memories that were stolen from her
And then you just expect her to go along with this
"You have a say in this" MY ASS
She doesn't
Whether it's intentional or not that's guilt tripping her into it cause that's the whole reason she was born
And she feels like if she can't do it she was created for nothing and is useless
Idc how much firkle denies
Sophie was created to be a weapon
But she shouldn't
She's just a kid who needs a break
And then people who don't understand the pressure of the whole reason she was born get upset when she tries to make a stand for herself (like the storehouse)
JUSTACE FOR SOPHIE FOSTER
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Does anybody ever think about how Sophie was never able to develop herself as a person outside of her role as Project Moonlark because of all her burdens and responsibilities? She had likes and dislikes and things she enjoyed when she was still living with her human family but when she went to the lost cities, she was never given the opportunity to know herself. She doesn't really know what she likes in the elvin world, only what she's good at. Before you know it, almost her entire life has revolved around taking down the Neverseen and she never had the chance to find out who she really is.
#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc sophie#sophie kotlc#kotlc keefe#keefe kotlc#sophie foster#keefe sencen
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do you have a evil version of project moonlark or smth
When we first heard the name Project Moonlark, we assumed it was about an actual moonlark and set about making our own version. Moonlarks are pretty hard to obtain, though, so we used geese instead. We couldn't figure out how to give them elvin special abilities, but we did successfully teach them to hold a knife and use matches.
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Ariadne Varil: Ariadne is a former/partially retired Council informant who grew up as part of the nobility. After going to exillium on an assignment as a coach she fell for an actual coach. Ensue a messy breakup as her intentions are revealed which she’s still not over @an-ungraceful-swan
Samantha Daniels: Mirrored Conflicts AU character. Samantha is a theater kid, a girl's girl, and chronically done with Keefe's drama. Amy couldn't ask for a better best friend. @myfairkatiecat
If you have the time and will, read the characters' full descriptions before voting! Simply click on their names above.
PROPAGANDA:
Ariadne:
None submitted
Samantha:
She knocked Ruy out with a punch to the face. She also pretended to be a Black Swan operative to random unsuspecting foxfire kids to get a message to Sophie. She also told the Neverseen that she was Project Mockingjay, another version of Project Moonlark, to make them scared of her, before she and Amy go crazy and then Samantha tells them they just got taken out by two human teenagers. She’s also constantly making fun of Keefe and Sophie’s drama, like if Ro was actually funny. She’s so much fun.
Propaganda can be submitted here and will be included in the next round!
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elves should be fundamentally than humans in more ways than just all of their eyes being blue and their abilities, there should be little things that make humans go
“there’s something diffident about that them, something wrong, something not human” but they can never put their finger it
that’s the true reason that Sophie was treated like an outcast, not because she was a smart and nerdy twelve year old, but because there was wrong about her in ways she was completely unaware of and that the humans around her couldn’t understand.
when she’d walk it looks like they are almost floating on air, when they run they seem to fly and when she’d jump they stay in the air just a little to long. when she’d swim the water seems to move with her, she can stay underwater long enough to make you think she’d drowned. butterflies will land on her more often than they should, and she could find where the birds are singing from without any thought. she could find the prettiest rocks in the rivers ones that sparkle like precious jewels.
her existence makes humans uncomfortable, and they can’t understand why, all they know is whatever they’re looking at can’t be completely human, and it terrifies them because the unknown is something we have learned to fear.
Sophie should have noticed Fitz because it was the first time she saw someone who just was different, someone who acted just a little wrong, someone like her.
when she got to the lost cities she thought she would finally stop feeling like an other.
but she didn’t.
her eyes are the wrong color and glow red when she’s upset, she will finish her mentors sentences when they are teaching her history of her new world that she should never known, her mental strength is too much for someone her size, she can understand animals in ways she shouldn’t, she can read their minds at any time and they would never know it, she’s a weapon in the body of a child
her existence makes Elves uncomfortable, and they can’t understand why, it terrifies them because the unknown is something we have learned to fear.
#kotlc#kotlc headcanons#sophie foster#kotlc sophie#project moonlark#well it’s been a hot second since i’ve written something like this#this was inspired by a conversation with my brother Rueben#kotlc fanfic
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okay hear me out aGaIn-
re-reading the kotlc graphic novel rn (i finished neverseen on a train and didn't have lodestar ):) and i was like-
in the gethen scene, what if forkle wasn't there?? like, what if gethen did grab sophie and get away?
what if the neverseen swayed her to their side, making her believe in evil??
like imagine project moonlark completely backfiring
#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#sophie foster#gethen kotlc#gethen ondsinn#wtf is that surname gethen
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this “theory” has been bouncing around in my head like the dvd screensaver logo for about 6 months now
So calla helped with project moonlark but she also helped make a bunch of sleep plants and stuff right?
calla is almost exactly the Telugu word for dream…
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Had Sophie stayed in the human world until she was older like the Black Swan planned for her to, do you think their experiment would have worked?
They want her to bring change to the human world, but an elf raised as a human being who came to the Lost Cities as an adult would have incredibly hard time adjusting or taking the Black Swan seriously for reasons that I think are fairly obvious. She would have had a life, with friends and family in the human world. Then they would require her to sever all of those relationships because they want her to bring change to a world that she did not even know existed. Once she got to the Lost Cities, she would have incredibly hard time integrating to the different clothes, food and culture. Once she got past those hurdles, she would have to work incredibly hard to be taken seriously. She would be a grown woman that no one in the Lost Cities is connected to, who is advocating for change in a world that she has no connection to. I am thinking of real life equivalents of this, like a child being raised in Russia, who only speaks Russian and thinks of themselves as Russian, is brought to the United States as an adult to tackle American social issues. They do not understand American social issues and it will take a long time before they do. Exchange the word Russia for human, Russian for human world and United States for Elvin world. Her credibility would be very low in this scenario, as she would struggle to get people to hear her thoughts on issues especially because she is not impacted by these problems. Moreso, she would view herself as a human being and would ultimately defend humans and even betray the elves if she felt the elves were going to harm humans.
Ultimately, the Black Swan would not work out. They would bring her to the world of the elves, use her for a different perspective then bring her back to the human world. Then, there is the problem of her abilities and lifespan. Would they leave her with her abilities and do nothing to do with them? Would they leave her, an immortal being, in the human world to spend the rest of her life with people who live quickly and die quickly? That is an interesting way to handle things.
There are so many ways the plans of the Black Swan could have gone wrong.
That depends on what you consider "working" for Project Moonlark. If we're going solely with the goal of bringing a new perspective to the Lost Cities, that still would've been achieved; she still would've been raised with the same human mindset that the Black Swan was looking for. If we're going with the goal for her "to be something new", then she still would've been that.
I personally don't think the problems you're suggesting would be too different from how it is now in the series. Perhaps they waited until Sophie was in her 20s or 30s, before people could notice she wasn't aging, but that's still so small compared to the elven lifespan. That's hardly a difference to their world and those who've lived in it for centuries.
Sophie now still had a hard time adjusting (and is still adjusting, over 2 years later), she had friends and family that she had to sever ties with, she's not used to the clothing and culture--though she has gotten used to the food for the most part. I think almost everything you're proposing isn't unique to an adult Sophie, it's the same as she's going through as a young teen.
I do think you make a good point about having no connections, though. The elven world is incredibly isolated, and she wouldn't have the connections or circle she does without being adopted and going to school, both things that only happened because she's a kid. However, I do think that could be compensated for via connections in the Black Swan. She wouldn't have as much exposure outside of them, but she wouldn't be completely on her own. However, that does also mean there's no easy way for other people to learn about her and hear about her the way there is now, but there could be gossip that makes her more known, people just wouldn't first learn of her at school as her peers.
Based on my understanding, I think the biggest problem they'd encounter is Sophie herself. She goes along with other people's suggestions and submits to certain authority because she's a kid, because she doesn't have the same sway as an adult. Her parents can tell her to do things and discipline her, the Black Swan can partially shut her out and guide her citing her youth. Adult Sophie would be an adult. Redundant statement, I know, but my point is she would be more on their level. She'd have more autonomy, be more individual. Even as unaware as she is, she's more equal. She doesn't have to listen to what people tell her, she doesn't have to do what they say. She's an adult who can do what she wants for her own reasoning. So the Black Swan would have to truly work with her more to cooperate.
However, at a certain point she doesn't have a choice in the matter. She has abilities, she doesn't quite fit in the human world (though in both cases she still sees herself as more human), the Black Swan can hold info over her head (like her parents/origin), etc. She's tied to them and I think would always end up with them and in the elven world.
The way I see it, Project Moonlark still would've worked, it just would've played out differently. Different people in her life, different setting, different dynamics between her and others. But ultimately the core of it the same. Her being a child is crucial to the story as we know it, but not crucial to Project Moonlark. Even if she prefers humans, she's not going to turn a blind eye to elven problems and ignore everything. Her age isn't a huge factor in the project on its own, so a lot of the details (leaving her life behind, struggling to adapt, etc.) are ubiquitous!
#kotlc#kotlc character analysis#sophie foster#quil's queries#thepinkdove#long post#this is of course just my interpretation and opinion. it's not set in stone or anything#I just don't really think at the core of it all it'd be that different#the premise and execution is pretty much the same regardless of age#so I think it would have the same impact. or at least similar enough to not be too noteworthy#but I don't think the black swan and project moonlark wouldn't have worked if she was older#that's how it was intended to work#perhaps sophie would've been more like the black swan if she didn't have that sort of teenage rebellion thing going on#and their progress would've been slower#who knows! i can't say exactly how it would've played out#anyway i should stop before i ramble forever :)
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Calla by @hydroflxwers
Jolie Ruewen by @camelspit
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Calla:
"Calla is a positive depiction of motherly love that stands out to me among the many we see in media. And I know that, in fandom, our hackles tend to raise at the word "mother" being applied to a female character, but her motherhood is an intrinsic part of her character. She was the part of Project Moonlark that helped them remember they were talking about a real human person--that's canon! And it SHOWS. She created a new breed of flower just to help Sophie sleep. She taught Sophie her special recipe and only asked that she pour it into the ground for her sometimes. And that doesn't even get into the fact that she gave up her life in order to save her species from slavery. VOTE CALLA!!!" (anonymous)
Jolie Ruewen: None
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Sophie… :((( she cares about her friends so much UHGHAHGA
Although…I feel like that’s one of her major flaws (now correct me if I’m wrong I haven’t read the books in a hot minute) She cares TO much that she starts pushing them away keeping them from the stuff thats happening and that’s important because she wants to protect them, it’s not that she thinks there weak far from it actually (she probably thinks there stronger then her mental and physical) she just doesn’t want to see them hurt, she doesn’t care if SHE gets hurt as long as it’s not someone she loves. So she pushes them away from this stuff which causes a rift (like in nightfall with her and Dex) and I thinks that’s a flaw of hers I don’t thinks she realizes just how far her friends would go for her if she just let them join her. And I feel like this mentality got worse when she found out she was project moonlark. She feels that it her responsibility to lead (even if it’s not necessarily what she wants) and to take the fall to be the one hurt or in trouble…I honestly feel like Sophie wouldn’t necessarily care if she died if it meant her loved ones livening, (I don’t thinks she actually wants to die I just think if it came to it) (although I don’t she could make herself because she believes she’d be letting everyone down because she’s the moonlark she’s supposed to be the leader)
Anyways that’s all :3 these are just my opinions and what I think what’s your thoughts on it ? :0
#I love her so much bro :(( she deserves so much better#SHE JUST A GIRL#my daughter Iove her very much even with all her flaws#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc#kotlc sophie#sophie foster#kotlc fandom#kotlc thoughts#kotlc discourse#kotlc theories#kotlc angst#kotlc spoilers
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