#pro punkflower

[punkeropercyjackson]

I hate enemies to lovers Punkflower literally so fucking much,the whole reason Miles and Hobie work so good together is how nice they are to eachother and how nonexistent their beef was despite the setup.When you turn it into an antagonistic relathionship even non-toxically they're not even Miles and Hobie anymore,that's Miller and Horace

[spenceirl]

Fucking exploads

(I can’t draw hands :b

[theautisticcentre]

Also i saw one of them racist male Gwen/Miles shippers who hates Flowerbyte say Hobie would've definitely visited Miles between Itsv and Atsv and i don't think he realized how shadey to Gwen that is😭

YEAH

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[bellamer]

Something something, Punkflower Antis who take a quote about Hobie's age out of context and accuse Punkflower shippers of being pro shippers comes from a root of anti blackness and the adultification of black male teens who are considered adults as soon as the hit a growth spurt and happen to be tall and the fact that this shit only happens when the ship contains two black male characters.

Like hes probably 17 at the most and y'all are over here claiming he's like 25-26, y'all are sick.

And the fact that no one batted an eye when it was implied that he and gwen might have had a thing or Miles' mom being suspicious of Gwen's age because of the "she looks old enough to vote" comment proving my point that if Hobie was white and voiced by idk Benedict Cumberbatch y'all would not give a fuck

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[tikiki05]

Quick question

You made a blog about the adults of ATSV in a drag show a while ago and included Hobie there

https://www.tumblr.com/tikiki05/757751143598342144/rating-the-atsv-adults-based-on-how-i-think-theyd?source=share

However, you've been recently reblogging blogs about Punkflower, which is Hobie x Miles

I'm NOT bringing this up to try and accuse you of anything, rather to just ask you which side of the Hobie age argument you currently are (teenager or adult) to just be sure of your stance on it

Have a good day!

Hi! Thanks for the ask and the clarification!

Hobie is a character who I’m not super heavily interested in, though in all honesty I really wish I was more into him because he’s awesome lol, so I’m not too sure where I stand on the age thing really. But as for punkflower and the reblogs I did, I mainly reblogged those because I liked the general ideas they presented and the artwork. Also, being anti-ghostflower, I’m like casually pro any of the popular Miles ships that aren’t ghostflower if that makes sense. Petty yes I’m fully aware lmao.

So tldr I guess I’m just sort of neutral on the age thing if that’s a stance to have?

Hope you have a nice day too and thanks again!

[ihatemisinformstion]

I hate TikTok so much you have no idea how much I hate it they hear one little thing out of context and then they suddenly say it’s canon hurting like half of there own community because they hate queer black people for some god awful reason I don’t even know about the micro aggressions or the fact that people think HOBIE x miles is a proship I will say this once and I will say this again I will LIGIT clear everything on hobie having a canon age because he does not. And I’m tired of people on TikTok and anywhere else saying the same thing and I might change this into my second acc just for flowerpunk and I’ll actually put my name but I’m not gonna cause I don’t wanna have this turn into a big thing if they do confirm he’s over 18 but anyways I’m going to give all my points cause I think people see something and they automatically think it’s true

To the people saying he's 19/20 that was a director talking about his concept design and could be more based on the comics it's safe to assume that Sense another director said it's up for interpretation and Gwen said he's about her and miles age then he's most likely a teen below 18 and was aged Down for the movie and it's kinda obvious because he hangs around the teen squad don't litsen to the misinformation everyone is sayin as well as the clip that people are talking about is completely out of context and so I need you to all stop it!! I’m not even an adult and I despise pro shipping it’s one of the things that triggers me into things it’s weird and it’s weird your putting a silly ship into this horrible topic so many think it’s ok to put in because the age is unconfirmed half of you people just don’t like queer black people and I am one so for the love of god stop calling people proshippers when they view hobie as a kid!!!

Phil Lord who's also a director said it's up to interpretation/headcanon plus even likened him to Sex pistols who started off young. Alsp like I said the whole Gwen and Hobie implied/jokes about being together thing would be weird as f https://twitter.com/sillyabtspiders/status/1666405777009958913?t=ct4kf0PoYIeUHwsP3tsHDQ&s=19

Of course there’s the other video but again that is concept hobie and prowler hobie not even the hobie we See as well as HOBIE is Most likely aged down and based off teen hobie stop bringing it up because it doesn’t matter!!! I’m literally so upset with being called a proshipper and such and it’s actually really stupid that I have to fight on this because everyone other ship is fine except when there both black and queer it’s weird to how much people care and I’m so tired I’m so very tired of it. I literally cannot take it anymore it’s weird you people are just as weird I’m just so upset right now and by the way I’m writing you probably have already seen me post a bit on my main but it’s embarrassing how you all cling to one thing

I feel great comfurt in this ship I do with a lot of dynamics and I don’t even ship punkflower hard I just think it’s cute but the way you people look at soemthing and think “wow proshipper” is insane because eTHATS NOT WHAT IT IS IM SORRY ITS NOT IT MAKES ME SO FRUSTRATED and I can’t tell if it’s cause I’m getting hyper fixated on this or what but I hate when this happens because wir causes so many people stress for no reason but your stupidity

Unless every single director comes out and says that HOBIE is older than 18 and not with Gwen and miles I will delete this and actually admit to it ok I’m not unreasonable I’m angry but that wouldn’t make sense because why would they tease romantic relationship as well as having hobie be with the minor coded charachters all the time

IM SO SORRY IF YOUR STRESSED BY THIS BECAUSE IM THE SAME I JUST FEEL LIKE WE WILL NEVER WIN and it’s so AKWARD I seriously hope that this whole situation gets cleared up and people will be able to ship and have there family dynamics and I’m sorry for anyone who doesn’t wanna see discourse just wanted to finally clear everything up because I know it stresses me out so I can’t imagine how other people feel

[punkeropercyjackson]

As someone who's very enthutiastically into Spiderverse/Pjo/DC crossovers,i find it so laughable there's huge subsets of the Atsv fandom that unironically think shipping Hobie and Miles and saying Gwen is canonically a trans girl is 'problematic','annoying' and even 'overrated'.Nothing Punkflower stans and tfem Gwen lovers come up with can be more demented than y'all having breakdowns because it was confirmed Percy Jackson aka the 18 year old children's book series protagonist isn't attracted to the serial pedo fascist she spent 5 books fighting or her millenia old mentally middle aged relatives that used her as a martyr ever since she was 12 yet denying she's a trans woman despite all evidence and making up conspiracy theories on how Batman is actually a kiddy fucker who only adopts kids to fill an old time-y gay and antisemitic stereotypes quota

[chilewithcarnage]

punkflower is not a pro ship, hobie is not an adult

y'all love running with misinformation and hate seeing two black boys together and just want an excuse to fuck on a fictional teenager

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[aaronymous999]

Seeing two posts on my dash both different arguments for Hobie’s age-

It’s so funny because if you’re curious about my opinion? Uncomfy with his sexualization because eh even if he is an adult he’s still pretty young but idk most people I see doing this are fellow teenagers which is a lot different than a 30 year old making that content which I don’t see often. ( If you’re curious- to me I don’t consider someone a pro-shipper if the character is ageless and they headcanon them as an adult, because headcanons are valid! )

Not gonna tag this because I know people are gonna yell at me but ageless characters are- ageless. And the creators of ATSV are purposely koi and contradictory about his age so idk. I *personally* headcanon Hobie in the 17-18 range because I’m about Miles’ age and most of my friends in High School are around that age because I go to a small school with mixed grades in classes. Fandom discourse is wild to me sometimes because a lot of people forget that everyone can have different headcanons and people keep cherry picking info just because they like a ship and want their opinion to be correct. I don’t label myself an anti-shipper because I don’t agree with a lot of the ideas there ( mainly the idea of thinking all media that just includes a horrible person is inherantly condoning it, you can write abusive relationships in a negative write people tone and connotation exists :) ) but generally I think it’s weird and gross to *want* to ship two siblings or fuck a character who is 15 years old. But this whole Hobie Brown situation doesn’t fall under that for me because his interpretation is vastly different depending on what you ship and what kind of person you are. If you are a Punkflower shipper and see him as just a year or so older than Miles? Great! Awesome! If you ship Noir and Hobie and therefore headcanon him to be Noir’s age? Cool that’s awesome! If you ship yourself with Hobie and headcanon him to be your age? Cool!!

Literally could not care less ( especially because I read Hobie as aro- ) just please stop fighting about it and if you don’t like something or don’t agree with a headcanon just don’t interact with it.

Imo I feel like people should be complaining about a lot worse stuff in the fandom, like for example how people fetishize Miguel or Hobie’s race instead because that’s weird and stop doing that. Or the misogynoir against characters like Jessica and Margo. Idk it just bugs me that this is a bigger issue to people than the sexualization of characters who are actually confirmed to be minors like Miles, Gwen, Pavtir, Margo, etc. Idk the Hobie stuff makes me enjoy the movie less and I just wanna enjoy the movie. Will probably post more cute headcanons I have to cleanse the brain :3

[diinosaurz]

you do know that hobie is a minor right and that punkflower isnt proship

I thought Hobie was an adult, sorry!!! I just heard from friends and on social media posts the ship was a Pro-ship!!! I'm sorry for my miss understanding!!! I'll probably repost removing that!!! I just heard from people Hobie was 19 or 20 and didn't think twice about checking!!!

[bellamer]

I can finally rest after fighting the good fight.

Hobie Brown is a confirmed teenager and Punkflower fans have fucking won.

We can rest. It’s our victory. We fought hard after being falsely accused as pro shippers. The “Hobie is an adult” people can now forever shut the fuck up and the people who desperately wanted him to be an adult just for the sole reasons of sexualizing him can die. They’re still scrambling like “Maybe he’s 18 or 19 so it’s okay !” Nope shut the fuck up he’s been confirmed to be a teen and is referred to as a young boy, he’s 17 at the most.

He’s a teenager. He’s a boy. Pardon me while I praise dance.

[lesbiansupersons]

HOBBIE!!!! oh gosh as much as I'm excited for him why do I feel like Sony is gonna do the two dudes fighting over the girl with hob, miles, and gwen? I want punkflower and gwen with her Mj... OR gwilart? (Gwenxmilesxhobart with pros gwen and hob looking after their newbie boyfriend)

GOD I HOPE THEY DONT GO THAT ROUTE, PLEASE,,,,,,,,,,,,,i cant.

i;d love to see the three just kinda chill and be great friends. especially since hobie has HUGE respect over gwen. i doubt sony would even go to that direction bc they are cowards

but ot3 tho??? sign me UP

[punkeropercyjackson]

What i hate about anti Punkflower points is literally all of them also apply to Ghostflower but nobody has a problem with them then.'The age difference is weird!'It's two years and they're both minors and in the comics Gwen was older than Miles too and in the movies she actually emphasized their age difference in regards to romance,even if it was a joke.'Hobie is a mentor to Miles!'So was Gwen in Itsv.'They're brothers-coded!'Miles and Gwen have multiple parallels to explicitly platonic pairs from other media,like Aang and Zuko and Dipper and Wendy but also nobody even called Miles and Hobie brotherly in the production or in promo stuff.'Not everything HAS to be about romance!'Atsv was deadass called 'a love story between Miles and Gwen' when it was announced and most Punkflower shippers turn Gwen and Miles into platonic m/f rep specifically to avoid amatonormavity.And i'm not even anti Ghostflower,i just think Punkflower is a better ship and i'm willing to respect the reverse opinion even if i disagree but y'all don't spare Punkflower stans the same grace yet expect it from us and get pissy when we don't let you walk all over us over fucking Spiderverse ships.Punkflower means a lot to black queer Spidey fans and y'all on some nonblack entitlement issues treating us like this isn't our franchise to begin with or like you're owed a Ghostflower endgame over well-written black characters and using being unable to use google to make yourself feel morally superior for it