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Remember kids, gatekeeping punk is OKAY when it’s done to conservatives who try to co-opt the punk scene!
“Conservative is the new punk” 🤡
“Punk is right wing” Johnny Ramone 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Any band or individual in the scene old or new that are conservatives are POSERS!! Remember, punk went against rock star worship of the 70s!
#mine#diy punk#punk culture#anarchopunk#ecopunk#punk music#punk scene#punk rock#crust punk#diy punx#up the punx#trans punx#queer punx#punx#crust punx#punk diy#punk fashion#johnny Ramone was a poser
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YALL I ALMOST FORGOT ITS NIKKIS BDAY IM GONNA GO KMS NOW… ANYWAYS HAPPY BDAY MY HUSBANDDD
I CANT BELIEVE HES 66 NOW AHHH HES SO HAWWWTTT
#punk#teenage dirtbag#punk rock#go fuck yourself#poser#riot#80s metal#80s bands#nikki sixx#nikkisixx#motleycrue#cruehead#80s#80s hairmetal#80s icons#80s rock#80s glam metal#80s music#1980s#80s nostalgia#Spotify
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i keep wearing my band tshirts to work bc nobody gaf what u wear there and im lazy and now im known as the metalhead girl which is like. not wrong but its also not who i am 😭
#also im a poser metalhead. like idk if half the rock stuff i listen to even counts#its also kinda stressful when i wear my metallica shirt and a dude in their 50-60s come up to me and is like woah i love metallica#n start talking abt seeing them live and all the vinyls they own#and i have to pretend like ive listened to more than 1 metallica album in my life#i dont even remember what it sounded like sorry metallica. maybe one day ill listen to u guys for real#vinnie talks
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When the punk hangout has an interesting mix of shoes
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no true scotsman nonsense online
Istg the amount of arguments people get into online about whether someones a poser or not is ridiculous shsh
the amount of online teen crusties that accuse others for being posers bc of the most insane reasons is crazyy, Ive had multiple crusties online that have accused me of being a poser...... Even though i listen to the same music as them and have traveled with crusties to watch crust shows multiple times..... Like not a single crustpunk has had a problem with me irl and ive met dozens of crustpunks
One crustie called me a poser because.... I have politics on my jacket..... Hmm
I dont think ppl should get blasted for looking like posers (educating them and encouraging them is how you get less posers) but istg im sometimes so tempted to start poser wars with some of them because they reek of insecurity when people come up with such reasons to call ppl posers. Are they a Poser or are they just a beginner? Are they a poser or do you just not like their jacket?
Youre a poser if you dont understand the base principles of punk and dont care for the music. Thats it. Someone having a meme patch is not reason enough to call then posers, and even if they are, COMMUNITY SUPPORT, RESPECTFULLY TEACH THEM BETTER.
With how prominent no true poser arguments are, every punk has been called a poser lol so the longer youre a punk the more desensitized you become to it but like leave the newbies alone guys shahshsh
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This started as a perspective/anatomy practice (it-- it was procrastination--I am procrastinating my life rn) and then evolved because, as said before, this au will not leave my head (i’m sure it’s just a passing fancy lol). So here’s a few more things.
This was Henry’s first big controversial moment in his career, his ‘iconic moment in pop culture’. From his outfit (the first one Basil was in charge of styling/designing for him) to his pose and the fact his fly is just intentionally fully open (he knew who his fans were and what they wanted), this all cemented his provocative reputation. Also it was the 70s, people were looking for anything to call controversy. After that performance, Basil became Henry’s main stylist (despite just wanting to paint a portrait of him lmao).
Henry, despite claiming to be (and certainly trying to present as) punk rock star, always had more of a natural proclivity to the rock star part. No one considers him punk, even with how much star power he has. Him being the second son to a lord and also rich just confirmed he wasn't for everyone who was actually punk. At most, he’d pull shit like the above and then people would kind of see why he thought himself punk. He even had to learn how to do a London accent because he naturally speaks in RP, aka he sounds like a rich man.
tldr: Henry is a complete poser.
The outfit used references from this one picture of the Sex Pistols and these two Vivienne Westwood pieces. All referenced images and my reasonings for choosing them (because I like to yap and yall can’t stop me) will be under the cut.
The Sex Pistols were one of the 'faces' of 70s punk (go listen to some of their music---it's good!) and their style felt like something Henry would imitate. I wish I could tell you more about them, but admittedly, I just started listening to them last year. (i, like henry, am a poser, i'm so sorry/lh). Anyways that top was fun to draw!
These are the two references by Vivienne Westwood (Dress [right], Shirt [left]). I took the ruffled part of Dress to add to the top Henry wears because, keeping with the idea that Henry is being dressed/styled by Basil, Basil probably leaned into Romantic influences, while trying to match the punk vibes Henry wanted. The little leg strap in Shirt became the weird edgy straps Henry has on his wrists. On my end, that was just for vibes lol.
The Vivienne Westwood items can be found on the Metropolitan Museum of Arts website :)
#the picture of dorian gray#80s rock au ig#this is more 70s tbh#henry wotton#henry wotton should be a poser in every iteration#art#my art#references used are below cut
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I don't wanna fuss with the criteria for subcultures or fit into one niche I just wanna listen to music that fucks and wear stuff that looks cool and say fuck the government and capitalism and bigotry and unkindness. And I want a nap everyday.
#been following the punk tag bc i wanna get into more punk rock and stuff surrounding it#and I'm messing around with diy and my battle jacket#but every other post is about posers and what counts as punk etc#I don't want to be a part of anything that constantly has to be defended and defined
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something I've been thinking about lately. i do think it's incredibly telling that almost 80 percent of the conversations around 'gatekeeping' and 'posers' and shit end up just becoming vitriolic hatred of 'alt girls' like i hate shit spotify playlists and dollskill fake leather edge and tiktok recommendations as much as the next person but this is a very big attitude coming from a website full of people who spent their formative middle school years shopping at hot topic for multi-colored skinny jeans while listening to like. falling in reverse or 21p unironically (this is a self-own btw). first of all teenagers having shit taste isn't killing punk music. but also why is the object of your hatred always boil down to a woman faking it? as if it isn't the single oldest stereotype in heavy music? like am i insane for thinking this is an issue
#like theres another dimensionality for sure about how some women do position themselves as like 'weird' when they split-dye their hair#and wear black. and are in actuality conventionally attractive and posturing#like as a dyke metalhead that can be legitimately frustrating but also i dont think this is an issue of poserism#a lot of those women do for real listen to heavy music.#its very similar to like. those metal frontwomen who do like mag calender photoshoots for 'sexiest ladies in rock'#like theyre very much not the issue and its weird to shift the blame onto them for playing the game#and its even more fucked imo to question their allegiance to 'the scene' because it just warps into#every misogynist talking point about how women are 'too pretty'to play guitar or get sweaty in the pit or whatever#ANYWAY there is literally never this much attention given to like rym poser dudes with no brain that theyve become their own#evil subcategory of 'fake alt girl' when men are selling out to make much worse shit pop punk all the time lmaooooo#been thinking about this since i read laina dawes memoir which whil on one hand v good is so inredibly peoccupied#with other women in metal spaces. implying that those who dress sexy to go to shows do it entirely for the attention of men and are#'bad role models' left a bad taste in my mouth#my posts
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Had a good convo with a none punk friend (very communist tho) who 1. Listened to me ranting about the tik tok girlies who think Hobie and Eddie were written for them and 2. About how punk culture is fighting a war against becoming capitalismed by these trends because we’re being decently repped in modern media and people are taking Punk culture and abusing it for their own gain
This friend let me rant about how kids talk about how folks deserve kindness then turn around and call cops on unhoused folk asking for a glass of water on a hot day
And they just turn to me and say
“Dude, I have mad respect for punks, because that’s something that really doesn’t want to gatekeep but has needed to gatekeep to protect the good it does, like ur some of the only valid people who Need to gatekeep and you desperately try not to”
Which led to me ranting about how these posers infect pits and punch people unprompted because that’s what they think pits “are”
This is endlessly frustrating and infuriating and I know I’m not the only one who feels this
#80s punk#punk#hardcore punk#punk aesthetic#punk culture#punk rock#anarchism#gender anarchy#anarchy#posers#safety pin#patches
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Fakes! December 15, 2024
Songs about fakes, frauds, posers! listen to the show
The Undertones - When Saturday Comes ONETWOTHREE - Fake
DJ speaks over Thee Headcoats - Mask of the Squaxin
Bona Rays - Poser Fega Påhopp - Hålla Masken The Cramps - What's Behind the Mask Fox and the Roadrunners - Illusions of a Party
DJ speaks over Peace de Resistance - Sitting in Disguise
Buzzcocks - I Don't Mind The Arthur Smith Trio & Arthur Smith - Adieu False Heart Hazel O'Connor - Monsters In Disguise G.L.O.S.S. - Masculine Artifice Crispy Newspaper - Аутро - Сымыйа Итэҕэл Deep Wound - You're False Cosey Mueller - Falsches Ding
DJ speaks over Curt Boettcher - Misty Mirage (instrumental)
Pure Funk - Nothing Left Is Real (Remastered) Teengenerate - Fake Fake Fake Dolly Parton - False Eyelashes K'naan - What's Hardcore
Ruth Copeland - Play With Fire Malinheads - Hoax Kirsty MacColl - There's A Guy Works Down The Chip Shop Swears He's Elvis Tommy James & The Shondells - Mirage Useless Eaters - Fake Fashion Loud Music The Kiss Offs - Mock St. Augustine
Tim Hart and Maddy Prior - False Knight on the Road Ultravox - Artificial Life At Night - Fake Gold Grupo Sub-1 - Falsa Vampira Frenzy - Poser
Yellow Magic Orchestra - Behind the Mask Gene McDaniels - False Friends M.A.Z.E. - Her Smile is Fake Gal Costa - Falsa Baiana
Public Enemy - Don't Believe the Hype
#radio#community radio#fake#posers#fraud#punk#music#playlist#post punk#wprb#new wave#hardcore punk#garage rock#hip hop#folk#synth punk
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#this is a like. an interestong premise for a 4-koma#but i cannot imagine what their band sohnds like at all#and i listen to rock with folk instruments..... maybe im a poser...#skpb
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i have a huge bone to pick on specific types of people who call others “posers”
the other day i saw a goth girl say that if you don’t listen to underground bands/songs of a specific genre of music then you’re a “weird ass poser”
i mean, are we serious here?
“if your top favorite songs are the most popular ones then don’t even consider yourself punk/goth/emo/whatnot” - are you the CEO of rock? otherwise why are you sitting there and establishing roles and policies? you’re doing too fucking much. i kinda get what she means but that’s just an exaggeration imo. like sorry, didn’t know that you’re supposed to only listen to super underground bands that only their dog knows the existence of; otherwise you’re a stinky poser.
songs become popular sometimes, what can we do about it? they’re also most listened to for a reason, it’s cos they’re good. nobody’s at fault if some people prefer them over less known songs/albums, it’s called having individual music taste!
i understand if someone listened to just one rock song in their lifetime, doesn’t have the mindset, doesn’t know anything about it and now calls themselves alternative, then they don’t really deserve to be put in the same sentence as a poser cos they’re not even trying lmao.
but telling others who they are and aren’t just because they don’t listen to underground bands/songs of the subgenre you enjoy or they don’t pick them enough for your liking is NOT it. congrats, you out-gothed all goths for listening to “Bloody Hemorrhoids” with 4 monthly listeners and then hated on everyone who doesn’t… here’s your badge i guess?
digging up all the underground bands isn’t a necessity, listen to what you wanna! don’t let entitled people tell you wtf you should do. that’s my take on it
#rock music#alternative rock#rock#punk rock#hard rock#rock n roll#punk#hardcore punk#alternative#poser#posercore#indie rock#gothic#gothcore#rant post#pop punk#music#underground#be so fucking for real#baby bat#emo scene#emocore#emo#punk scene
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Am I the only one wondering why the #riot grrrl on tumblr is full of fucking Courtney love??? She’s not a fucking riot grrrl.
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Punk isn't a fashion. Punk isn't an aesthetic. Punk isn't a style. Punk is about making really terrible music, having a surface-level understanding of communist theory, never washing your hair and constantly saying that everyone else who calls themselves punk isn't really punk.
#personal rant#punk#punk rock#“punk is about fighting the system”#bitch the only thing punks ever really fought was each other in a bar fight#it was always poser nonsense chill the fuck out
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I think I just met some posers :(( Im at a sleepover and it's awesome, but you were supposed come as goth/emo. Ofc I asked them what their fav music creators were, and one said ED SHEERAN. :((((
Then when we played music, one didnt know who SLIPKNOT was 😰 and they both didn't know Welcome to the Black Parade (ik not all ppl listen to MCR, but it's like the most basic one).....
They both only know TX2...and we're listening to TEETH rn 😭😭 the host claims to be goth/wants to be goth, but we played Katy Perry... I'm pretty sure she doesn't even know what goth music is, or that alt is a music based subculture... (Please recommend me some goth songs to play, I listen to scene/emo rock and want to help her)
#alternative#alt#alt style#alt subculture#goth#emo#poser :((#alternative rock#rock#slipknot#jett posts
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