#post pacifist route

[septic-skele]

H is for "Hope"

“I suppose we can only hope,” Blue murmured.

“Sometimes that’s all you need,” Dream reminded him. “What exactly are you hoping for? Striving for?”

“…My brother. I just want him to be safe and happy.”

“And that’s exactly what you do for him, Blue. You keep him safe, you make him happy. You keep him going. Haven’t you realized by now, with all your belief that those things are possible, you are his hope?” Something bittersweet dawned on Blue’s face at that and Dream couldn’t help but smile in return. “As long as you’re together, I think you’ll be alright.”

[agentravensong]

thinking about how the extra area added on to a pacifist run of undertale, the true lab, is about alphys's past mistakes. how it ends with the story reaffirming that, despite the pain she's caused, the thing that matters is that she has now made the choice to do the right thing. she's still worthy of her friends' love.

thinking about how undertale doesn't expect the player to get a pacifist ending for the first time. how it's more likely than not that the player will kill toriel the first time they battle her, how lots of players don't initially figure out how to end undyne's fight without killing her, etc. what it expects — not even expects, really, but hopes — is that the player, if they care enough, will use their canonically acknowledged power over time to make up for those mistakes.

no matter how many neutral runs a player has done before committing to the pacifist run, the thing that matters to the characters, to the story, is that you've chosen, now, to do the right thing.

compared to alphys, the player honestly gets off lightly, in that you're the only one (other than flowey) who really remembers any harm you might have caused. and any direct guilting the game could have done about it is long past at this point. instead, as undertale often does, it makes its point via parallels: alphys caused harm, and she knows it. she has committed to being better. in doing so, she has unlocked for herself a better ending to her story. and she deserves it. she's forgiven.

those structural narrative parallels are all over undertale, if you know where to look. and that's one of the things that makes it so fuckin' good.

[villowstar]

a little bit of an unfinished short comic about a conversation between flowey and frisk, talking about them both struggling to heal and move on from their past in a post-pacifist route.

[kisiselintihar]

>be me

>forget that undertale yellow is a prequel & by consequence clover is doomed

>final boss fight

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[karmaspidr]

Integrity gets harassed by Monsters.

[jj-gold-falcon]

Here's what's currently my Screensavor on my Computer. A picture of Undyne, depicting her encounter in UT.

I'm Still VERY very proud of this, especially because of the way I chose to seperate the Armor parts By Coloring them Light Grey Blue, Dark Grey Blue, and the Fabric Parts Dark Red, in order to make the Armor Seem less like just a mass of parts.

[guns-blazing]

honestly the biggest evidence that chara idnt actually evil even in the murder route is that even as they kill their best friend they have equipped the massively powerful armor piece of their best friend necklace

[stainedglassthreads]

toriel and papyrus (nonship just to clarify)

Hm.

Toriel asks Papyrus to teach her how to fight. Specifically, how to fight like he does, where he's incapable of ever killing someone if he doesn't want to. She asks this because she remembers her fight with Frisk, where she immediately stops one of her attacks if Frisk runs into her hands, but also due to having some...worrisome nightmares...

After the Barrier is broken, Asgore steps down from his role as King, Toriel takes up her role as Queen again to fill in, and because Toriel talked Asgore out of appointing Frisk to be ambassador, them being much too young for the role, Papyrus just appoints himself Ambassador. Toriel and Papyrus realize they've got more than a few similarities, such as their loneliness and difficulty in connecting with others, how they can both be somewhat overbearing, how they're both rather intelligent. A friendship is struck up, as they both adjust to the role and juggle with both the newly freed monster race who has only just recently resolved to give humanity a chance, and the still-fearful and ignorant humanity.

Papyrus brings Flowey up out of the Underground, and allows him to live with him. He accidentally learns Flowey was once Prince Asriel Dreemurr. There is a series of zany and farcical hijinks as he tries to stop his brother's best friend from learning the true identity of her son.

[hollowwish]

"This game is nuts" what route is he playing lmao. Because each route is an ever increasing and entirely different level of nuts from the others

[fusulyesheep]

I had queen alphys ending brainrot and spent the last one week or so overthinking her outfit as monarch.

ANYWAY here's Alphys design as a queen! I started with the sprite so it would follow something plausible in game and not just something random. Also a sans leak bc im doing him soon

One thing that always bothered me a little is, that when designing queen Alphys most people would go for copying Asgore or Toriel clothes. I understand the logic, "if alphys is the monarch she will have the last monarchs (asgore) clothes" or "if alphys is the queen she will have the last queens (toriel) clothes" as if what they used to wear was mandatory or some code for monster royalty, maybe. But I like to think there's certain things that are tradition (like the color or the deltarune symbol) but Alphys would have her OWN clothes as queen. A little because symbolism. That's what inspired me to create this.

After cut my explanation of all the details I couldn't put in the images itself! WARNING ITS LONG AF

I knew when I started that I wanted to convey who Alphys is in this ending in specific, while keeping characteristics seen both in Asgore and Toriel clothing.

The first thing is that I didn't gave her an armor or crown. I can see Undyne in her ending copying Asgore more and using both of those, since he was like a father figure and she wants to continue his legacy and fight to free monsterkind. Alphys, I believe, would be the opposite. Although she really liked the big guy, we need to reconize that the underground is in SHAMBLES in this ending. It almost a no mercy route. Alphys understands Asgore actions didn't work, and the hope was taken from monsters once again. It was fighting that brought the underground down, killing more humans was not an option anymore. She can't combat violence with violence. That's why the royal guard is dismissed (not that there was any left). I like to headcanon that when she first became queen she couldn't use the crown because she thought it was too much for her become the next "Asgore" and keep his plan (collecting souls from the ones who fall), but she eventually understands she can do things her OWN way.

Likewise, this is also why I didn't keep the cape but gave her a jacket. Capes are used by great kings and super-heros, there's some connection to being "bigger", "stronger" and "heroic" to capes. I can't imagine Alphys seeing herself as some "queen who will save everyone". Again, she takes some time to realize that, but she knows she is just a normal monster, like everyone else, HOWEVER everyone lost friends, family, and hope, and they can't act alone. They need a leader, someone to guide them and give them strength again. YES, she is making decisions, but she is not just "saving" everyone out of nowhere. She is making the plans (WITH HELPPP) so the monsterkind can keep their heads UP. So the long ass jacket is to vaguely remember a cape, but it is Just a Normal Jacket in the end, and it is just this long because Alphys is stills Alphys and she likes to wears baggy clothes that sometimes are kind of "whatever".

The deltarune symbol is still there since I think is just some tradition between the monsterkinds monarchs (same with the shade of purple). It is something culturally and historically important to monsters and Alphys can't just get rid of it. Maybe the meaning of it would change a little, more than what was already changed, since the idea of "savior" or "destroyer" would be kind of lost between monsters. Like, the destroyer has already been to the underground they have to move on, and maybe there'll be no Angel to save them, yknow?

Last I wanna talk about is that my girl IS STRESSEDDD. Is not easy to take leadership in a situation so hopeless like this ESPECIALLY when you were used to hide away, while just... being alone. Her friends, who supported her so much and she loved... they are gone. Asgore is gone. Mettaton is gone. Undyne is GONE....

At least she has Sans tho (THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS AND ALSO WHERE ARE MY QUEEN ALPHYS ENDING SALPHYS TRUTHERS AT????)

Anyway, just to end this already, the summary of what I think are the changes Alphys (with sans) is making:

Making the underground feel more comfortable, tbh. IF there's no hope of escaping, they at least need to learn how to LIVE. and not just "live to see if they can get out one day" NO!! they will create their lives under there, EVEN IF they ave no hope and they lost so many loved ones. They have a lot more focus on making the underground safe also, with lots of new constructions and events sometimes, and the hole from where the humans fell down is monitored 24/7. If someone falls monsters follow the direction of not interacting with it and not start fighting at any circunstancies. The queen, king, and their assistence (it's napstablook, i am a sucker for them and i have Thoughts™) will take care of this.

you can wait for more info dumping from these damn guys coming from me, just wait...

[digital-roots]

Something that STILL infuriates me to this day is how while most youtubers when playing undertale get spoiled and decide to do pacifist first, there was ONE youtuber i watched who played undertale really interestingly (this specific playthrough was also the first i watched)

She killed both Toriel and Undyne, resulting in the King Mettaton ending. Which was so interesting! Its really one of the more horrible outcomes from the neutral endings so when Flowey comes back and tells you to do pacifist, it makes for a more satisfying run!

And then she never fucking finished the game. She stopped playing on the neutral ending.

[pumpkster]

dont talk to me im going through every grief stage <- (finished playing ts!underswap

[ofcore]

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[karmaspidr]

[greetings-inferiors]

The bed in the true lab is honestly so adorable but also heartbreaking. The amalgams are still monsters, they are just deformed beyond recognition. But when they see a child lying in bed without covers they’ll still show empathy and tuck them in. I love undertale