#platonic epic love

[cursedcola]

MallYuu + Red String Theory + Multiverse Theory + Epic The Musical = 2 days of my time and brainrot.

Song: https://youtu.be/d0LNkNI3Y80?si=W0oNGfjk8-eu1iXY

[katerinaaqu]

Like...people who think Achilles and Patroclus are lovers that's great and good for you (I consider myself one of them who interprets them as both lovers and friends because they are not mutually exclusive. I love both interpretations equally)

However if you guys criticize people who want to interpret them as friends and companions and you say "oh there is no way he would go through that end if they were *just* friends!" Or if you consider friendship a "downgrade" then I am glad I am not friends with you...

Because to me friends are like family and I would jump through the fire for them and I wouldn't stop at nothing for them. I don't need to bed someone to care deeply for them.

Be kind and let people interpret their favorite characters as they want. Of course the same goes for the other side too!

[3dogbones]

@freshlyepic GREASER, FRESH AND EPIC DYNAMIC AS THIS MEME? 🤔

[the-warrior-of-the-mind]

-Runs into frame-

I love you Athena, platonically.

-Runs out of frame-

-@the-sorceress-song

W-wut??? I mean I like you too- you’re a good friend-

So- wait- don’t run away-

WHAT DO YOU MEAN.

[fandomly-obsessed]

I want to experience love like Odysseus and Penelope. I want to love someone enough to root our home to the place we first fell in love, knowing that the only way to move the bed we share is to carve a great tree from the ground by its roots; knowing that the only way to destroy our love is to destroy the memory of it. I want to love someone enough to fight countless battles and trudge through the darkest places. I want experience a love so strong that I could do the most horrible of things and still continue through violence and heartbreak for the simple hope to see the one I love once again. I want to love someone enough that I could stand alone for twenty years - while everyone has long moved on - and know from my heart - so deeply connected to theirs - that they will make it home. I want to love someone enough that I can bare my soul to them, bloody and broken and bruised, and know that they will love me just the same.

[thedeafprophet]

On Eurylochus, Mutiny, and Starvation

I've seen a lot of discussion around choices made by the crew, and especially Eurylochus that have often not felt to be quite hitting the point. I've seen quite a few things in passing of analysis that seems to downplay the actions with the cow and make a mocking of a starving man, making him out to be dumb and 'just wanting a burger' or jokes around those lines, or worse, saying that he 'deserved to die' for acts made in desperation. [For as foolish as a notion as a character 'deserving' to die in a tragedy.]

It wouldn't bother me as much, if i hadn't also seen people tend to be dismissive of Eurylochus' character anf struggles in general. I think that does a disservice Eurolcyhus, the severity of the situation, the difficulty of odysseus' choice, and the overall themes.

Hunger and food are a frequent theme and struggle right from the beginning, something we are put to think about from the get go. One of the first things we hear from Eurylochus in full speed ahead is concern over food, most especially with that of the crew and feeding that many people. it is that situation that leads them to polythemus' cave - it is hunger and the aim to fend off starvation that leads to the killing of the sheep. Perhaps it could be said that all this wrath of gods and monsters itself is against humans for daring to try and survive...

This theme isn't just there, we see it again with Circe's island, and her offering of food and that changing the men to pigs. One could say its a reflection of greed, but with the over all notion of the severity, that is not at all comparable in my view. The constant struggle and search for food is vastly important.

and, of course, we see it especially, at the end of mutiny, with Eury. It was illogical, wasn't it? of course he shouldnt have killed those cows, of course he should have known punishment would come. the logic was there, surely he can't have wanted it that bad? Why didn't he just think logically like Odysseus?

except, that's not how hunger works.

For some context, this is a topic that hits close to me personally, as before I had surgery to help mitigate symptoms, I deal with a condition that caused me to be unable to eat properly for 2 years, by the end point I was basically starving on a day to day basis. Hunger is *heavy*. Unless you've experienced it, you cannot fully understand what it does to the body and to the mind.

It affects more than just making you hungry - you become exhausted, your body unable to fuel itself. headaches, brain fog, complete inability to process and think as you're supposed to. Your emotions run haywire, anger and depression can hit you so heavily. Sleep becomes disturbed, everything becomes dizzy, as your body turns inword, destorying itself until there's nothing left.

You cannot function properly at all.

It's easy as a listener to a musical to dismiss hunger, but the reality is vicious, painful, and destructive. in that condition, how could Eurylochus keep strong? keep motivated? think logically?

Combined with all the other intense trauma and loss, Eurylochus and the crew had been pushed to extensive limits. In better times, they would have never made that choice, never turned against Ody that way. Just as Ody would have never sacrificed his men like that, had it not been for the event that had transpired previously. That is the crux of a tragedy, the fact that thingd could have gone differently, but they didnt.

Yes, killing the cows was a illogical choice.

But hunger has a way with you.

No, it wasn't a good choice. It was an action done in desperation, a burst of irrtionatity fuel by hunger and pain. But refusing to understand why that choice was made does the story and its characters a disservice.

[dangoarts]

world's number one shadow blot apologist free my mans he ain't done nothing wrong

bro was born and immediately had its creator throw acid that dissolves its very being onto it (yeow!) and run away in fear like if that doesn't fuck up a newborn idk what does

and then dude has never felt any positive emotion from anyone so naturally lashes out against the world it winds up in when they lash out at it in fear (again ppl react in fear)

forgor what the art book said but it was like it never felt love from others and from having a heart itself so like he was jealous of the toons for knowing what love felt like and that! fucks me up supremely

giving shadow blot a hug would fix everything trust

[donteverblameash]

Completely self-indulgent yapping coming up btw (ALSO THIS IS STRICTLY PLATONIC!!)

I. Want. An. Odysseus. Hug.

I want him to gingerly approach me like I'm a wounded animal, enveloping me in his arms, standing on his toes slightly so he's just a tad bit taller so I can tuck my head under his chin, his beard slightly tickling my forehead. His large hands rest on my back, rubbing up and down until all the unease and worry is gone from my frame. He rocks slightly, and we just stand there until it's all okay.

[mcdbutichangedit]

Would You Fall In Love With Me Again but its Aphmau as Penelope and {insert one of Aphmau's many love interests} as Odysseus.

[jarondont]

Nausicaä: So…did you fight them in the end? Telemachus: Yes, we killed them all, my father and I. Nausicaä: How does it feel to get rid of them? Telemachus: I don’t know. I thought I’d feel relieved for the first time in my life…but there’s only remorse in my heart. It’s almost as if I’m blaming myself for what I’ve done. Nausicaä: But isn’t killing them justified? They’re literally using their courtship of your mother as an excuse. They have been bullying you ever since. Telemachus: Nausi…can I tell you something? Nausicaä: Yes? Telemachus: I…I think I have gotten used to their bullying. Nausicaä: That’s not a good thing, right? Telemachus: I know it’s not. I know it feels wrong to succumb…but this has been my life for years. There was not a day when I wasn’t haunted by their mockery, and there was not a moment when I wasn’t daydreaming about their destruction in my father’s hands. I’ve grown so used to this that sometimes I don’t even know how I can handle my life when it is over—when there is no more suitors to deal with, and no more waiting…no more daydreams. And now that it is over—I think I’ve lost a part of me. But for good or ill—I can’t tell. Nausicaä: Well, can I tell you a story of mine? Telemachus: Sure. Nausicaä: Ever since your father came, bringing his tales to my dreams—there was not a day when I wasn’t thinking about his story. There was not a moment when I wasn’t daydreaming that he would return, perhaps to tell us more about himself. So I waited, and waited, but then I met you. You are not a copy of your father—and you have brought your own story so different from your father’s. I was not expecting this at all—and frankly I was so terrified at the beginning. But then…I find myself attached to it. I find myself…attached to you. And I know my life has indeed been changed forever. And I know it’s changed for the better. Telemachus: Really? Nausicaä: Definitely. So you see, you have reunited with your father—what better thing can you hope for? So just relax, Tele. There are no more suitors to deal with. You don’t have to daydream anymore, now that you have your father. Telemachus: *nods* And now that I have you. Yes, you’re right, Nausi. You’re right.

AHHHHHH

SCREAMING

THEY'RE SO

AHHHHHHHH

[sparkledbun-random]

IM DYING GAHHH-

I recently joined an epic discord server for greeks and we are singing translated parts of the musical (we've translated our own!) and i tried for fun Apollos part, and THEY COMPLIMENTED ME I CAN'T-

i rly rly don't like my voice, a d cronge every time I hear muself talking or singing, so this is new

[mishaesque]

"If all else perished, and he remained, I should still continue to be; and if all else remained, and he were annihilated, the universe would turn to a mighty stranger: I should not seem a part of it."

- Emily Brontë, Wuthering Heights

[hippychick006]

We may have lost the ship poll but I think we can all agree that we won in canon, which is all that really matters in the end.

[samanddeanloveeachothersomuch]

I love how soft Dean is with Sam sometimes. Like when he's hurt,

when he's facing his worst fear,

or when Sam gets emotional.

It shows the deep affection and love for Sam that he has for no one else in his life. He is looking at Sam like Sam is the only thing good in his universe because to Dean he is. Dean knows Sam has immense strength but he knows that because of what Sam's been through in his life he needs someone to encourage him to keep going. Dean's been caring for Sam his entire life and loves Sam more than could ever be explained in words. He loves his baby brother in a way that goes beyond love.

[p4rty4nim4l]

made this for my QPR partner/best buddy <3 I love them so much

[sylphwing]

hm. i do not like chilshi 🤔