#please antis dni

[marsconer]

PENELOPE & SEVERUS : TALE AS OLD AS MEDIEVAL TIME

i was working on many wrong few rights when i realized penelope and severus had a very interesting dynamic. i think i may have developed myself into a courtly love corner with those two. or maybe i accidentally made a subversion of courtly love, since they aren’t the usual figures who would get to live a courtly love. so here’s my study of a relationship. disclaimer im not a medievalist or an english major so take my literally analyses with a handful of salt, im just a gay person with a hobby and thoughts. i wrote this for me to help me write my fic and i decided to share bc this is my blog that’s reason enough.

what is courtly love in the first love?

courtly love was a medieval european literary conception of love that emphasized nobility and chivalry. ( wikipedia ). courtly was the love of a knight for a woman of noble heritage, usually above the knight's own social class. It was a ritualistic admiration of a lady of high birth, usually unrelated to marriage or sex. it places great important on this later part, courtly love cannot be consummated. it is better to speak or to die? to die.

THE KNIGHT.

this is where i think things get interesting because severus snape is not your local medieval knight. and those characters are already idealized versions of said knights. let’s contrast our half blood prince with those arthurian esque legends. when i was researching knighthood for this meta, the found that had pillars and they were:

friendship, generosity, chastity, courtesy, piety, honor, honestly, valour, loyalty, devotion.

and although severus embodies a few of those traits ( devotion and loyalty come to to mind ), he’s more in line with your heathcliff than your lancelot. his loyalty to dumbledore can only be proven by being disloyal to voldemort. he is chaste, even in cannon all his love for lily can be read as platonic and even when read as romantic is very chaste. but he lacks the everything else.

THE LADY

penelope gaunt on the other hand, fulfills what “lady of high birth” is supposed to be closely enough. she’s on high birth technically, being slytherin royalty and having a powerful father, she’s promised to marry into the most ancient and noble house of black. but she’s also incredibly comfortable with violence, she has a higher tolerance to it than him when they start off. her father’s power comes from being the leader of a terrorist-classist-mugglephobic cult. her “lord” husband dies in the first year of marriage and during the golden era she’s not a maiden or a lady wife but a widow. she’s not a traditional figure to be “worthy” of said devotion.

THE COURTING, THE LOVING

penelope and severus start growing closer in their fifth year, they had a solid friendship but their dynamic slowly grows from confidants to this dance around their feelings that resembles the courtly love of high born lady and her knight. and by the time the seventh year rolls around, they are already familiar with the movements enough that it’s obvious to everyone around them. it would be mutual pining and out of the charts yearning but it’s the fact that they both unsuited for those idealized and romanticized roles that scratches the mentally ill part of my brain. this is why i write them. the whole two people who have committed horrors being belief engaging in a form of loving they are intently unfit for because the foundation of it are a sense innocence and honor, and doing it anyway.

[proshipwanderer]

i feel like. being anti-harassment should be the default. i think its REALLY strange to go out of your way to bully strangers online. i don’t think. harassing people online and in fandom spaces should be the norm. that’s just me tho

[synf3ll]

"if you're going to write dark fiction you should explicitly state that it's not okay to do in real life so that a child doesn't see it and think it's okay"

actually i don't cater my art to children, my art is not intended for children, and it's not my responsibility to parent them. hope this helps

[ratunderneathahat]

I love this ship. It is not healthy. I do not give a fuck. They will make out and fuck.

[soulrending]

i want to FLUSTER that man. i want to make him BLUSH. i want to make him feel VULNERABLE AROUND ME. i want to make him WEAK IN THE KNEES. i want to kiss him

[pansnovidinnia]

i can't stop laughing

my god they're so close! so close!!

[entirely-strange]

"stop shipping it and you wont get harrased" yeah the same way weird kids can stop being weird to stop bullying right

[the--queen-of--hell]

"Tell your parents you're a proshipper"

Tell your parents you like to harass people.

Tell your parents you like to tell people to kill themselves.

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve your trauma"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve to be abused"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve to be raped"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you should be abused"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you should be raped"

Tell your parents you like to tell people "you deserve to burn in hell".

Tell your parents you like to tell people "go watch real CSEM instead of shipping a 'problematic' fictional couple"

Tell your parents you like to call people "monsters" for liking some fictional content.

Tell your parents you care more about fictional characters being shipped than you care about real people's emotions.

Tell your parents you care more about fanfic/fanarts of fictional characters than you care about actual real life problems.

Tell your parents you lead real people to suicide.

[dearestdrearilygirl]

"ugh proshippers and antishippers are both sooo immature like shipping discourse is sooo stupid like i'm neitherrrr like why would you even want to engage with that"

I've seen antishippers unironically say and agree with eachother on the following opinions: being a proshipper means people should be allowed to bully you. proshippers make them believe in eugenics. proshippers all belong in jail. being a proshipper means people can send you death and rape threats because "you deserve it". being a proshipper should be basis for taking away someone's human rights or at least put them on a watchlist.

I'm not a proshipper because i care too much about fictional ships, I'm a proshipper because antishippers sent my friends threats for liking certain ships. I'm a proshipper because i believe i shouldn't have my human rights taken away or be bullied or in jail just for liking a fucking ship. If you believe ship discourse is stupid and immature, then you probably believe people shouldn't be thrown in jail for it.

[normal-nightmare]

[proshipwanderer]

you are not a disgusting person for exploring and enjoying dark themes in fiction. you do not have to defend yourself or justify the content you consume. have fun with it, get freaky and weird with it. you can do whatever you want forever

[ropemaxxed]

reminder u don't need an excuse or explanation to ship nasty ships!! ^_^ trauma / coping or not, its always ok because it's fiction and you owe noone anything!

[onepiecebrainslop]

oh this got me CACKLING

😭

Antis are NOT REAL DUDE.

[internally-weird]

some anti on tiktok: hey guys just so you know 🌺💞 is a proshit combo for mom x daughter, 🐺🍡 means adult x child and 🦷🧠 is cannibalism kink!!

other antis in the comments: omg thank you!! now i know who to block

proshippers who have never seen those combos in their lives: what

[twstcollective]

Leaving the drama aside, let's have some positivity!

You like gore? Awesome! Write your whump stories!

You like age gaps? Great! Is it dad-child or teacher-student?

You like incest? Perfect! Make sure to make it spicy!

You like loli/shota? Nice! They're so small...

No matter what you like, we support you!

[shotatsuki]

I got bored *Shows you very cool blinkies i did using blinkies cafe*