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hey, thanks for the mbti discussions KO! It was fun talking to you about it. This might the last one from me about damon and kai though, because i cant lie, they really never interest me that much before, so for me to even put two and two together about their characters this week already got me feeling ☠️🙂‍↕️😵‍💫 however, unlike kai, it's kinda obvious in the way that i was pulling for straws to understand damon's arc, because ngl, even thinking about him then writing his name in the same discussion post with emmy made me feel nauseous, lmfao! (If you cant already tell, i really hate his character so much!!! 😭🤣)

But i agree with you in that i believe damon's characterisation suffered from PD wanting to do the most most mostest everything for him. Like Rika. Yeah no wonder idgaf about them. I hate it when authors just can't write characters with flaws and try to make characters be so complicated, only for us to watch them fail to do that by the end of the series. Like what was the point of all that toomfooleries? Damon and Rika look like clowns! I laughed when they said they wanted to build the world because they got no skills to execute that. Just because you got ideas doesn't mean you have the skills or talent to make them a reality. That's what Damon and Rika's characters felt like to me.

PD could just give their stories one or two trajectories and stick with that, but nooooo they just HAD to be and be in everything 🙄 At this point i'm trying to see the good in Damon's character or see any valid points to make him likeable TO ME but he always failed, because i feel like he was never gonna be enough, again FOR ME. Like Damon's character doesn't feel like he deserves all that happiness by the end of the series. His risk was not worth the pay, unlike Emory. I like villains, i like anti-heroes, but not the Wallmart versions like Damon Torrance. For example, i LOVE LOVE LOVEEEE Victor and Eli from Vicious. V.E. Schwab gave them clear trajectories and they never had to be everything or anyone else, never had to act like they're good or suddenly be everything like Damon was.

That's why Vicious' villain arcs are super interesting. Rin from the Poppy War by R.F Kuang had a really interesting hero-anti-hero-villain arc too, and she actually scare me sometimes with her craziness, hence why i really like her character. Pippa from a Good Girl's Guide to Murder had similar arc, and by the end of the trilogy made me feel like "damn, this is what dark romance could look like if authors have good writing, good plot, would want to deal with morally grey characters who have good reasons to be one, characterisation doesnt seem to come out of their asses but logical to the surroundings, wants and the nature of the MCs, and actually understand how romance can work even when there's no sex in their books, AT ALL". Dark romance today's just full of shocking sex/harems/orgies, absurd ass plot and "dark, broody, tall" characters. I truly believe that PD's bias towards Damon was what cheapened his arc and his potential.

Ugh sometimes i wish i am a damon torrance lover (or even bystander) so that i can relate to the majority of this fandom, but i can't choose who i like, and i definitely do not like him or his characterisation at all. Noo bcausee it's the way you counter my observation of him and even after some thinking, i really don't have any resoonse to that, because idgaf enough about him to think deeper, hahahahaha! Omg i realised today that i can be really bias with characters i hate, heh. Anywaym idk. I wish his fans, or rika and winter's fans are active on tumblr making discussion posts, because at least then maybe i can understand more of their fav characters?

Idk. These three, along with Michael are the shallowest characters in the series, and maybe that's why i don't like them? i would rather read about Micah and Rory's story than reread their books, tbh. Idk, their motives always felt so surfaced-level no matter how many times PD liked to write their conversations as "meaningful". I remember One ironic moment in Kill Switch when Damon was upset at Winter for having "a shallow heart" for not trusting him and i was like 😭🤣🤣🤣 broooooo, talking about a pot calling a kettle black. Like why was he looking down on Winter right now? She was the 16 year old blind girl who had to deal with the mess you started, not you! You deserved that jail time, not only for lying but for all the petty crimes in the phone too! OMFG! Like why do yall think yall soulmates for life? You both are dumb, AND SHALLOW! To a certain extend, You gotta attract what you are, and what you like most.

And Damon liked her enough that her shallowness didn't matter before, so why now? Winter too with Damon, she never expected him to be smart or good or with depth. She didn't even give a fuck if he was someone she didnt know when she was horny af. Like girl youre blind? And you dont have any allies at home or in town, why are you being YOUR best ally then? She literally just kept on believing lies left and right because she want to escape her life. Other than Damon, Dancing was the only thing that made her feel alive. So why was she even surprised taht he was sketch as hell? Winter is so fucking dumb! Like what? Not even until the end of KS had she ever acknowledged her own stupidity and fault in the trajectory of her own story. And I was again baffled when Damon was confused with Winter's arc, because when was she described as having depth? Even by him? Just pure and beautiful, untouched by anything ugly, the one who told him to use pain one at a time. Her character only exist to be a muse for Damon 🤣😭 and clearly winter never gaf enough about fucking her own sister's husband but why was she going around acting holier than thou all the time, and even in private, slut shaming girls left and right for fucking anyone? And not her shaming arion for her adventurous sex but continue to fuck damon and will at the ssame time? Winter's such a fucking dumb hypocrite.

and She sounds just like damon, only a very less ugly version of him! Like not damon slut shaming everyone and looking down on arion, when he was just as bad, if not worse than the girls he looked down on, but nobody called him a whore ass low life? Sometimes i wished in nightfall that emmy called him a slut and a motherfucker to see how he reacts because for all the hurtful things and pain he caused and said to his friends (especially the horsemen) and innocent people in this series, him betraying michael and working with his brother for no fucking reason than his stupid jealousy, i believe Damon's happy ending is not well-earned enough for me. I literally want someone to drown him in the sea like what he did to kai, will and rika, cause him all this turmoil and backstabbing like what he did to banks and michael, and torture and shame him in a chamber like what he did to rika and winter. When winter was angry at damon and spouting shit at him in KS, I was cheering for her, wishing she said more, because if that was me, i wouldve done and said worse.

Because TO ME, Damon really didn't deserve anything good in his life, not his sisters, not his wife, his bffs, his future. Shoudl've just died in a ditch somehwere. One thing that Damon and I are similar in that we both knew this was true. It's hard now for anyone to convince me that he does deserve them. Oh and also that scene in conclave with him and misha? What the fuck, misha didn't even do anything to him. Fuck Damon honestly. Suddenly be obsessed with rika? And for what? Ugh cringe as fuck! I can't believe winter wasn't suspicious of him having borderline polyamorous relationship with everyone, especially rika and will. (But winter has to only be close to him? 🙄) The high pain and disrespect from him to everyone, and him keep acting dumb and going around saying shit like "if theres anybody who knew how low life and hell life could be it was us" in KS, was not worth anything that he can offer them. But then i'm not them, and they're not me, clearly michael see enough value in him to want him on his team. Even emmy would pick him before the readers, so that's why i still don't see any reason to go so hard defending emmy. No characters in this series were ever painted as a righteous character, i don't trust any of them irl.

No matter how angry DamonWinter fans can be angry at me for this, this is just one point they can't deny. Winter is the most useless character in the series. Like how is her kid gone in fire night but we see more of other chars being distressed than herself? I can't with PD sometimes 😂 like at least they could try to not make it THAT obvious that they didn't care much about Winter's character. And just like how Damon only attracts what he is, it's also similar to how authors only know to write what they know, hence why not all "smart characters" are "smart", because some authors are just not smart enough to think of a plan for characters to show how their characters are capable of being smart without them shoving this shit in your face in their text explicitly all the time. Like how PD wanted to make Damon, Rika and Alex's characters capable of everything, but failed because when you lay them down with logic and timelines, they don't match up ☠️ like? Well, at least rika herself was aware of her flaws. But not PD, ofc. Like WTF? And just when we're about to see the real Alex, where her character has flaws too and not just strengths, PD glosses over them again when it's inconvenient for them to explain. PD really sucks at writing details and timelines, no matter how much they said they're a big planner. A big planner doesnt make a good planner.

idk how my initial MBTI discussion has become a Damon hate rant post but ugh i finally let out my unsatisfaction of how his character was written into the world. I too, love to read about villains, i too want to love an anti-hero, i too want to read soft characters like winter, but not when they're shallow as fuck, and until the end of fire night they did not change at all. Or even when they change, it's minimal. One thing that i agree with some of readswshelby's (from tiktok and youtube) take about about willemmy's story (unlike the rest of the couples) is for what it's worth with their shitty plot, you can see that from the start of the series and the start of the book to the end of the series and the end of the book, their characterisation and story changes from a to b. What does that mean? It means they have progressed, they have changed, and they have put work on themselves to change for the better. We dont always got to see them because PD didnt gaf enough to write about Willemmy more, but we knew willemmy had progressed. Which also leades to a differnt kind lf discussion.

Emmy started nightfall believing she cannot have the things she wants most and will started night with plans because he felt loss and alone but both still have understandble fears in building back their relationship and connecting with each other and with others around them, because they were nit ready and were always seen to be holding on to the past, but then one step forward, they decided how their story is gonna be like, and they ended nightfall with some of the most impactful closing scenes and lines from this series as a couple and individual, that summed up their past doubts and worries

"my life finally starts" because finally will executed what he wants by being beside emmy, even to bring down the gate to get to where she was, killing martin with his own hands, and was always seen running towards emmy despite what damon, aydin and alex kept on doing to him and his woman, he was fully ready now. Even to be a father and get back to academia. He was even ready to be there for his friends and family as compared to how he was scene in that hideaway extra. Just because emmy was there, will was tured of his past, and they wanted and will work forward together for their future. (Only damonwinter came close to this, but not the two other couples)

"i have everything i want, education, brothers, family, husband that i love, would love and fight for me", because emmy finally fought for the one thing she wanted the most, will, and she also had all the other things she wanted and need and are proud of like education, career, family, loving brothers etc., and she was finally ready to go on adventure with them now, and nothing else matters anymore, and not only this was true in nightfall, her character was also seen reassuring will's doubt in fire night about their life and their world, and her being part of the crew that handles the police report, then btpeating up ilya etc., solidifies not only willemmy's relationship in this series, but also her place in their family. We truly know now that even if we dont get bonuses of them, WillEmmy is thriving and nobody can touch that. Interesting how back then how at point a she was the one who kept on running around, and now, heakthier, at point b, she was the cornerstone that her husband, nephews, nieces, family and friends can rely only. This was what growth was supposed to look like in romance, which leads to the next point.

"we're free, nobody can stop us", and this is the truest thing ever because in the early stage of her fighting for Will, emmy finally initiated/ responds to the fight with anyone that tries to come in between her and will, be it her brother, aydin, alex, dmaon, michael and kai. Even her thought in the bridal room towards will's girl family members sounds provokinb of some sort, like how she was surprised they didnt say anything, which even if they did, she would definitely put them down for it. And then we see her in all the scenes after until FN, where her thoughts, beliefs and words match up with actions because not a single time she wasn't there for what she promised. Again, begins with point A and ends with point B. Her caharcter, and will had the most progress because they put in the work. (there were many more, but i dont feel like including them, but if you have anything to add KO, please do)

and this is why i think willemmy felt like the most balanced and full fleshed out characters. Because they have a worry of their own, and they have worres togetehr, but from point A where they couldn't sove it in the beginning, progress was done actively/passively then we got to point B the ending. idk if DN readers realised this, but this maybe why PD got so much criticisms for their MichaelRikaBanksKai content, because not only they fucked up with KaiBanks, they promise us now that they have no HEA for these two couples. And HEA is what the romance genre is mainly known for, especially by seasoned readers and writers. Writers, editors, readers, and even the industry knew that this is one of the biggest promise that consumers will get when they consume the romance genre. That's why readers got angry when couples dont have chemistry, or no promisin HEA. They felt cheated. Many famous authors have discussed this, and and many romance readers agreed to this rule, hence why the romance subreddit too, have a rule of "have to be HEA, if not, it's not romance" or redit users can put on a disclaimer on their book posts if they want to suggest non-HEA books.

You can look up to what make the romance genre a genre online, and also see all the many romance subreddit post about what makes romance a Romance to them. And this is what PD failed to deliver. But then i only found out later that PD actually labelled Corrupt as Dark Erotica (not Dark Romance) and PD had been known to not like to be boxed in strict labels, so maybe this was where one of the readers' misunderstanding, unsatisfaction and confusion of not getting enough romance in this series could come from? Idk, once i change my mindset of DN to dark erotica, i didn't feel like i was lied to as much, because erotica is very different from romance, and i dont have the same expectation of a romance book to an erotica. Erotica will have sex that progresses the story as compared to romance where the romantic tension was what build of the relationship. Maybe that's why DN felt out of place because it wasn't marketed right?

But i feel like THAT's also why labelling is so important in marketing and advertising especially for the romance genre, because the romance genre is so big, and it could literally change readers' opinions and understanding of the books they're reading, but PD is PD and their confusing vagueness was what started all of this 🙄 idk, but i feel like they're a messy person as in, they like to cause mess bu don't know how to clean that up, but then putting something in a box later felt too real and felt like they have to confront with what's expected from the box and the consequences of it, so the easiest way is for them to cop out and abandon that all, and just write what they want and leave the rest to everyone but PD themselves. Idk, but i think i associate PD's personality as being irresponsible and messy now, because clearly they cared enough about what readers thought of their works to the point the took a break from DN, but not enough to change i guess? No matter how i see it, i just cannot look past how they handle this. Like at all. And it's something to keep in mind when i come across other authors and how they respond to readers and their crafts.

wow, this was a long ass post KO. Hopefully you dont find them burdensome 😅 thanking you for taking your time to reading this and responding

This might the last one from me about damon and kai though

Heyy! Don't worry about it. I don’t think I have much new to say anyway.

Regarding your feelings on Damon, though, that’s totally understandable. Like everything in Corrupt, there was such good potential in him, but I think the more we shed light on him and the less mystery, the less interesting he becomes. That’s true about a lot of things though. Unfortunantely, I think it would even be true of Micah and Rory. You know PD would never just let them be a cute domestic couple forever if they were to expand on their story. The more you get to know about them, the less interesting they might become. Or worse, you might even come to be unsatisfied with them to the point where you hate it. Best to leave things be.

Some of the things you said got me thinking, and I’ve never mentioned this before because I kind of thought everyone thought the same way – like it was written in the subtext of the series, but maybe it wasn’t the same for everyone.

All of the characters are supposed to be soulmates, right? Platonic and otherwise.

Like, the way the story is written, they hear a unique call that nobody else hears and that’s why they are drawn together. They’re unable to resist the call, and the more they try to deny it, the more restless they become. When they finally admit that these are their people and this is who they’re supposed to be, they feel a sense of contentment and belonging. For Damon, it’s the basis of his obsession. These are his people, and they have to feel it, too. There’s no way they can’t feel it. It doesn’t matter what Winter is or isn’t; she’s meant to be his and for no rhyme or reasons, he’s not going to let her go. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t get along with Kai most days. They’re drawn together because of this intangible thing and nothing can touch it or kill it. It's the same for all of them. Unlike Misha, who didn’t hear the call, and whom Damon eventually tolerates for Rika and Will’s sake. I just wish that it was touched on more from other character’s perspectives. I mean, I could be making this all up, but that was the impression I got.

For me, I think PD struggles the most with when to be over the top and when to bring it back down. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy they have fun with their ideas and fully lean into them, but it’s a skill to know when to pull back. Like the example you mentioned, Damon’s comment about ruling the world. Because, like, why? What would he want to rule the world for? And how are they going to convince themselves they’re not criminals when they’re trying to “rule” the world? Whereas, it would have had a more significant impact if he said something like, “we’re going to run this city, Rika.” Even though the Thunder Bay is much smaller than the world, it really shows how they’re going to carve out a corner for themselves, take control, and be a real threat to anything that tries to cross into their territory. And while I know Damon was probably speaking figuratively, it’s just such a weird way to say it.

I don’t expect a realistic plot from content like this. I expect over the top nonsense from start to finish. But there’s a balance to it. And when things are imbalanced, we get a laughable, cliché mess of a story. Which is why even some dark romance (or erotica, if that’s what it’s better termed as in this case) are still better written than DN, even though the intent behind them was the same. Character arcs, too, seem to be a mixture of darts thrown at a spinning table and “ohh won’t this be fun?” Which can be fine for a first draft but really should be refined before release. The narrow window between KS and NF, and possibly listening too much to fans and not enough to their own creative instincts, are two things I think really impacted how poorly some of these things came across.

I doubt I’ll ever understand the extent DamonWinter love, or even the Winter love. And I also wish there were Rika and Winter blogs, because I’d love some good analysis and insight on them. I’m so open to other people’s opinions, even if I don’t agree, and I know that there are others in this fandom that are, too. I also know how hard it can be to take things that you think and feel, and put them into sentences that make sense! But I’d love some explanation on Winter from a fan that’s as completely obsessed as I am with Emory. It doesn’t have to be good, it doesn’t have to be well written, it doesn’t even have to be in line with what I think; I’m open to changing. But just something thoughtful.

And just when we're about to see the real Alex, where her character has flaws too and not just strengths, PD glosses over them again when it's inconvenient for them to explain.

Yes! I was telling a friend that hasn’t read DN that part of the problem with Alex is that the other characters are never allowed to be mad at her. Friends sometimes cause problems, they offend, things go off track. Alex is a controversial character, not because she’s an escort, but because she doesn’t care about opinions. But not caring about opinions and always doing exactly what you want often times causes problems, especially with people you’re close to. PD is really trying to tell us that for five years, Alex has never done anything that didn’t sit right with any one of these incredibly different characters? Michael and Kai fight over how to handle Rika every two seconds, but nobody cares that Alex is trying to distract the security guards from their duties, because she’s just so cute? Alex roofies Michael and potentially jeopardizes the entire rescue mission, but as long as she’s safe it’s all okay? She leaves Emory open and exposed to violent predators and a man who by all visible signs hates her, but Emory can’t be mad because it’s Alex.

All of these things would be interesting and great characterization, a good way to look into the dynamics of the group, if the other characters were allowed to deal with it, but I can’t think of a single time a character has chastised her other than Banks on one or two occasions. They can be mad at her and still be her friend; it’s not one or the other. It would even be interesting to see how Alex uses her ability to manipulate on a character like Michael or Kai when she’s done something that upsets them – but they’re never that upset with her. It’s weird and annoying.

As for your Willemmy analysis, I see everything you’re getting at. I think willemmy’s characters and storyline make more sense than Damonwinter and is packs a more emotional punch that Michaelrika. And Will annoys me less than Kai (sorry KaiBanks fans).

idk if DN readers realised this, but this maybe why PD got so much criticisms for their MichaelRikaBanksKai content, because not only they fucked up with KaiBanks, they promise us now that they have no HEA for these two couples.

I think most readers probably know what their issue is. I wonder if PD realizes that’s why there was an uproar. See, if a fan wrote something like that, other fans who are into those scenarios probably would have gobbled it up. But having it come from the creator, making it canon, ruins the impression that other fans who don’t want that have. Even if PD had just said “Yeah, sometimes I think about the four of them together.” That would be different than an entire scene where it becomes “official”. As a fan, they have the right to think of DN however they want, but as the creator, their words carry power and authority. I remember when that scene came out, they were thinking that people didn’t like Rika and Banks, but that honestly wasn’t the issue. I’m not a Rika fan, but I would have read a boring scene just to see what’s going on with her.

PD had been known to not like to be boxed in strict labels, so maybe this was where one of the readers' misunderstanding, unsatisfaction and confusion of not getting enough romance in this series could come from?

Yeah, I would say DN fits a little better when I don’t think of it as a romance, but as a story with a romantic storyline

but PD is PD and their confusing vagueness was what started all of this

The way you’re saying this makes PD sound like one of those ao3 writers that’s like “no tags, just read” like the tags aren’t there to be spoilers; they’re there for a reason. But I don’t know if PD was intentionally being vague because they didn’t want to give anything away or just thought the “dark romance” would be enough to cover the content. Maybe like you said, there was a misunderstanding on what makes it a romance, and of course, they wanted to be seen, and it has a romance storyline, so it’s not lying to put it in romance…

The confusion is unfortunate, but I wouldn’t rake anyone over the coals for it.

Hopefully you dont find them burdensome

I don’t find them burdensome at all! It just sometimes takes me a while to get to them. I mostly always respond on a desktop, because reading the longer ones on mobile is hard. That’s why it takes me so long to respond. Thanks for your patience though! And for sending in your thoughts. I enjoy the discussions.

#asked and answered #devil's night series #series discussion #asked and answered 294 #no alex tag #damon torrance

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lesbianologist · 3 years ago

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i was not prepared to hear alice cry about dana

#personal #how fucking DARE you dredge up that pain #HOW DARE YOU DIG AT AN OPEN WOUND #FUCK YOU L WORD PRODUCERS #this episode was truly awful #bette cheating on gigi by flirting with pippa #dani sleeping with sophie again even tho she shouldn’t #sophie ditching finley to sleep with dani 🙄#SHE REALLY CAN’T STOP HERSELF #and thEN FINLEY RELAPSING #AND MICAH BEING A TRUE SHIT DISTURBER???#I REALLY CAN’T DO THIS SHIT RN MAN #the l word generation q #the l word #the l word gen q #tlw:gq #tlwgq #tlwgq spoilers #popular

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bettefuckinporter · 3 years ago

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i got this idea from pinterest when i suddenly came across alice's old chart ! idk if anyone's done this already but yeah , <33

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low-budget-korra · 3 years ago

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Comments on the L Word Gen Q s02e09

-I understand that the OG intro is tied to the OG show and wouldn't fit the GenQ because of that but i missed the girls in tight dresses, who drag with mustaches...

-Dont let you guys hate for Bette blind you about how she ain't wrong about the Nunez stuff. It ain't Dani fault too, is her father's.

-So the donor, Marcus, didn't wanted to meet Angie. Damn

-The series makes me want to live in LA

-Dani you're not a newby in the business. You know how shit works. Bette is protecting her business and ideas just as much as you are trying to clean up your father's bullshit

-I will never have kids, look how Angie is treating Tina and Bette because her donor doesn't wanted to meet her. I will never have the patience for that shit, i would give a "okay, fuck you then" and a smile

Look at that, i bet she thinks that was Bette's fault.

-Listen Sophie, after that "conversation" you would be the last person o want to talk to. And i think i would also runaway from you.

-And Look, Dani really is alone cuz her "friend" Micah is nowhere to be seen to help her. Thank God she have Gigi

-Alice having to come out again. That shit is real and sucks. She is aware that she can lost audience by the fact she is dating a man and that's sucks.

I get that a lot of gays wants to keep distance from straight males doesn't matter what but it sucks that Alice may lost audience cuz because she is dating a man

-I bet Sophie will fight Finley as soon as she finds her

-Yes Angie's she is being serious. No, you are being the asshole Angie. It's understandable that you're sad and wherever but that ain't your fault, it ain't Bette or Tina's fault, it ain't your friend's fault. And pushing away the people who actually care about you will not help you at all.

-Yes, Finley does have a problem. Her problem is Sophie.

I can't believe I got the Spanish scene, I've been struggling with that language since ever. Now i can say I speak Portuguese, English and listen to Spanish

-Dani if you need a time alone, you don't have to lie about it. I understand you lied because im your previous relationship you couldn't have that

-Shane and Alice leaving so Tibette can fight lmao. And again, Bette don't have the obligation to be Carrie best friend or something like that. Just being able to be nice with each other is

Bette is not crying only because she make it in her job, i can tell you guys that.

-Are you jealous Tina? ARE YOU JEALOUS TINA?

Yes apologize, thank you Angie.

"i think we should go back" i bet Tina's heart skipped a beat

-Fuck Marcus.

-No serious. It doesn't matter if Bette still have feelings for Tina or not, she ain't obligated to be Carrie's best friend. That's not fair. And if you the I being just a Bette's supporter but just imagine if people were pushing you to be all friends with a person that you just don't vibe with it and doesn't wanted

-Gigi is the best. Where I can find one? Oh the parallel with Bette and Pippa.

"nobody holds me when I'm sad" stuff. With Bette is like that too

-Since I'm a responsible bitch, i would at least give a "i don't wanna talk to you Sophie" message

Accept that she is not getting the pieces and making better. She is the reason Finley is drinking again n the first place. And she doesn't give a shit if Finley has lots of shit going on because with Sophie is all "me, me ,me"

-Angie and Jordi 💞

-Yes. Finley and Dani getting together against Sophie I'm so here for it. Oh no Dani, i mean you get it out please help Finley to get it out too

-Sorry Marcus, that actually sweet of you. Omg he died. At least, in a way, you got to meet Angie.

-Okay that broke my heart. If Sophie hurts Finley again i will punch her in the face.

-WHAT A GOOD EPISODE WTF

#the l word #the l word gen q #the l word generation q #bette porter #tina kennard #shane mccutcheon #tess #pippa pascal #Angie #sarah finley #dani nunez #sophie suarez #gigi ghorbani #micah #maribel

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storyhelpers · 2 years ago

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girl names m-p

here’s some of the girl’s names I’ve seen, used, or loved and most of them I haven’t seen on masterlists. some of them have alternative spellings from the “traditional” name as well. they’re organized alphabetically by letter so you can easily find the names with letters you enjoy.

Girl Names M-P

A-D; E-H; I-L; Q-T; U-Z

M Macy Maddie Madison Maggie Mahogany Maisie Mallory Margaret Margo Marie Matilda Max Maxine May Meghan/Megan Micah Minnie Molly Monica Moxie

N Nadene Nadia Naomi Narcissa Natalie Nicole Nicolette Nikki/Nicki Nina Nellie Norah Nova Novie

O Odelia Odette Oksana Olena Olive Olivia Olympia Ona Onyx Ophelia

P Paige Pamela Pandora Parker Patience Patricia Pauley Paulette Pauline Penny Persephone Petunia Peyton/Payton Phoebe Phoenix Pippa Prudence

#character ideas #character help #names #name inspiration #writing inspiration #self: names

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thundergrace · 3 years ago

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Things that didn't hurt in 2x09:

Aunt Alice and Uncle Shane getting Angie to prom

Angie and Jordi making up and being adorable

Gigi and Dani's everything, as usual

Bette and Pippa (my fucking lord, in every scene Bette has with Pippa, Bette is almost unrecognizable, in the best possible way)😍😍😍

Suarez family drama, because it's always hilarious and familiar and feeds my soul

Micah and Maribel, those cuties

#tlwgq #the l word generation q #tlwgq spoilers

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sophielovesbooks · 3 years ago

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Mid Year Book Freakout Tag!

I’m a bit late to this party… but I wrote this a few days ago when I wasn’t feeling 100% after getting my second Covid vaccine and took the entire day off. So I finally had the time to write this :)

Let me pull up my Goodreads real quick and have a look at the 33 books I have so far this year.

1. The Best Book of the Year So Far

Hmm, let’s see. I feel like it’s fair to give two answers to this one, because on the one hand, there is the book that qualifies as “the best” from a literary perspective (at least in my opinion) and that would be CONVERSATIONS WITH FRIENDS by Sally Rooney. Definitely had its own style and felt… infused with a deeper meaning, at least to me. It was also very compelling. Personally, I couldn’t stop reading it. And I feel like it had a lot to say about modern-day relationships (romantic, platonic… all kinds really).

Then, there is the book that I personally enjoyed this most, and that was probably THE GIRLS ARE ALL SO NICE HERE by Laurie Elisabeth Flynn. It kind of felt like your standard thriller, but also not. While it was super suspenseful and fun to read, I also genuinely cared about the characters and loved the portrayal of toxic teen girls’ friendships and generally teenage cruelty in the context of wanting to be cool/to fit in. It made me reflect on a lot of things, so to me, it’s definitely more than a thriller that you forget right after reading it. And it also definitely qualifies as dark academia, and discovering a new DA book I love is always great! <3

2. Best Sequel of the Year So Far

Wow, I am NOT big on sequels. I have only read one this year, which is just further proof that I’m not very into book series and much prefer standalones. The only sequel I have read this year was also a very good one, though: MISTER IMPOSSIBLE by Maggie Stiefvater. Much anticipated by me and thankfully, I had a great time with it. :)

3. A New Release You Haven’t Read Yet But Want To

I’m going to go with MALIBU RISING by Taylor Jenkins Read! I was gifted this book by my boyfriend’s grandma for my birthday on June 29 (so sweet!) and I think I will read it next. I am very excited for this one!

4. Most Anticipated Release for Autumn/Winter

Two books I am VERY excited for are A LESSON IN VENGEANCE by Victoria Lee and IN MY DREAMS I HOLD A KNIFE by Ashley Winstead. I’m not even really sure why. I don’t know that much about either of them yet. But they just call to me, just like The Girls Are All So Nice Here did. And that one didn’t disappoint, so hopefully these two won’t either.

5. Your Biggest Disappointment of the Year So Far

Maybe THE GUEST LIST by Lucy Foley? I mean, it wasn’t awful. But I remember that I wasn’t impressed and had been expecting more somehow. Objectively the worst book I read this year would have to be THE SHARP EDGE OF A SNOWFLAKE by Sif Sigmarsdóttir, lol. But that one doesn’t count as the biggest disappointment, because I didn’t go in expecting that much. It was just an ebook that I bought for a low price at one point.

6. Your Biggest Surprise of the Year So Far

Definitely THE GIRLS I’VE BEEN by Tess Sharpe. I did not expect a YA thriller to be as intense and emotional and fun and just plain well-written as it was! Biggest positive surprise of the year so far, I think. :) I felt similarly surprised by A GOOD GIRL’S GUIDE TO MURDER by Holly Jackson. Another YA thriller (or mystery, I guess?) that was so much better than I had expected!

7. New Favourite Author

I’m going to have to say THE MOTHER by Tess Stimson. I was expecting it to be a semi-fun thriller without much depth to it, just easy entertainment, I suppose. I was extremely surprised by the emotional depth I encountered. The death at the heart of this story is that of an infant, but I was expecting the book to sort of gloss over how tragic that actually is. Instead, it leaned into the grief so much, I found myself absolutely shook? The book almost moved me to tears several times. The mystery was so intense, I kept guessing and guessing. At one point quite early on, I had the solution, but the author masterfully misdirected me from that again, so that the twist at the end came as the biggest shock! Yeah, I loved this so much more than I had ever expected! Well done, Tess Stimson!

8. Your Newest Favourite Character

I haven’t absolutely fallen in love with any new characters this year, but three that stand out to me (in the order I encountered them this year) are:

1) Pippa Fitz-Amobi from A GOOD GIRL’S GUIDE TO MURDER by Holly Jackson

2) Katrina Hawkins from THE STARLESS SEA by Erin Morgenstern

3) Nora O’Malley from THE GIRLS I’VE BEEN by Tess Sharpe

9. Your Newest Fictional Crush

Umm… absolutely nothing comes to mind lmfao. Fictional crushes have become so rare for me!

10. A Book that Has Made You Cry

THE MOTHER almost made me cry, I think. Not sure if there were actual tears. CONVERSATIONS WITH FRIENDS and NORMAL PEOPLE both (almost) moved me to tears several times. But I didn’t have any break-downs over books this year. At least not yet.

EDIT: Omg, omg, omg, I forgot A LITTLE LIFE! How the f did I forget about A LITTLE LIFE?! I broke down over this book several times. It was awful. Never before has a book made me suffer so much. I mean that. I didn’t just cry, the book also made me feel physically ill several times. Very well written, yes, but not one I can recommend in good conscience. This is not one of those instances of “You’ll cry, but you’ll love crying”, at least not for me. This is something I perhaps should have not put myself through. Because the experience overall was painful, first and foremost. Stay safe, kids. This one is… a lot.

11. A Book That Has Made You Happy

This is so sad to say, but none of the books I read this year gave me that warm, glowy feeling of pure comfort and happiness you get from books sometimes? Some passages of THE STARLESS SEA came the closest, I would say.

12. The Most Beautiful Book of the Year So Far

Again, I need to mention THE STARLESS SEA with the beautiful prose and imagery! <3 Also A LITTLE LIFE maybe? Beautifully written at times. Absolutely heart- and gut-wrenching at others.

13. Some Books You Need to Read Before 2021 Ends

Hahaha… so many. But I’ll pick out a few that I will likely finish until the year is over: MALIBU RISING, AN OCEAN OF MINUTES by Thea Lim (birthday present by a close friend! <3), THESE VIOLENT DELIGHTS by Micah Nemerever (birthday present my dad gave me! <3) and THEY NEVER LEARN by Layne Fargo (bday present my godmother gave me! <3). You see, I am much more committed to reading books that were given to me rather than books I bought myself. So these have good chances of being finished in 2021. :)

14. Tag Two of Your Favourite Community Members

@books-and-cookies Have you answered these questions yet? And @augustinianseptember? Would REALLY love to read both of your answers! <3<3

#mid year freak out #mid year book freak out tag #reading #books #booklr #conversations with friends #the girls are all so nice here #mister impossible #malibu rising #the mother #a good girl's guide to murder #the starless sea #the girls i've been #a little life #and many others...

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golnarghorbani · 3 years ago

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my thoughts on 2x06

i can't believe i just heard Dani talk about her "psuedosexual friendship with Gigi" and how she thinks about her and wants to be near her just 2 MINUTES INTO THE EPISODE

Bette saying "she's everything" about Pippa is so bizzare to me. giving me fangirl/stalker vibes

I will not stand for the Gigi slander from Bette and Alice 😤 literally what has she actually done wrong for Bette to resent their relationship so much

ngl Sophie had me laughing taking that fake phone call to let Maribel and Micah talk

karaoke in shows/movies physically pain me and this is no different

this isn't Glee

a Dani and Bette crumb!!! "I've missed you" I miss them together too, but only platonically

also very curious to know what Dani is working on for them

why won't Shane just tell Tess she likes her

please, the way Bette and Gigi are breaking up as if they are already broken up

Bette saying she needs more and that she already knows there's someone out there who checks all of her boxes is so cold for no reason

this night is so chaotic with everybody having feelings and revealing their feelings for everybody, I love it

Sophie serenading Finley would be cute if I thought either of them deserved happiness. and the fact Sophie did all of that right in front of Dani... I'm so pissed off because they just do not respect her at all

not me screaming at Alice to kiss Tom

Gigi and Dani getting ice cream!!

"THEY'VE CHANGED" !!!! Gigi's feelings for Dani have changed!!

...like we didn't already know

#the l word #the l word generation q #tlwgq #gigi ghorbani #dani nunez #my thoughts

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sheismysanity · 3 years ago

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Last night I was so emotionally drained after reading the seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo in one day that I decided to stay up and watch 2x04 to cheer me up and here are my thoughts.

-They are putting Dani through so much this season let her be happy for a whole episode please. I saw the pictures for 2x06 and she looks like she is having a good time so I hope it last.

-I felt like Micah should have reach to Dani first, but of course having Sophie to look for Dani was the perfect excuse to them hooking up, what I think it was unnecesary. I feel like if Dani and Sophie still want to be with each other they need to sit down a have a open conversation without sex in the middle if that doesn't hapen to be honest I want them to be just friends.

-I love how much Bette loves art, I want to be passionate about things like that. I'm not gonna lie Pippa is a gorgeous woman.

-When Shane mentioned that she left Carmen at the altar I had so many flashbacks.

-Alice talking about Dana broke my heart, I was already emotional but damn I cried. Grieve is the worst feeling in the world, it never goes away, you can be having the best day ever and it hits you this person you loved its not there and they are not coming back so yes I cried because I felt connected to Alice in that moment. I wanted to go througth the screen and give her a hug.

-I feel so bad for Finley not because Sophie went to see if Dani was okay, Finley should know that Sophie still cares about Dani but I felt so bad when she was all excited about the dinner while Sophie was fucking Dani so yes I feel bad for her, I don't know if I should but I do.

-Tess and Shane are cute I hope they get together.

-I loved how Bette listened to Angie with calm and supported her. I think it was a beautuful scene.

-I can wait to see Maribel and Micah having cute dates and also having a healthy relationship so the people around them can see how a good relatioship looks.

-That sex scene between Bette and Gigi caught me out of guard but I'm not complaining.

So I think this episode was better than 2x03 and I'm looking forward to see the rest of the season.

#the l word #the l world generation q #dani nunez #sophie suarez #gigi ghorbani #bette porter

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bettefuckinporter · 3 years ago

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thoughts while watching tlwgq s2ep3

1. " omg gigi and that bette ass smack yes "

2. " nice , dani meets gigi through bette as expected "

3. " okay , it's going good they're at the art gallery "

4. " is bette ok ? why's she crying from pippa's work "

5. " damn bette was really mad at angie i hope they're fine "

6. " was shouting at gigi really necessary ? now you just chased her away when all she was tryna do is help "

7. " micah and maribel are cute riding the horses "

8. " wow dani really took the whole ass sofa and table but you know what , sophie kinda deserved that "

9. " i feel bad for alice seeing nat and marissa or whoever that fucker is "

10. " OMG ANGIE MEETING HER HALF SISTER YSDEYSAHSEHE "

11. " gigi chasing a man away from dani is so wholesome and cute "

12. " maybe it's not such a good idea for gigi to drink while driving... "

13. " is dani's dad okay ???????? "

14. " i think alice and the editor will sleep together "

15. " gigi and dani could possibly be the new besties / gfs idk "

16. " when the fuck is tina coming back to get bette already "

17. " wtf was this episode it was shit "

#daena's random thoughts #the l word #the l word generation q #bette porter #tina kennard #alice pieszecki #shane mccutcheon #micah lee #maribel suarez #sophie suarez #gigi ghorbani #angelica porter kennard #lgbtq

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low-budget-korra · 3 years ago

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Comments on The L Word generation Q s02e08

-Already that Gini sex scene in the beginning of the episode? Talk about a good start for a episode

-I understand both Dani and Bette. And i bet the people who didn't watch the OG show will blame all on Bette, treating her as the villain because that's what they always do when Bette is just ... You know...being Bette.

And what pisses me off about this hate that her character is receiving is that they don't even stop a minute to try to understand how stressed she is with both Angie and the donor situation, and her job. Shit ain't easy for Bette these days but since her copying mechanism is different from other characters like Dani, it's like her pain ain't valid

-Pippa wait a goddamn minute damn. You understand this world just as much as Bette. Don't act like it's all Bette's fault when you know it ain't

-YESSS. Bette Porter and her "Fuck". I love hear that woman cursing

-Look at Sophie's face when Finley is talking. Okay hear me out. The only person Sophie really loves is herself.

She doesn't love Dani or Finley, however, she loves what they can give to her. Dani can give a more mature and stable life when Finley can give the full time attention.

The newbies are shitting on Bette Porter when the new Jenny is right here

-Oh look at that. Dani acting like Bette when stressed out and i bet no one will say a thing about it. Also Gigi i love you, you are perfect but you're being too needy

Yes you ain't totally wrong about it but that ain't the right time to talk about it.

-Shut the fuck up Dani's father. I love how Dani is decisive and just stand her ground

-Micah has game y'all

-Tom you shouldn't have shaved. And i didn't like this arc because people can used this Alice - Tom - Nat stuff to justify the whole "bissexual are sluts and will cheat on you" shit. Which is *surprised surprised* is bullshit. And disrespectful

-Okay Tom, you're being to nice with Alice. Stop creating unrealistic expectations on men tho. The bissexuals and straight can agree with that right? lmao

No shade, is just for all i hear about men from straight and bi friends...well, they def aren't nice as Tom. Only like 5 in 50 aren't trash

-Omg don't talk about Dana. I can't. Omg it's given me PTSD from that scene. Please people that care of yourself, i know heath care is expensive and it's not free in every country but please if you can, take care. Don't be the Dana to your Alice. As soon as you discover a decease, the more are your chances to get better.

God I'm crying

-Omg the show made me go from emotional crying to I'm pissed. Ah, and for the record, you know who make Finley start drink again? YOU SOPHIE. YOU DID. And instead of talking with her about it what you did? You just push her away, which make her go find the attention and caring on the alcohol because you, Sophie, is unable to give that to someone you claim you love

I still didn't get Jenny's hate (maybe cuz in my re-watch u didn't reach the part she goes ape shit) but i Sophie is terrible and i don't feel bad for hate her because she fucking deserve the hate, I'm sorry.

-The different between Dani and Bette is this. Dani is more open to have a heart to heart conversation and apologies. Bette is way more of passive aggressive or just straight up runaway from it.

-Damn Micah.

- Tess and Shane FINALLY AAAA.

What a beautiful scene

-Sophie and Finley is a TOXIC RELATIONSHIP.

Sophie push Finley to the alcohol right when she had a date with her but prefer spend the night with Dani, a few episodes back. Sophie blames Finley for shit that ain't her fault and keeps treating her like trash, demolishing her and make Finley feel like shit

"But Finley is a messy person" We know but she is a adult, she is capable.

What the actual fuck is that you are talking about Sophie? Drunken Finley ain't this monster, she actually is really chill when drunk.

Sophie is like "i love you" "you aren't enough" "look what you did" "hey i sorry" "you are awful"... She treats you like shit, and then she apologize (the "honeymoon phase when she is nice to you so you don't leave her from real) and after a while she treat you like shit again and the cycles continue

Now about the promo:

-I know Finley has lots of internalized trauma since season 1 and all she needs is someone who actually cares about her and not only care about what she can give to them

No, i don't buy this Sophie going after Finley because she did this before and guess what, she throw shit on Finley again

-They are low-key planing for Tibette come back right?

#the l word #the l word gen q #the l word generation q #bette porter #alice pieszecki #dani nunez #sophie suarez #shane mccutcheon #gigi ghorbani #pippa pascal #dana fairbanks #comments on #tess

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[TASK 201: SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS]

In celebration of June being Caribbean American Heritage Month, there’s a masterlist below compiled of over 80+ Kittitian and/or Nevisian faceclaims categorised by gender with their occupation and ethnicity denoted if there was a reliable source. If you want an extra challenge use random.org to pick a random number! Of course everything listed below are just suggestions and you can pick whichever faceclaim or whichever project you desire.

Any questions can be sent here and all tutorials have been linked below the cut for ease of access! REMEMBER to tag your resources with #TASKSWEEKLY and we will reblog them onto the main! This task can be tagged with whatever you want but if you want us to see it please be sure that our tag is the first five tags, @ mention us or send us a messaging linking us to your post!

THE TASK - scroll down for FC’s!

STEP 1: Decide on a FC you wish to create resources for! You can always do more than one but who are you starting with? There are links to masterlists you can use in order to find them and if you want help, just send us a message and we can pick one for you at random!

STEP 2: Pick what you want to create! You can obviously do more than one thing, but what do you want to start off with? Screencaps, RP icons, GIF packs, masterlists, PNG’s, fancasts, alternative FC’s - LITERALLY anything you desire!

STEP 3: Look back on tasks that we have created previously for tutorials on the thing you are creating unless you have whatever it is you are doing mastered - then of course feel free to just get on and do it. :)

STEP 4: Upload and tag with #TASKSWEEKLY! If you didn’t use your own screencaps/images make sure to credit where you got them from as we will not reblog packs which do not credit caps or original gifs from the original maker.

THINGS YOU CAN MAKE FOR THIS TASK - examples are linked!

Stumped for ideas? Maybe make a masterlist or graphic of your favourite faceclaims. A masterlist of names. Plot ideas or screencaps from a music video preformed by an artist. Masterlist of quotes and lyrics that can be used for starters, thread titles or tags. Guides on culture and customs.

Screencaps

RP icons [of all sizes]

Gif Pack [maybe gif icons if you wish]

PNG packs

Manips

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Character Aesthetics

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Graphic Templates - can be chara header, promo, border or background PSD’s!

FC Masterlists - underused, with resources, without resources!

FC Help - could be related, family templates, alternatives.

Written Guides.

and whatever else you can think of / make!

MASTERLIST!

Cicely Tyson (1924) Afro-Nevisian - actress and model.

Susan L. Taylor (1946) Afro-Trinidianian / Afro-Kittitian - editor and writer.

Joan Armatrading (1950) Afro-Kittitian - singer and guitarist.

Ellen Cleghorne (1965) African-American, Afro-Kittitian - actress and comedian.

Michelle Gayle (1971) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - singer, actress and author.

Alison Hammond (1975) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - presenter.

Angela Griffin (1975) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian / English - actress and presenter.

Corinne Bailey Rae (1979) Afro-Kittitian / English - singer.

Rhea Bailey (1983) Afro-Kittitian / English - actress.

Melanie Liburd (1987) Afro-Kittitian / English - actress.

Laura Mvula (1987) Afro-Kittitian / Afro-Jamaican - singer.

Keisha White (1988) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - singer.

Pippa Bennett-Warner (1988) Afro-Jamaican, Afro-Kittitian - actress.

Lady Leshurr (1989) Afro-Kittitian - rapper.

Damaris Lewis (1990) Afro-Kittitian - model.

Wendy St. Kitts (?) Afro-Kittitian - singer.

Ngozi Paul (?) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian / Dominica - actress, writer and director.

F - Athletes:

Nicola Adams (1982) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian, French, British - boxer.

Virgil Hodge (1983) Afro-Kittitan or Afro-Nevisian - sprinter.

Tiandra Ponteen (1984) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - sprinter.

Phoenetia Browne (1994) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Brittney Lawrence (1995) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Dakota Mills (1997) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Quinn Josiah (2000) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Carley Uddenberg (2000) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Leon Herbert (1955) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - actor, director, writer and producer.

Robbie Gee (1964) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - actor.

Michael Boatman (1964) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - actor.

Simon Webbe (1978) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - singer.

Devon Anderson (1987) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - actor.

Leeon Jones (1993) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - actor.

Burt Caesar (?) Afro-Kittitian - actor, broadcaster and director.

Tevin Wallace (?) Afro-Kittitian, Afro-Trinidadian - actor and model.

E-Carter / Eric Carter (?) Afro-Kittitian - rapper.

Santoy / Santoy Barrett (?) Afro-Kittitian - singer.

Louis Hanley (?) Afro-Kittitian - singer.

Tifferny Cyanne (?) Afro-Nevisian, Montserratian, Irish - model (Instagram: tiffernynco).

M - Athletes:

Ces Podd (1952) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Elquemedo Willett (1953) Afro-Nevisian - cricketer.

Bert Bowery (1954) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Derick Parry (1954) Afro-Nevisian - cricketer.

Victor Eddy (1955) Afro-Kittitian - cricketer.

Desai Williams (1959) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - sprinter.

Livingstone Bramble (1960) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - boxer.

Derek Redmond (1965) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - sprinter.

Keith Arthurton (1965) Afro-Nevisian - cricketer.

Gary Smith (1966) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Des Hazel (1967) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Dean Walling (1969) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Stuart Williams (1969) Afro-Kittitian - cricketer.

Carl Tuckett (1970) Afro-Nevisian - cricketer.

Bobby Bowry (1971) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Keith Gumbs (1972) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Lutel James (1972) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Sagi Burton (1977) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Brian Quailey (1978) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Adam Newton (1980) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Calum Willock (1981) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Erasmus James (1982) Afro-Kittitian - American footballer.

Tesfa Robinson (1985) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Atiba Harris (1985) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Jason St Juste (1985) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Matthew Berkeley (1987) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Patrece Liburd (1988) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Ryan Robbins (1988) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Micah Richards (1988) Afro-Kittitian / Unknown - footballer.

Antoine Adams (1988) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Febian Brandy (1989) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Brijesh Lawrence (1989) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - sprinter.

Zephaniah Thomas (1989) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Michael Nottingham (1989) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Aaron Moses-Garvey (1989) Afro-Kittitianor Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Kieran Powell (1990) Afro-Nevisian - cricketer.

Jordan Bowery (1991) Afro-Kittitianor Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Jason Rogers (1991) Afro-Kittitian - sprinter.

Romaine Sawyers (1991) Afro-Kittitian / Unknown - footballer.

Rowan Liburd (1992) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Omari Sterling-James (1993) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Raheem Hanley (1994) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Theo Wharton (1994) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Jacob Hazel (1994) Afro-Kittitian- footballer.

Harry Panayiotou (1994) Afro-Kittitian / Greek Cypriot - footballer.

Alain Sargeant (1995) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Jerry St. Juste (1996) Afro-Kittitian / Dutch - footballer.

Warren Hazel (1996) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - sprinter.

Jeremiah Louis (1996) Afro-Kittitian - cricketer.

Marcus Rashford (1997) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Raheem Somersall (1997) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Daniel Bowry (1998) Afro-Kittitian or Afro-Nevisian - footballer.

Romario Martin (1999) Afro-Kittitian - footballer.

Mikyle Louis (2000) Afro-Kittitian - cricketer.

Kareem Queeley (2001) Afro-Kittitian - basketball player.

Problematic:

Bertil Fox (1951) Afro-Kittitian - convicted murderer.

Neil deGrasse Tyson (1958) African-American, Puerto Rican, Afro-Nevisian - sexual assault allegations.

Mel B (1975) Afro-Kittitian or Nevisian / British - said in an interview that she slept with a co-star, named them but didn’t get their permission.

Akil Grier (1992) Afro-Kittitian or Nevisian - charged with rape.

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