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princess causes murder of two boys
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#pjoverse#the lost hero#the heroes of olympus#heroes of olympus#jason#leo#leo valdez#jason grace#piper mclean#piper pov#piper#page 301#page 302#hoo
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maybe if jason's or just everyone's pov in heroes of olympus was written in the first person's, they would've been liked way more? i swear I feel like if jason's pov was written that way, it would've been way more hilarious, and would've made his dry offhand remarks alot more funny? (like say, percy's 'i said hello to the poodle' it's sort of the dry kind of thing jason says in his chapters all the time, but they're not considered funny because it's told through third person limited) and even leo's humor would've been tripled. it was, in my opinion, a wasted opportunity truly.
#bc psychologically everyone was used to percy in the first person's that switching to a NEW character in a NEW pov setting is a huge change#and I sort of understand why ppl just couldn't get used to jason#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackson#pjo series#pjo hoo#pjo hoo toa#jason grace#annabeth chase#leo valdez#piper mclean#frank zhang#hazel levesque#hoo#heroes of olympus#rrverse#the seven pjo#percy jackson fandom#percy jackon and the olympians
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they are best friends and siblings and i love them both so dearly. featuring piercings bc i stand strong in my belief that they would
#leo valdez#piper mclean#rachiebee art#heroes of olympus#leo valdez fanart#piper mclean fanart#annabeth chase#jason grace#percy jackson#nico di angelo#will solace#they're all on the photowall btw i didnt just add those tags for fun#might reblog w/out the overlays later#anyway its upsetting to me in toa when reyna becomes leo's “big sister” and he only gets one on screen scene with piper#what do you MEAN he has a line abt a sister and its not piper#i'm of the devout belief that the only reason leo ended up actually considering people his family after everything was BECAUSE of piper#and jason too damn word limit#reyna and leo is cute i love them as ace buddies but i wish he got like#more time to reunite w piper. idk. and i know its from apollos pov but still#anyway thats a mini rant in the tags sorry ive been thinking about it more and more
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now that I'm somewhat free to draw, here's doodle/wip as a start to forcing myself into drawing more complex stuff :)
(watch me never touch this again)
I have no clue where they are, what light is, nor what Jason's legs are doing, but it looks nice so I'm mostly happy with it :)
#help how do I position people#pov: you didn't use references and now you regret it#piper mclean#Jason Grace#leo valdez#the lost trio#heroes of olympus#art wip#photo of my screen#bro is gonna wake up with the worst back pain known to man#my art
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the riordanverse is so fun because the two pov canon queer characters and their sexuality journeys are:
1. extremely traumatized child with self worth issues who grew up in the 30s and hates himself for being gay and had a crush on the guy who kind of ruined his life and is outed by cupid to one of his only friends
2. "I have just been kissed by a dude. How do I feel about that? ... I have just been kissed by Alex fierro. I am absolutely great with that."
#magnus chase#pjo#hoo#nico di angelo#solangelo#fierrochase#yeah yeah technically piper is a pov queer character but i havent read toa yet so#riordanverse
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Headcanon that Will Solace is actually pretty decent at archery and music (especially singing) but his self doubt is what gets in his way. I think he's better at singing and archery than most campers but he compares himself to his siblings, which makes him believe he isn't good at them. He's in the mindset that if he isn't good at something from the start then he's never going to be good at it. He was pretty talented at healing when he got to camp, so he felt more confident in it and got better at healing but never took the time to hone his archery or singing.
#will solace#will solace headcanon#pjo headcanon#pjo#percy jackon and the olympians#he was able to open the doors of orpheus by singing- nico didnt even try in both tlo and tsats#he was practicing archery right before jason piper and leo got to cbh in tlh#outside of tsats we arent given a Will pov but he seems to have a lot of self doubt in most the books where he has lines
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pov:
Someone was mean to you but your best friend is a pyromaniac with a lighter.
#purrrrplecats was here#grian#desert duo#goodtimeswithscar#leo valdez#piper mclean#hermitcraft#pjo fandom#pov#this is horrible ngl
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I wish we had gotten the POV of someone with more of a history with their godly parent during the Battle of the Acropolis. And by that I mean either Percy or Annabeth. If Nico or Thalia had been there I would have been okay with their POVs too.
Can you imagine the tension, angst, and yearning during the fight? Did they trade words or battle banter? Annabeth had recently dealt with the fallout of the Mark of Athena, and now she has to fight alongside the one who started that whole mess. This would have made for an excellent opportunity to address Annabeth's feelings and relationship with Athena across the series, giving that background plotline that has been since The Lightning Thief closure.
Or maybe the appearance of multiple sons of Poseidon across HOO foreshadows a final talk between Percy and Poseidon after the fight. After they can finally stand physically together side by side. Percy, after being left alone by his father once the Great Prophecy ended, feels the true (maybe now fully unconditional) support of his father for the first time in his life. A great send-off for Percy as a protagonist before focusing on new characters in the next sagas.
Just... they were DEMIGODS fighting alongside their GODLY PARENTS. That was huge. The kind of shit you only saw in fanfics. I just feel it could have been... more(?).
#pjo#hoo#percy jackson#annabeth chase#athena#poseidon#thoughts#nothing against the hoo demigods but they barely interacted or showed strong feelings towards their godly parents compared to the pjo ones#you can't tell me jason+zeus fight would have been the same as THALIA+ZEUS#or that Hazel+Hades the same as NICO+HADES#the aphrodite+piper match is a good one though. it would have been up there as a cool POV if. ya know. APHRODITE ACTUALLY FOUGHT
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Rereading Heroes of Olympus -
I don't think I was ever as confused as I was years ago when I flipped to chapter 1 and saw it said Jason -
Who?!
*Checking frantically if I even picked up the right book
*Realising that I did
*Understanding that we don't have those unhinged, encrypted chapter titles anymore
😭🤧🥲
#Not complaining about the change#I love the multiple POV's of Heroes of Olympus#But I was sooooo confused😭#And not to mention Lost#jason grace#piper mclean#leo valdez#jason and the argonauts#heroes of olympus#percy jackson fandom#pjo hoo toa#multiple pov#percy jackson#annabeth chase#uncle rick#percabeth
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THE THRILLING AND NOT AT ALL REPETITIVE ADVENTURES OF CAPTAIN MAN AND KID DANGER: “A CHRONOLOGY OF ENTIRELY TRUE AND HEROIC EVENTS COINCIDING WITH THE END OF HISTORY” [1] [2] [3] [4]
Henry Hart returns from Dystopia. He grew up and his hair grew back out, but it’ll take more time to get refamiliarized with the mundane.
[ Henry’s figure is ominously silhouetted, staring at Ray with the whites of his eyes and a glare of light where his heart should be. Ray smiles invitingly, and stands with his hands on his waist, wearing only a towel. A laundry basket sits next to him. Posters are mounted on the wall to his back, including Captain Man merchandise, motivational material, and a reference to The End of History and the Last Man. ]
Following the resolution of the Cold War, Francis Fukuyama argued in his 1992 political novel The End of History and the Last Man that global democratization and the expansion of Western, liberal values would bring about a post-war, post-development society. Democratization was the process in which civilization reached its final form; it would mark not only the end of communism, but the end of history. No more glorious revolution. No more hunger. The world could remain where it was. Fukuyama was, of course, wrong.
To be a hero is to know: there will be no end of history. You may hope for one, but you act as if it will never come, because it won’t. Otherwise, what is the point? There will be crime, and war, and hurt children. No amount of blood or money can save us for-ever. Your symbols cannot finish what has been started, but they can keep you alive until then; when you fight for long enough, it is hard to return to the repetitive things:
To living with people again.
To walking in the daylight without flinching, and, most importantly—
To laundry.
#henry danger#henry hart#ray manchester#henray#dangerverse#my art#pov: you’re back from the most dangerous place you’ve ever been which is basically overseas chicago and now you have ptsd and are#now disconnected from the mundane and domestic aspects of your former life. and your former idol mentor partner aspiration hero ruiner of#of your life is your roommate#which is fine! it is fine#Jasper and Charlotte and Piper are also included but just not in these panels. they exist somewhere. maybe I’ll end up finishing them#also pov: if they gave me a contract and said ok now do smt. this is what it would look like in a feverish haste#also I think I have a problem like this is such an obscure hyperfixation I’ve developed and now I’m insane
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I don’t get how people were mad while reading the Lost Hero because Jason wasn’t Percy. Like no duh he’s blond and has a scar on his lip and his name is Jason Grace not Percy Jackson. Not to mention the series is called Heroes of Olympus not Percy Jackson and the Olympians.
I get being bored or thinking he was a little boring but how can you expect a character that isn’t Percy Jackson to be Percy Jackson? The moment I read that the chapters pov was Jason I started accepting that I was reading about Jason not about Percy.
#that being said it took me forever to read that first book#Leo’s pov kept me going#And Annabeth’s name was a breath of fresh air#but I was never upset with Jason being Jason and not Percy#that’s so silly#percy jackson#jason grace#jason grace defender#heroes of olympus#the lost hero#pjo#hoo#percy jackson and the olympians#leo valdez#piper mclean#hoo opinions#pjo opinions#annabeth chase
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if no one said anything
he wouldve jumped back in the lake
#hoo#the lost hero#heroes of olympus#the heroes of olympus#page 38#piper pov#leo valdez#yay hes claimed#leo
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If Jason had been written to have atleast somewhat of a jealousy streak of Percy, then it would have made him more human tbh. Ironically I feel like the fandom would've been much more empathetic to his character, if he acknowledged that he envied Percy a little and then came to terms with it. We know that Jason's fear of being 2nd best is a very integral part of his character, I mean, Gaia taunting him with that in his nightmares was enough to reduce him into tears. and that's the ONLY time we've even remotely seen him cry. Percy had so many things Jason didn't have, a loving mom, a loving girlfriend who took a knife for him and never broke his heart, a loving camp that looked for him endlessly after he went missing, people ACTUALLY wanting him to survive because they care about him not because they need him for glory, etc. and if im being honest Poseidon wasn't even that bad of a father (for a big three god, atleast) tbh he still came to percy's 15th birthday, invited him to fishing, genuinely loved sally, she was probably the only mortal he fell in love with and it stayed that way, he was never rude to percy and stuck up for him etc. not tryna say percy had it easy or anything ofc he didnt, but there is no point in denying that he had a MUCH better support system than jason ever had.
The fact that Jason despite having none of these things was not even remotely envious of Percy made him appear like a bland robot with no emotional baggage
Compare this to Nico, who was rightfully a little jealous/idolizing Percy while simultaneously having a crush on him, also a little jealous of Jason because he was "the golden boy" who everyone respected, it made him have SO much depth and the fandom loves him (rightfully so)
also, leo. He was resentful of Percy up until blood of Olympus because of how everyone loved him, how Calypso fell for him almost immediately, etc. it's very realistic.Jason feeling a little resentful of Percy and then later talking it out would've made his character much less of a shallow stereotypical nice guy that ppl dislike.
maybe Rick could've expanded on Jason's jealousy of how quickly camp Jupiter accepted Percy and how quickly Reyna made him praetor, when jason himself had dedicated his whole life to it and was only made praetor in the last couple months, how camp Jupiter and his supposed friends never held a memorial for him even after they thought he was dead, etc. Also how Percy spent more time with thalia than jason ever did, we know he did feel a little envious since he mentioned how much he wished thalia looked for him the way she was looking for percy
I would've loved to see Jason being a little cold to Reyna too because of this and then they later talk it out, since it's VERY realistic, I was surprised with how quickly jason shrugged the whole Percy- being- a -praetor thing off, I thought he'd have felt a little betrayed by Reyna considering that they were childhood friends, and reyna never really sent a search party or something after him like annabeth did, gods, the amount of angst potential this man had i love him ugh
#I might write a fanfic abt this in his pov#Would y'all read it lol#I have so many thoughts rn#The potential UGHH#pjo#percy jackson#pjo hoo#pjo series#pjo hoo toa#pjo fandom#jason grace#piper mclean#leo valdez#annabeth chase#frank zhang#hazel levesque#nico di angelo#reyna avila ramirez arellano#pjo fanfic#percy jackon and the olympians#heroes of olympus
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Hey, quick question if you don't mind me asking but what are your thoughts on Drew Tanaka as a character and how she was portrayed in HOO?
canon drew...well. i rbed this post that says "drew was not written as a character but rather a human obstacle who needed to be feminine so the ‘not like other girls’ could defeat her," and i think that summarizes it perfectly. she exists exclusively to make piper look good, which is a real shame bc drew could've been interesting. as-is, drew is not only uninteresting, piper is also uninteresting by extension. it'd be like if nancy was one of percy's greatest obstacles in tlt.
more under the cut bc i'm incapable of keeping things short.
here, in her introduction, not only is drew, a feminine girl, vain, she's also weak and unintimidating, a triple whammy right away! she has no reason to be antagonistic towards piper here, they literally just got to camp. piper's crime right now is *checks notes* not looking cute and existing next to a "good-looking guy." oh, yeah, btw drew likes jason for being hot and powerful.
this triple whammy isn't even restricted to drew, it's the entire aphrodite cabin. they all giggle when drew flirts w jason and when piper is uncomfortable being "gorgeous" and are too scared and weak to stand up to drew. the two exceptions are a guy who got in trouble for saying piper "might not be so bad" and a girl who's afraid of ugly shoes. what an uninteresting take.
anyway, moments like this
are everywhere. now, let's remember for a moment that the aphrodite cabin (including drew!) fought in a war where they were outnumbered and won. but yeah, their biggest strength is their ability to "make an orange t-shirt glamorous" bc piper is the only one out of them who can *checks notes* uhhh run? charmspeak on a quest? carry a knife? she doesn't even know how to fight in tlh! she wasn't at camp for more than two days, she never had any fighting experience! the fact that she's being called tougher than ppl who fought in a war makes me grit my teeth. and thalia was there when it happened!
and it doesn't even makes sense bc we see aphrodite like this is ttc
and she says this in tlh
(also sidenote: why is aphrodite's claiming so egregious and uncomfortable then? it's like rick has a moment of clarity and realizes he's being stupid and then immediately fucks it up again.)
this is interesting! and some of these kids (including drew!) would have met this aphrodite during the solstices. so portraying drew and the aphrodite cabin as a bunch of shallow kids obsessed w makeup that need to be saved by piper "not like other girls" mclean is so contrived. and constantly bringing up how piper's so much better than those shallow and weak aphrodite kids makes piper's entire character grating. rick brings up aneaus repeatedly throughout tlh, a son of venus/aphrodite that founded rome. why are we acting like aphrodite children are weak and stupid when we could be exploring literally anything else? like, you know, how they're traumatized?
and the thing is, he brings up silena! and it's done terribly. piper, who never knew silena and never will, lecturing drew, someone who knew silena and was betrayed by her, has always pissed me off. piper relating to silena bc she feels like she's in the same position? good, that's fine, i have no problem w this. but acting like she knew silena to ppl who actually did and then preaching abt what silena believed should've gotten her smacked (rick didn't even addressed the actual important part, which is how the other campers feel abt silena or how they feel abt surviving a war).
then when piper challenges drew, again, drew fought in a war while piper hasn't trained for a single day, why are we acting like piper could beat drew in a fight? piper can't even use charmspeak bc drew's resistant to it! that's the one advantage piper has! writing it like this comes off like piper is only strong as long as everyone else is weak. she's not rising to a challenge, her competitor is just so pathetic that she can overpower them. she didn't earn her strength. that's not good character development! so we're throwing two entire character arcs away for this!
what really gets me abt all of this is that piper didn't need to be a counselor. piper needed a place to belong. making drew nothing more than a stepping-stone was completely unnecessary, and making the aphrodite cabin weak and vain was redundant bc we already had an example w silena (and again, all the kids that fought in a war). as it is in canon, drew's character is a great example of some of rick's biggest writing flaws.
#thanks for enabling me to rant anon#i haven't read piper's pov in so long bc it makes me wants to bash my head in#this isn't me hating on piper btw it's just impossible for me to read her pov without getting a faceful of rick's sexism#there's literally nothing wrong w being feminine but rick always acts like it's evil or weak. like UGH#and tlh is prime w sexism i had to keep reeling myself in to focus just on drew#i have other posts abt it tho if u want to browse#drew tanaka#drew#rr crit#hoo crit#answered#min talks pjo
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Piper: I feel like all I do is mess things up.
Shel: then mess up my lipstick by kissing me with all the passion you can manage, mess up my hair by grasping it between breaths, mess up my clothes by tearing them off impatiently, mess up my skin by covering it in obsessive love bites, mess up my bed by—
Piper, blushing: okay I think I get the message
#pov your gf is literally obsessed with you#(they're obsessed with each other and i love that for them)#piper mclean text post#piper mclean#shel pjo#shelper#pjo#percy jackson#heroes of olympus#hoo#trials of apollo#toa#pjo hoo toa#rrverse#riordanverse#rick riordan#sapphic#sapphism#lesbian#wlw#queer characters#psa: I'm the same age as them
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I'm gonna froth at the mouth over this in the tags so bear with me but reason #1278038 why the way rick went about breaking up jiper was bad: rereading her povs in hoo where she gushes over jason feels like even more of an unreliable narrator queer girl comphet psychological horror story
#it's not that that isn't interesting (it's fascinating actually. especially for a daughter of aphrodite!!!)#it's that it Obviously wasn't his og intention. the ending of hoo is clearly intended to give a positive impression of jiper#this is worsened because shelper is wildly underdeveloped so it's like Dude what did you even do this for#literally just an afterthought. a footnote really. he said “ok here's your canon sapphic rep pls stop shipping theyna now” /j#she was a main character in one of the main couples in hoo it's so crazy? how can that happen. he would never do this to percabeth#can you imagine if percabeth broke up offscreen and 2 months later annabeth was with some complete rando and then percy died. girl what#it's the kind of setup/payoff issue that is difficult to put into words because he set up something (jiper and all its complex morality)#to ultimately be good because they're making the choice to love each other in the end (poorly executed but whatever I don't hate it)#and then in toa????? he just obliterates them for no payoff and creates a new impression of the most literal case of comphet imaginable? wh#toa is my absolute least favorite sorry#marginally related but if we can Be. Chill. and acknowledge that he originally wrote nico as crushing on annabeth#(we can argue all day about how Definite the crush was but come on. he did not put percy's speculation of it in there for no reason)#(and he obviously did not plan for nico to be gay back then you will literally never convince me of this)#(representation was NOT on his mind in the first 5 books that's why the cast is almost completely white except charles and ethan)#(the disposable poc who die tragically btw)#then I see a similarly confusing debacle but like. in the opposite way#something something sexuality is fluid you can be gay and feel confused about how u used to have a het crush but are still gay#nico says so himself to piper which is hilarious#it's just the lack of consistency and poor planning that I hate........... it is a ginormous pet peeve of mine and it's All Over His Books#piper already reads as having so much growing to do regarding her gender and sexuality because Somebody#(the man writing her) littered her pov with internalized misogyny/anti hyperfemininity and went nowhere with it#rr crit#percy jackson and the olympians#piper mclean#jason grace#pjo hoo toa#anti jiper#<- I PROMISE I am not actually anti-jiper I am very neutral about it as I am with all jason ships. they had cute moments#tagging that just in case#this comes from a place of deep love for the franchise and it's characters btw I have been a fan since I was 8
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