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lurksunderthebed · 1 year ago
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Ghoap Analysis/Meta (1?)
The Evolution of GhostSoap Redux
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Continuing thoughts on how Ghost and Soap's relationship has changed over the course of mw(19), mwii(22) and mwiii(23)
Spread out amongst several posts. This will be long 😅
(Part 1)
BEWARE SPOILERS TO MWIII(23) !
I've had time to settle my thoughts on Ghostsoap in mwiii (23) and this will go more into depth of the re-contextualising of Ghost and Soap's relationship in mwii (22) from the verdansk mission: "Flashpoint".
Flashpoint is set 4 years to mwiii(23). The game places it as April 6, 2019. This is important to us because it sets a different potential first mission (meet cute lmao) between the two and thus changes the tone of their interactions in mwii (22)
So let's set up a timeline with the available dates. Thankfully, the game sets some very concrete dates for us. Not all missions are included.*
2019
Flashpoint - April 06, 2019
First canonical appearance of SAS Ghost and Soap
Ghost provides sniper cover for Soap
Price/Soap capture Makarov and transport him to a helo with Ghost and Shepherd
There's a failed interrogation by Ghost and Soap.
Makarov implies he has met Ghost before and thought him dead at an airport
2019 Mw(19)
Piccadilly - Oct 25, 2019
First canonical appearance of SAS Gaz
Gaz is attached to Met Counter Terrorist Police. This implies he has worked largely in his career in conjunction to the Police. It's unknown whether he met Soap or Ghost before.
First meet of Gaz and Price to combat terrorists in London
Old Comrades - Oct 31, 2019
Gaz meets Nikolai
Interrogation scene. Arguably strengthens Gaz and Price's relationship
Into the Furnace - Nov 03, 2019
Last mission, they kill general barkov
Credit Scene - Nov 03-04, 2019* (hypothetical)
Laswell and Price form task force 141
Price seconds Ghost, Soap, Gaz. This implies that Price has worked with Soap and Ghost on missions for x amount of years. It's Gaz who was the surprise recruit.
2020 Cod Warzone
Season 2 - Mar 2020
First appearance of 141 Ghost
Unknown amount of 141 stationed in Verdansk. Ghost asks for backup.
Season 3 - Apr 2020
Armistice dissolved
Price and Gaz show up to help Ghost
Implied- unknown amount of 141 to Verdansk (possible meeting of Soap and Ghost)
Season ? - Dec 2020
Price kills Zakaev
First appearance (via call) of 141 Soap asking for backup in Verdansk
Price, Ghost, Gaz, Farah etc backup Soap who is somewhere else in Verdansk getting pinned down by enemies
2022 Mwii(22)
Strike - July 15, 2022
Ghost calls an airstrike on Ghorbrani with the aid of Shadow Company
Hindsight - Aug 12, 2022
Shepherd/Shadow Company loses American missiles to terroists
Kill or Capture - Oct 28, 2022
Ghost gets assigned Soap as his sergeant for Al Mazhrah mission to kill or capture Hassan
They find American missiles instead
Cartel Protection - Oct 30, 2022
Ghost/Soap meet Ale/Rudy in Las Almas
They fight the Mexican army under control of the cartels
RV with Graves/Shadow Comp.
El Sin Nombre - Nov 01, 2022
Soap infils cartel mansion
Valeria is revealed as El Sin Nombre
They take her into custody
Dark Water - Nov 02, 2022
Boat/oil rig mission with Shadow company
Missile launch averted by Ghost, Soap and Graves
Alone - Nov 03, 2022
Graves and Shepherd betray 141/mexi bros
Ghost and Soap get out of Las Almas
RV at ale's hideout with Rudy
Prison Break - Nov 03, 2022
Ghost, Soap, Rudy break out ale from prison
Meet up with Price/Gaz
Ghost Team - Nov 03, 2022
141 with mexi bros take back mexi bros base
Soap and Rudy "kill" Graves
Countdown - Nov 04, 2022
Stop missile launch in Chicago
Ghost and Soap kill Hassan
2023 Mwiii (23)
Operation 627 - Oct 13, 2023
Makarov breaks out of prison
Reactor - Nov 10, 2023
141 find out that Makarov escaped
141 assaults konni base
Price finds chemical weapons (almost died)
Payload - Nov 11, 2023
141 split up to stop missile launch of chemical weapons
They fail to stop 2 missiles to Russia
Oligarch - Nov 12, 2023
Ghost/Soap island mission to find Makarov's financier
Interrogation of Milena for Makarov's location
Frozen Tundra - Nov 14, 2023
141 ambush konni convoy
Find Shepherd was Makarov's prisoner
Interrogate him on Makarov's location
Gora Dam - Nov 16, 2023
Ghost/Soap split up to stop chemical weapons in Verdansk
Trojan Horse - Nov 21, 2023
141 split up in London tunnels to stop Makarov from using chemical weapons in subway system
So now that's done. I've mostly ignored Farah and Alex and focused on Price, Ghost, Gaz, Soap and Nikolai as it pertains to relationships within the core group of Price/Ghost/Gaz/Soap.
What can we make of this ?
Well, a couple things.
We can now say that from 2019 to the events of "Kill or Capture" in 2022, Ghost and Soap have most likely worked together on missions before. The timeline shows that they at least had to have met in Dec 2020 in Verdansk as Soap had called for backup to Price and group.
That makes it actually at least 3 years of knowledge of each other prior to mwii(22). So a total of 4 years + potentially at the start of mwiii(23).
It also shows us how quickly their relationship changed from the Alone mission in '22 despite the 3 years of prior knowledge they had since '19.
Let it be said that it took 1 week, ONLY 7 DAYS!! to change Ghost and Soap's relationship. 7 days out of a total at least 3 years total.
Ghost started at not even bothering to name Soap in 2019, to presumably basic Soap/Mactavish/sergeant for the next 3 years.
Cut to the events in mwii(22). Lets say beginning at "Kill or Capture" and finishing at "Alone" and suddenly Ghost ends up having made up his own personal nickname that no one else can use for Soap in just those 7 days.
I posit that this was in part due to "Kill or Capture" in '22 being the first mission that Soap has directly worked under Ghost's command.
This is all hypotheticals and guesswork so take it as you may.
Assuming Ghost was mainly a solo mission sort of guy, let's also assume he mostly helped as sniper overwatch if he ever had team missions (like in Flashpoint). Most 141 missions have him taking that position as well, so it's safe to say he is support most of the time.
Given that assumption, it's also likely that Soap and Ghost had to have interacted mainly on comms and any physical meeting would be restricted to transport via heli or otherwise.
It's possible Soap and Ghost have worked together on a more physical basis (aka Ghost leading Soap on a squad), but given how much Ghost seemed to be testing Soap in "Kill or Capture" I find that somewhat unlikely.
In 2019 we see how brusque Ghost is with Soap. It's very likely that Ghost was largely monosyllabic with Soap pre or post missions to Flashpoint.
Considering Soap's propensity to chatter in 2022 and 2023, it's also very likely Soap annoyed the hell out of Ghost on comms. Lol.
This could explain why Ghost was so dismissive of having Soap as his sergeant in "Kill or Capture", despite working together 3 years ago.
I, and arguably most of fandom had theorised that "Kill or Capture" was the first mission that Soap and Ghost ever had together. And we weren't quite right, but we weren't completely wrong either.
With Flashpoint, it's obvious now that was not quite true. It even suggests in it that Ghost and Soap had worked together prior to even that, as there was no formal introduction between the two.
This dramatically changes how Ghost's dialogue and Soap's to a lesser degree can be read in mwii(22) and implies much much more if you consider how they interact with each other in '23.
So why does it matter when Ghost and Soap's relationship started?
With mwiii(23) we can now definitively tell when Ghost and Soap's relationship changed. We now have a rough basis of a timeline and we can track down the differences between '19 -'22 and then '22- '23. Its important because we can see how their relationship deepens and how it changed within a span of 3 years, 7 compelling days and 1 heartwrenching year later.
For all that mwiii(23) was lax with explicit Ghostsoap moments, it's rich in how much context we gain to their relationship. We see how Ghost changes and how his relationships differ between 141. It's an interesting and compelling look at both Ghost and Soap's characters.
In this discussion I separate this analysis into 3 parts. Part 2 will cover the implications of "Flashpoint" on mwii (22), with discussion line by line. Part 3 will most likely go over comparisons a year makes from the events in '22 to '23. (This might be subject to change as I get further into the analysis)
Onto Part 2.
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theuniverseawakens347 · 2 months ago
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this straight forward “snitch”.. GOOD BEHAVIOR GETS REWARDED … IAN MCDOWELL.. U A HALF SINNER W THE MONEY… N CONTINUED TERROIST THREATS… YS REPORTED N GOT UR PAY OR WHATEVER THEY GAVE YOU BEING TURNING IN THINGS.. BUT THEN SAID “ okay let me push n see the limits… then used my mans name… you got death row.. ur also texting him ur TERROIST threats n he turning them in… “ PREVENTING CRIMES BEFORE THEY HAPPEN AND OR LETTING THE POLICE AND WHITE HOUSE LAW SECTOR WHOS DOING WHAT SO NIGGAS AINT GOTTA JOHN BANAI RAMZIE …. I WAS 4 when I first Hurd about her case and 20 something when I ended… YA KEPT SHUFFLING SNEAK DISSINGNAND ABUSING MY FAMILY FOR UR SICKO POLITICAL SCARE TACTICS… NOW THE REAL ONE WHO CAN DELIGATE A FINAL END IS HERE. NOT TRISTAND DOMAIN OR NIPSEY THEY HAND OVER THE evidence in an organized way… BACK WHEN “gangsters” OLD HEADS WORKED W THE POLICE TO KEEP THINGS EAZY FOR tracking… then it got chaotic when ya kept stealing my main FAMILY TREE N FORCING PPL INTO SIN BY KILLING THEIR KIN.. AT THIS POINT THIS WHOLE THIS IS AND ISNT FAIR IS GOING IN CIRCLES.. YOU SEE N UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU Wnt.. you chose to close ya self off THATS WHY YOU KEEP CHOOSING THE PATH OF DEATH ROW. JESUS FING CHRIST.
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sridharm-1980 · 2 years ago
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MAKKALE UNGA BADDY SURAVALI...8.30PM THORAIPAKKAM CHENNAI TAMILNADU COMING TO TEA SHOP TO DRINK TEA WITH MY LOVABLE PUBLIC PEOPLE OF INDIA 🇮🇳.......EPOO ACTORS TERROIST RAJINIKANTH, AMITABH BACHCHAN, SHAH RUKH KHAN, AJITH KUMAR, VIJAY,SURIYA ,KARTHI, SIMBHU, VIKRAM, ARJUN ,PRAKASHRAJ, SALMAN KHAN, AKSHAY KUMAR, AJAY DEVGAN ...ENNA PAKKANUM SOLUNGALAMA MEDIAVULA.......ENNODA THALAYA VETTI EDUTHUTU POI METTUKULAM SUDUKATLA PODIVARAMA ACTOR RAJINIKANTH, AMITABH BACHCHAN, SHAH RUKH KHAN, SALMAN KHAN.....NAMMA PUBLIC PEOPLE, POLICE,CBI,FBI AVUGALA ARREST PANNI NADU ROTALA ILUTHUTTU POLAMA....BECAUSE EVEN NOW I GOT TROUBLED BY THEIR FANS NEAR OMR ROAD.....
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YOUR ASIA JAMES BOND
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LOVE YOU ALL 💋
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daydreamerballerina · 5 years ago
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No caption needed. Another example of police terrorise.
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mamemomi · 5 years ago
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Hong Kong News:
This is #WAR now. 9/2 (2 September 2019), beginning of school year and the 1st day of general strike. HK #nazi Police Force started rounding up passengers, especially secondary school students and who in black clothes, at every metro station.
Strongly believe that, HK #chinazi Government is developing white terror atmosphere in Hong Kong to prevent anything happens on 10/1 (1 October 2019), the establishment day of #PRC.
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newsbunddle · 4 years ago
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Tunnel used by four Jaish men killed in Nagrota found
Tunnel used by four Jaish men killed in Nagrota found
Written by Arun Sharma | Jammu | November 23, 2020 4:36:58 am Cement bags with Pak markings found in tunnel: Police. ANI IN A key breakthrough, the Border Security Force (BSF) and police have detected a cross-border tunnel in the Regal area of Jammu’s Samba district that was used by four Jaish-e-Mohammad terrorists to enter J&K before they were gunned down by security forces in an encounter at…
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shadyoperatorwolfcalzone · 4 years ago
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a-tale-of-legends · 3 years ago
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One thing that I need to clear up for myself is how N progress through time. Like what does he do between bw to swsh/TBWS.
I know that unlike canon, he doesn't do his farewell speech, as he just witness his friend get attacked by Ghetsis' Hydreigon, literally bleeding out. I think due to that and just the entire shock and panic of the situation he just fled. Not out of malice! He was scared for Alexis and Elliot ( whom he didn't know where she was or if she was hurt but the fear was still there), but he just couldn't be there at the moment. He just couldn't. So he left. ( Heh, N and Alexis parallel there).
He constantly bash himself for leaving without knowing if his friends are okay, so throughout his 2 year journey, he didn't know if they were alive or not. Though, on the bright side, the 2 years away from Unova did help him reflect and recognize what he wants. Good new there!
In B2W2, he runs into Elliot and after some friction ( mostly from Elliot) he ends up getting adopted by the Jones. ....okay, no, that's not what happens, but they do let him stay in their house when he needs to sleep so he doesn't sleep in the wild...or on the streets. Elliot and N also team up, as Team Plasma is back and Elliot wants to kick their ass. N is....less than thrilled, but senses something in pain via Reshiram. So yeah he's gonna help. I like to believe that N has a bad habit of just going off on his own, causing Elliot to chase after him a lot ( grown ass man can't stay still for a second, Arceus-).
Now for some introspective, N is overjoyed that Elliot is alive and well, but is so heartbroken when he sees her left leg. Like, he can't help but feel like he was the one that caused all of this pain ( to which, in a sense, he kinda did, but it's also not his fault, you know?). He actually asks about Alexis, since he doesn't seem him anywhere, and Elliot hasn't mentioned him. So, good news, he lived the Hydreigon attack! Bad news, he ran away from the hospital and left Unova and no one knows where he is, so there's a 50/50 chance he could be dead. Fuck. It's even weirder with that he can't really sense Zekrom through Reshiram, so this just sends N into an internal panic and blaming of himself.
The rest plays out as B2W2 until Alexis comes to help and that just brings more emotions. I think N was never the one to initiate a hug until that moment. The joy and relief that his friend his alive ( maybe not okay, but still alive). He was legit gonna go for a hug until Elliot beat him and punched Alexis in the face. Then Cheren and Bianca came into the scene and just the look on Alexis' face kinda just....deterred him from doing anything else. Oh. And he gave Reshiram to Elliot, but that's for later.
Now, a little side tangent, I remember seeing headcanons that N eventually runs a daycare or becomes a daycare worker OR helps rescue abandoned and abused pokemon and I just love that I have those roles to everyone else except him lol. This poor man gets nothing.
Anyway, from B2W2 to SwSh/TBWS, it's a bit iffy. I'm not sure if N leaves Unova again in fear of making things worse ( completely misguided and anxiety filled assumption), and feels like he has so much to make up for all the wrongs he did. I think he travels Unova again, this time without the threat of Team Plasma revising. Though, and I just realize this, the man would probably be interrogated by the police? Cause he's connected to a terroist group? So, uh, that probably happens. Not a good time. But I think he's able to go free ( maybe house arrest for a bit? Idk. Ideas help), and THEN he travels Unova again. He gets to see all of his friends again :)
Outside of traveling, it's hard to tell what he does in terms of his relationship with the other characters. Cause the whole ordeal is a mess. No one is communicating and those that do communicate end up doing it wrong. He can speak to Cheren just fine, if not a bit akward, but he kinda has to dance around the fact that he wants to be friends with Alexis again cause from what Cheren's pokemon told him, things are tense. Elliot is easier ( she rants to him if she needs it) but it just hurts to see the twins be so distant. Their bond is what made N admire them after all. Finally Bianca, who is arguably the only one who knows her shit and acts by it. She already talked to Alexis about what happened, and while she's not going to try and force people to talk ( she believes that it's up to the people themselves to fix things, not an outside force), she's still kind and understanding to all sides. Bascically, she and N become bff's. They're both nerds and she's really pleasant to talk too :)
N thinks that Alexis doesn't even want to talk to him, let alone look at him. Which hurts, but he understands. It wasn't until Elliot once again forced N to sleep over at the Jones house was when the two talked. Not about literally everything that happened, but just. Talked. It was small, awkward ( Alexis still looked terrible), but it was a start. Soon it became apparent that the three were bascically siblings ( N loves affectionately bullying Elliot and Alexis. Mainly with his height. Especially with his height), and their relationship was getting better. It was no surprise that N eventually started to visit the daycare on route 3, when Alexis started working. He loves playing with the baby pokemon.
There's a lot more that could be said here ( like N's relationships with Eva and Wayne) but this is already so long. I just wanted to talk about Legendverse! N.
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mellometal · 3 years ago
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dhar manns videos on racism remind me of rwby. rwby is an american cartoon inspired by anime and they tried to teach racism with an allegory of animal-humans known as the faunus who are oppressed. a group called the white fang claims to be for faunus rights but in reality they murder faunus and act as terroists. some interpret them as an allegory for blm. but in season 5 Blake (a faunus) essentially tells the oppressed minorities that came to this place to avoid oppression that it’s their fault they’re oppressed because they aren’t nice to humans and don’t police themselves enough. thoughts?
I haven't seen RWBY personally, so I can't exactly form an opinion.
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theafterofnevermore · 3 years ago
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I posted 14 times in 2021
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For every post I created, I reblogged 6.0 posts.
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🏳️‍🌈Happy Pride everyone!!!! 🏳️‍🌈
I kinda hate that there aren’t emojis for all the pride flags but I’m glad there are at least two.
I also wish there were more shades of color for the heart emojis but let me use what I have.
🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ 🖤🤍💜 🧡🤍💗 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈
Stay safe everyone and just know that we all are loved, we all are valid and I’m proud that of everyone out there! Be yourself and don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise!!
❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎
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I’ve been reblogging some things about the terroists that stormed the Capital but I felt I also needed to say something about this.
It’s fucking disgraceful.
They trashed, hated, condemned and ridiculed the BLM movement over and over again because they were tired of the racism in this world. But this is their response to the Presidential election. They storm the Capital building, have a stand off with Capital Police, and scare the living hell out of so many people. They climb fences, yell at the law enforcement that had been called out to help contain them.
I read an article that a woman called them heroes, a man also bragged about how scared the workers must have been. Apparently, officials had to wear gas masks because tear gas was thrown and no one knows if the police threw it or the terrorists did.
And they are terrorists. They’re not just Trump Suppoters or protestors. They’re dangerous and armed terrorists. Not to mention that there was a woman who had been in critical condition, now dead because she was shot, the National Guard was activated, now there’s a Curfew in DC and there’s smaller protests going on in other Capitals around the US.
I can’t even describe the anger and fear that I felt when I read what happened. I just hope people are staying safe.
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singinginthecar · 4 years ago
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France is gonna be the next openly islamophonic country thanks to their President. So in france police shot an 18y/o suspected of beheading his teacher for showing cartoons of Prof. Muhammad (nine others r arrested too). And Macron called the beheading as "Islamist terroist attack". What msg he is giving to his people??Just few weeks ago he even gave a speech about "rise of radical islam in france". Mark my words. Islamophobics gonna rise.
i think what happened with that teacher was absolutely horrific and it's important to call out any and all religious extremism. but i also remember reading somewhere that there already is widespread islamophobia in france... and this horrific incident will inevitably come back to haunt all muslims living there :/
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brattylikestoeat · 4 years ago
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So Miss Bratty. Where do you stand on defunding all police and having a lawless society? And do we really want to take cops out of the donut shops. Now it's food related.
Idk why I feel like you being sarcastic but imma answer.
I pay a lot of taxes and I don’t want my taxes going to police who just wanna joyride and kill niggas. So yes defund the bitch ass cops who without a badge and gun wouldn’t have the balls to step to half the people they do. Cops/police/ ect can all suck a dirty dick. They get paid to be terroist.
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theuniverseawakens347 · 3 months ago
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POLICE AROUND THE WORLD = TERROIST ORGANIZATION THATS WHY WE CREATED CRIPS IN BLOODS IN AMERICA BUT THEN BLACK PANTHER MENTALILY GOT IN THE WAY
“Blacks OVER RULING THE WHITE” .. then crips vs bloods
East coast vs west coast rivals..
Oops NOW POLICE JOIN IN..
WHY YA DO THAT DUMBSHIT MARTIN MALCOM BACK END PAYS ..
STOP YA TAINTED PROTECTION.. marvel captain america vs stark …
Ya need me touch NATO MEETING TO HELP MAKE RIGHT.. GRESHA.. the lil red head girl…
IRISH YA WHITE PPL W BLACK PROPERTIES SAMMY PICCONE POLE .. ORANGE RED BLACK BROWN LOWER HUE ON COLOR WHERE
—- shrug—- ROOT BLACK BUT WASHED OUT CAUSE EQUATOR AND SOMEONE MENTAL BRAINWASHED YA THINKING TO SAY UR CULTURE IS FIFFEENT BAGPIPES N CLOG DANCES .. African .. polysamoan dances … Australia … churantulas.. DRIER LAND VS WETTER
Hotter moister etc .. BUT CULTURE THE PPL THE SAME ALL OVER AT ROOT … YA JUST IN DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT… GALOPOGOES ISLAND ANIMALS VS ISLANDER CLOSER TO LAND…
More tropical and exotic based on CLIMATE … that biology studies.. AT IMMACULATE HEART MISS MILLER … college prep school ya kept something’s correct to life … but ya tainted it still assimilation to little mind in a big world make easy to control ANYWHERE a propaganda has negative root // connotation .. chrisean rock ya ready for mental help , good NLE. … DONT BE ASSHOLES CAUSE THEY WERE ASSHOLES THATS HOW YA GET BHAD BHABBIES N WOAH VICKY NATALIE NUNS .. LACK OF LOVE.
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sridharm-1980 · 2 years ago
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Hi 👋 my dear PUBLIC PEOPLE OF INDIA 🇮🇳.... WHY STILL THE TERROIST ACTOR AJITH KUMAR IS NOT GOT ARRESTED BY TAMILNADU POLICE,INDIAN MILITARY,CBI,FBI...
DID GOVT CHECKED HIS PROPERTYS ARE LEGAL BOUGHT LEGALLY OR ILLGALLY OR BY HACKING,THEARTENING INNOCENT POOR PEOPLE OF INDIA ,UK LONDON.....
IAM READY TO SHOW MY PROPERTY DOCUMENTS TO PUBLIC PEOPLE OF INDIA 🇮🇳.... AND EARTH 🌎... IF PUBLIC WISH SO...BY PEOPLE'S DON....
ALWAYS NO.1
YOUR ASIA JAMES BOND
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LOVE YOU ALL MY DEAR POLICE 🚔
THIS IS SRIDHAR.M☝
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daydreamerballerina · 5 years ago
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12.11.2019
Police using excessive force to attack the Chinese University of Hong Kong. Tear gas, water canon and guns. The students are just trying to protect their second home, where they pursue their dreams. University is not supposed to be treated like this, it’s sacred. It’s where the futures are nurtured.
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mamemomi · 5 years ago
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Hong Kong News:
8/31 (31 August 2019) night, HK #nazi Police Force fired two “real bullets” during the protest eviction (confirmed), including one 9mm Luger.
HK is now officially an #authoritarian police state, no doubt.
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