#pro clerith

[lamxd99]

It's my 1-Year Anniversary on Tumblr 🥳

I'm gonna be real with yall, I had honestly forgotten that I downloaded Tumblr a year ago until I got a notification reminding me just an hour ago 😅

Interesting that my first (and unplanned) post on tumblr is for my 1 year Anniversary 😂

I might consider posting more on Tumblr, but we'll just have to wait and see 😉

But anyways, here are the Tags I love:

[dutchdread]

Hi, I'm sorry if this question has been answered before, but what are your views on the whole Cloud not answering Tifa when she asks if he loves her. I'm not entirely sure where it's from, sorry.

Sure, it might have been asked before, I know I've answered it before, but I've talked about this subject in many places so it might not have been on Tumblr. Either way, the question doesn't bother me, it's a good question since people bring it up a lot, so having a chance to reiterate the answer isn't a bad thing. The scene you're talking about is from the short story: " On the way to a smile - Episode Tifa". Like with all these supposed rebuttals to Cloti this argument fails when you look at the situation honestly for more than two seconds, and is actually Pro-Cloti. Firstly, this argument suffers from the same problem that I brought up a while back in my article concerning "the most misunderstood quote in the LTD". Namely that for this argument to make sense you already have to admit that Cloud and Tifa are in a relationship. There is not a person on earth who would walk up to random friends in the middle of the night and wake them up to ask them whether they love them. The scene is framed as Tifa being in Clouds bedroom, and since Tifa is never mentioned to go to his room and Cloud seems to not be surprised about her being there Occams razor will tell you the most likely reason she's in his room is because they're sleeping together. So even if we look at this situation in the most pro-Cleriths way possible then we still already have a situation where Cloud and Tifa are in a relationship, because only in a relationship does it make sense to talk about relationship issues. And since the very notion of stories is to have a resolution we can also surmise that by the end of the story these relationship issues are in some way fixed, either by them going their separate ways, or them working it out. And since we've discussed the nature of the issues Cloud is facing in depth on this page and have discussed how they are resolved, we know the answer to these questions. The issues are resolved by Cloud returning to Tifa and the children, as has been explicitly stated by the developers.

Inside, I felt one thing was for sure: Cloud and Tifa would be together. Everybody would be back home where they belonged. ~ Nojima - Reunion files - pg. 70

Let me stress this again, the most PRO-Clerith version of this argument has Tifa and Cloud being in a relationship and working it out by the end. And in reality it's even more pro-Cloti than that. The very fact that Tifa is concerned about Cloud not loving her implies that him loving her is in some way the standard. It's not that Tifa and Cloud are friends and it's going so well that Tifa is wondering "wait, does he maybe like me more as just friends? does he perhaps....LOVE me?" no, the implication is that the accepted state of affairs is that they were two people in love, and that she is now questioning whether that's actually the case. Now note that Tifas insecurities by themselves mean nothing. Tifa can be extremely jealous of Aerith and completely convinced that Cloud is depressed because he actually loves another woman, and yet be completely wrong about that, as is clearly the case. Whatever insecurities Tifa might reasonably have, they're pretty clearly shown to be false by the sub-sequent events of Advent Children and all the quotes surrounding it. We know the reason Cloud was depressed, we know the reason he left. As I have discussed in depth here: "why does Cloud think about Aerith if he's not in love with her" as well as on other articles. In short, Cloud is depressed because of Cherophobia, PTSD, Fear of failure, and guilt, and his ultimate reason for leaving is due to his Geostigma. Tifas romantic worries are shown to be unfounded. Concerning the scene itself, a lot of people pretend that Cloud doesn't answer Tifa, that is incorrect. Cloud is asleep when Tifa asks the quote. When this wakes him Tifa changes the question to "do you love Marlene". The reason she does this is most likely because she's scared of the answer, she chickens out and instead of repeating the question, which he missed on account of BEING ASLEEP, she changes it to something less directly threatening to her heart, "do you love Marlene". The most important thing to note is that Cloud answers in the affirmative, he DOES love Marlene. Most importantly, this answer also serves as an answer to "do you love me?", either because Cloud straight up heard Tifa (I don't think he did, but some people pretend he did) and is answering her indirectly, or because this is how you use storytelling to provide an indirect answer to the viewer. The scene illustrates, in general, that Clouds issues are not due to a lack of love. There is a different problem, what is that problem? Well, I've already provided you with a link showing just that. Let me also quickly touch on what happens later on in the short story in general:

Cloud is looking for a way to atone, which he finds through Denzel.

“So the problem was resolved?” Tifa asked. “Which problem?” Cloud responded. “Your problem.” “Oh…” Cloud thought about it. “It’s ok if you don’t want to tell me.” “I can’t really explain it well…” Cloud warned before starting to talk. “The problem isn’t resolved. Well, I never tried resolving it for a long time, I think. You can’t retrieve lost lives.” Tifa nodded silently. “But maybe we can save the lives who are in a crisis just now. Maybe even I can do it.” “You mean Denzel?” “Yeah.” “Hey, do you remember what you said when you brought Denzel here?” “What did I say?” “A lot of things. Even if I opposed it, you would bring him back with you. I could just feel it.” “That…” Cloud was making a face like a kid who thought he would get scolded. “Tell me. I’ll decide whether I’m angry or not after I listen.” Cloud nodded and continued. “Denzel had collapsed in front of Aerith’s church. That’s why I thought Aerith lead him to me.” Saying all that in one breath, Cloud looked away. “You went to the church.” “I didn’t intend to hide it from you.” “You did hide it.” “I’m sorry.” “I’m not saying you couldn’t go. But next time, I’ll go with you.” “I understand.” “And you’re wrong, Cloud.” Cloud was perplexed as he looked at Tifa. “Aerith didn’t bring Denzel to you.” “Ahh, I only thought that…..” “I didn’t mean it that way.” “Aerith brought Denzel to our home.” Cloud gazed at Tifa and finally smiled. __________________________________

This provides further evidence that the issues between Tifa and Cloud weren't due to a lack of love, but were due to Cloud suffering from the guilt of failing to protect Aerith. He doesn't know how to deal with that because this is not something he can take back: "You can’t retrieve lost lives.”. However, he is looking for a way to atone and thinks he's found one by protecting those who are still alive, in this case Denzel. Subsequently his situation with Tifa seemingly improves. But then the story ends with Clouds sudden disappearance, and Tifa wondering if the improvement, and the accompanying smiles, were a lie. The story lets that question linger, it is a cliff hanger, the set-up for Advent Children, advent children is supposed to answer the question, and it does. The answer to the mystery of why Cloud suddenly disappeared when things appeared to be improving, is that he contracted Geostigma.

Cloud never had a candid personality to begin with, and although he started living with Tifa and even started working, he obtained a peaceful living he’s never experienced before, and this conversely made him anxious. And in the midst of this he contracts Geostigma himself, and rather than being able to protect the people dear to him, he instead was forced to face his own death, and so ran away.”-Nojima in AC prologue.

Case closed, Cloti wins again. Like always, whenever you look at any scene in the larger context you come to the conclusion that it perfectly fits the overall story and concepts proposed by Clotis. It's the remarkable coherency of this interpretation that in my opinion is it's best proof. Cleriths propose a very shallow story, they never look deeper than "Clouds actions revolve around romantic love, therefore, every action has to either directly prove romance, or disprove it, there can be no unrelated issues". There is no nuance there, no understanding of deeper concepts. There can't be, because as soon as you try to add those the interpretation falls apart at the seams, you run into a hundred conflicting quotes and a thousand themes that don't fit together or are downright bad. You get stories about a man abandoning sick kids because he wants to die to be with a dead girl, for no other reason than that he knew her for one week and now is obsessed with her. There is no story here, no beauty, no lessons, no morality, just a weird shallow death cult, and the biggest proof that it is a cult is how they can look at a scene like the one you proposed, and delude themselves into actually believing their shallow misrepresentations constitute "a good argument".

[deadbydad]

Clerith and Cloti: Why Both Ships Are Great (Coming From a Clerith Shipper)

Note: Please do not start a shipping war in my comments, I will delete them because that is not what this post is for. This post it to simply give my reasons why both ships are great even if I prefer Clerith over Cloti. I am not hating on Cloti at all in this post, so please do not say that I am.

Clerith and Cloti are the most popular ships in the Final Fantasy 7 fandom, and everywhere I looked, there were always arguments and wars going on.

I will not lie, I have made posts shitting on Cloti and I am not proud of that at all. Taking time away from the fandom and the shipping in general, it gave me time to look at both ships from different perspectives.

Both Cloti and Clerith are amazing and beautiful ships.

While yes I will always love Clerith with my heart, but at the end of the day these two ships are great because of how different they are.

Clerith, in my eyes, is a beautiful ship because of how different Cloud and Aerith are from each other, and Cloti is beautiful because of how similar Cloud and Tifa are.

And both ships aren't perfect, that's a fact, but both are amazing because of their different pros and cons.

Clerith is great because Aerith helps Cloud open up more to people and helps him get out of his comfort one and to try out new things.

Cloti is great because Tifa helps Cloud be more friendly and considerate to others and to give other people a chance even if he doesn't know them.

Cloud and Tifa have a small history while Cloud and Aerith don't and I love that about both ships.

Because Cloud and Tifa have a history they can relate to many things and be able to look at the good things in the past and how they were as children.

Because Cloud and Aerith don't have a history they are able to bounce off of each other and help each other grow with the environment around them.

Does any of this make sense?

I can see why many people love Cloti, I think it's an amazing ship even if I don't personally ship it, and Cloti is just as valid as Clerith is.

Both ships are amazing so why is there a whole war about this? Why do we have to argue about which ship is better when we can just admire how beautifully written they are and how amazingly different they are from each other?

I might start to ship cloti, I might not, I don't know, but I think both ships are great and I love that for them.

Anyway, to the nice Clerith and Cloti fans, I platonically love you and wish you the best in life!

[dojizerker]

ソウルメイトサポート (sourumeito sapotto, Soulmate Support), changed to become Combat Savior in EN.

I posted about Cloud and Aerith having "Soulmate Support" in JP Rebirth before, and how it's definitely intended for a Clerith reading. Here are some screenshots and comparisons.

Above is from JP Rebirth's game itself.

The below are from game8 JP and EN. game8 is a hub for gameplay information, stats and strategies itself, therefore there's no room for subjective and biased documentations like fansites.

The following below is my personal interpretation:

As for why Barret and Nanaki is there, sharing Soulmate Support as well? How do we read this?

By looking at their Gold Saucer date.

Nanaki outright tell Cloud to protect Aerith in his, so having him there can be considered pro-Clerith.

While Barret doesn't pick a name, he likely have an idea who (from observing Cloud's actions and behaviour since Remake) and urges Cloud to make a decision soon. Along with caution to protect your loved one before it's too late (his experience with Myrna).

tldr Barret and Nanaki are Clerith wingmen and cheering for them

Personally, I find it very surprising that JP Rebirth get shipped out with this. It's incredibly bold, when you consider the narrative that supports the Clerith reading.

[silver-wield]

SE sent 2 devs to Saudi who are known to be more pro Aer (clerith maybe)

Um, what? Did this person seriously not hear the obvious cheers from the audience literally every time Tifa was mentioned and spoken about?

How the interviewer admitted that "She (Tifa) is definitely my favorite to play as"?

When the translator said "Since we've (Kitase and Hamaguchi) been here, Saudi people love Tifa", and the audience instantly cheered loudly, meaning that Tifa is, in fact, very beloved and popular in Saudi?

Only for instant literal silence when the interviewer very briefly mentioned the backstabbing corpse?

Where is this BS claim 'Saudi's are known to be more pro Aer / Cler'? I don't trust that Anon, they sound super suspicious

https://x.com/zayana973/status/1824536228898935119

Full official interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yUCjiRkTZ4

^ Boom. Instant evidence to prove this Anon wrong.

You know it's a lie whenever anyone claims articles is more popular or loved than Tifa. She's just not. Who tf would support a rancid two faced back stabbing bitch who throws herself at her friend's love interest every fucking second? Normal people are disgusted by her and that's been reflected in her tanking popularity since rebirth.

They're right about Hama though. He is a dumbass for artih and that's why he's constantly surprised when Tifa's the popular girl and the corpse isn't. Luckily Nojima writes the script, so even if he wanted to do something skanky he can't.

[princess-starscourge]

Feel free to say why you like what you like too!

I’m pro-Cloti because I think it’s cute that they were friends (ish) as children and had mutual crushes on each other that matured into something more as they grew up

[elegantmadness]

Eternal RP Search Not Looking Anymore

As the title indicates, I'm pretty much always on the lookout for some new RP partners! Please keep reading if you might be interested! c;

Basic Info:

I'm (old af) 33 now, so I'm only looking to write with partners 18+. This is non-negotiable.

I default to third person past tense; I'm happy to switch to present tense if that's your preference, but I won't write in first or second person for RP purposes. In the same vein, I can't write with a partner who uses first or second person. Sorry guys!

Expect there to be some NSFW content; I don't fade to black. That said, I'm happy with smut-focused threads or plot-focused ones with NSFW as more of a side feature. Please let me know your limits so I don't step on any toes! Also expect at least some mention/discussion of kinks.

I'll write over email, in gdocs, or on discord. Please do not ask me to join your server/group RP or to RP here on tumblr.

My post length tends to fluctuate from 4+ paragraphs to novella, though I'll never give you fewer than 4 paragraphs. I cannot tolerate one-liners or super short paragraphs; I absolutely want someone who can give me at least 4 paragraphs per character.

My posting frequency can, admittedly, be a little sporadic, though I won't make you wait more than a few days for a reply. Ideally, I'd like a partner who can offer something similar -- 3-5 posts per week. I don't generally do rapid-fire, and if posts get slower than once per week I start to lose motivation.

I tend to prefer m// and m/f pairs, though in certain circumstances I'd be happy to double with f//. I'm also happy to include trans, nb, and characters that otherwise fall outside of the binary.

I will not exclusively write tops for your bottoms, men for your women, or canon characters for your original characters. I am, however, happy to double/triple/write casts/write poly so we can each write what we like.

Fandoms:

Here I'll list all the fandoms I'd be interested in writing; I'm going to keep the info bare-bones to avoid making this post any longer than it already is, but I'll also add in a gdoc link with more comprehensive info. Characters in red are ones I wish to write; if no one's in red, I'm fine with writing any.

Final Fantasy VII (Crisis Core-focused)

I'm only interested in writing/writing with canon characters. Doubling is absolutely on the table, but please note I have zero interest in writing Clerith, Cloti, or Zerith; otherwise, please don't be offended if I have no interest in a pairing you offer.

I could also be potentially interested in including characters from other Final Fantasy games (Squall, for instance, or Lightning). I'm familiar with 7, 8, 10 + 10-2, 12, and 13 (but not 13's sequels).

AGSZC (Angeal | Genesis | Sephiroth | Zack | Cloud polycule)

AGS (Angeal | Genesis | Sephiroth polycule)

Angeal/Zack

Sephiroth/Angeal

Sephiroth/Genesis

Sephiroth/Zack

Angeal/Genesis

SZC (Sephiroth | Zack | Cloud polycule)

Fire Emblem: Three Houses

I'm also familiar with Three Hopes, though, admittedly, I'm not hunting for pairings with Shez or Arval. You're welcome to ask about them if you'd like to double, though! I'm only interested in writing/writing with canon characters.

Characters I'm absolutely not looking to write/write with: Bernadetta, Annette, Marianne, Rhea, Flayn, Hanneman, Constance, Manuela, Petra, Mercedes, Hilda, Ignatz, Raphael, Ingrid, Seteth, Lysithea, Caspar, Hapi, Monica, Leonie, Alois, Cyril

Sylvain/Felix (I'm willing to play Sylvain if you want to play more than one Sylvix thread)

Hubert/Ferdinand (I'm willing to play Hubert if you want to play more than one Ferdibert thread)

Lambert/Rodrigue

Miklan/Glenn

Yuri/Sylvain (I might be inclined to play Sylvain depending on the plot)

Balthus/Yuri

Dimitri/m! or f!Byleth

Claude/m!Byleth

Claude/Linhardt

Star Trek

I'm familiar with TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, AOS, PIC, and PRO. I'm personally looking to write an original character opposite a canon, and while I'm happy to double up I'm fine if you want a canon/canon pair or canon/oc in return.

Please note that I have no real interest in writing characters from TOS/AOS or PRO. I'm also less-than-enthusiastic about PIC, so I'd really like to stay away from those storylines.

I would, however, thoroughly enjoy a more complete crossover of TNG/DS9/VOY (or any of the two).

Please do not ask me to write Chakotay/Seven of Nine.

Data/f!OC

Julian Bashir/f!OC

Hakuoki

I've played through everyone's routes, though I'll probably want to reacquaint myself with whomever you ask for since it's admittedly been a while.

I'm shamelessly asking for poly here, but please don't be alarmed that I'm asking for 4 -- I don't imagine they'll all be played in the same scene often if at all ^^; I will happily write any of the other LIs in return, however!

f!OC/Sanosuke | Saito | Souji | Hijikata

The Wayhaven Chronicles

What I'm looking for here is a little hard to explain, so please bear with me! While I'm not averse to simple doubling, I'd really enjoy a poly or polycule situation with the male love interests (Adam, Nate, Mason, & Felix).

In the case of a polycule, however, I wouldn't want to focus on the romantic/sexual side of things between the boys, though I like the idea of the intimacy and closeness it potentially lends itself to the RP. In such an instance I would absolutely love to write an MC or OC, but I'll happily discuss it and compromise so we're both content!

Touchstarved

I know it hasn't been released yet -- and won't be for quite some time -- but I love the idea of playing in the world. I absolutely want to include all the LIs, and like above would be happy to indulge in poly, simple doubling, or a polycule (to be completely honest, I'm most interested in the polycule here).

I'd even be happy to focus only on the canon characters and not include OCs at all, but I'm glad to include them too. I just really want the opportunity to explore the boys and the world better.

That's pretty much it for fandoms I'm actively searching for, though you're welcome to check my gdoc for more information and for other fandoms I'd potentially be interested in! (Persona 5's in there, as well as some other IF titles and otome!)

If you're interested or have any questions, please feel free to reach out either here on tumblr (through a DM is preferred, tho asks are okay too) or on discord (Resoan#4408). Hope to hear from some of you soon!

[baerchenkoenig]

Disclaimer: Pro Clerith, not out for a shipping war, this is only my personal opinion on the FF7 Remake. Ship whatever floats your boat. (huehuehue)

Also FF7 Remake SPOILERS (duh)

A few days ago I finished the Remake after basically binge-playing it for several days. As I said in a previous post, when I played the original game as a kid I felt that Aerith and Cloud were made for each other. To be honest when I started the game back then I first though that Cloud and Tifa should be a couple in the way a kid sees a lady fancying the hero. But after playing a bit I kinda got the feeling that it was pretty onesided, especially after he met Aerith, for instance that he refused to help Tifa out except for a large amount of money while with Aerith a date was sufficient...or that he was very closed off but with Aerith he actually laughed and had fun. That's why I preferred him with Aerith back then. But enough with the original.

I started the remake blank-faced (if that makes sense) because I successfully avoided any spoilers and didn't know what to expect. Of course I wanted Clerith scenes but I was curious what we would get. I won't draft a whole essay here because 1) English is not my native language and I don't want to offend anyone with my incapability to form accurate English sentences sometimes and 2) I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in such a detailed composition only containing my boring personal opinion and this whole thing is too extensive already.

In the Remake I actually liked Tifa a bit more this time around but she was still pretty unlikeable to me in some parts of the game. Like in the original she kinda forced her attention onto Cloud who seemed pretty unimpressed. The childhood flashback gave me the impression that she wanted to interact with Cloud but would not choose him over her other friends and they weren't particularly close. Cloud sometimes caved in and appreciated her as someone who is dear to him but it didn't feel like a romance. While Tifa was clearly out there for his attention (as was Jessie), he was way more flirty and open towards Jessie even before Aerith came into the picture. Fast forward to the church, Cloud was clearly captivated. He seemed to really enjoy his time with her on the roofs and the further you get into the story the more Tifa slips into the background. I feel like the creators gave their best to make Aerith as gorgeous as possible, her beauty is just unreal to a point where imo Tifa looks plain next to her. (Again, I don't want to bash Tifa, it's just my two cents) Even Clouds jaw drops while he never shows any interest in Tifa. Since I prefer Aerith, I got her scene in chapter 14 but I watched the Tifa one and I saw Cloud comforting a friend, no romance. With Aerith though he looked so soft and he didn't outright refused that he fell in love like he refused several times when he was called "bro". He didn't deny it and that alone said more than any other cutscene ever could. As for the ending, I think and hope that they defeated 'canonverse' and opened up a path where those two can finally be together, because even in the end he is friendly to Tifa but always more concerned about Aerith.

(sorry for the long text even though I could go on and more in depth but well, if I knew how to put that under a cut on mobile I would. Also sorry for any potential spelling errors.)

[beyondaantares]

Clerith Word Alphabet FF7r Edition [6/26] • F is for Floriferous

floriferous (adj.) (of a plant) producing many flowers

[blooming444]

lol even when you choose tifa in the sewers the conversation is still about aerith

[astoryofalove]

As a lesbian myself it’s getting rather annoying that accusation is being thrown around especially since KHIII and the fact that a lot of bad sor*ku shippers cried heteronormativity and how forced sokai is even though that relationship has been building for years. Alas, thats usually the case with people who craft their entire identities around fictional relationships that have no basis in canon. Have your fanfics and your head-canons, just don’t get mad when they aren’t true.

[juliayalokin]

• Clo/Ti saying that they aren't it.

• Clo/Ti that calls out to generic crosstaggers but not to their own friends that do the same thing, most of the time with death wishes for cleriths.

• Clo/Ti hoping the ship war ends, but the first filled with hate for Aerith and Clerith when SE comes up with new stuff.

• Clo/Ti saying that Clerith crosstags too... But without recognizing that: first, 99% of Cleriths don't and DIDN'T, second, Cleriths talks *always* with them saying to erase wrong tags.

• Clo/Ti teaching how to tag, when their respect for others and Tipha herself is tag their artworks with "boobs".

[fairykery]

Imagine Cloud goes to promised land after being happy with Tifa, and they accidentally see Zerith shagging 😭✋🏼

[callmederok]

I FINISHED FF7 ORIGINAL GAME

BLOODY HELL! 

NOW I TRULY UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE SAYS IT’S THE BEST FINAL FANTASY EVER MADE!

i did everything! Golden Chocobo, all the limits, Ultimate, Emerald and Ruby Weapons. Knights of Round Materia, got all the possible materias, level 99 with every character(but Aerith but she dies in CD1...good luck levelling her up at that point without exp plus or without save editors), got the cool submarine, dated Tifa, got all the huge materias at the first try which means that i did Cid’s and Barret’s character arcs, then i did everyone’s character arc, got a huge affection with Tifa so at the end of CD2 i get the most romantic dialogue with Cloud(yeah there are two: if you have less than 50 affection points Tifa is a bit colder, but i had her over 50 so she was so nice and cute) i did bloody everything perfectly!

Okay now that i bragged let’s get serious:

I loved the plot...like seriously i love pretty much every Final Fantasy before FF10 with a few nitpicky exceptions 

But Final Fantasy 7? i love everything of it...i hate the minigames but at the same time love them!

I loved the characters...i can’t really say much bc i enjoyed them at their max...although my party was constantly Cloud + Tifa + Barret(aside from when i was levelling up the characters) only once i had Cloud + Tifa + Aerith willingly: Cosmo Canyon @silver-wield​ i swear Bugehangen(Red’s step-grandfather) makes a long monologue about the lifestream and Aerith doesn’t even speak once! I mean she is the Ancient along with Red/Nanaki but not even a word!

The plot goes as it should but really in the fandom(thanks to FF7R’s fans) the old Clerith vs Cloti shippers is more alive than ever...and i don’t understand the Clerith’s fans...like really Aerith (in the Original Game) is important only in CD1 Cloud met her in Midgar, she goes with him then..she is a background character until Gongaga and it’s only for like 3-4 lines of dialogue...because Zack is her boyfriend then the next important Aerith's scene is in the Ancient Temple close to Mideel, where she translates the ancients’ language inside the Temple, then Sephiroth controls Cloud like a puppet who beats the living hell out of her, Cloud gives the black materia to Sephiroth, she runs away to the Forgotten City(the city of the Ancients/Cetras) she charges the White Materia...and then she dies... 

Then we have a comatose/catatonic Cloud in Mideel, the entire CD2 until like the last ten minutes where only then Aerith is mentioned to be one of the reasons why everyone is fighting (i mean that every single character has a personal reason + avenging Aerith) and this thing is mentioned a couple of times in CD3 and she appears in the ending of the game(post-Final Battle) the same way she appears at the beginning of the game...that’s it.

I don’t hate Aerith, i’m okay with her character and personality...i’m not into her, but i like her in general but really, her death is iconic but not so emotional...she barely has any screen time in the game, i didn’t manage to develop a full emotional connection with her(you know, that thing when you love a fictional character and you feel bad when they’re unhappy or they die), visually speaking that scene is awesome and powerful, but emotionally? Meh! I couldn’t care less i was more concerned for the materias i left on her, if i cried it was because i didn’t know if i would lose all the materias i gave her XDXD

Now we talk about Cloud and Tifa...god, they’ve tons of moments together, they share a past together, they even shared a mental connection together(because they fall in the Lifestream under Mideel and Tifa fixes Cloud’s mind) they shared everything together, same town, many moments in tons of flashbacks, in Crisis Core we really see Cloud all shy and concerned because he feels bad for not being SOLDIER...they share that moments under the Highwind and they spends a day together(somewhere i even read that it’s implied that they do lewd things together at that point, i don’t believe it...probably a few kisses but nothing really lewd...just some hand-holding without gloves...maybe XD)

I’m not saying Aerith is bad for Cloud or else...just they met and spent very little time together and for half of that time Cloud felt guilty and ashamed because he beat her and then almost killed her with the Buster Sword(canonically Cloud never changed weapon in FF7) so imagine the shock of almost killing your best friend's girlfriend with his sword(yeah the sword is Angeal’s but Cloud doesn’t know about that part) after you punched her multiple times, yeah he can excuse himself by saying “Sorry but i was controlled by Sephiroth there is nothing i could do back then so...i moved on” <-- do you really think Cloud is that superficial? Enough to leave Nibelheim promising everything to the girl he likes only to live tons of dramas, almost dying while he saves her. I mean even with his memories mixed up Tifa is the only person in his mind that it’s not changed...like the common thing between Cloud’s persona and the actual events and real memories of Cloud. In the lifestreams(but even in Kalm Town during the first flashback of Nibelheim, and in the flashback about the promise) Tifa is the only thing that never changed inside Cloud’s mind, he has a meltdown(and becomes catatonic) when at the end of CD1 Tifa hesitates about what happened (for real) in Nibelheim...literally Tifa holds so much power over Cloud to literally destroy his mind with some hesitations...it’s scary as hell but in this situation is also nice and cute because it really shows how much Cloud trusts her and takes her in consideration...

i’m dismantling Clerith but guys seriously, Zerith is so much better than Clerith, Zack and Aerith actually spend time together in Crisis Core, Aerith wrote 89 letters over the arc of 4-5 years, still waiting for him, that’s the nice thing, the cute things i love(and i’m about to play Crisis Core soon enough u.u i wanna try it) but seriously, leave Cloud alone...(possibly with Tifa or Barret if you dated him at the Golden Saucer or you like Rabtoon’s parody XDXD) 

Ps: Cloti for me can also be just a friendly relationship...but Advent Children shake its head like “Nope Derok, they’re a couple, don’t try to sugarcoat it for the sake of Clerith’s fans!”

In all honesty, there is not much else to talk about because the rest of the game is so damn good that there are no opinions, interpretations or doubts...the facts around the game are so clear that i don’t think can be verbal wars about stuff...only comments about facts and unchangeable things...XD

[silver-wield]

how can barret be remotely pro clerith if his strongest bond in the group is between him and tifa??? there is no hidden meaning and there’s no other way to interpret it, there’s no way barret is going to screw tifa over (and he knows about her feelings for cloud) because some clown is over there snuggling up to cloud as much as she can. honestly do barret and aerith even have any relationship building moments?? or is she spending every waking moment getting info on cloud and trying to get his attention

Tifa literally used all her savings to put a roof over Barret and Marlene's heads and people think he's talking about that bitch in his GS date with Cloud?

Make it make sense.

Idk, all I've seen is her laughing at him in a sailor outfit and the stupid sunglasses synergy.

[kaylcie]

Coloured version to an earlier sketch!