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Five things to know about GOP Rep. Robert Fisher and The Red Pill

When state Rep. Robert Fisher testified before the House Legislative Administration Committee last week, he admitted posting on Reddit as pk_atheist, the pseudonym used to create The Red Pill, but he denied -- under oath -- that he is still running the notorious forum that some have called the heart of modern misogyny.

The question was raised due to a report in The Daily Beast (that followed a similar Miscellany Blue investigation), in which reporters identified numerous items that appeared to link Fisher with the current Red Pill moderator, a Redditor using the pseudonym, redpillschool. “Fisher may still be very much an active contributor and chief moderator of The Red Pill,” The Daily Beast concluded.

Fisher explicitly denied that he is continuing to moderate the site as redpillschool. "It's starting to look like a zany conspiracy theory by a liberal rag to me,” he complained in an email to reporters.

It is important for the House committee to determine if Fisher is the current moderator, not only because it would contradict Fisher’s sworn testimony, but also because the committee is limiting its investigation of Fisher’s activities to statements he made after he took the oath of office in December 2016.

We compiled the most compelling clues that suggest Fisher may have simply shed one anonymous persona for another and is continuing to run the site as redpillschool:

1. Fisher and redpillschool sound strikingly similar

In March 2013, redpillschool appeared as a guest on the BBC World Service Newshour program using the alias “Morpheus Manfred.” Here, you can compare his voice, as captured in that broadcast, with a recording of Fisher when he was interviewed on the Tom Brown Show in September 2014.

2. Fisher and redpillschool apparently share a Google Adsense account

Fisher explained the fact that his email address appeared as the DNS administrator for several websites managed by redpillschool by saying he is “a reseller for a web hosting company” and has provided free or low-cost hosting accounts for many people he has never even met.

“I am not responsible for the content on these sites, nor am I endorsing anything on them,” he wrote. “My email address was the default for DNS records when somebody didn't provide me a different address."

Fisher didn’t explain why the Google Adsense publisher ID linked to Puerarchy.com, one of the websites linked to his email address but managed by redpillschool, is also linked to InsideNH.com, a website authored by Fisher and Rep. Nick Zaricki (R-Goffstown) where the legislators discussed issues related to their work in the New Hampshire House. Ad revenue from Puerarchy.com is directed to the same Google account receiving ad revenue from InsideNH.com.

3. Old redpillschool content was edited after the press contacted Fisher

As The Daily Beast reported, some comments written by redpillschool (and captured by the Archive.is project) were edited after The Daily Beast contacted Fisher with questions related to The Red Pill. “[A]rchives of redpillschool’s comments seem to suggest Fisher may have quickly moved to cover his tracks,” The Daily Beast noted.

For example, the version of a message captured on March 8, 2017 adds a sentence about living on the West Coast that was not included in the version of the message captured the day after it was posted on January 11, 2017.

Similarly, another reference to living in California appears in the version of a RedPillSchool comment captured on May 9, 2017 that did not appear in the version captured the day after it was originally posted on October 27, 2016.

4. Reddit comments by Fisher and redpillschool contain significant similarities

Jason Baumgartner, a “big data aficionado” and neuro-linguistic programming analyst, has collected and archived more than three billion Reddit comments and submissions. He responded to a “How many of you think that redpillschool is Robert Fisher?” question on Reddit with an analysis of every single Reddit submission from pk_atheist and redpillschool.

"After reviewing all of the data, I am certain that pk_atheist and redpillschool are both Robert Fisher's accounts,” he wrote in a message to Miscellany Blue. “There are too many similarities between the two accounts.” Here are a few of the similarities he discovered:

Pk_atheist and redpillschool both mentioned the OKCupid online dating site and their frustrations with it:

pk_atheist: "I actually had to quit OKCupid because it was just making me angry. 99% of the profiles that had girls I could be attracted to (i.e. not large) had this self-important BS. They have a lot of expectations."

redpillschool: "But check out OKCupid some time, because you'll see it's female profiles that have the ‘Must be 6' tall, athletic, please no losers thx’ checklist at the bottom. … 80% of women go after 20% of the guys. On OKCupid, women ranked 80% of men as ‘below average.’”

Both frequently used the word "hypergamy" and both capitalize it:

pk_atheist: "I'm going to argue that part of taking the red pill is letting go of the pipe dream that was marriage. Marriage is dead. Hypergamy reigns supreme."

redpillschool: "I see very little conscience, self doubt or regret in the women I know. They simply blame their husbands and are eager to get out of their marriage vows at the earliest opportunity. It's not 1955 any more, it is the decade of Open Hypergamy."

Both mentioned the KETO diet; both suggested that it’s ok to drink diet sodas while following the diet; and both noted that they have lost 25 pounds while on the diet:

pk_atheist: “I really don't follow paleo. I have however lost 25 lbs since July on the keto diet. I will read leangains.com, thanks for taking the time to reply with some meat! … “I've lost a ton of weight on keto and diet soda. Just saying.”

redpillschool: “Diet cola is fine. I do keto and drink diet sodas all the time. Lost 25 pounds. Working on my last 10.”

Both mention theoretical physicist Brian Greene and his book "The Fabric of the Cosmos:"

pk_atheist: Brian Greene argues that we only see time (and entropy) go in one direction because we're on the upswing towards a return to high entropy.

redpillschool: That's not really provably true, and that's why Schrodinger's cat is such an interesting experiment. For instance, we already know via experiment here on earth that we can have twin particles in a superposition until observed- and that's with gravity and some very fancy science to hold the particles for a period of time. (Mostly illustrated in Brian Greene's latest book, if you're interested.)

Both speak about "feminism being a sexual strategy:"

pk_atheist: Interesting perspective. I have long maintained that above all else, feminism is a sexual strategy. It's a long list of accomplishments women have been making to better poise themselves to make sexual decisions. Trying to change the social narriative to say that being a slut is ok is part of the strategy.

redpillschool: I think feminism is a sexual strategy, but not intentionally one. We believe it's an unconscious drive for women called the feminine imperative.

Both use the term "feminine imperative:"

pk_atheist: The only game advice I condemn is one that plays strictly into the feminine imperative. "Don't forget to be respectful, women like that." … Good, you feel guilty about letting women benefit from men's work. The feminine imperative has successfully entered your consciousness.

redpillschool: I think feminism is a sexual strategy, but not intentionally one. We believe it's an unconscious drive for women called the feminine imperative.

Both reference the same three video games: Command & Conquer, Grand Theft Auto and SimCity.

Both mention Gary Taubes, the controversial journalist who has challenged scientists' claims about diet and health.

Both use the expression "and so on and so on."

Both use the expression "down the rabbit hole."

The most frequently-used six word phrase related to women by both pk_atheist and redpillschool is "not all women are like that."

5. Fisher and redpillschool both posted the same time of day, in the same subject areas and using a similar vocabulary

Baumgartner analyzed the time of day pk_atheist and redpillschool posted messages on Reddit and concluded “there is a strong correlation between the two.” He noted “pk_atheist has far less posts than redpillschool by close to an order of magnitude, but there is still enough data to draw some statistical significance.”

“What we see here is a really good indication that the two accounts are at least in the same time-zone, and that they start posting around the same time of the day (the hour of the day is in UTC time),” he wrote. “We also see that there is a slight increase in posts around the 20th UTC hour and then a great falloff after the 22nd hour onwards until the next day.”

Baumgartner took a look at each user’s top 50 subreddits for posting comments and found 23 of the 50 subreddits are the same for both pk_atheist and redpillschool. The list of shared subreddits not related to Manosphere topics includes the gaming, SimCity and startrek subreddits.

Pk_atheist and redpillschool “both share a common vocabulary of over 6,000 words,” Baumgartner noted. His study found they both use certain words with the same frequency. For example, his analysis of their use of words with ten characters or more found that all of pk_atheist’s ten most frequently used words are also used by redpillschool in nearly the same frequency.

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I thought it was a very circular argument that didn’t change anything.” “I didn’t see it as an apology or walking anything back. “I read his letter twice and really viewed it as just going around and around the barn,” he told WMUR. Jasper said Fisher’s statement lacked an apology. “For those of you who read this entire thing to see my resignation, sorry to disappoint.”

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Smaller government, lower taxes, more liberty, gay, straight, and transgender rights, (yes, for all my supposed small mindedness and misogyny, I’m firmly pro LGBT) and family court reform,” Fisher said. “I’m going to continue fighting for what I believe in. Sununu, House Speaker Shawn Jasper, NHGOP Chair Jeanie Forrester, and House Democratic Leader Steve Shurtleff called on Fisher to resign, but he is refusing. I suspect they teach it in journalism courses, but it seems like it should be basic common sense.” “The default position for most on the aptly dubbed ‘gripe corner’ was devil’s advocate, which made for lively debate. As it turns out, context is very important when quoting somebody. “It was a debate about absolute truth that was recurring on my forums back in ,” he wrote in an official statement published by The Laconia Daily Sun. In response to journalist inquiries, he said he would “stand strong for men’s rights.” On Thursday night, he admitted to writing the posts but said most of his comments were taken out of context. He also wrote that women’s personalities are “lackluster and boring, serving little purpose in day to day life.” And once commenting that, “it is literally the body that makes enduring these things worth it.”Īt first, Fisher denied the allegations. Robert Fisher, R-Laconia (Photo Credit: N.H. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really.” He currently doesn’t sit on any committees, at his own request, and out of the 114 votes so far during the 2017 session, Fisher has cast votes in about half of them.įisher is under fire for openly questioning whether “rape is bad.” He wrote, “I’m going to say it - Rape isn’t an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. In 2014, he switched to the Republican Party and is now serving his second term in office. House of Representatives, in which he ran as a Democrat. In 2012, Fisher, under the alias “pk_atheist,” created the The Red Pill forum near the end of his first campaign for the N.H. The Daily Beast first reported Tuesday a link between Fisher and the online Reddit forum “The Red Pill.” The Red Pill currently claims 200,000 subscribers as a “discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.”

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This leaves House leaders with only a few choices on how to handle the situation. Robert Fisher, R-Laconia, to resign, but he refuses to do so. Chris Sununu and the New Hampshire Republican Party have called for Rep. The news story that has made the rounds this past week involved accusations that a New Hampshire lawmaker created a misogynistic online message board, making derogatory and inappropriate comments about women.

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Crowdfunding campaign aims to unseat virulently sexist r/RedPill creator and state rep Robert Fisher

Claire Everhart, a woman based in Washington, D.C., is determined to unseat New Hampshire representative and virulent misogynist Robert Fisher in 2018.

Last month, the Daily Beast unmasked Fisher as the founder of The Red Pill, a subreddit for men's rights activists and pick-up artists to join together in their hatred of women.

Fisher, who reportedly goes by Pk_atheist on the site, has made comments mocking women's "subpar intelligence" and decrying the feminist movement for stripping men — particularly fathers and husbands — of their rights.

The worst of his comments was posted in 2008, when Fisher argued that rape isn't an "absolute bad."

"I'm going to say it — rape isn't an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot," Fisher wrote at the time. "I think he'd say it's quite good, really."

Everhart's heard enough. This week, she launched a campaign on CrowdPac to crowdfund a future female candidate's campaign against Fisher in the midterm elections. Read more (5/3/17)

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Rep. Robert Fisher looks on as people testify against his comments about women. @WMUR9 http://pic.twitter.com/YL9n14ThmU

— Kristen Carosa (@KCarosaWMUR) May 9, 2017

Last month, an investigation by The Daily Beast revealed that the man who created Reddit’s horrifically misogynistic Red Pill forum is currently serving as a GOP lawmaker in New Hampshire. Now in his second term as a state representative, Robert Fisher didn’t deny the allegations, but admitted in a statement that he had “said some injudicious things about the opposite sex following a bad breakup” and that in his early 20s (when the forum was created), “false rape accusations became a very real concern of” his. Rape denial is a favorite, frequent topic in the forum.

Fisher ostensibly stepped down as the page’s moderator in 2013, shortly after losing his first run for office. (Running, by the way, as a Democrat.) But a new article at the Daily Beast alleges Fisher is actually still running the forum under the handle redpillschool. That account was created the day before Fisher, as Pk_atheist, handed over control of the group, and has ties to websites registered to Fisher’s personal email accounts.

If Fisher is operating as redpillschool (which he says is “categorically false”), it’s an important part of this whole story. Because Tuesday afternoon, Fisher faced a legislative committee looking into whether action should be taken against him. They can only make that decision, though, based on comments and actions from the current legislative period, meaning this calendar year.

Tuesday’s hearing was conducted by a 13-member panel. Reports indicate that no one showed up to defend Fisher, except for Fisher himself.

No one has testified in defense of Fisher today. Also noteworthy: Almost everyone testifying against him is a woman. #nhpolitics

— Kathleen Ronayne (@kronayne) May 9, 2017

Fisher himself admitted he started the forum, but don’t worry, everybody, he swears he’s “never hated women.” It’s just a matter of those “injudicious” statements being taken “out of context.” (Aren’t they always?) He said the entire hearing was a “poor use of our time.” To his credit, Fisher does seem to be an expert on poor uses of time, as Daily Beast notes he “has refused to sit on a committee and shows up to vote only half the time.” He also reportedly passed around a simplistic hot take of a letter on the New Hampshire transgender bathroom bill as proof that he’s totally doing his job.

I know the committee has to work within the limited timeframe of the current session, but the mere creation of the forum is enough for most voters, as well as Fisher’s colleagues, to want his removal. (Or, at the very least–hopefully–prevent his re-election.) But if he is operating as redpillschool, it’s clear his opinions on women haven’t changed in the slightest, and can’t be written off as post-breakup, early 20s youthful foolishness. Here are just a few chilling comments that user has made. (Content warning for rape, sexual assault, and assholedom.)

— He wrote a three-part series titled “All Women Lie About Rape.” He claims the title in facetious, and meant to imply that some women do, in fact, lie about rape. Which isn’t a whole lot better.

— He wrote in a comment on his own post, “You don’t need a strategy for rape, other than ‘where do i buy roofies, and what’s the best brand of duct tape?”

— He believes “Feminists are obsessed with rape because we live in a rape fantasy culture, where feminists wish they were hot enough to be rape-able.”

–Perhaps most upsetting, redpillschool admitted he has committed sexual assault. “I have had A LOT of sex in my life. I think by feminist-definition some of it was rape.” He went on to spew all-too typical vileness. “You know what the crazy thing is? It was totally consensual sex that the chicks were into and came back for more. But yeah, we live in a culture of Schrodinger’s Rapist, where the only difference between a rapist and a non-rapist is what the girl decides the next day (or week). It’s impossible not to be a rapist if you plan on having relations with women.”

Even the official statement he released after the original Daily Beast article doesn’t paint him in a great light. For starters, in addressing one of the “most egregious” quotes from the Red Pill forum (that rape isn’t an “absolute bad” because the rapist “probably likes it a lot”), wrote, “Don’t I have sisters and a mother or some sort of moral compass? The media says NO! But friends and family have contacted me to assure me I didn’t become a rapist over night. I feel like I should listen to them.” He explains, “What was the context of that statement? It was a debate about absolute truth that was recurring on my forums back in ’08.” Because Fisher really doesn’t see any problem with making light of rape and mocking victims of rape in order to play “devil’s advocate.”

He also addressed the numerous comments he made about women lacking intelligence. In one such post, he describes how intelligent his mother and sisters are, and how he’s never met another woman who appeared that smart. In his recent column, he writes, “Sure, my experience would eventually lead me to discover that all is not lost in the bleak world of dating, as I’m in a very happy relationship today. But my god did it suck when I realized just how high of a bar my family set for my expectations, with no preparation for the eventual realization that most people won’t be what you expect.” Does that sound like he stands by his claim that women as a whole aren’t as intelligent as his family members? It does, doesn’t it?

There is a lot more bullshit in that column to wade through if you feel so inclined.

At the hearing today, the committee heard testimony from constituents and colleagues (mostly women) voicing their concern in having this kind of rampant misogyny in the legislature.

Amanda Grady Sexton of the New Hampshire Coalition Against Domestic and Sexual Violence said “The representative is promoting the false narrative that victims are liars.”

Rep. Linda Tanner said, “There will be women who will suffer bullying, abuse or become victims of rape, sexual assault and domestic violence as a result of the remarks, actions and website made by Mr. Fisher.”

Rep. Debra Altschiller testified, “I have sat in emergency rooms with rape victims while nurses and doctors gather DNA evidence for possible prosecution. I can tell you with certainty, rape is no joke. When you use it to fumble around with other rape apologists in chatrooms designed to discuss sexual strategies with other misogynists, you are not just participating in rape culture. You are grooming it, you are cultivating it, you are growing it.”

You can bet we’ll be keeping an eye on this story.

  (via Daily Beast, Jezebel, Concord Monitor, image: Sausyn/Flickr)

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Last November, voters in New Hampshire’s Lakes Region re-elected to the state house of representatives a man who appears to be one of the secret architects of the internet’s misogynistic “Manosphere.”

The homegrown son of a preacher, 31-year-old Robert Fisher is a Republican who represents New Hampshire’s Belknap County District 9. In addition to his legislative duties, Fisher owns a local computer-repair franchise, and in his spare time, seems to have created the web’s most popular online destination for pickup artistry and men’s rights activists, The Red Pill, according an investigation by the Daily Beast.

An investigation into Fisher’s online aliases found a trail of posts linking the lawmaker to the username Pk_atheist, the creator of The Red Pill—an online Reddit community of nearly 200,000 subscribers that promotes itself as a “discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.”

Now this is some great investigative journalism.

It’s possible that now, four-and-a-half years after Red Pill’s founding, Fisher may regret his creation. When reached for comment by phone, Fisher denied participation in the Red Pill forum, claiming not to know what The Red Pill was. Though he did say he had heard of the men’s rights movement, he said he hadn’t heard of PUA. “What is a pickup artist?” he asked.

Within hours of contacting Rep. Fisher, and after delivering by email a summary of his apparent connections to The Red Pill kingpin, his two primary Reddit usernames had been wiped, and four blogs connected to him were deleted or made private. He has not returned additional requests for comment.

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Last November, voters in New Hampshire’s Lakes Region [Belknap Country District 9] re-elected to the state house of representatives [ 31-year old Robert Fischer] a [Republican] man who appears to be one of the secret architects of the internet’s misogynistic “Manosphere”...[creating] the web’s most popular online destination for pickup artistry and men’s rights activists, The Red Pill...

An investigation into Fisher’s online aliases found a trail of posts linking the lawmaker to the username Pk_atheist, the creator of The Red Pill—an online Reddit community of nearly 200,000 subscribers...

When reached for comment by phone, Fisher denied participation in the Red Pill forum, claiming not to know what The Red Pill was...Within hours of contacting Rep. Fisher, and after delivering by email a summary of his apparent connections to The Red Pill kingpin, his two primary Reddit usernames had been wiped, and four blogs connected to him were deleted or made private. He has not returned additional requests for comment...

Fisher’s past comments on a host of Reddit forums are arguably far more disturbing...He blasted women for their “sub-par intelligence.” He said that women’s personalities are “lackluster and boring, serving little purpose in day to day life.” And Fisher once commented, “It is literally the [female] body that makes enduring these things worth it”...

ROBERT FISCHER (New Hampshire Republican State House of Representative; from r/TheRedPill in 2012): Marriage, and yes, female oppression, slut shaming, religion, these were all a means to control hypergamy [infidelity]. Marriages might be considered loveless, and women might have been unhappy, but for men it meant marriages that lasted, commitments that continued, and protection against the fickle whims of females...

ROBERT FISCHER (New Hampshire Republican State House of Representative; from his blog, Dating American in 2012): To give women autonomy is to take away the very thing that made marriage a realistic institution… what I dislike is the general attitude that somehow we owe [women] something for sex…Women enjoy the autonomy that feminism has afforded them…But don’t expect the relics from back in the day to continue to benefit you without the sacrifices you were making

ROBERT FISCHER (New Hampshire Republican State House of Representative; from r/TheRedPill from “Welcome to the Red Pill” in October 2012): A guy can approach a woman, be assertive, and if she’s attracted, there’s a hookup. Yet, if he’s not attractive, this EXACT behavior is “creepy”…If you’re unattractive, feminism tells us, you’re likely a rapist… men are tip-toeing to make sure they don’t accidentally become rapists themselves.

On r/TheRedPill, Pk_atheist [New Hampshire Republican State House of Representative Robert Fischer] admitted in December 2012 to supposedly video-taping sexual encounters with women in order to protect against false rape allegations. Fisher said he was not paranoid, but rather “statistically I’m overdue for a false rape allegation.”

In 2008, writing under the username FredFredrickson, Fisher posited that the notion that “rape is bad” was not an absolute truth. He wrote, “I’m going to say it—Rape isn’t an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really.”

Though he stated he “doesn’t advocate breaking the law,” Fisher said online in 2012 that a 40-year-old man asking to see the breasts of a 15-year-old wasn’t creepy. Instead, he said it was “evolutionarily advantageous and perfectly natural”...

In the past, Fisher insisted the Red Pill forum is misunderstood: “Unfortunately to the outsider, it just looks like misogyny,” he wrote in 2012, “or like we’re just bitter”

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#GovernorSununu #WomensRights #Advocacy #HeForShe #WereAllInThisTogether #LetterADay Dear Governor Sununu, Thank you for publicly decrying Representative Robert Fisher abhorrent behavior under the Pk_atheist and redpillschool pseudonyms and for requesting his resignation from office. It speaks to the quality of your leadership when you can hold one of your own party members accountable for such reprehensible behavior. While I’m sure Fisher doesn’t speak for the entire party’s views on women I do hope that having this insight into the implicit bias in place here inspires you and others like you to investigate where such prejudice plays a hand in legislative decisions that are likely to hurt ½ of your constituents. There’s a real learning opportunity and possibility for positive change if someone is brave enough to spearhead it. On behalf of women everywhere… Sincerest thanks, Triffany Hammond

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Waiting For Rep Fisher To Resign

Yesterday morning, The Daily Beast published an incredibly disturbing report in which Young Republican State Representative Robert Fisher (R-Laconia) was unmasked as one of the secret architects of the Internet’s misogynistic “Manosphere” as the founder of the “Red Pill” forum.

On the forum, Rep. Fisher went on numerous offensive, baseless, and misogynistic rants against women. For example  he attacked women for what he perceived to be their “sub-par intelligence,” accused women for getting a free ride because a woman’s body “grants [them] equal footing with somebody bringing intelligence or a personality,” and that rape isn’t “an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot.”

Executive Director of the Young Democrats, State Representative Amelia Keane of Nashua issued the following statement in response to this damning report:

“Representative Fisher’s behavior is nothing short of repulsive. He should be deeply ashamed of himself. There is no excuse for the type of hateful and ignorant rhetoric anywhere in our state, none the less from someone elected to our State House to serve the men and women in his community.  If Rep. Fisher has any semblance of decency or shame left, he will resign his seat.

This is particularly disturbing given the fact that legislation to strengthen the rape-shield law is working its way through the legislature.  We hope and expect his Republican colleagues to call for his resignation, particularly given their support of a rape-shield and in clear contrast, Representative Fisher’s clear predatory and misogynistic behavior as well as creating an permission structure for disrespect and abuse.”

House Democratic Leader Steve Shurtleff (D-Penacook) released the following statement after seeing the report:

“I am shocked and disturbed by the report linking Representative Robert Fisher to deeply offensive statements and the creation of a misogynistic online forum.  The posts linked to Representative Fisher, which include chilling comments in defense of rape, are beyond reprehensible and have absolutely no place in civilized discourse.  If these allegations are true, I urge Speaker Jasper to join with me in requesting that Representative Fisher resign his seat in the New Hampshire House of Representatives.”

Today, after multiple calls for Fisher’s resignation including Republican Speaker of the House Shawn Jasper,  Governor Sununu has been completely silent.

“It is deeply discouraging but not surprising to see Governor Sununu remain silent on Robert Fisher’s unmasking, the same way he has hemmed and hawed on so many issues. True leaders lead by example by standing up to bullies and misogynists, something Sununu has still yet to do. Is this the kind of rhetoric and behavior Sununu thinks is acceptable in the Republican Party? He should follow the lead of both parties in the House by expressing his desire for Fisher’s resignation. This is not a partisan issue, it’s an issue of right and wrong. Perhaps it is time for Speaker Jasper and Governor Sununu to start speaking again so that, at the very least, they can be united on this one issue,” stated NHDP Chair Ray Buckley.

UPDATE 1PM

“Representative Fisher’s comments are horrendous and repulsive and his resignation is certainly in order,” Sununu said in a statement emailed to WMUR by his office.

See below for notable excerpts from the Daily Beast exposé:

The Republican Lawmaker Who Secretly Created Reddit’s Women-Hating ‘Red Pill’

An investigation into Fisher’s online aliases found a trail of posts linking the lawmaker to the username Pk_atheist, the creator of The Red Pill—an online Reddit community of nearly 200,000 subscribers which promotes itself as a “discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.”

In a state with one representative to every 3,200 people, many of Fisher’s female constituents are likely to know him personally—whether or not they know what he’d once posted about women online. And those comments were just the start.

…this community also subscribes to the beliefs that women lack both intelligence and substance, are programed to cheat on their partners, and expire after the age of 30. Its darkest sections are heavy with rape denialand apologia.

On The Red Pill, Fisher commonly expressed disappointment that the institutions of marriage and religion were destroyed by women’s equality. He maintained that as a result of financial independence, women were no longer compelled to remain faithful and as a result, men needed to protectively adapt their sexual strategy.

“To give women autonomy is to take away the very thing that made marriage a realistic institution…  what I dislike is the general attitude that somehow we owe [women] something for sex… Women enjoy the autonomy that feminism has afforded them… But don’t expect the relics from back in the day to continue to benefit you without the sacrifices you were making,” Fisher wroteon his blog Dating American, in 2012—just weeks before establishing The Red Pill.

Feminism took the lid off pandora’s box, but the mothers, and the daughters of those mothers never internalized, learned, or passed down the concept of responsibility for their freedoms, only the freedom itself.” Fisher wrote in 2013.

Of gaming women, Fisher said, “[women have] absolutely done this to themselves. I feel zero regret or shame pumping and dumping.”

He felt it was unjust that women get a free ride, believing “a pair of boobs grants [them] equal footing with somebody bringing intelligence or a personality.”

Fisher said he was not paranoid, but rather “statistically I’m overdue for a false rape allegation.”

“You can’t have sex with this many women without getting one,” he argued.

He wrote, “I’m going to say it- Rape isn’t an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really.”

Though he stated he “doesn’t advocate breaking the law,” Fisher said online in 2012 that a 40-year-old man asking to see the breasts of a 15-year-old wasn’t creepy. Instead, he said it was “evolutionarily advantageous and perfectly natural.”

In service of this freedom, Fishers claimed he installed a video recorder in his room. “There is literally no legal protection I can think of that could eliminate the risk of a previous sexual partner of mine falsely accusing me of rape, no matter what the circumstances. I now have a video recorder in my room,” he posted.

Since the story broke yesterday there have been many local articles on Rep Fisher.  Below are just a few. 

WMUR: State lawmaker admits saying ‘some injudicious things’ about women

House Speaker Shawn Jasper, R-Hudson, told WMUR in an interview he was “absolutely disgusted” by the posts attributed to Fisher in The Daily Beast report. Jasper said that because Fisher has not broken any laws, he cannot call on him to resign from his seat, but the speaker said, “I wish he would resign. It would be the honorable thing to do under the circumstances…”

“I would imagine that his constituents will see this information and I can only hope that this is addressed at the ballot box,” Jasper said.

Fisher told WMUR in a brief telephone call, however, that he has no intention of resigning…

Union Leader: ‘Red Pill’ puts online spotlight on NH rep

Fisher concluded his statement to the Union Leader by writing: “Here’s my message to the public: I am not disappearing. I will continue to stand strong for men’s rights and the rights of all…

Concord Monitor: State representative takes flak for misogynist online forum

Boston Magazine: Report: N.H. State Rep Created “Red Pill,” Reddit’s Misogyny Forum

New York Magazine: Reddit’s Hypermisogynist ‘Red Pill’ Forum Was Started by a New Hampshire State Legislator

A new report from the Daily Beast has seemingly unmasked the creator of Reddit’s infamous Red Pill forum. The /r/TheRedPill subreddit is the site’s main hub for discussing pickup-artist (PUA) techniques and the struggle for men’s rights. It counts just shy of 200,000 subscribers (and far more readers), mostly there to discuss how feminism is not really about equality, but about oppressing men.

Uproxx: A GOP Lawmaker has been revealed as the creator of Reddit’s Anti-Woman ‘Red Pill’ Forum

The far right tends to use the term “red pill” as a catch-all to describe social attitudes and indoctrination… but it mostly comes from the notorious anti-woman Reddit forum r/redpill. Now, the founder of that forum has been tracked down, and he’s a GOP lawmaker.

Waiting For Rep Fisher To Resign was originally published on NH LABOR NEWS

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An investigation into Fisher’s online aliases found a trail of posts linking the lawmaker to the username Pk_atheist, the creator of The Red Pill—an online Reddit community of nearly 200,000 subscribers that promotes itself as a “discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.”

A post by Pk_atheist in the early days of the forum advertises the author’s blog, Dating American, a blog that immediately precipitated the establishment of The Red Pill in 2012 and which was “dedicated to the woes of dating in the American culture.” On the “about the author” section of Dating American, the author, who calls himself “Desmond,” promotes two other blogs he’s “authored”: Existential Vortex and Explain God. Performing a search of the unique URL for Existential Vortex led to a comment on an ex-Christian message board again advertising the blog, existentialvortex.blogspot.com. This post, written under the alias “Interested,” provided the keystone that connected Pk_atheist and Robert Fisher. First, the post revealed the user was the author of Existential Vortex (and thus, Dating American). Second, in the user’s bio, he stated his band—The Five Nines—had a new album out. Robert Fisher is the sole member of his band, The Five Nines.

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Injudicious statements: ‘I have every right to be fucking angry. These cunts are rude. Fuck’em’

(Photo: Tim Horrigan)

Testifying under oath before members of the House Legislative Administration Committee investigating his activities, state House Rep. Robert Fisher confessed to being responsible for creating one of the web’s most misogynistic destinations but told the committee, “I have never hated women.”

“Several years ago,” he conceded, “I made some injudicious statements regarding women and my frustrations with dating.” A previously unreported blog dating from 2012, apparently created by a writer using pseudonyms now linked to Fisher, adds to the collection of misogynistic statements.

The two-term Republican lawmaker has admitted to being pk_atheist, the previously anonymous Reddit user who created and moderated The Red Pill. Within weeks of creating the infamous subreddit in late 2012, a separate WordPress blog linked to the forum debuted.

“Who am I?” the site’s author asked. “I’m Desmond. I am the curator/admin of the /r/TheRedPill subreddit. My handle on reddit is pk_atheist.” (Daily Beast documented Fisher’s use of the Desmond pseudonym on other websites in late 2012.)

The Antidate (tagline: “You've been poisoned. Quick, take this”) includes just three posts, all dated in late December 2012. A historical snapshot of the site, maintained on the Wayback Machine, confirms the blog and the current content were live in 2013.

(Screen capture: The Antidate)

“Women are blatent (sic) and narcissistic,” pk_atheist wrote. “They do not hide their atrociousness. They lie, cheat, and create a public environment where they deride others for the very things they themselves do. Fuck em.”

In a post titled, “There’s a reason to be angry,” pk_atheist spewed with rage. “I think I’ve got a good reason to be angry,” he wrote. “Because women lie. And no matter how much of a strategy it is, no matter how much evolutionary psychology you’ve got to back this up, no matter how much sense it makes, it’s still unattractive to me. And I can be ok with this.”

“Women lie about what they like. They lie about what’s respectable in society. They have expectations of the people around them, but they lie about the morality of it,” he continued. “I am expected to be a nice, kind gentleman that does the right thing all the time. It’s expected of me. But women have no such compulsion.” […]

“Well, I have every right to be fucking angry,” pk_atheist concluded. “These cunts are rude. Fuck’em.”

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Travis Gettys at The Raw Story:

A Republican state lawmaker has been revealed as the creator of the “Red Pill” online haven for pickup artists and men’s rights activists.

The Daily Beast reported that Robert Fisher, who won re-election in November to New Hampshire’s House of Representatives, appears to have set up the misogynist Reddit community that boasts nearly 200,000 subscribers.

The website found a trail of posts linking the 31-year-old Fisher to the user name Pk_atheist, the creator of The Red Pill forum that describes itself as a “discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.”

An investigation links Fisher to a variety of online aliases dating back to his high school days, which helped reporters track his activity across a variety of forums and blogs over nearly 15 years.

Fisher denied any knowledge of The Red Pill forum, and he admitted hearing about the men’s rights movement but denied knowing what a pickup artist was, although his posts reveal a familiarity with pickup artist jargon.

The two primary accounts linked to Fisher by The Daily Beast were deleted within hours after its reporter contacted the lawmaker.

His Facebook page shows Fisher is chief operating officer of Same Day Computer, which operates two computer repair shops in New Hampshire, and the sole member of the band The Five Nines.

Fisher’s online posts attack women for their “sub-par intelligence,” and he said their “personalities are “lackluster and boring, serving little purpose in day to day life,” reported The Daily Beast.

“It is literally the [female] body that makes enduring these things worth it,” he said in another comment.

A Daily Beast examination of Fisher’s posts reveal complaints that women are repelled by boasts about his own business success and paranoia that he’ll be accused of date rape.

“Dude, I’m attractive and a business man,” he posted in 2012. “I own a small empire. I’m also running for political office, and I’m incredibly outgoing… And this site [OkCupid] files me in next to millions of other guys. Obviously I’m going to have more luck IRL.”

Fisher bought his computer repair business from Joshua Youssef, a failed state senate candidate who makes frequent appearances on CNN as a Trump supporter.

Most recently, Youssef told CNN that he’d witnessed widespread voter fraud but admitted under follow-up questioning that he couldn’t prove his claims.

Youssef, a men’s rights activist, violated New Hampshire election law in 2012 when he published a deceptive blog intended to make it appear that his ex-wife’s attorney endorsed his campaign.

He complained on Reddit that “the corruption, greed, lies, and abject depravity of the feminist system” had violated his rights during a child custody case, and Fisher came to his defense online.

Fisher stepped down as lead moderator of the Reddit community in 2016, two years after winning a statehouse seat, but continued to contribute to the forum under the alias Pk_atheist.

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For years, Reddit’s r/TheRedPill forum has been one of the worst corners of the internet. It’s the home of the pickup artist movement, it gave Milo Yiannapolis a fawning fanbase, and it’s the hub of the perceived ���manosphere”–a community built around the “men’s rights” philosophy that feminism is a sham built to oppress men.

Reddit is deliberately designed to protect anonymity. But that doesn’t mean users don’t also have to work to protect themselves–something that someone probably should have told Robert Fisher of New Hampshire, who has just been outed by The Daily Beast, via a trail of usernames and custom URLs with ties to Fisher’s email address, as the creator of the misogynistic forum.

Fisher, by the way, also happens to be a member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives, not that the connection is very surprising. If I had to name the two communities most vocal in their loathing of women, I’d probably go with Red Pill dudes and the GOP.

In addition to Red Pill, Fisher’s reported aliases had also written and published a pickup artist site, a blog attempting to “Explain God,” and one site titled “Existential Vortex.” He also was or maybe still is a singer-songwriter and kazooist in an “indieelectronic” band. Basically, he sounds like exactly the sort of bro-ish college kid, straight off a few frat party rejections and his first philosophy class, whom you would expect to found a misogynistic Reddit forum with a name referencing The Matrix. (Except Fisher had, at the time of Red Pill’s creation, aged out of the follies of youth excuse. He’s 31 now.)

Fisher’s reported “Pk_atheist” alias started the subreddit in October 2012, just before he lost his first election—one he ran as a Democrat. He won his seat in November of 2014, by which time the subreddit had grown to 83,000 members. He had already stepped down as a moderator in early 2013, but continued to be active in the community.

The Daily Beast writes that “within hours of contacting Rep. Fisher, and after delivering by email a summary of his apparent connections to The Red Pill kingpin, his two primary Reddit usernames had been wiped, and four blogs connected to him were deleted or made private.”

[Update: His own colleagues, on both sides of the aisle, are already calling for his resignation. Fisher responded with a statement asserting he is “not disappearing,” adding, “I will continue to stand strong for men’s rights and the rights of all.”]

But the internet doesn’t let you hide from your awfulness that easily. Through archived posts and comment threads, we have way too clear a window into this man’s mind and his motivations for starting this giant sexism feeding ground. Here are just a few direct quotes.

Content warning for, well, for everything Red Pill is about. (Misogyny and rape denial abound.)

–If you want the short version of his views on women: “I find women’s personalities in general to be lackluster and boring, serving little purpose in my day to day life. So I usually only compare body types.”

–“Because when I told myself I thought they were smart, I really had the footnote in the back of my head … smart … for a woman.”

–“I don’t hate women. I just understand what use they are to me. Stimulating conversation is not one of them.”

–“Understand that in the old days, women were not brought up the way they are today. Before feminism, there was less freedom, and therefore it was not necessary to teach women consequence. Consequence was strictly a man’s game.”

–“Women are not oppressed- they’re literally free from a lot of the responsibilities men are- to the extent where women have no need for the functioning every-day knowledge that most men have by the age of 18 … If you took the conversation skills, the sub-par intelligence, the lack of curiosity and put it in a man’s body- would you hang out with that guy? No! Would he be successful? Hell no! Those things are useless without a woman’s body attached.”

–In a post with “seduction” advice, he proposes “There’s a good girl voice inside each woman telling her that she needs to make sure to be proper and avoid being a slut.” He follows up with a lot of tips on how to invade the “good girl’s” personal space and trick her into letting out the “slut.”

–In response to a question about the Free the Nipple movement: “Hot women are a cartel, and they will continue to keep prices as high as possible. Anybody “freeing” their nipples will either be low-quality, or they will have a smear campaign against them to make them seem low-quality, despite the equality implications supposedly working for the cartel.”

–He defended being sexually attracted to teenage girls. “15 year old girls have boobs. Puberty doesnt strike at 18 overnight. Secondly, not creepy- 15 year old girls and guys are commonly sexually active. Its just illegal.”

–In one of his many comments alleging women frequently falsely accuse men of rape, he says he has a video camera in his room, presumably to record his exploits for proof of innocence.

It’s bad enough that someone could hold all of these beliefs, let alone feel confident to enough to put them out in public (even if anonymously so). Add to that the fact that there are, as of now, nearly 200,000 subscribers to the subreddit.

But nothing is scarier than knowing that this is what at least some (and some is too many) of the men who make our country’s laws think about women. And if you think Fisher’s purported Reddit persona is all talk, it’s not. It’s clear that his misogyny infects his platform.

Taking a quick look at Fisher’s terrible, stock-photo-filled campaign website, you can see the threads. In the site’s “Family” section (complete with a stock picture of what I assume is a random family of strangers, so you know he really cares), he says he wants to “strengthen the family.” But all that seems to mean to him is something about the family court legal system. He writes, “It is long over-due to bring oversight and accountability to our family courts. Every parent deserves justice in our courts regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, or orientation.”

This obsession with family courts looks to date back to 2012, when his colleague and fellow men’s rights activist Joshua Youssef began publicly decrying the “feminist judicial tyranny” over a custody battle with his ex-wife. A reddit username the Daily Beast attributes to Youssef posted a lengthy rant about the “corruption, deception, greed, lawlessness, and feminist entitlement-mindedness, of the family court” to /theredpill, with Fisher in the comments defending him.

Remember that comment about “low quality” women exposing their nipples? Another one of New Hampshire’s Reps, Al Baldasaro, insulted the physical appearance of a female legislator who was fighting a bill, written by an all-male team, which would have outlawed breastfeeding in public.

Just four days after the 2014 election that put him in the New Hampshire House of Representatives, with only 100 subscribers, Pk_atheist wrote a manifesto of sorts, explaining the point of the, as of then, two-week-old forum.

“Our culture has become a feminist culture,” he wrote. “A president cannot be elected today without succumbing to the feminist narrative and paying them tribute. How many times has Obama given credit for his manhood to his wife? How many times has the debate hinged on women’s pay gap – which is a myth that gets lip service because if you don’t you’re a misogynist!”

Yet he maintained, “It’s too easy to blame feminism for our troubles.” He’s all for equal rights, he says, although he takes care to specify, “Equal rights are something I strongly am in support of. For men and women.” As opposed to unequal equality, I suppose.

His big message is that feminism has led not to equal rights, but to female domination. Women, as he puts it, control the conversation. “I am here to say, for better or for worse, the frame around public discourse is a feminist frame, and we’ve lost our identity because of it.”

Therefore men, he proclaims, need to take back this role of central dominance from women. The Red Pill is “men’s sexual strategy,” designed to counter feminism, which is, apparently, nothing more than a sexual strategy itself.

This, through the Daily Beast’s sleuthing, appears to be Robert Fisher’s worldview. This is a man who gave a space to hundreds of thousands of others looking to blame and conquer women, while simultaneously being elected into public office, where he has the ability to affect real policy.

Here’s the kicker, and keep this in mind the next time you think your vote doesn’t matter: In Fisher’s small New Hampshire district, he won his re-election by only 700 votes. He won his first election in 2014 by 276 votes. Squashing the internet’s rampant misogyny is a challenge too big for any one of us, but if you’re eligible to vote, you can do your part to keep immature, idiotic monsters like this one out of office.

  (via Daily Beast, image: Shutterstock)

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