#peter b: he has wHAT

[love-strikes-thrice]

YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE THAT LAST BIT IN THE TAGS-

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Miles: so I started seeing this guy~

Peter B., torn between being supportive and being a shithead: Good for you, kid, you were single for so long even I was getting depressed

Miles: >:(

Peter B.: I'm just kidding! C'mon, tell me about him!

Miles: Okay, so his name is Mikey, and he's the same age as me but he's homeschooled so we don't go to the same school which kind of sucks because I don't get to see him as much as I'd like to

Peter B.: Okay

Miles: But he's super into graffiti art like me - that's how we met, by the way - so we hang out after I get out of class and on weekends and stuff when we're not patrolling

Peter B.: I'm sorry, when "we're" not patrolling? What, do you bring your boyfriend with you on patrol?

Miles: oh, yeah! He's a vigilante too - well, he's a ninja, technically, but he actd more like a vigilante than a traditional ninja anyway

Peter B.: . . . A ninja?

Miles: Yeah! It's actually super cool, he and his brothers are all ninjas! It's awesome!

Peter B.: . . . How many brothers does he have?

Miles: He's got three older brothers, I think their names are Raphael, Donatello, and Leonardo? They use a bunch of different nicknames a lot so I'm not totally sure but I think that's their names.

Peter B.: Miles, answer me honestly

Miles: . . . Ooooookay?

Peter B.: Are you dating Michelangelo from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Miles: how did you know they were mutant turtles?

Peter B.: Holy Fucking Shit, you're dating Michelangelo from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Miles: What is happening? Why are you being weird?

Peter B.: Why are you dating a cartoon character from my childhood? Huh?

Miles: What????

Boyfriend problems.

Leo: RaphRaphRaphRaph I have amazing news! I got a boyfriend.

Raph: Aw that's awesome! Who is he?

Leo: Yuichi Usagi, remember that rabbit waiter?

Raph, who is scared of rabbits:..The what waiter?

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Mikey: Dad. I started dating this guy.

Splinter: That's good, tell me what is he like?

Mikey: He is so COOL! He has spider powers–

Splinter: He has what powers?

[aesthetic-uni]

Miles “Who’s Morales” vs Gwen “Gwwwwanda” vs Pavtir “You seem like a nice young woman I do not know” FIGHT

[bluegiragi]

they lost focus and had a consensual workplace relationship

nsfw on patreon

[nocek]

dads' day out ;)

wip is here but final comic version will be a bit different because "plot" reasons ;) (if you even can call my comics a story XD)

[the-cat-and-the-birdie]

About Miguel taking the place of Gabriella's father -

BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE MILD MIGUEL -

I know we say ooooohhhh Miguel is a psychopath, he's evil for taking her dads place. that's so creepy

and yeah, it is creepy. horror movie shit

But Question:

If you saw a child, a child belonging to another you, going through a deep pain, alone. Wouldn't you step in?

If you knew that a child was about to experience a traumatic event - and you were the only person in the universe with the ability to help.

Would you? Like you, personally. Or would you turn the other way and let fate take it's course?

Would you even have the strength to do that?

When Gwen lost her father in front of Jess, Jess felt like someone had to step in. WE felt like someone had to step in.

When Gabriella lost her father in front of Miguel - wouldn't he feel it too? Wouldn't you?

He did. He stepped in. And he tried to change it. And he killed her.

When Miguel and Jess are both faced with a young girl, on the verse of losing her father in an abrupt and traumatic way, they probably both thought the same -

'Someone has to do something. I have to do something.'

So with that in mind - can we imagine that Miguel felt that same way when looking at Gabriella? A girl who just lost her father abruptly? In a violent, permanent way?

Looking at her father and knowing that...eventually - Gabby is going to know something is wrong. Her father isn't coming home. And very soon - she's going to start getting scared.

Knowing that from this day forward her life will chance in a very big and very painful way.

Or it couldn't.

Or, he could step in. Or, he could head 'home'. He can tuck Gabby in like nothing happened. She could go on like she lived everyday - normal, happy, safe, and with a dad that loves her. Nothing has to change. No funeral. No death anniversaries. No empty space. All he has to do is step in. Or, he can look the other way and let fate take it's course. And let Gabriella end up wherever the universe decides.

What would you do? Can you even decide that?

Look, Do I think what Miguel did was right - taking her father's place? I don't know. Does it matter? Either way - Gabriella suffered.

But do I think Miguel is a psychopath? Do I think he was obsessed, and scheming? No. I don't at all. I think he, like Jess, saw a kid in need. I think he's normal. He's Just Miguel. I think he was monitoring the universe for other Miguels, the same way they monitor all universes for anomalies or recruits. And when Lyla told him about the death - about Gabby - he was faced with a very hard decision -

I don't believe Miguel - at his baseline - is an intentionally malicious person. In any capacity.

I think he's a dude, like Jess - who saw a little girl in need. And now he's in way too deep, and people are dying, and he doesn't know how to stop it no matter how hard he tries and everything he does seems to make it even worse

And when he's trying - when he pulling out all the stops, finding all the best, watching universes day & night - nothing helps. Anomalies keep happening.

Even after all that, after making a whole society - he can't stop it. People are still dying.

And the moment he realizes this - the moment Miles breaks free and escapes. He realized once again - the universe is in control. He was never going to fix it. He never could.

All the efforts he put into The Society can't stop Spot - and they can't stop Miles.

And now, because Miguel isn't good enough to catch him, people are going to die, on his watch AGAIN.

Or..at least that's how Miguel sees it.

Miguel didn't sign up for this. He didn't sign up to be a boss holding all of existence together with duct tape and silly string.

He signed up to be a dad. He just wanted to help a little girl.

And now people are dying, Gabriellas dead, People's universes are on the edge of collapse, and now Miles is coming into play, and he's gonna lose HIS dad and Hobie's finally gone AWOL knowing it was gonna come eventually -

And Yes, he snapped. (lol not in the cvnty way)

Between those moments he went from this -

To this. The emotional deterioration is sudden. Everyone around him is stunned he's capable of this.

Does Miguel even know he's capable of this?

I don't know.

I just know this is us seeing a Miguel with reasoning - and a Miguel without it. A Miguel who is being conscious about what he's doing and the words he's picking, to a Miguel running on pure rage and fury and desperation alone.

There's no planning here. There's no stopping to think. He can't and he won't. He wants everyone in the field now.

This is Miguel not being normal. And he got to this point -

All because he wanted to help a little girl. The same way we wanted to help Gwen.

I don't think Miguel's story is about an unhinged man using trauma as an excuse to rule with an iron fist.

I don't think that's what this is. Miguel's story is the same as Jess story is the same as Peter's story.

He wanted to help this kid who needed him. And it backfired.

I think Miguel's story is a reminder that sometimes our help can hurt.

And I think his story is a reminder that Yes, even normal people can reach Miguel's level of rage.

Even normal people can be pushed to the point total powerlessness, of feeling like everything you do makes everything worse. To total desperation - just to make anything better some way, some how. To just get any sense of control back when you're on a ride you didn't ask for and can't get off of.

No - I don't think anybody would go mauling children, but I do think there is a point where it does get to much. When literally nothing in the universe is going how you want it to, and you're angry. At it, and everyone in it, anyone that goes along with it-

Anybody can snap.

At this point..I'm not trying to justify what he did - I never was.

I guess I'm just saying I admire Miguel and his character depth for making a very difficult choice. And I hope Gabriella enjoyed the time she had left with Miguel.

Not because he deserved it.

Because she didn't deserve anything that happened to her. She deserved a loving and happy dad. And I hope that's what he gave her. I hope she didn't have to know about all this terrible shit, or why her dad had to wear that watch ALL THE TIME now.

I hope Miguel did what he came to do in the time he had to do it and everything else sucks.

But back to the question.

You see a scared child about to lose their parents. Do you help them?

If that child was technically your child, if they looked like you and laughed like you, - if you knew no one else in the universe could make this better BUT YOU - would you help them? Or no? No judgement, I'm just curious. Because honestly...I don't know what I'd do. At the very least, I don't think Miguel malicious. I don't think he was scheming. In fact, maybe he didn't even think twice.

Who knows.

But looking back, I think everything - everything we see happen in ATSV - was solidified the moment he stepped into Gabriella's world. I don't think there was ever really a point where Miguel would be allowed to say 'I'm in over my head and I need out.'

He was never going to fix it. He never could. We know it. Maybe he knows it too.

But that doesn't mean he can stop trying.

Miguel was never gonna fix it. He was always bound to snap.

I guess what I'm saying is I feel bad for Miguel. Shoot me. Call it a brick and a hard place. But also don't maul kids.

I think he's just Miguel. And he's in way too deep, because he wanted to help. Some Mild Miguel. But anyway -

If you were Miguel: Would you have helped Gabriella?

BONUS QUESTION: If you knew you were going to be leaving behind an orphan child- and you knew your other self would love your child like their own and take your place without the kid enduring the pain - would you want them to step in, or no? Would you rather your kid know you're dead, and then let the system and proceedures play out as fate makes it?

[ckret2]

Here’s an odd question that I don’t know if you’ve answered yet, but what’s bill’s mental age? Like I know he’s older than our universe, but with the subject of mental maturity and all that I personally think he’d be between the mental age of 14 - 17 18, young enough to still be classified as a child, but not old enough to be seen as an adult. Or maybe like 23

If a 90-year-old who's lived a full normal life and had a career and everything still screams at servers when they get his order wrong, because he's figured out that everyone bows down to him and does whatever he wants when he screams, is he "mentally" a child? Or is he just an asshole? I think he's just an asshole.

Bill's not Peter Pan. Immortality didn't magically freeze his mental development. "Bill acts immature" doesn't mean "he literally has the mind of a child," it means "he's repeatedly chosen not to do the hard mental & emotional work to become a better person even though he could have." In many ways he's emotionally stagnant, but not "emotionally stagnant" in a magical way; "emotionally stagnant" like a full-ass adult who still thinks getting what he wants is more important than treating other people with dignity and respect because he's never faced consequences. In other ways, he thinks, acts, and feels like he's extremely old. Even if he'd become immortal as a 5-year-old, there's no way in hell you could call him a mental 5-year-old now.

But he didn't become immortal as a 5-year-old. As I write him, Bill physically lost his body and became immortal around age 20. No matter if you're trying to judge him by his present-day age or by the age he lost his body, he's an adult.

Beyond "that's an adult," I'm not gonna try to compare his mental age to any human developmental milestones. Being a trillion just makes it nonsensical. He's got traits from every age.

[panstovoid]

Thank god for spider noir being in beyond the spiderverse because Peter b is going to need another adult to help out with his 6 kids. Especially since he’s going to have Gwen “I would break all rules just to see my favorite people in the world” Stacy, Hobie “Major InstigatorTM” Brown, Miles “I’m gonna do my own thing and it’s going to be chaotic and crazy” Morales, Pavitr “I am ready to go along with the ride so long as it’s against colonizers” Prabahakar, and Peter “I operate on cartoon logic” Porker all in one single group.

[iwasbored777]

"But why did Gwen push Miles away like that if she loves him so much?" You ask as if in the same movie we didn't watch her father, the person she loves more than anything and the person that she thought that loves her more than anything, disown her right away because he learned one thing about her that he didn't like.

[papirouge]

"The sell your cloak and buy a sword" has to be one of the most misquoted Bible verse EVER

It's now become a pet peeve of mine Witnessing all these idiots with surface level theology take this passage at face value and mUh tHe BibLe wAnTs yOu tO bUy gUnS!! and seemingly don't have enough braincells left to rub to realize that the Sword is a metaphor for the Word/Christ crossing several books in the Bible AND that Jesus rebuked Peter for using the very same weapon he was allegedly okay with him using, and went as far as to heal the very man he harmed doing so, but hey I guess expecting those Christians to have a crumb of critical thinking skills might be a little bit too much to ask

[thetimelordbatgirl]

Girl help someone in DC and Marvel characters crossover ships on twitter, actually put Raven and Wiccan together as a ship.

[whippedcloudsofcream]

Honestly, it’s sad to think about how Miguel was once really close to all the Spider People. He probably had his own easy going and goofy personality, because how else would he get so many of them to join the Spider Society? But then his tragedies happened and he found out what they had to sacrifice, what they had to do. This cool club that they had for fun and to help people turned into a harsh and strict system. You can tell by the interactions Miguel has with everyone that they miss who he used to be.

[bluestone-dragon]

Okay I'm watching White Collar on Netflix and I quite like it, but [season 3 or 4 spoilers; I don't remember which season I'm on] what the actual fudge was that decision to have El tell Neal to back off Peter after the Pratt car accident? It makes zero sense and feels like it was thrown in to make the plot more complicated, regardless of how loyal it is to El's previously-established character. (Disclaimer that I haven't yet watched the whole show; I just finished the episode this takes place in.)

El knows how hard Neal has worked to earn Peter's trust, she knows how hard Peter's worked to trust Neal, and she's seen how much anguish they BOTH go through each time they're dishonest with each other. Furthermore, not involving Peter in the key investigation doesn't do anything: Pratt already knows Peter's investigating him and is already making Peter's life difficult without knowing about the key (see: the car "accident" that started this whole thing in the first place). If anything, Peter following the key investigation only helps Peter, because if he and Neal pool their resources, they're more likely the find the evidence box faster, which can help them take down Pratt. El telling Neal to cut Peter out of the key investigation is utterly nonsensical (at least to me).

[milimeters-morales]

(NOT ATSV) my ideal miguel and miles friendship (bordering on enemies) dynamic is where Miles is sort of a Mean Girls figure where he’ll say the worst things to Miguel, who actually has no problems dishing that shit right back out, is usually too fed up or somewhere else mentally to reply. They fight a lot, more physically than verbally, usually in a slapstick comedy type of way. Miles is banned from Nueva York once a month and got a restraining order against Miguel in his own dimension. His parents fucking hate him and Miguel hates them right back. Rio has tried and failed to poison him via food and Jeff is considering hiring a hitman. Gabriel is beloved by them. Miles takes Miguel’s money at least twice a week to go spend it just because he can. Miguel has tried (and succeeded once) to get Miles sick with a future illness because he figured out the lesbian bar Miguel liked to perform at in drag. Miles has cried at least once in every room of Miguel’s apartment and Miguel has been confused on what to do each time besides an awkward hug and pat on the back. People are rightfully worried for Miles’s safety at least 80% of the time but when they aren’t they’re shaking their heads at the two’s antics. They need to be separated until they have a healthy “this is a grown ass man / this is stupid little girl i don’t like at work” relationship and it’ll take an act of god for either of them to realize their current one isn’t healthy at all and has extremely negative impacts on their mental state.

[melodiesblue]

I watched dungeon meshi.

I get it now.

[phoenixcatch7]

Okay but like Peter Parker reincarnated as dick grayson angst

[the-cat-and-the-birdie]

"Peter didn't say anything to Miguel cause he was scared of Miguel after what he just saw him do."

umm what did he see

I mean yeah he saw Miguel bugging out but like..

Peter just saw Miles - a 15 year old - beat Miguel. I don't know

if he's still SO scared of Miguel in that moment doesn't that imply that Peter thinks he's weaker than Miles?

IS he weaker than Miles? Cause if that's the case-

But if he is more powerful than Miles then wouldn't he be able to beat Mig-

you know what girl I ain't even gonna let that thought be thunk lemme shut the hell up