#please antis dni

[marsconer]

PENELOPE & SEVERUS : TALE AS OLD AS MEDIEVAL TIME

i was working on many wrong few rights when i realized penelope and severus had a very interesting dynamic. i think i may have developed myself into a courtly love corner with those two. or maybe i accidentally made a subversion of courtly love, since they aren’t the usual figures who would get to live a courtly love. so here’s my study of a relationship. disclaimer im not a medievalist or an english major so take my literally analyses with a handful of salt, im just a gay person with a hobby and thoughts. i wrote this for me to help me write my fic and i decided to share bc this is my blog that’s reason enough.

what is courtly love in the first love?

courtly love was a medieval european literary conception of love that emphasized nobility and chivalry. ( wikipedia ). courtly was the love of a knight for a woman of noble heritage, usually above the knight's own social class. It was a ritualistic admiration of a lady of high birth, usually unrelated to marriage or sex. it places great important on this later part, courtly love cannot be consummated. it is better to speak or to die? to die.

THE KNIGHT.

this is where i think things get interesting because severus snape is not your local medieval knight. and those characters are already idealized versions of said knights. let’s contrast our half blood prince with those arthurian esque legends. when i was researching knighthood for this meta, the found that had pillars and they were:

friendship, generosity, chastity, courtesy, piety, honor, honestly, valour, loyalty, devotion.

and although severus embodies a few of those traits ( devotion and loyalty come to to mind ), he’s more in line with your heathcliff than your lancelot. his loyalty to dumbledore can only be proven by being disloyal to voldemort. he is chaste, even in cannon all his love for lily can be read as platonic and even when read as romantic is very chaste. but he lacks the everything else.

THE LADY

penelope gaunt on the other hand, fulfills what “lady of high birth” is supposed to be closely enough. she’s on high birth technically, being slytherin royalty and having a powerful father, she’s promised to marry into the most ancient and noble house of black. but she’s also incredibly comfortable with violence, she has a higher tolerance to it than him when they start off. her father’s power comes from being the leader of a terrorist-classist-mugglephobic cult. her “lord” husband dies in the first year of marriage and during the golden era she’s not a maiden or a lady wife but a widow. she’s not a traditional figure to be “worthy” of said devotion.

THE COURTING, THE LOVING

penelope and severus start growing closer in their fifth year, they had a solid friendship but their dynamic slowly grows from confidants to this dance around their feelings that resembles the courtly love of high born lady and her knight. and by the time the seventh year rolls around, they are already familiar with the movements enough that it’s obvious to everyone around them. it would be mutual pining and out of the charts yearning but it’s the fact that they both unsuited for those idealized and romanticized roles that scratches the mentally ill part of my brain. this is why i write them. the whole two people who have committed horrors being belief engaging in a form of loving they are intently unfit for because the foundation of it are a sense innocence and honor, and doing it anyway.

[proshipwanderer]

i feel like. being anti-harassment should be the default. i think its REALLY strange to go out of your way to bully strangers online. i don’t think. harassing people online and in fandom spaces should be the norm. that’s just me tho

[synf3ll]

"if you're going to write dark fiction you should explicitly state that it's not okay to do in real life so that a child doesn't see it and think it's okay"

actually i don't cater my art to children, my art is not intended for children, and it's not my responsibility to parent them. hope this helps

[ratunderneathahat]

I love this ship. It is not healthy. I do not give a fuck. They will make out and fuck.

[chloesinferno]

I'm not one to usually gatekeep, but with the recent talk of the american TikTok ban going around, I keep seeing people suggest moving to Tumblr. While I do appreciate new people coming over to our platform, I am concerned that TikTokers of all people coming. Tiktok is the #1 social media spot for antishippers. The problem is so bad there you can't even leave a comment with "🍖🌈" in your name without being attacked by antis even if the initial comment had nothing to do with ship discourse. All I'm saying is I'm worried that if Tiktokers start using Tumblr, there will be way more antis here, and the problem will become rampant. Tumblr, at least from what I've seen, is a pretty accepting community when it comes to profic/proship, and I'm scared of that being ruined.

[soulrending]

i want to FLUSTER that man. i want to make him BLUSH. i want to make him feel VULNERABLE AROUND ME. i want to make him WEAK IN THE KNEES. i want to kiss him

[the--queen-of--hell]

"Tell your parents you're a proshipper"

Tell your parents you like to harass people.

Tell your parents you like to tell people to kill themselves.

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve your trauma"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve to be abused"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve to be raped"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you should be abused"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you should be raped"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve to burn in hell".

Tell your parents you like to tell people "go watch real CSEM instead of shipping a 'problematic' fictional couple"

Tell your parents you like to call people "monsters" for liking some fictional content.

Tell your parents you care more about fictional characters being shipped than you care about real people's emotions.

Tell your parents you care more about fanfic/fanarts of fictional characters than you care about actual real life problems.

Tell your parents you lead real people to suicide.

[proshipshy]

Almost cried at this exchange. Nature is finally healing..

[dearestdrearilygirl]

"ugh proshippers and antishippers are both sooo immature like shipping discourse is sooo stupid like i'm neitherrrr like why would you even want to engage with that"

I've seen antishippers unironically say and agree with eachother on the following opinions: being a proshipper means people should be allowed to bully you. proshippers make them believe in eugenics. proshippers all belong in jail. being a proshipper means people can send you death and rape threats because "you deserve it". being a proshipper should be basis for taking away someone's human rights or at least put them on a watchlist.

I'm not a proshipper because i care too much about fictional ships, I'm a proshipper because antishippers sent my friends threats for liking certain ships. I'm a proshipper because i believe i shouldn't have my human rights taken away or be bullied or in jail just for liking a fucking ship. If you believe ship discourse is stupid and immature, then you probably believe people shouldn't be thrown in jail for it.

[pansnovidinnia]

i can't stop laughing

my god they're so close! so close!!

[entirely-strange]

"stop shipping it and you wont get harrased" yeah the same way weird kids can stop being weird to stop bullying right

[proshipwanderer]

you are not a disgusting person for exploring and enjoying dark themes in fiction. you do not have to defend yourself or justify the content you consume. have fun with it, get freaky and weird with it. you can do whatever you want forever

[ropemaxxed]

reminder u don't need an excuse or explanation to ship nasty ships!! ^_^ trauma / coping or not, its always ok because it's fiction and you owe noone anything!

[shotatsuki]

I got bored *Shows you very cool blinkies i did using blinkies cafe*

[problekaktic]

chronically online antis when nobody irl gives a fuck about what kind of fiction someone likes because it's not real

[pro-sipper]

While we're talking about how triggers aren't one size fits all, can we also talk about how sometimes they're just plain stupid??

I can read, write, and watch rape scenes with minor discomfort, but a dubcon drunk makeout scene in a TV14 show made me shut down and turned me off of the show for a month because it reminded me of something that happened to me.

I can watch gore, body horror, and slashers galore with no problem, but watching people slice loaves of bread with razor blades on Bake Off made me feel sick because it reminded me of my own self harm.

Does it make sense? No. But that's just how it is for me. No two traumas are the same, and it's so selfish to think that someone exploring something traumatic in fiction, in any way, is a reflection of you and your situation.

You own what happened to you, but you don't have a monopoly on trauma lmao. You don't get to dictate how people write about these things. And you don't get to decide who is and isn't valid based on how they explore difficult topics in FICTION.