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My personal interpretation of the sides on tiktok and what flavor of comments that they leave
(Note: when I say weird people I donât mean like cringe for interests or to be mean, I mean like deviants of society like those people that treat tiktok like a personal diary with no warning and are like genuinely freakazoids in a BAD WAY..)
Patton: always cooking videos but not the weird ones and he just scrolls when he sees those. Occasionally heâll get art on there and his usual comment is âyou know what, heaven yeah!â Like he definitely isnât the type to leave hate comments or anything or heâll leave genuine advice!
Roman: Musical theater. So much. Too much to count. Thereâs so much. He makes obscure references whenever he can to musicals in comments as well as Disney movies and usually doesnât say much else. When something weird does come up he would be the type to just ignore it or if itâs like REPREHENSIBLE then heâll go like âermâŠâ or âqueen that isnât normal actuallyâ âmaybe this is a sign?â âAnd the crowd!⊠the crowd is leavingâ
Virgil: definitely a lot of music. Mostly fellow emo or goth and sometimes scene people. He had 50k saved sounds no doubt. He usually doesnât interact with mainstream tiktok like at all (also probably prefers tumblr and Twitter anyway) but when he sees something weird heâll just say âok.â Or âidk leave me alone.â
Logan: Science and space tiktoks though he doesnât use it much on the for you page and prefers the stem page offered. When he sees weird stuff if he gets mixed up or something then he usually wonât comment but if heâs in a really bad mood heâll comment similar to Virgil with the âi donât know.â Or âwhy is this on my for you page, this is not for me.â
Janus: gets those bullshit psychology videos on his fyp often and they make him laugh so hard because he knows itâs all stupid and fake. He does not hold back at all and regularly engaged with the weird tiktoks and the odd people because he thinks itâs funny âon my cellular device?â Or ânurse, itâs out againâŠâ
Remus: gets almost solely brainrot content and cryptic videos in other languages. Every time he sees a Russian watermelon video on his fyp he immediately saves it and then sends it to Janus (and sometimes Patton and the poor guy just responds âthat sure is a lot of watermelons! đđâ) he is the type to comment things that feed into peopleâs delusions definitely. âYes queen, go get him heâs in love!â Or weird things âI did this and I got stabbed sixty seven times in the chest!!!â
#sanders sides#sasi#ts sides#logan sanders#roman sanders#virgil sanders#patton sanders#remus sanders#janus sanders#tiktok#tiktok ban#iâm mourning#headcanon#this is them in my head
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thinking about the moment janus finally breaks. he's convinced himself that he doesn't need to be liked by the others, that he's alright being hated, as long as he's able to do his job. but it has to weigh on him. it has to erode at him slowly, through the years, resentment building. he keeps a tally of the times he's protected thomas on his wall, to remind himself of why he keeps going despite never once being thanked. his form of protection is seen as immoral, his defenses misinterpreted as attacks on thomas' moral code. every other side casts him in the role of the villain, as some outside force of evil, instead of an integral part of thomas' mind.
that has to weigh on him.
i imagine he was born sometime after the twins, around the same time as patton, since they are two sides of a coin. selfishness and selflessness. self-preservation and morality. the side that protects thomas first and foremost and the side that protects thomas' integrity and morals.
they clashed from the start, but with every lie thomas told to protect himself, the rift grew larger and larger, patton's guilt grew stronger and stronger, until eventually he began to reject janus as a part of thomas at all. and the others followed suit.
janus was the first dark side, the first side of thomas that the others couldn't accept. which meant that he was cast out alone, young, probably no older than 12, into an empty space. he started keeping a tally. a tally, just for himself. a torn off paper from a notebook, a single pencil. to keep track of every time he saved thomas. protected thomas. kept thomas safe. slowly, the wall filled out. drawings of thomas. lists of things thomas likes. lists of things thomas could do to calm down when stressed.
but thomas didn't know him. the others were keeping him locked up there, in his own room of darkness, he grew bitter and resentful.
everything that happened happens, and everyone expects him to just move on from the years of rejection and ungratefulness.
and one day, he just breaks.
one last comment from a well-meaning patton, one last "he's trying to manipulate you" at thomas, and suddenly janus is screaming and sobbing, "why won't you listen to me? why does no one ever listen to me? i'm a part of him too, i'm not working against you, i'm not your enemy, i love him, i've always loved him. i just want to help him. i want to protect him. that's all. that's all i've ever wanted."
and there's a moment of silence, of confusion. janus disappears into his room.
they find him in the corner, by the pages. there must be hundreds of them by now. lists of likes, dislikes, triggers, comforts. a tally reaching over the original page, now filling the wall next to it instead. self-care guides personalized for thomas. ineffective defense mechanisms crossed out, effective ones circled. an entire and extensive guide to taking care of thomas sanders, built through the years with incredible care and affection, a monument to janus' love for thomas.
and that's when the others realize, all at once, that thomas probably would not be alive right now if it weren't for janus.
one after the other, they reach out to touch him. to hold him. for the first time taking him into their arms as one of their own. their deceit. their self-preservation. he's exhausted to the point of not reciprocating the touch in any way, but his eyes are closed and his muscles relax, he lets his body be held and loved as he weeps out the rest of his resentment into their arms. finally accepted.
but the most important touch is thomas' own. he reaches out, after a moment's hesitation, to hold janus' face in his hands. he stares into his eyes, finally understanding this part of himself for what it is. he pulls him into a gentle kiss, not romantic, just comfort. again, and again, and again, as he whispers what janus has wanted to hear all this time "thank you, thank you, thank you. i love you. you're mine. i love you. please stay. please be a part of me forever."
#normal feelings today lads#ouuhhhbh...somehow the sasi hyperfixation returned.../ref#sasi#sanders sides#tss#ts sides#janus sanders#deceit sanders#sasi janus#ts janus
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2024 in what made me happy: a misc list
the broadcast schedules of cdrama. this year, for the first time, i finished a cdrama because i saw one gif set of wu jinyang telling wang xingyue that he was handsome in the pouring rain. after the double, i watched and loved love like the galaxy, watched and loved amidst a snowstorm of love. then, i began watching and loving blossom as it aired new episodes every single day. i love what this has done to my drama-watching routines because it's not as fickle as a binge drop and it's not as sedate as weekly drops.
no, but weekly drops too. especially, only murders in the building and running to reddit to see what all the hot new theories are. and, culinary class wars â that was a good month.
i refused to listen to podcasts, and it made some small room to listen to other, more useful, voices. i didnât finish books i cared little for. i closed tabs and deleted bookmarks more often. i didn't attend any weddings, in an attempt to recover from the weddings i did attend in 2023 and the 2025 invitations currently dinging on my whatsapp.
got a job, hated it, found some courage to turn back on the excellent pay, and left it. got another job soon enough, one that now keeps me on my toes but isn't painful on my heels.
my mother's saree collection, and to the first year of my life when i got to wear them on the reg.
learning chinese and refining my urdu. i can now recall maybe 15 chinese characters without fumbling and read a faiz poem slowly, with a pencil and in a quiet room. it's great because it's so difficult.
saife hassan, whose direction of zard patton ka bunn has (a) seized me back into pakistani drama (b) given me meenu and nofil's tender, sweet romance (c) brought back feelings that i thought dead and wouldn't want to articulate in this space.
the ambition in as byatt's possession, which crept into my dreams to remind me that i am slacking and in cixin liu's three-body problem, which crept into my nightmares to remind me that the grand architecture held in the entirety of my imagination is a speck in the universe. i can't tell you if i loved or even enjoyed either book but i don't think it matters. i have reserved the remaining two books of liu's trilogy for 2025.
steaming white rice with a spoonful of ghee and a smattering of salt, the most delicious appetizer to any meal.
last year, after avoiding them because they were always priced higher, i began buying poetry books. this growing bedside stack has been my solace and i love reaching for a random page to find something i needed to read in that moment. i began this year with my dearest heaney and i intend to end it with cavafy.
the discipline of a simple skincare routine, which i am not always good at keeping up with and my skin isn't all that better either but i am trying.
syd & carmy & richie & tina & marcus & chef terry & everyone else in the bear.
the soundtrack of lovely runner kept me company on some of the longest commutes and shut out loud arguments in the ladies compartment. the soundtrack of love like the galaxy felt like the soundtrack of my life for about three months this year. the soundtrack of the last samurai came out of nowhere to aid me during difficult work sessions. i am always in search of appropriate times to blast the soundtrack of gully boy, the weeknd's my dear melancholy, and frou frou's details. there's no lack of appropriate times to blast a rahman album.
driving, i guess. i resisted for as long as i could because i am a public transportation person but i do not live in a city that is conducive for it. i do feel a strange sense of accomplishment at learning this skill.
the classics that i missed when they were being defined as such: i loved moonstruck's ridiculous commitment to being perfect because of its loudness and not despite it. sandra and keanu really did something special with speed (i know!!!) and i was beyond thrilled to experience that kind of textured action filmmaking. michael clayton and the pelican brief were wonderful watches as smaller, quieter, revelatory films where stars get to be actors. lee mi-sook in an affair changed me at a molecular level.
i fell in love all over again with short films and documentaries: loved sean wang's silly and heartfelt nÇi nai & wĂ i pĂł, loved maryam takafory's touching irani bag. i rewatched amit dutta's nainsukh a full decade after i first watched it in college and i am yet to figure out how he did it.
monsoons, which i didn't get to experience this year but about which i read a miscellaneous ton in search of a doctoral thesis topic for whenever i choose the take the plunge. i am never not thinking about those winds and those rains from my childhood and the limited future i can imagine for myself.
my k-pop listening has suffered because my favourites are serving in the military but i held on thanks to the loving embrace of enhypen. i watched their online concerts with utmost pleasure. best performances: enhypen. best album: ateez's golden hour, part 2. best music video: stray kids' chk chk boom.
hozier singing i think i'll take my whiskey neat / my coffee black and my bed at three / you're too sweet for me.
so much hozier, london grammar, rahman, the hindi cinema by the decade playlists on spotify, and terrible tiktok music that unfortunately sound fab in the car music system.
my loved ones and all of you, who are better than me in every way that counts.
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7TH COMIC RAMBLINGS
saw more of my wife... life is good. my ass is filled with so much endorphins rn
SPOILERS
seems like Admin's petty tomfuckery is based on something Zeph did to her a long time ago (presumably that led to her parents dying) though judging from the cover variants, there's no clear answer. (she said it herself, she's forgotten why she was so vengeful in the first place.)
she's such a petty bitch i both love and hate that for her
toxic doomed energy and for what TTOTT crusty ass old man
xxxxx
JANE DOE AND ZHANNA'S CHILDREN!!! General Patton Doe - first-born, named after George S. Patton (his first name is just General honestly. slay ig)
Georgia Washington Doe - second-born, named after George Washington(?)
.......both of them are named after Georges........
xxxxx
seems like in canon there's only 7 teams. kinda thought of that already after Cheavy's complaints but this mural settles it
A- Ajax (Their Heavy)
B (Their Sniper)
C- Citadel (Their Scout)
D (Their Demoman)
E- Echelon (Their Spy)
F- Fortress
seems like Fortress is the "he who shall not be named" in there... sighs.
so with this panel, this is probably Team D's Demoman.... Tavish just looking at this dude i'd shit myself too TTOTT
seems to be another team's Pyro.....
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SHE'S SO PETTYYYYYYYY <333
this part makes me both sad and giggly cause damn RIGHT. she was solely fueled by revenge TT_TT
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ngl it made me so happy to see these two again.... my babies. though mann co being co-owned by them seems like a nice ending for them :))
xxxxx
ALSO CANON SCOUT NAME REVEAL WOOHOO!!! the etches on the mailbox makes me so sad. at least he's a father that sticks around for his children (also just. the way he's like scout ma i'm going to kms :((. WHERE IS SCOUT MA IN THISSSS I NEED TO SEE THEM BOTH BEING HAPPY)
SCOUT'S KIDDIES
THIS WHOLE PAGE... seems like Spy grandpa arc will never be real. riots
Doe fam definitely brought these rations WAHAHAH
ALSO these photos.... i'm sobbing
love is real :''''')
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Your Average Petty Sinner
AO3 link (pending)
Summary- Patton goes through an Emo phase and decides to hang out with the most notorious kids at school, going so far as to try to date their leader.
Relationships- Janus&Patton (Moceit), Remus/Virgil (Dukexiety)
Word Count- 5.4k
Content Warnings- swearing, mild description of injury, mild sexual innuendos
This is my @sanderssidesgiftxchange gift for @lily-janus đđ I really hope you like it! Also a shout out to @infinitesimal-dna for beta reading and putting up with my shenanigans.
âI just don't get it!â Patton frantically paced the small patch of faded pale blue carpet that was visible in his cluttered room, âI literally caught them with cigarettes and lighters in the bathroom- how did they weasel out of detention this time?â
Roman barely looked up from the script in his hand as he lounged on Pattonâs bed, âI don't know. Remus didn't say when Mom picked us up. They weren't going to hurt anyone but themselves.â
âLighters start fires- they could have caused a fire alarm and some freshman could have been trampled in the ensuing panic while the science wing burned down-â Patton whipped back to face Roman who remained unperturbed.Â
âAnd none of that happened. You saved the day, Padre. Why can't you just be happy about that?â
âBecause they didn't get in trouble!â Patton crossed his arms tight over his chest and resumed his pacing, âwhy turn in the bad kids if they're just going to be let go?â
âSounds like you want to put my brother in jail,â Roman snickered and briefly looked up, âI don't know why. Why do you snitch on them?â Roman countered
Patton bit down hard on his lip before taking a measured breath, âI am not snitching. They just keep breaking the rules in front of me.â
âI think you just want Janus to notice you. Trust me, he does, sweetie. Remus won't stop complaining about how much the goodie two shoes need to fu- leave them alone,â Roman replies, remembering too late the household ban on swears.
âSHH! Donât let Mom hear you.â Patton whispered tersely, âyouâre wrong. I donât care what any of them think about meâ especially not Janus.â
Roman snorted, âYeah, right. Thatâs why youâre constantly tattling on him. Didnât anyone ever tell you that when a boyâs mean to you that means he likes you?â
Patton stopped in his tracks and turned back to face Roman, âThatâs⊠completely untrue.â
Roman rolled his eyes, flipping a page lazily, âJust keep telling yourself that, Padre. I bet if you just asked heâd go out with you.â
âIâm not gay and I donât want to go out with him,â Patton countered, âwill you please just be quiet? My mom would kick you out in two seconds for being a quote âbad influenceâ if she heard you right now.â
âMmm fine. Alright. I wonât talk about your obvious crush on Mr. Tall, Dark and Mysterious.â
âI am not- Why donât you understand that not everyone has to like guys?âÂ
Roman sat up, âIâm not saying everyone. I just know you, Patt. You donât like girls. Youâve turned down like twenty of them since homecoming last year. So if you donât like girls, that just leaves guys. I know you donât feel comfortable bringing a bf home because of the witch, but youâve at least got to let yourself consider the possibility.â
âMaybe I just havenât met the right girl,â Patton replied, not sounding as convincing as he should have to shut down the conversation.
Roman chuckled, âsure. Because sheâs actually a boy named Janus and youâre looking in the wrong places.â
âRoman!â
âJust ask him!â
âHe hates me. And I donât like him.â
âYou absolutely fucking do!â
âRoman!â Patton hissed, flinching as he could hear his motherâs footsteps coming down the hallway. âNow youâve done it-â he muttered as the bedroom door clicked and swung open.
âPatton, sweetie. Whatâs our rule for having friends over?â his mother asked from the door, a falsely sweet and disarming voice cutting through the tension of the argument.
Patton turned, âthey need to follow house rules and not distract from school workâŠâ
âThatâs right. If Iâm not mistaken, I believe I heard Mr. Prince here swearing. That is no way to speak to others, is it?âÂ
âNo, maâam,â Patton replied, head hung in defeat.Â
She turned towards Roman, âExactly. Iâm sorry dear, but you need to leave and reevaluate your vocabulary and manners if you want to spend time with my son.â
âSorry, Patt,â Roman murmured as he grabbed his backpack and walked past to leave, âtomorrow. Just do it.âÂ
Patton sighed with exasperation, âPlease, Mom, let him stay? He didnât mean to-â
âYou know the rules, Patton. I think itâs about time you got started on your homework,â she brushed him off, escorting Roman out to the front door.Â
Patton waited until he heard the front door shutting before closing his bedroom door to get started on his work, trying to tune out his racing thoughts about school.Â
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 Janus slumped against the lockers, ignoring the dirty look from Susan next to him when he accidentally shut hers for her. It wasnât his fault her locker was so close to Virgilâs. He gripped the head of his cane to keep it from sliding into the throng of students that would trample and crack it without a second thought. The polished wooden cane had cost a fortune, stained black with a yellow snake carved around the shaft up to the handle. He'd refused to adopt a medical-looking metal bully magnet and protected his aide fiercely. Janus silently watched Virgil picking out text books for the next class.
âWhat a bitch, right?â he asked once Virgil had noticed him.Â
Virgil nodded sagely, âYeah. Whoâre we talking about this time?â
Janus smirked, âMrs. Hansen, of course. Itâs like she doesnât even care that I donât give a fuck about Physics.â
âShe held you after class again? That bitch!â Virgil gaped, closing his locker, âthat is so messed up. You should tell the VP that sheâs not respecting your accommodations, right?â
âLike he ever cared the twenty thousand other times someone tried to make life harder,â Janus scoffed, glancing at the disturbance coming down the hallway and opting not to warn Virgil.
With all the subtlety of a tornado, Janus watched as Remus pinned Virgil to the lockers, dropping his backpack at Janusâ feet in his hurry to get hands on the boy. Virgil grunted in surprise, pushing back against the attack until he recognized the lips pressed harshly into his neck.
âRem-! Oh my god!â Virgil laughed breathlessly, âI told you not at school, motherfucker!â
Remus looked up with a devious grin, âand? Your mother said she loved it.â
âGross,â Virgil chuckled and pulled his boyfriend into a tight hug, âI missed you.â
Janus rolled his eyes, pushing the discarded backpack away with the tip of his cane, âItâs been all of an hour since you two last molested each other in front of the entire school.â
âJealous, Jannie?â
âUtterly green with envy,â Janus sighed, noticing the crowd in the hall thinning rapidly, âare you done playing tongue hockey yet?â
âNever,â Remus laughed and turned back to Virgil, cutting off his protests with a filthy kiss.
âIâm honestly surprised you havenât figured out how to make gay love babies yet,â Janus replied, carefully readjusting his treasured suede gloves. The crowds of students dissipated and doors shut as the bell for the next period rang through the now empty halls.
Janus nudged the pair, âBiology will have to wait. Let's get going.â
âOh come on!â Remus whined, âjust tell Mr. Sawan you got held back and we're helping you-â
âIt's not a lie for once,â Virgil added, leaning down to grab Remus' bag.
âAnd they say I'm the bad influence,â Janus scoffed, grabbing his cane to start towards class. Virgil and Remus reluctantly followed, careful to give him space to walk.Â
Janus wasn't actually eager to get to class. Everyone always stared when he walked in late, despite arriving late by necessity every day. The scrutiny felt absolutely miserable.Â
As they neared the stairs down to the mathematics wing, Janus paused to let the couple go first. The last thing he wanted was to slip all the way down into a concussion.
âHey!â A voice called loudly from down the hall, âaren't you supposed to be in class?â
Janus glanced over and swore quietly at the sight of the world's most annoying goody two shoes coming towards them.
âPatton. Where do you think we're going?â He asked in a lazy drawl.
âYeah, calm your tits,â Remus added less than helpfully.
Patton frowned, glancing down at his chest for a brief moment, âI don't have- the bell rang five minutes ago. You're supposed to be in class. I bet you're out here trying to smoke and ditch class.â
âHow? You stole my lighter yesterday,â Virgil snarked back, arms crossed tightly over his chest.
âItâs against school policy-â Patton started.
âWhat's against policy is a student trying to police other students. I literally cannot walk the halls when everyone else is running around,â Janus spoke up, standing up straighter. âWe'd have made it by now if you hadn't interrupted us.â
âYou liar. You're just messing around to get out of class,â Patton accused, stepping closer as if to intimidate Janus.
He laughed, âwe have this discussion once a week! If I didn't know better, I would think you're going out of your way to flirt with me.â
An inscrutable look passed over Pattonâs face, freckles melting into a soft flustered blush. âI am not!â Patton whispered hoarsely.
âThen we'll just be on our way,â Janus sneered, starting down the first step, cane first.
âHey!â Patton gasped, reaching for Janusâs shoulder. Janus flinched at the unexpected touch, shifting to toss Patton as far from him as possible.
Unfortunately, this sent the boy careening down the flight of stairs.
âShit!â Janus exclaimed, watching in horror and slight mesmerism as Patton came to a halt on the first landing.
âYou killed him!â Remus cackled with glee at the possibility.
âJan- what the fuck?â Virgil asked, not sure if he should move to help Patton or not.
Janus glanced down the hall, and seeing no one, made his decision.
âVirgil, help me get him to the nurse.â he instructed. âRemus, get to class and tell them Virgil and I cannot make it. Give as little context as possible, got it?â
Remus nodded and hurried to the class.
Janus hurried down the steps as fast as he could manage to the place Patton lay on the stairs.
âWh- why?â Patton murmured, cradling his shoulder, âI- I wasn't-â
âNext time don't touch people without permission,â Janus snapped, reaching to pick Patton up, âcan you walk?â
âI- I think so?â Patton winced, trying to sit up with both of the others pulling him up, âd-don't pull my arm, please.â
Janus nodded, âright, let's go, before you die or something.â
âGood going, Jan,â Virgil groaned as Patton leaned more heavily against him.
âShut it, Vi. I didn't do anything.â
The walk down the rest of the stairs and to the nurse's office felt impossibly long and arduous, as Patton moved slower than even Janus. And he moaned in pain at each jostle to his arm.
âYou're going to be okay,â Virgil chewed at his cheek, âit wasn't that bad of a fall.â
âI- I hope so,â Patton murmured, âwhy are the bad kids helping me?â
Janus rolled his eyes, âwho said we're bad?â
âI- you always get in trouble,â Patton tried to explain.
âYeah. Because you're always trying to get us in trouble,â Virgil scoffed.
âI don't expect you to understand, Patton,â Janus stopped as they reached the nurseâs office, â but sometimes people just don't think like you.â
Patton nodded then tried to walk into the office, âthanks, I guess.â
Janus rolled his eyes, turning to head back to class, only to be confronted with the imposing figure of the school vice principal.
âWhat's this, then?â
âOh- sir, I can explain,â Janus offered hastily.
âYou will,â the man nodded, pointing towards his office, âIf you please, Mr. Shephard.â
Virgil fiddled with his sleeves, âIt was completely an accident. We were just helping Patton.â
âHe fell down the stairs after slipping on a spilled water bottle,â Janus protested, already tired of walking, âI think he hit his head so we didn't want to leave him alone before he could get over here.â
âI see,â the man eyed the two, âis that so?â
âYes. That's what happened.â Janus nodded emphatically. He watched the disciplinarian's face to see if he bought the story.
âGet to your class,â the vice principal barked, and the two wasted no time disappearing down the hallway.
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Patton stirred and sat gingerly up in bed. A needle of pain shot through his shoulder at the weight pressed on it.Â
âOh- f-â
âPatton!â His mother stood at the door to his room with a sour look on her face.
âI was going to say âfudgeâ,â Patton gritted his teeth.
âHonestly, when did I raise such a delinquent?â She shook her head and barged her way in, âbullying other students and now swearing? Certainly nothing I taught you.â
âMom!â
âI won't hear it. Luckily, some of your classmates collected your homework assignments for you. Behave yourself with them,â she scolded.
âI'm not a bully,â Patton muttered, gazing up at the ceiling as though the stucco could offer him the strength to endure her accusations.
âFor the record, no one said you were but her. I donât know why she thinks that,â Patton looked back to the door sharply, finding his mother replaced with Virgil standing slouched against the frame, a book bag slung over one shoulder. âHey- I hope it's okay I- let's not worry about how I knew your address. How⊠are.. you?â
âI've been better. The doctor poked and prodded me a lot yesterday.âÂ
âYikesâŠâ
Patton nods, âIâll be back in school by Monday. Unless I go completely loopy in the head. But I think the sprain in my shoulder is worse. Is Janus okay?â
âHuh? Oh, yeah. He was tired from all the running around but like.. I donât think heâs mad at you, if thatâs what youâre worried about,â Virgil glanced back to the door before leaning closer to ask, âis she always like that?â
Patton nodded, âyeah⊠thatâs my mom for you.â
Virgil swung his bag onto the bed, âalright, well, Iâve got your homework for the classes you missed.. And I thought you might like some music to pass the time? Itâs the kind I listen to when I get really upset,â Virgil explained with a pointed look as he pulled a disk in a clear cover out of the bag with the school books, âjust.. Let me know what you think if you do. Iâm really sorry about what happened.â
âItâs not your fault, Virge-â Patton shook his head and then winced, âthank you, though.â
âNo worries. I- uh.. Look forward to seeing you..? Yeah. Get better soon.â
Patton watched as Virgil exited his bedroom, confused why he of any of the kids at school brought him make up work. He examined the CD, turning it to read the sharpie writing, a list of songs with artists listed in incomprehensible initials. He turned the case over, noticing a small piece of paper tucked under the CD inside the case. Intrigued, he pried the case open and popped the CD out, laying it on the blanket. He retrieved the small folded paper from his lap, carefully picking it apart.Â
I didnât push you down the stairs. I also did not try to help you after you tripped. If you tell anyone I did, I wonât hesitate to make you regret it. -J
Patton frowned, confused by the note. He tossed it aside and pulled out his portable CD player to listen to the mixtape without his mom listening in. He laid back, letting the beats and melodies wash over him. As he listened, an idea started to form, one of which he was barely conscious.
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âAre you insane?â Roman stared far more openly than other students in the hall. Patton shrugged and pushed past his friend to his locker.
âIâm just trying something new,â Patton replied, hanging his backpack up and picking out books for the first class. He tried very hard to not express frustration when the bookbag caught on the spikes sticking out of one of his many new bracelets.Â
âYou look ridiculous. You hate black! What is going on?âÂ
âI can wear whatever I want, Ro. You sound like my mother right now.âÂ
That shut Romanâs protests up quickly. Patton hummed to himself, reaching into the bag to pull out a brand new makeup pallet made of browns and blacks, picking the darkest shade to dab onto his eyelids.
âHow hard did you hit your head?â Roman asked, staring in even more shock and disbelief.Â
âMy head is fine, Roman. I told you Iâm trying something new,â Patton explained.
âOh Hey! When did you get hot, Pat-Pat?â Remus yelled, dragging Virgil behind him from down the hall.
âWoah- Patton, are you okay?â Virgil asked as they reached him and Roman at the lockers.Â
âLooks like Jannie knocked some sense into him. Hot damn!â Remus leered, earning a smack on the shoulder from Virgil and Roman.Â
âGuys, I am fine. I promise. I wanted to see how my mom would take it,â Patton offers, not so subtly searching the halls.
âRight. Suuuuuuure,â Remus giggled, âjust remember that Virgie is mine,â he snaps playfully, âI donât share and I certainly donât do threesomes.â Remus winked, sending a shiver of disgust running down Pattonâs spine. âCongrats, baby emo.â
âIf you need to talk or something,â Virgil managed to offer before getting swept away by Remus.
Roman sighed, âSeriously, do you want to talk?â
âIâll be fine, Ro. Iâm still me. I just... I donât know. It felt right this morning,â Patton offers as explanation.
âWell, you know where to find me. And if this is some ploy to get Janus to like you- it wonât work-âÂ
âI donât care if he likes me,â Patton protests, âthis isnât about him.â
âItâs not?â Janus asked in a smooth voice, standing behind Patton as if he appeared there from thin air.
âJanus!â Patton whipped around, âhow- when did you- um, hi.â he stammered.
Roman laughed and clapped Patton on the shoulder, âgood luck, Romeo. See you at lunch.â He walked away still laughing as Patton blushed and tried to shake the teasing off.
Janus watched curiously. He certainly would never have predicted that Patton would show up in an all black pretend-emo costume. Amazing really how people could still surprise him.Â
âI promise that Roman doesnât know what heâs talking about-â Patton tried to recover his composure.
âHe never does. Poor Remus got all the interesting and useful brains,â Janus sighed, examining his gloved hand nonchalantly. âEven if this were some ploy for my attention, I wouldnât be interested just because you changed clothes and painted your nails.â
âThat implies you would be interested in different circumstances,â Patton pointed out.
âWould I? I never said that. You understood my message, right?â Janus asked, changing topics quickly.
Patton nodded, âI- yes, I understood. You didnât have to threaten me. Everyone thinks I broke my head and wouldnât believe me saying either thing.âÂ
âCorrect. No use spreading rumors,â Janus smirked.
âJanus?âÂ
âWhat?âÂ
âDo you think Iâm a bad person?â Patton asked quietly.
Janus took a moment to think over the question, âWhy are you asking me?â
âBecause I think youâre probably the person Iâve hurt the most.â
Janus laughed, âOh please. Like you could hurt me. Since when do you care about my opinions?â
âI donât know- Iâm really trying something new here, Janus.â Patton worried his lip between his teeth.Â
âI see. I notice,â Janus nodded and turned to head towards class.
âJanus? Do I⊠seem like I have a crush on you?â
Janus stopped in his tracks, turning back slowly, âDo you have one?â
Patton shrugged his one good shoulder, âRoman says I must have one. Iâm not sure. How do I figure it out?â
Janus studied the black clad teen he would have sworn had it out for him just two days ago. Who was he to answer this kind of question? And why wouldnât he just ask Roman, the prince of failed relationships?
âI donât know. Go on a date with me?â Janus was just as surprised at the words leaving his lips as Patton looked hearing them.
âWait- really?â
âYes. We can go out tonight. No need to make it formal. Just black, not black tie.â Janus nodded. It surprised him just how calm and collected he felt, proposing a romantic time together.Â
Patton hummed, âum.. I assume Virgil⊠gave you my address,â he replied diplomatically, âwould you be able to pick me up.â
âYes. 9 oâclock?â
Patton nodded, âyeah, that works. Iâll see you then?â
Janus smiled just a bit mischievously, âyes, you will. Good luck in school today. Everyone is going to notice.â
âNotice what?â Patton asked.
âThis.â Janus smirked and leaned forward, planting a lipstick stained kiss on Pattonâs cheek, turning to leave just as the first bell rang out.Â
Patton stood frozen like a deer, slowing reaching up to touch his cheek, âoh, shit-â
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âUh, Jannie?â
âYes, Remus?â
âWhere the fuck are we going?â Remus asked, hanging on the back of Janusâ seat.
Janus inhaled slowly, âWeâre picking up my date for tonight.â
âSince when do you date?â Virgil asked, lounging in the back seat and scrolling on his phone.
âSince this morning,â Janus answered, âYou two just made it look so fun I had to give it a try.â
âOoooooooh,â Remus absolutely beamed, âso whoâs the lucky virgin?â
âCome on, Re. Donât assume,â Virgil chided, trying to pull his boyfriend back to the back seat. âWait- I recognize this street-â
âJust shut up,â Janus growled, âYouâre the ones who wanted me to date. Heâs harmless and might even like me.â
âSo youâre trying to go out with the guy who made our lives hell for over a year?â Virgil asked.
âIâm not being some sort of saint, Iâm just curious about what Pattonâs going through.â
âIâll cancel the wedding bells,â Remus cackled as they pulled up to the door. The headlights swept over the porch, revealing Patton sitting outside in the dark. He popped up, rushing over to the passenger side of the car.
âHey Janus- and⊠Virgil and Remus? What?â Patton squinted at the couple in the back seat, âis this.. A double date?â
âSomewhat. Get in,â Janus commanded, ignoring the snickering from the back seat.Â
Patton climbed in and sat down, confused but not about to back out now. Not when Roman would roast him for failing to go on the first date heâs ever been asked out on. Janus pulled out of the driveway and continued on in relative quiet.
âSo⊠where are we going?â Patton asked, a little too bright for his dark exterior.Â
âYouâll see,â Janus replied cryptically.
Patton nodded and fell silent, watching the road slip by as they drove along.
âWoof. The chemistry is just bubbling,â Remus snarked after a few minutes of quiet, sitting back to cuddle into Virgil.
Virgil laughed softly, âgive them time. Iâm sure itâs just first date awkwardness.â He wrapped his arms around Remus and held him close.
Janus turned down a residential street and flicked off the headlights, âWell, Patton, since youâre exploring new countercultures, I figured it would be a good idea to bring you along to a protest.â
âA protest? At night?â Patton asked, fear glinting in his eyes, âwhat kind of protest?â
âOne against ableism in the education system,â Virgil grinned, grabbing cartons of eggs from the floor of the back seat.
âYeah! Weâre gonna show that bitch what it feels like!â Remus crowed, opening the door before Janus could put the car in park and banging impatiently on the trunk. Virgil piled out as well as Janus parked and grabbed the latch to open the trunk for them.Â
âThis⊠is illegal, isnât it?â Patton worried, glancing around the street to see if they had been spotted yet.
âVery.â Janus nodded, âbut, lucky us that the Virus have the dirty work covered. Weâre just lookouts tonight. Mrs. Hansen has been violating my disability accommodations. That makes my life harder when I end up missing the beginning of class because of the crowds in the hallway. So weâre making her morning a bit harder.â
âOh.. thatâs why you three were in the hallway during class time the other day?â Patton asked, voice softening at the realization.
âYes. Sometimes we wait until after the bell anyway but she still shouldnât be holding me back like that,â Janus explained.
âIâm sorry- I didnât realize that,â Patton offered quietly, wincing as Remus started chucking raw eggs at the car in the driveway.
âRelax, Patton. Theyâre just letting off steam. I swear they would have burned the school down by now if I didnât try to aim them at productive activities,â Janus chuckled, glancing down the road for any observers.
âRight. So⊠this is a date⊠why donât you tell me about yourself?â Patton turned in his seat to face Janus.Â
Janus slowly turned his head, âwhat do you want to know?â
âUm, Iâm not sure. Iâve never done this before,â Patton laughed nervously, âmaybe⊠when did you know that youâre gay?â
Janus snorted at that, âI still donât know. Youâre the first boy Iâve tried to date. Youâd think hanging out around the twins would make that sort of question easy, right?â
âRight! Like, Iâve known Roman really well for years and he sure seems to know⊠some of what he wants. But I just donât know how he understands what a crush is versus wanting to be friends.â
âThose two make it seem like you meet someone and suddenly theyâre the only thought in your head ever,â Janus nodded to the couple who were busy laying out toilet paper strips in the shape of a penis on the hood of the car, âIâve never understood it.âÂ
âDo you.. Feel that way about me?â Patton asks, âsince youâre the one who asked me out.â
âFrankly, I find your change of aesthetic rather intriguing. And you seem willing to challenge some of your bullshit ideas right now, so why not?â Janus shrugs, âmaybe I just want attention and donât give a fuck about who you are. You can never know.â
Patton looked down towards his hands, folded neatly in his lap, âI think Iâve been jealous of you all.â
âHow so? You seemed adamant about reporting us to the school like a narc for the past year,â Janus challenged.
âBecause things like egging teacherâs houses and smoking in the hallways can cause problems for people! But, I do like how you all express yourselves.â
âReally?â
âRight. You just⊠get to be weird and stand out in classes. You get away with a disturbing amount of rule breaking. It seems really freeing,â Patton sighed softly, âMaybe Iâm thinking about it wrong. Iâve just always felt terrified of disappointing people, and in just one day Iâve been able to disappoint almost everyone.â
âSo, youâre just dressing emo to make people upset, not to express yourself?â
âI mean- maybe partially?â Patton shrugged, âI never knew you all were this criminal-â
âPatton-â
âAnd⊠I think itâs maybe hot that you all stand up for yourselves despite what people think of you?â Patton says shyly, more of a question than an opinion.
âI didnât bring you along to impress you with like that-â
âNo?â
âI thought giving Virgil and Remus a target would give us some time alone,â Janus explains.
âTime alone to do what?â Panton leaned a bit closer.
âWhat weâre doing now, talking.â
âThatâs all you wanted to do with me?â Patton asked, head tilted a bit.
âDid you want to kiss me?âÂ
âPatton-â
Patton leaned in even closer until the backdoor slammed open, sending him scrambling back to his seat, blushing bright red.
âDrive- Neighbor might be calling the cops.â Remus replied, out of breath.
Virgil nodded and Janus jumped into action to get away from the crime scene.Â
âLooked like a productive date,â Remus teased as Janus slowed back down to avoid suspicion.
âWow what a rush!â Patton exclaimed.Â
âAdrenaline wasnât the point,â Janus reminded him, âAre you two ready to head home?â
âYeah, Remusâ please,â Virgil nods.
Remus spent the car ride back to his place giving the lookouts a play by play of the night, with Virgil interjecting with certain facts and figures.. Janus soon dropped the pair off and the silence settled between him and Patton.Â
âI just⊠you guys get away with bad behavior all the time. I wish I could do that the same as you,â Patton spoke up eventually.
Janus sighed and pulled the car over again, this time near a park, âDo you even care about why we do that stupid shit?â
âWell, tonight was about getting back at Mrs. Hansen, right? For treating you badly,â Patton recalled.
âAnd skipping class is because itâs too overwhelming to sit still learning useless crap with a bunch of jerks who know nothing about what itâs like to try and navigate when your feet donât just take you to where you need to go. They donât care that it hurts to walk and itâs just safer to take my time with friends by my side to catch me.â
âI-â
âYou just see me as some bad boy to upset people with. You donât care how I feel about it, do you?â Janus challenged.
âThatâs not true-â Patton tried to protest.Â
âIâm not some average petty sinner to disappoint your family with at the holidays. I actually have feeling and wants and needs and I just- I-â
Patton reached over to take one of Janusâ hands, âItâs okay. I-I didnât want to use you, Janus. Not in the long run. Sure, I wanted to experiment and see if Romanâs right about crushes, but I donât want to trap you in a relationship you wonât enjoy. I donât want to hurt you.â
Janus looked away, trying to pull his hand free.
âJust remember that you asked me out tonight. So, I thought that kisses were something youâre supposed to do on dates. Can we try again without interruptions this time? See if⊠well, if weâll like that sort of thing?â
âAre you even listening to me?â
âYes, yes I am. You are not a manic pixie dream boy or the dangerous rebel to scare my mom with. Youâre Janus. And I donât know you very well because Iâve never tried to get to know you. But weâre on a date. Itâs past curfew. I think you at least deserve a chance at something properly romantic, since defacing property was just the distraction to keep Remus and Virgil busy. Itâs too late to get food anywhere. So maybe we can try a kiss and start over again in the morning?â
Janus blinked, trying to process all of that at once. âUm⊠no.â
âNo?â Patton sat back immediately, âdid I do something wrong?â
âNot necessarily, I just⊠you asking makes it very clear to me that I donât want to kiss you, Patton.â Janus tried to explain.
Patton nodded, âokay. I- actually, thank you? I- I was so scaredâŠâ
Janus chuckled softly, âI donât think weâre crushing on each other. Iâm not sure why not. But Iâm glad you agree.âÂ
Patton nodded emphatically this time, âI very much donât want to be the awkward one. I think⊠it would feel wrong or empty to try. And thatâs not your fault-â
âI get it. I agree. We tried. Dating just⊠isnât in our cards,â Janus laughed a bit more at that, âlet me take you home?â
âYes please. Maybe at school⊠we can just say hi?â
âThat would be much more pleasant.â
Patton sighed softly and leaned back in the passenger seat, âI wonât tell about the eggs and toilet paper, by the way. Maybe I should ask Mrs. Hansen why sheâs not letting you leave for class on time?â
Janus smiled, âThat could be helpful. Maybe she just needs to see one of the responsible students concerned on our behalf.â
âWould have been a lot less illegal if you just asked me to do that in the first place,â Patton giggled, âIt makes more sense than vandalism.â
âBut throwing trash at her house is fun,â Janus grins, starting the car again.
âIt may be fun. But there are much better outlets for the anger, I would think.â Patton grinned.
âMaybe youâll be a good acquaintance after all,â Janus mused, pulling back out onto the road to take his definitely-not-a-date back home.
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Sanders Sides Askpalace: Recap 1
The sides introduce the blog and give a warm welcome.
The first ask is how everyone is doing. Virgil is nervous about how the ask blog will do. Roman is feeling glittery. Patton is doing fantastic. Remus ate a spoon. Janus is doing as well as he can. Logan is doing well.
Someone asks who can do a flip. Patton can flip a coin. Remus can do a flip and says he'll do it off the second floor. Virgil stops. Virgil will not do a flip either. Janus totally did a flip. Roman is confused but he can do a flip too. Logan only flips book pages.
Another asker brings up the possibilities of variants and universes. Logan is interested and want to meet them or at least see how many are there. Patton is excited at the thought of more kiddos and dads. Virgil hates that it means there's more Janus-es. Remus loves that there's more Janus-es. Before he says anything though, Janus cuts him off. Janus does not want to deal with multiple copies of the sides. Virgil agrees that one Remus is enough. Roman is excited at the thought of multiples of him, saying that's a lot of handsome and muscle. Virgil says Roman wouldn't be special. Roman is flattered that Virgil thinks he's special. Virgil moves onto the next question.
An anon who calls themselves "sugar anon" gives the boys some treats. Roman, Remus, and Patton gobble up as many as he can. Virgil, Janus, and Logan brace themselves for a long day and take some candy from the pile.
The sugar rush starts. Janus and Virgil try to wrangle the twins. Janus gets bit by Remus. Logan is back thinking about the variants again and what could be out there.
Virgil has Logan sitting down and helps him calm down, assuring him he's not missing out on anything and suggesting he test substances from Remus' realm. Janus brings Remus back and Remus admits he felt sick. Patton and Roman also have tummy aches.
Someone suggests to get Remy but Virgil declines, saying they'll be out soon. Patton asks why candy makes his tummy hurt. Logan says it's because he ate a lot. Roman says Virgil's spaghetti would never hurt him. Remus wants spaghetti. Janus laments about the fact that they can't have nice things. He then sneakily eats a piece of candy.
Someone else calls Virgil out on his flirting with Roman. Virgil denies that he was flirting. Roman's tummy still hurts and he's oblivious. Janus says he's tortured. Remus says he has it worse since Virgil is trying to get with HIS brother.
Someone suggests ginger and Janus goes to prepare it. The candy fiends asks for tummy rubs. Remus doesn't get tummy rubs because Janus is busy.
Soon Janus returns with tea. Roman and Remus mention doing pranks and stealing from Janus. Janus hears them but gives them tea anyways, telling them not to say he doesn't do nice things for him. Patton's just happy to have tea.
Someone else suggests a nap for the candy fiends. Janus assures that they'll be asleep soon. Virgil asks if there's something in the tea. Janus says there isn't and that he would never hurt the twins as well as that it takes a lot to sedate Remus. Virgil hates that he's partially right. Janus, Virgil, and Logan also have a piece of candy while the other three doze off.
The variant anon shares a rumor of what they've seen in the other universes. Such as a dark universe. They tell the boys to consider themselves lucky and that there are even rumors of a seventh side. Logan is intrigued but has never heard of a seventh side. Virgil is fine with six sides. Janus teases about a less edgy Virgil. Virgil refuses to be less edgy.
Someone says they look cute and cozy. Virgil says he's only making sure Roman onto the floor. He refuses to cuddle with Remus and Janus. Janus is making sure Remus stays settled down. Logan doesn't want to move or he'll upset Patton. No one is able to move while they're being cuddled. Virgil and Logan decide to hang out. Janus plans to clean and hoard candy once he's free from Remus.
Virgil, Logan, and Janus talk about their favorite sweets. Janus mentions apples and that there's a special apple he loves but can't get often. Janus starts acting weird and excuses himself to do some cleaning.
Virgil is asked about Janus' connection to apples. Virgil says Janus wouldn't tell him when he asked. He explains how Janus gets quiet when seeing a certain apple and the time he got angry at Patton for slicing what seemed to be a very golden delicious apple. Janus also refused to have a slice that day. Janus broods from the kitchen and listens as Virgil and Logan wonder where these apples came from.
Someone asks about their least favorite side. Janus and Virgil joke that their least favorite side. Though Janus thinks it's someone else for him. Logan says he could never hate any of the sides.
Someone asks about Janus and Virgil being on a deserted island. Virgil says Janus is resourceful but that he thinks he and Janus would kill each other sooner than later. Janus thinks he'll get sick of bugs and fish. Logan gets a chance to ramble about space.
Janus is asked what his favorite type of apple. Janus talks about green apples and golden delicious apples. His favorite apple is something different though and that it's rare, saying one should cherish it. Logan and Virgil talk about their favorite fruit and veggie.
Logan, Virgil, and Janus talk about meeting the shorts' characters. They've heard about it. They've met Remy and Roman likes him. Virgil considers Andy but doesn't want to give Thomas more anxiety. Logan has heard of a teacher character but questions his method.
The candy fiends wake up and Virgil catches them up on the last few questions.
Checking in on how everyone's feeling. Everyone feels better. Logan reminds Patton not to eat too much candy. Patton calls Logan smart and Logan blushes. Remus does not like them being sappy but he doesn't feel sick anymore. He wants to do something. He gets confused when Janus barely answers. Virgil tells Remus about the apple question. Roman is told about how Janus gets weird about apples.
The twins are asked about what they know with Janus and apples. Neither know anything apart from Janus going to the Imagination to get these apples. Roman has sensed Janus entering the Imagination but never saw him. Virgil says they should drop it as Janus looks uncomfortable. Logan is concerned.
Someone tries to guess the apple. Janus mentions that it was based on said apple while accidentally mentioning a 'he' in his answer. Janus then requests to change the subject. Roman is also concerned.
The sides talk about what they do at the end of the day. They hang out and bother each other or do things together like reading and gossiping. Janus and Roman like doing face masks.
Another apple question about the phrase 'apple of his eye' which Roman finds romantic. Remus hates that they're sappy again. Janus really doesn't want to talk about apples again.
The sides talk about who has the better music taste. No one comes out on top. They all have their own tastes.
The sides talk about what they do when not filming with Thomas. They just hang out in Thomas' head and do their own thing like working or scheming. Some visit each other and some see Thomas.
The sides talk about their favorite musicals and songs from it. It's followed by an asks about what their DND characters would be like from shapeshifting to orcs to paladins to magic users and alchemists.
Roman talks about his adventures such as getting lavender to make tea for Virgil or fighting the dragon witch. Or wrangling Remus' gremlins up. Roman then talks about the ravine separating his and Remus' side, not knowing where it came from. Someone asks Patton and Janus about the ravine. Patton knows as much as the twins. Janus knows more and he knows Patton knows more too. He's hesitant to tell the twins. When Roman begs, Patton interrupts and redirects the conversation. Roman is still curious.
The sides talk about their childhood. Janus says Remus was mischievous. Remus is proud and calls Virgil out for being a coward. Virgil calls Remus out for being afraid of thunder and hiding under the bed. Patton and Logan talk about how cute Logan was and how smart he still is. Roman admits he can't remember his own childhood. That it's a big blurry blank when he tries to think. There's barely any memories. before him waking up in the light side. Janus is watching Patton. Patton feels...guilty and doesn't know why.
Janus lets it slip that the ravine is connected to the twins. The twins didn't directly create it. Janus refuses to tell the twins for now within his own reasons. The ravine closing is a good thing though.
Someone suggests the twins to explore the ravine without telling Janus or Patton. Remus wants to go. Roman is tempted but worries about falling in or Remus jumping in.
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watching the newest tss sketch and writing my thoughts as we go
SPOILERS FOR THE NEWEST SKETCH BELOW THE CUT
first off once again they are killing it
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE LOGAN WEARS WHITE SHOES
the glasses editing thing where they like. flash? idk how to describe it but yk what i mean. that is so fucking real
VIRGILâS SEGMENT >>>
oh the prinxiety, logicality, and demus shippers are eating this up
ARE THEY PLAYING DDR???????? THAYS WHAT IM CHOOSING TO BELIEVE THEYRE DOING
logan (AGAIN) reading murder of roger ackroyd. does he ever get tired of reading it
atp i think itâs just blank pages
virgil petting his spider <3
THOMAS FUCK OFF TEASING US WITH ORANGE /LH
FUCK
CONFIRMING VIRGIL IS NEITHER LIGHT NOR DARK THAT SHIT FEELS GOOD
ofc itâs logan we have to shoehorn jam into it
the sour green apples (that thomas hates)
TJE END HELP
PATTONâS BOWL BEING ON FIRE IS SO IN CHARACTER
THEM STARGAZING IS SOMWTBING I DIDNT KNOW I NEEDED
okay i am done here are my final thoughts: truly very silly. i quite enjoyed. also if anyone knows how to read kanji someone should translate it. thank you bye mwah <3
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Me using the sides to vaguepost about my problems:
Thomas stands in front of the couch, his posture slumped.
âYou said this wouldnât happen!â Virgil yells at Logan. âWe worked out the likelihood of different outcomes and you said this one was the least likely!â
Logan looks stunned, frozen. âIt was least likely. Thereâs no way this should have happened. Itâs logically impossible.â
Patton crumples, his eyes red from crying. âIt couldâve been⊠we thoughtâŠâ
Janus rises up, trying to help hold up Patton. âThomas, itâll be ok. As⊠brutal as the end of this chapter of your life has been, weâre now on the beginning page of the new chapter. We can put this behind us. Focus on the future.â
âThe future?â Remus says, grinning maniacally. âYou mean the future in which theyâre plunged into pain and torture?â
Patton sobs, and Virgil hisses furiously at Remus.
âI hate to agree with the snake,â Roman says quietly. âBut itâs actually possible that theyâre relieved about it being over now too. I mean, itâs been months! Even with this outcome, everyone is⊠getting a break.â
Thomas breathes in slowly, his breath hitching. He struggles to blow the breath out. âI donât know what weâre gonna do, guys. But for now.â He opens his arms, tears in the corners of his eyes. âCome here. I think we could all use a hug. Even you, Remus.â
Virgil is the most reluctant, but gradually they all gather together. And just hold each other. They arenât falling apart. Not just yet.
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Sanders Sides:
All In The Details! (2023/24)
Remus Disturbing Frame in DWIT + Filming for Incorrect Quotes 3!
Patton Frames Editorial Birthday Shoot (2024)
Janus Is Cold Blooded Confirmed
If Wes Anderson Directed Sanders Sides Details Part 1
If Wes Anderson Directed Sanders Sides Details Part 2
My Quotes (Incorrect Quotes Vol 3)
Loganâs Lip Bite (Crofters The Musical)
Janus Calling Logan Sweetie (Inside Out 2 reaction)
Theatre Adult/Romanâs Spot (10 Misconceptions About Me)
The Sushi Slip Up (DWIT)
Valerie as The Sides (Making Some Changes)
Twinning (Ro & Re Hand On Chest Looking Sad)
C!Thomas laughing reaction image (ROTB)
Rise of The Bloop Pics
Did Roman Regift His Nerd Socks
Thoughts On What Makes The Perfect Gift Part 1
Thoughts On What Makes The Perfect Gift Part 2
Sides Sweatshirt Design Easter Eggs
Orange Side Tease Thumbnail SvS Redux
Real/Fake Food Anime Detail (Delicious in Dungeon)
SvS Redux Lily Padton/He-Man Comparsion
The Bagel Joke Needs A 3rd (AOVD/SVS:R)
Janus Calling Patton âHoneyâ SvS Redux
LilyPadton/Stardew Inventory SvS Redux Easter Eggs Part 1
LilyPadton/Stardew Inventory SvS Redux Easter Eggs Part 2
Do We Kiss Now Or⊠SVS Patton
Cartoon Therapy: Steamboat Willie Lego
2020 Livestream: Whoâs Your Fave Side To Play
April 2024 Charity Livestream Summary
Patton/Atticus Finch Comparison (SvS)
THOMAS SANDERS/SANDERS SIDES EPISODES/ANNIVERSARIES/NAME REVEAL DATES LISTS!!
5 Shot Split in ATHD
SvS Redux Pattonâs Blink-&-U-Miss-It Look at Virgilâs Spot
Virgilâs Shoe Laces (Skirt Look) Tutorial
Logan Detail from Make Assumptions About Me Vid
The Notebook/Logan Keeps Receipts Running Joke
Patton & Logan in FWSA
The âthatâs what she saidâ joke SVS
Janusâ Dramatic Lighting Throughout The Series
Bridgerton Short Janus Coat
That Time Janus Called Logan a Bitch (svs:r)
GRWM Janus Makeup Tutorial Thoughts
Food Pages Running Gag Shorts
Joan And That Activia Computer Gag (Shorts)
Roman Short Where Is The Love/Glam Makeup/Deserves a Proper GRWM
TTH The Box Poses
Loganâs Skirt Reshoot Thoughts
Roman Hates Mustaches (SVS REDUX)
Remus Drops A Hint (HAVE I GROWN)
Remus Sitting Comparison (WES ANDERSON SIDES)
Remus and His Cockroaches (WORKING THRU INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS)
Loganâs Onesie Has Wings?! (INCORRECT QUOTES 4)
Romanâs Editorial Look Makeup Question Answered
Thomas Giggling While Singing Oh Yeah (IQ4)
Pattonâs Dad Moment âCalm Down Timeâ (LNTAO)
Friendship Bracelets For Patton (CAN PLUSHIES IMPROVE OUR HEALTH)
Daddy (LNTAO; RISE OF THE BLOOPS)
The Different Offices Of Emile Picani
Logan Copying Romanâs Mannerisms To Be Dramatic (MOVING ON; DWIT)
Virgil Reacts To Inside Out 2 PART 1
Virgil Reacts To Inside Out 2 PART 2
What Roman Says About Virgil (VIRGIL REACTS)
Sleep Is The Eyelashes Meme (WHY IS SLEEP DIFFICULT?)
Sleepâs First Appearance Easter Egg (WHY IS SLEEP DIFFICULT?)
Remus And Roman Matching/Opposite Editorial Looks
Lego Movie Batman Reference (CARTOON THERAPY 3)
The Bagel Prophecy (CARTOON THERAPY 3)
SANDERS SIDES CHRONOLOGICAL EPISODE/ANNIVERSARY LISTS
ALL SIDES THEMED PHOTOS CHART
I Am The Walrus (SANDERS SIDES QNA)
Belle Love (ROMAN DISNEY TIERS)
Janus!Pattonâs Smile (CLBG)
Janus As Scooby Doo (EMBARRASSING PHASES)
Dom Steals Romanâs Rhyming (ROMAN DISNEY TIERS)
Romanâs (and Domâs) Disney Films Tier Ranking ALL THE DETAILS!
Rom & Dom moment/possible running joke? (MIND MELD OLD VS NEW FRIENDS)
Loganâs Glasses (MY TRUE IDENTITY)
Roman & Remus Twinning Outfits reoccurances
Roman Writing With His Right (MY JOURNEY ON YOUTUBE)
Called Sleep A Bitch (Because He Is) đ (MY CHARACTERS READ YOUR TWEETS)
Transcription Of Argument Between Core 4 (the best I could make out) (RETURN OF THE JAM)
The Liar Liar Test Joke Explained (SVS)
Roman Happy With His Jam (WHATâS COMING UP EVERYBODY)
4th Anniversary & Flores/Coming Home Edit Explained (FWSA)
Romanâs Pillow Throne (ATHD)
Logan Looks Like Daredevil (NIGHTMARE BEFORE SPIRIT CHRISTMAS)
Nightmare Before Spirit Christmas Character Comparison Guide
Electric Company Head Turn Transition Cut (LNTAO)
BTS Romanâs Arm/Patton Pointing Jokes In LNTAO Raw Edit
BTS Patton Smiling In LNTAO Raw Edit
The Sides + Into The Unknown Lyrics (2nd Anniversary) (ITU)
Costume Redesign (S1 -> S2)
My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 1!
My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 2!
My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 3!
My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 4!
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Ideally, this will be the beginning of more brief, chill reviews. I still have a good amount to say about other albums, but less tinfoil hat rants about character arcs and in-depth song-by-song reviews (until the underdark by funeral diner)Â
The Jesus Lizard were around in the late 80s and early 90s and were one of the touch-and-go bands along with Slint and shellac. Most of their stuff was done with Steve Albini as well. They also did a split with nirvana, which is probably the most exposure they got.Â
They came out of the ashes of a post-punk band called Scratch Acid, where the most unique part of The Jesus Lizard was first explored: David Yow's voice. He considers himself a vocal expressionist more than a singer, which shows in chunks of scratch acid. The band is much faster and more chaotic, and lacks the angular post-hardcore guitar of the Jesus lizard. They have a discography album called the greatest gift that's got some cool tunes. Crazy Dan, cannibal, and the title track are my favourites.Â
When Duane Denison started to record and form a band, he tried to recruit David Yow on bass. Yow was smart enough to ask for the vocalist role, and brought his scratch acid band mate David Wm. Simms on for bass. Mac McNeill rounded off the band on drums after their first Ep.Â
The Jesus Lizard sound is pretty easy to define, more so than the previous bands I reviewed. Their bass tone is heavy and proto-industrial, holding a great sharp but thick shape. When I think of a Fender Jazz bass, I think of this tone. It's often driving the songs with fierce riffs, rarely becoming boring strumming behind chords.The drums are precise and methodical, comparable to Brendan Canty from Fugazi.Â
Duane's guitar work is noisy and angular, sometimes hiding on top as a texture and pivoting around the rhythm, other times smashing our face with riffs. He uses a Travis Bean guitar similar to Albini, and the tone shines here. Duane was also in a super group called tomahawk with the drummer of helmet and Mike Patton of Faith no More. Their song God Hates a Coward is fucking sick, highly recommend if you like The Jesus Lizard.Â
Then, there's David Yow's voice. Awful, howling, expressive, screaming, shrieking, moaning, grunting, ranting. An album review of goat has stated that his delivery sounds like a kidnap victim with a gagged mouth shouting from the trunk of a car.Â
Their sound (as some could infer) is perfect for the Steve Albini sound. Heavy, thick, and somehow so clear and crisp. It's the kind of music that makes you want to punch someone or two step but really heavily and slowly. Just filled with rage and badass tones, and brings forth a visceral feeling. I think it was a great transition from classic rock and stoner doom for me, maintaining a relatively dynamic-less âI think I'm coolâ tone mixed with some bite, but with much more sloppy punk attitude. Also way more emotion on average, with Yow's delivery inspiring the shit out of me to this day.Â
In a linear note for the album's tracking and recording, there's a room mic listed as being taped on Yow's forehead. I always wonder if that's what we hear in the background of monkey trick's bridge.Â
Last thing I'll say before we get more into the songs: I've written a ~50 page, 20k word novella loosely based on this album. It's mostly just based on monkey trick's ominous lyrics, with each other song shoehorned for completionist sake and to try and make it a full length novella. It's about a small town that suddenly becomes abandoned overnight, with a David Lynch esque cut up and mostly irrelevant story exploring the residents experiences. It's kind of just a bucket of short stories that felt similar in tone, dark and comedic and grimy. If I'm prompted maybe I'll edit my work and publish it (but I know I won't be)Â
The album opens in full force with Then Comes Dudley, the perfect song to showcase the band with. It kicks off with a driving mid tempo bass line and drums locked in together. The kick and snare sit right where you want them to in the bass line, and it just makes you want to stomp your feet while you walk. The guitar plays dissonant semi tones shifting around on top. It's broken by an amazingly creepy guitar at one point, then a two chord stop before the guitar drops out for a verse on top of that main riff. Halfway through that verse the guitar jumps in with delayed palm muted notes following the bass and it's so simple but so sick with the sharp Travis bean tone.Â
David Yow is talking about a despicable couple and someone who is going to fuck them up. The chorus makes no sense to me, some have suggested it's about vegetarianism. His moans and grunts in this song are sick. The chorus is the same main riff, but the first time sparkled with some sick staccato guitar chords at seemingly random off times.Â
Mouthbreather might be their most popular song besides puss from the nirvana split? At least that's what I gathered when I surfaced from my cave of obscurity to mingle with more normal human beings.Â
The guitar opens up with a sharp angular riff that just slides between C and C#, playing power chords and 4ths. It's got a bit of a weird time, with some fun stops that make it sound bouncy. The drums help the song kick ass as always, having this badass feeling. When testosterone ran through my veins and it wasn't killing me, this stuff got my blood pumping so fucking hard.Â
The lyrics are about Britt Walford from Slint. He took care of Steve Albini's house one time when he was still a teenager, and the house was in disrepair when he came back. Apparently he locked himself out and would climb in and out via an upstairs window, and pipes spilled piss and shit onto Steve's drumset. Yow's howl of âI leave my homeâ is great.Â
Nub is maybe my second least favourite song on the album? The guitar is all done with a slide, giving it a weird ZZ Top vibe. The bass line before the first chorus while Yow just seethes is my favourite part. The lyrics are partially in French and about someone losing their arm sticking it out a moving car. How's that ghost limb? Wicked.Â
Seasick is fun for Yow's vocals and hits hard as hell at first, but gets old really quickly. Palm muted open E broken by some diminished G chords, I could've written this as my first song. Yow's shouts and moans and squeals are sick, especially in the bridge. Awful that we have to sit through so many âI can't swimâs to get there. Lyrics are basic as hell but service the song well. There's a live video of them performing this where David Yow dives headfirst into the crowd the moment the drums kick in, and when he returns to the stage he gets clocked in the head by a beer bottle that shatters and collapses to the stage - but still finishes the performance.Â
Monkey Trick is âthe best song ever written in the entire history of the cosmos, ever,â according to the band, and I tend to agree. It's definitely the best song of theirs by a mile. It opens with a D sharp power chord 8 times, but the drums play a straight kick and crash for the first 4, then introduce a snare-kick-snare-snare pattern for the last four. Then the bass line starts. It rides a low C, chugging a staccato off beat rhythm, broken at the end of two bars by a climb up to F sharp. The drums kick in, a barely closed high hat on slow eight notes with a pair of kicks on 1 and 3, and a kick-snare on 2 and 4. Itâs a quite simple blues beat behind an otherwise off kilter bass, something I personally would have never come up with. Simple, powerful, elegant. The guitar glides on top with two semitones, one pair a slide and the other two ringing out in dissonance together. The hook introduces a single note line on the guitar with sharp two note stops, while the bass and drums hold a similar position as the verses. David Yow merely speaks over this before the two note chords repeat and swell back to the D sharp chords from the beginning, accompanied with a shrill shriek from Yow. That shriek was the moment my heart began to crave OLTH without knowing it.Â
The verse is the same opening bass riff, but the guitars clang in with some dissonant chords before playing the paired semitones. Yow howls the same line twice, ending the second repeat with a shriek. We get another spoken hook with a different vocal pattern that will be mirrored in the final hook. He whines and howls his way through the end of these hooks in confusion.Â
Verse two hits us with the bassline and Yow mumbling at us uneasily and violently. This erupts into some wide guitar chords and a more flowy open passage with more spoken word that is unevenly doubled, creating more confusion. It ends with a whispered âhereâ Sucking the open chords back in, hitting us with that bassline and dual semitones again. Believe it or not, we're not sick of that rhythm. It still rocks and begs us to let rage boil our circulatory system.Â
AN ABSURD GAG, A MONKEY TRICK. AN IRISH BULL, A CHILDISH JOKEÂ
The words are spit at us violently, the joke shrieked, and out from behind it Duane's guitar plays a high face melting lead akin to black metal tremolo picking but with two notes fighting for extra dissonance. The drums and bass lock in adding extra volume and flair behind the leads.
This cuts to a single guitar chord played on off eighth notes with violent upstrokes while Yow screams in pain over and over again. Ow, ow, OWW!! the drums play solid eighth note kicks and quarter note crashes and lock in on 2 and 4 with the snare to center us. Once in a while Yow gets quieter and lower, then awakens with more pain. The guitar does two quick full tone slides to break it up at one point. Sick.Â
Final chorus, body parts all in over this town, what are they doing!Â
The lyrics? I have no fucking clue. Or 50 pages worth of clues, I don't know. Read them yourself and determine a whole new 50 pages worth of meaning. You tell me what they're doing.Â
Karpis is a prison r*pe joke played very strangely. A carton of smokes for ten minutes of pleasure, if I cannot have you nobody will. Feel that there? I shaved my ass. Come here boy. Not sure what's going on, is the joke that Alvin's paying the smokes to GET fucked? I think it's just an excuse for Yow to scream Nooo again and again while they get to be edgy and laugh. The guitar line of the verse is fun to play, and the choruses are pretty heavy. The bridge is a weird time, something rare for them.Â
South mouth kinda just sucks honestly. The main riff is fun and bouncy but not in the âI'll kick your assâ tone the rest of the album has. âhey sometimes we act like animals, and we act sometimes like little girlsâ I like the little bridge at the end where he kinda mumbles âhey sometimesâ on some colorful guitar chords.Â
Lady shoes was both the worst and best part of the novella to write. Lyrically it's about a messed up dream Yow had. A girl plays a piano while her mother gives her an enema. Then the dad comes in and does what everyone seems to do in this song, masturbate. Meanwhile, a nurse in a maternity ward kills all the babies with a big fucking sledgehammer. She shouts at the doctor âlook what I've doneâ the doctor jerks off in his cap. Then a hotel manager comes by and takes a shit in his hand and puts it on like lipstick. Hope this helps.Â
Instrumentally it's actually pretty interesting. A very surfy low E tremolo picked, with seemingly random changes to an F sharp and G that catch you off guard. When Yow does vocals on it he's real obnoxious and loud and muffled. It's broken on one end with big power chords strummed for half notes with Yow speaking. On the other side it's broken by some weird angular leads with the maternity ward stuff and some cool bass.Â
Rodeo in Joliet is my second favourite song on this, but only because it barely belongs. The almost ALMOST clean sounding arpeggios on the first two riffs are so colourful and interesting, in an odd 6/4 we haven't heard this album. Hard to avoid using the word angular, goddamn. The drums do really engaging stuff too, avoiding snare for the first half of progression one then throwing in off kilter snares for the second half. Progression two locks in much more with a high hat and two distinct chords, with less strings ringing out all at once. This breaks into some strummed chords that upstroke closed with the snare on 4 of the 6/4 meter. Yow does his thing, which is quite fun on this song. Especially when it leads to him screaming âthe gray!â when the chords break into distorted single note arpeggios rather than ringing out picked chords. Some other really weird stuff happens especially near the end that make a determinable layout harder to picture. End scene.Â
Sick album. Lyrically and thematically shallow compared to the previous reviews, and the instrumentation is much less dynamic, but still fun and emotional - just in a less introspective way. It's on repeat way less for me, especially with estrogen making anger less appealing. I love the angular, sharp tones and punctual rhythms, and still love to digest a taste of this tone when mixed in with more joliet-esque low chill chord sections. Ultimately, it was the third of four albums that really helped me get into newer genres and made me approach music in a vastly different way.Â
The old windbag blows
#the jesus lizard#jesus lizard#post hardcore#post punk#punk#noise rock#steve albini#Slint#Aud reviews
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"You don't think so? Just confused? Well... I would've given him enough reason to hate me, won't I? Considering from the moment I met him I was a complete asshole to him and treated him like shit... I won't blame him for hating me. And, well, I hate Virgil too so I'm glad we're on the same page." Remus huffed, and then he went quiet for a moment.
"... I don't know why... But Patton... There's something...different about this hybrid... When it comes to Janus, I could punch him, I could treat him like dirt, and I never felt a single thing... But Patton... Whenever I think about treating him the same way... I feel...bad? Sad? I feel something and I stop it... But why? Why do I feel that way towards a damn hybrid, of all people!" Remus grumbled, "Emotions are fucking annoying..."
Patton knocked desperately at the strangers door, praying someone, anyone was home. His heart beat as fast and loud as the rain thundering against the sidewalk. He was sure he was being followed, they were going to catch him. They were going to drag him back. He wasn't sure if whoever lived here might be worse, but he was willing to risk it at this point. Anything to escape.
{@moralpuppylover2}
Janus didn't know who would be at the door. It was late, but his master won't surely be home at this time. He normally doesn't get home until the sun starts to come up.
So, as the dog hybrid walked up to the door and opened it, he wondered who it could be. And if he should open it at all... Who knows, he may get in trouble with his master for opening the door. But, his curiosity was getting the better of him-
He stopped when he saw the soaking wet cat standing at the doorway. He could tell that this cat needed help almost immediately. Well, if his poor state of clothes were anything to go by. His eyes flickered up and down the sidewalk before he grabbed pattons arm and pulled him inside.
"are you alright?" Janus nervously asked as he grabbed a towel from the mud room. "Well, that's a stupid question, of course you're not alright! Are you...running away from your owners?" As Janus walked, the collar around his neck would jingle loudly. And even though it was cold outside and even in the house, he only had a pair of boxers on. Because of that, Patton would be able to see the numerous large scars that covered his body...and the countless amounts of fresh bruises.
@moralpuppylover2
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i strongly believe that patton sanders, fans of patton sanders, and the general attitude towards patton sanders says A LOT about modern fandom âcultureâ and how toxic and uncreative it is becoming.
just to preface this post is absolutely no hate to thomas sanders. heâs an amazing creator and he canât control how his fans interpret his work. moving right along!
in many fandoms, there are archetypes (typical roles that characters in media play), and there is nothing wrong with an archetype until the fandom prioritizes archetypes over characterization. a surface level example would be something like âprince charming from cinderella is a kind, sensitive man who doesnât have the most common sense, but heâs got a big heart and a lot of love to share. but instead of creating fan work or headcanons or âkinningâ that character with/because of those traits, the fandom just sees him as the one who saves cinderella. the savior. and thatâs it.â
the big, number one archetype that modern fandoms have developed is âthe uwu, smol, soft bean who is so innocent and can do no wrong.â an amplified and much more annoying version of the professional term âingenueâ. an ingenue (or ingenu) is a character in media who is very young and innocent, and tends to make big mistakes as a result of their youth and innocence. romeo and juliet are ingĂ©nus. anne shirley cuthburt is an ingĂ©nue. i like to argue that roman sanders is an ingenu but thatâs a story for another time.
the difference between the âsmol soft beanâ and the ingenue is that it is clearly established in media that the ingenues are in the wrong, and despite their youth and innocence, their mistakes are present, front and center, and it is obvious to all that theyâre in the wrong. of course, it isnât always black and white. ingenues have been coerced by outside forces, or theyâve had turbulent pasts that have caused them to not know any better, but it is generally understood that these things are explanations. not excuses.
when fans talk about their âsmol soft beansâ, there is generally an attitude of superiority when it comes to them. âno no, thatâs my wittle cinnamon role, they could never be a bully/abuser! theyâre so clearly innocent and sweet!â when that character has indeed said and done awful things to others repeatedly. âmy smol soft bean is always the victim and everyone else is always mean to them!â when that character clearly is not always the victim and is being mistreated by other characters as a form of retaliation or breach of trust. oftentimes, the modern fandomâs perception of a character overrides the actual actions of the character in the canon and i will explain why thatâs problematic in the next paragraph.
this worlds generation has a huge, giant, collective victim complex. but itâs only natural. thatâs just what happens when people go on the internet and see all of these âsmol soft beansâ being protected and adored, and their mistakes are being ignored. everybody wants that. deep down, everybody wants their mistakes to be erased, and for only the very best parts of them to be on display at all times. so they infantilize themselves, trying to make themselves act and look sweet and innocent and cute, so that way, they can never admit to being wrong. itâs a very imitatable behavior. one that people can emulate easily. and people do.
by now, you all may be like âbut ez, what does this have to do with patton?â well, everything. patton is generally seen as the âsmol soft beanâ archetype in the sanders sides fandom, even though he has done an array of terrible things. here are just a few:
- he regularly ignores and teases logan, endlessly taunting the one singular vocabulary mistake logan made because he thinks itâs funny to make logan look stupid when intelligence is his entire livelihood.
- he guilt trips roman relentlessly and coerced him into making a huge mistake (choosing the wedding), and then when they all faced the consequences of romanâs mistake, patton distanced himself from it, and pretended like it was all romanâs fault that it even happened.
- he was one of remusâ biggest haters, insisting constantly on pressing him down and pretending he doesnât exist. while all the sides essentially were remus haters (except eventually logan), patton was clearly the most prominent one.
- he infantilized virgil, even when virgil told him he was uncomfortable. he gave a false apology that he didnât actually act upon, and he made virgil feel small.
again, thatâs only a few, but those are some of the biggest ones. oftentimes, the fandom just IGNORES that these things ever happened, or gloss over them, even though theyâre some of the most important lessons in the entire sanders sides storyline. people refuse to acknowledge such important truths because they want patton to be a âsmol soft bean who does no wrong and is so innocentâ.
and patton kinnies tend to take it a whole new level because theyâre seeing this character that is being infantilized and reduced to nothing but the sweetest little gumdrop and deciding âi want to be that.â so they say that they kin patton without accepting the mistakes heâs made, or his controlling and abusive tendencies. they want to distance themselves from his mistakes, but capitalize on his innocence, which is an unhealthy way to look at things.
everyone makes mistakes. everyone is in the wrong. nobody is perfectly innocent.
and thatâs why i hate patton sanders, the fandomâs attitude towards patton sanders, and pretty much all patton kinnies (unless theyâre open about the completeness of pattons character).
please donât dox me. thanks.
#sanders sides#patton stans plz donât dox me#patton sanders#patton hate page#sanders sides commentary#sanders sides fandom#fandom critique#fandom critical#fandom criticism
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An Important Psa 3
Tw: Talk About Side Hate, Fandom Negativity, Mild Negativity To The Sides!
P.s this is just my opinion respect it
Ok can't believe I have to make a third one but it's been brought to my attention there are a lot of character hate pages here on Tumblr and yes I class unsympathetic pages as hate pages as it basically is implying that you think that the character is canonically unsympathetic. Here in the Sander Sides Fandom, we are all about passion and love.
It's ok to hate or dislike a certain character but have you no shame, Thomas is on Tumblr and other social medias. To see people actively make a dedicated page to how much they hate that character from sander sides that Thomas created would crush him.
You call yourself a fan yet you viciously attack the characters that Thomas created, the unsympathetic sides must be hard enough for Thomas to avoid but seeing these hate pages would just upset him, he's put so much hard work into developing these characters and he still is doing. Hate pages are not truly a part of this fandom. If you were really part of this fandom you wouldn't be dissing the hard effort Thomas has put into developing these characters. If you want to be a true fander stop hating on Thomas's creations and maybe make a support page for your favourite character?
Criticism posts are fine as long as you don't tag them as unsympathetic. However, hate pages is a big no-no. You don't support Thomas you want to actively hate on the characters that Thomas wanted to use to inspire love not vicious aggressive hate. I've now had a look at all character hate pages apart from Remus and they are all disgusting.
Roman- Ok the Roman pages make me wanna puke not only do people encourage it and ask someone to make one but they actively bash on Romans character calling him a bully. Also, one page compared their own personal experience to Roman at laughing at his name. Do not relate that to real life, Thomas had no intention to make it like that. When Roman insults someone it's because he's lashing out. The Roman hate pages bash Roman as unsympathetic when he's not. Hmm ooo, wait yeah he's getting to the end of his arc this season. So your gonna bash Roman and ignore the fact that Thomas has been furiously working to develop his character. Sure Roman was wrong to laugh but he will feel guilty. These hate pages take part in the moral that Roman isn't allowed to have flaws.
Remus is so lucky I couldn't find a hate page.
Patton- How the heck does Patton have so many hate pages im sorry do you have a problem with a character who just wants to make everyone feel included. Yes, how he treats Logan and Roman is unfair but some hate pages wishing Patton didn't exist, wishing Patton is miserable is not ok at all. Patton is supposed to recognize innocence, are you saying Patton isn't allowed to flaws. He's morality folks hate to break it to you but he represents how we are all still learning what's right and wrong throughout or life. Why is there so much Patton hate, he's supposed to represent breaking away from the black and white views of religion. Like Roman he's being developed by Thomas, Thomas worked so hard to give Patton development in the redux and your gonna trash on it. Yes Patton was wrong in the original page but he will learn eventually.
Virgil- Now Virgil isn't my favourite but im not gonna trash on him just because he has flaws. Thomas has worked really hard to develop Virgil and is still developing. Like the other pages, the Virgil haters make some active good points but fail to see how Virgils main arc is over but he's actually getting Romans mini-arc. Yes, the days we're you all hated on Roman pre accepting anxiety. The two characters are swapping arcs, Virgil is going to learn to be nicer and accept that he isn't the only dark side that deserves acceptance. Virgil was lying in the puzzle song, he's still lost but will find his way. Virgil will get better Thomas has developed him so much and haters he will develop. Like the Roman haters, you need patience.
Logan- Pft seriously people the hate pages for Logan literally call him an emotionless robot. That is not ok like the other haters you're ignoring the why on why that certain character acts that way. Logan probably feels threatened by Roman because he didn't get the career choice he wanted for Thomas. Logan absolutely cares, he tries to help Thomas in his own unique way. Again you suggest Logan isn't allowed to have flaws. Logan is a hypocrite he represses how he fails because the others interrupted and insulted him unintentionally. He thinks being emotionless will help him not be hurt when Thomas doesn't ask for help from him. Like Roman, he's not expressing himself in a healthy which comes out in a way that can unintentionally hurt the others. Logan is at the beginning of his arc and Thomas has so much planned for Logan so patience and try to think about the time's Logan has tried to help.
Janus- Now to all those Janus hate pages I understand im mad that he clapped back and failed to understand why Roman was acting that way but I know something you don't, Janus is developing. People we hardly know Janus it's way too soon to judge him or his actions do not babify him like he has no flaws. And do not actively bash him for having flaws. Thomas has so much plans to help us get to know Janus as a character. Yea the 180 was sudden but soon we will understand Janus. Stop presuming you know Janus when you don't the character has only had the spotlight for three episodes. Patience and remember that both Janus and Roman were wrong.
In conclusion, stop spreading hate in this fandom but if you don't want to stop the hate turn it into negativity pages so Thomas knows. I shouldn't interact with these people they don't like the characters im developing.
Amen
Tagged people who id love to hear from:
@lowkey-logan @logansandersprotectionsquad @logansandersfanclub
@janus-is-an-adorable-snek-boi @janussanderscult @decietsanders
@misconceivedcapricorn @roman-sanders-appreciation-blog @royalprinceroman
@patton-deserves-the-world @pattonpattoff @pattonsandersrpblog
@virgilsandersstuff @virgilsanders @virgilappreciation
Of course the rest of you are allowed to share your thoughts too
#ts roman#roman sanders#sander sides#thomas sanders#ts janus#janus sanders#ts remus#ts logan#logan sanders#ts patton#patton sanders#ts virgil#virigl sanders#mild criticism to characters#fandom criticism#hate pages
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comic commissioned by @insanelycoolish, a scene from his logicality fic which is part of his really cool sanders sides band au you should totally check out here!
//DONT REPOST MY ART(ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONED ART)//
#pastelart#commission art#commissions#gonna add comics to my commission page!#sanders sides#thomas sanders#logicality#logan#patton#sanders sides band au#band au#this love hate relationship#tlhr
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Masterlist
Hi! Iâm womanofwords, and here is my masterlist of all my completed multi-part stories. I made this handy little list to make it easier for people to find what Iâd made, and itâs often updated (or at least, it is being updated often now that Iâm on a bit of a writing kick). So itâs best to check on it often if you want to know about the newest updates or see other stories Iâve written.
OC dossier
Tobeyâs Community Service (COMPLETE)
Synopsis: as penance for the many times his robots have destroyed the city, Tobeyâs community service is to teach the basics of robotics to children. (This is a WordGirl fanfic.)
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Ghost Hunters Series (COMPLETE*)
Synopsis: two boys go ghost-hunting in an abandoned, dilapidated mansion and stumble across something amazing that changes their lives. (Based on a series of artworks by @shyticklemonster and listed in reading order.)
Ghost Hunting
Ghostly Vengeance
Ghost Tricks
A Taste Of Halloween Candy
*I will add to this series if @shyticklemonster makes more artworks for me to base my writing on.
The Offer of a Lifetime (COMPLETE)
Synopsis: Hero and Sidekick stumble across a superpowered civilian and recruit them into the team. Thereâs just one problem: they donât want to.
Part 1
Part 2
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High School (COMPLETE)
Synopsis: Frustrated by their behaviour, Superhero turns Hero and Villain into teenagers and sends them to high school to learn some important life skills.
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Glitter (COMPLETE)
Synopsis: Hero has always been a guyâs guy. That is, until he gets assigned the girliest female sidekick to ever live. The worst part is, itâs beginning to rub off on him, and that could spell disaster for his image! Whatâs a guy to do?
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STEM Kids Shenanigans (COMPLETE)
Synopsis: When the principal of Marbleton Secondary School created a STEM club for the best and the brightest, she expected prestige and respectability to come to the school. When the students heard about it, they expected it to be filled with nerds.
But the four members of the club find themselves making tight friendships and awesome inventions. They also find themselves in a war with the most relentless prefect to ever be a prefect.
Chapter 1: Making STEM Club
Chapter 2: Introductions
Chapter 3: Change
Chapter 4: Spice
Chapter 5: Trinkets
Chapter 6: Parent Observation Day
Chapter 7: Study Group
Chapter 8: Subtle Messages
Chapter 9: The Unseen
Chapter 10: Day Of The Pink
Chapter 11: Connections
Chapter 12: Slime
Chapter 13: Surveillance
Chapter 14: Public Opinion
Chapter 15: Flight
Chapter 16: Front Page Fallout
Chapter 17: Paint
Chapter 18: Melanieâs Cousin
Chapter 19: Birdâs Nest
Chapter 20: A Very Grounded Young Man
Chapter 21: Adult Supervision
Chapter 22: Matching Patches
Chapter 23: Gloves
Chapter 24: Laylaâs Plants
Chapter 25: The Other Secondary School
Chapter 26: The Hated One
Chapter 27: Monitoring Melanie
Chapter 28: Feral Newspaper Hound
Chapter 29: Acting Out
Chapter 30: Bugged
Chapter 31: Checking In
Chapter 32: Stephanâs Black Book
Chapter 33: Engineered Dramatics
Chapter 34: Talking To The Sainsbury Girls
Chapter 35: Stashed Secrets Spilled
Chapter 36: Principalâs Office
Chapter 37: Celebrity and Confessions
Chapter 38: Apologies
Chapter 39: Unwanted Appearances
Chapter 40: A Proper Conclusion
The Poisoned Prodigy (COMPLETE)
Synopsis: When normal Vincent Song is invited to his best friendâs schoolâs end-of-year awards ceremony, his only real worry is whether or not his brotherâs old tux will fit him. But when said best friend, Renaissance boy Patton Reynolds, collapses at the podium after drinking some tainted water, itâs obvious that he was poisoned.
Patton names someone just before he passes out and at first, it seems like the genius solved his own murder attempt. But somethingâs not right. Itâs up to Vincent, described by his own brother as âthe lamest teenage boy in the worldâ to navigate a world of geniuses to find the true culprit and get true justice for his best friend.
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Nerd Juvie (IN PROGRESS/ON HIATUS)
Synopsis: Marco, a troubled yet gifted young man, gets sent to the Lazarus Institute after getting caught drag racing on a bike that he made himself. The Lazarus Institute is a rehabilitation centre run by Dr Bertram Lazarus especially for gifted teenagers on the wrong side of the law, and for a while, it seems like everything is looking up. But when Marco stumbles across sinister plans for the residents, he is forced to question everything. Is Dr Lazarus the benevolent man everybody believed him to be?
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Primary Objective: Friendship (IN PROGRESS)
Alexisâ life was going pretty normally until her Uncle James introduced her to Project Nikola, the robot he had made. When Nikola expresses a desire to go to school, James enrols him into the school Alexis goes to . . . and chaos ensues.
Chapter 1: Meeting Nikola
Chapter 2: School Enrolment
Chapter 3: School Shopping
Chapter 4: Nikolaâs First Day
Chapter 5: Mom v Robot
And here are the spinoffs:
Hand Holding
A Robotâs Family
Choosing Names
The Sibling Talk
Unnamed Creators (Part 1)
Unnamed Creators (Part 2)
Research Video Logs
Maintenance Visit
What Doesnât Go To Plan
Digital Debut
Air Jail
Nature Watch
Everybodyâs Favourite (COMPLETE)
Neglected!Y/N Yandere Batfam series. When neglected!Y/N Wayne gets abducted by the Penguin, they expect things to be resolved fairly quickly. But the ransom everybody was expecting never comes, and Penguin decides to just . . . keep them. It wasnât like their family ever wanted them back.
When the Batfam learns of this, a frantic search occurs across Gotham. Itâs time Y/N Wayne learned what it was like to be everyoneâs favourite.
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Silver Swan (COMPLETE)
Synopsis: Neglected!Y/N yandere Batfam series. Youâre sick of being left out of all the fancy events, but you always thought you werenât invited; you basically had no media presence. But when you find a bunch on invitations to previous events stuffed in a bookcase, you decide that thatâs the last straw. They donât want to be seen with you? Fine.
Silver Swan will be gatecrashing all future events.
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Frozen Heart (IN PROGRESS)
Synopsis: Neglected!reader x yandere!batfam. You were happy going unnoticed by your family until your school life made them take notice. A pack of school bullies accost you on your way home and leave your battered body on the cold Gotham streets. You would have frozen to death if it weren't for that kind passerby, and you get rushed to hospital. It's now up to the Batfam to find out who did this to you and nurse the injuries your attackers gave you . . . but your frozen heart will prove to be much harder to thaw than your extremities.
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Okay, you want to talk Ronsey, you better buckle up! (This is going to be long, sorry!)
As the formerly known TRK Anon, I can confidently say that trc is still somewhat fresh in my mind, so I have lots of examples to support my argument. Now, given that I have only read the series once, my character analysis might not be as deep or intense as yours.
If you don't know already, I am a huge Gansey lover/supporter/follower/fan/worshiper/bitch. (Will Pattonâs rendition of Gansey drives me absolutely feral!!!!) I have loved him since the very first time we know about his existence (Which is page 15 of TRB). If Gansey is part of the equation, I ship it! Bluesey, Ronsey, Declansey, Adansey, HELLâŠeven Chengsey (I could care less about Henry, so the fact that I acknowledge this ship is a big gesture on my part) I just want to make it clear that I am not an Adansey hater, it's just not my kind of jam (*shrugs*)
I know that what Gansey means to me, Adam is to you. But Adam was tough for me. Like REAL TOUGH to discern. It was not until halfway through TRK (practically when Pynch becomes canon) that I was finally able to appreciate him, to see him eye to eye and say: You ARE knowable. I will give it to Adam, he has the best, most memorable, character growth/development in the entire series (Ronan being a close second). But his stubbornness during TRB/TDT was so unbearable to me. He was such a DICK to Gansey. And yes, there were instances when Gansey deserved it (like the hospital scene) but most of their interactions (at the beginning of the series) are somewhat tense. They are constantly walking on eggshells, afraid to trigger/offend/provoke the other. There are MULTIPLE references to them fighting pre-canon, mostly about money, occasionally about who owns who. The whole DC trip was so stressful for all parties involved. In fact, Adam was so unapproachable that Gansey and Blue kept their relationship a secret because of how difficult he had been back then. (Honestly, I think he would have unalive them both) Plus, he is a hypocrite (I guess we all are) because when the rent thing happens, he goes to Gansey first and throws a fit about it!! But when he finds out that Ronan actually paid his rent, he is âcoolâ about it. He doesnât argue with him. He doesnât feel offended. He just accepts it (it being both the money and the fact). The one thing that really upsets me is Adam wanting the favor for himself. I understand why he wants it, but he knows it is Ganseyâs life purpose to find Glendower. It feels like a betrayal, you know? I just cannot stand people being mean to Gansey, it triggers me!!!!
And yes, I get it, there are some good moments between them. Like the call with Mallory when Gansey is trying to make Adam laugh. Or Adam fixing/diagnosing the pig. Or the two of them being ushers on Raven Day. But these moments are soâŠnormal (mundane?) that they donât feel special.
To me, Adansey is a somewhat âtoxicâ ship. It is a one-sided relationship, because Gansey gives and gives and Adam refuses to take. Adam practically (and literally) loathes? abhors? despises? everything that Gansey stands for (money, friendship, status, family, you get the gist). How can you possibly love someone that is the poster child of everything you hate?! I think Adansey would be the perfect ship for enemies to friends to lovers.
But Ronsey, oh my dear Ronsey!!!! To me, Ronsey is all about Gansey and Ronan meeting before Niallâs death. The way Gansey describes Ronan before his fatherâs death is so intoxicating. Gansey mourning the joyful boy that Ronan used to be. Gansey getting emotional over Ronanâs laugh. Gansey being completely and utterly amazed by Ronanâs dream creations (âYou incredible creatureâ). Ronan being unconditionally devoted to Gansey. Ronan being devastated that Gansey has other friends; that Gansey is going to DC with Adam and not him. Ronan and Gansey. Gansey and Ronan. Maybe I am not making any sense right now because my brain convulses just thinking about these two.
They have been through it all. God, there are so many moments pre-canon that I wish we could get to experience. Can you imagine Gansey panicking at the hospital with Ronanâs blood in his hands? Can you imagine Ronan teaching Gansey how to punch?! I canât remember if canon ever confirms how Gansey acquired his journal, but can you imagine if Ronan bought it for him!?!?!
@singersargentboi said it best: âThe thing I love about Ronsey is that even in the books theres this sort of unhinged devotion between them that toes the line at being romantic/sexual.â Letâs unpack this together. Exhibit A) Kavinskyâs substance party. O.M.G. Gansey being such a deranged version of himself that even Ronan cannot stop smiling about it. (âWhat is it my dog needs?â JUST KILL ME ALREADY) Exhibit B) Ronan dreaming the keys to the Camaro in such a steamy delicate way that I am pretty sure he woke up with a tent in his pants. Exhibit C) Gansey bribing a full-grown adult for Ronan. Exhibit D) Gansey constantly scolding/disciplining/bossing Ronan and somehow stopping the Lynch brothers from killing each other. Exhibit E) Ronan going back home against his dadâs wishes, but still turns to Gansey for comfort (âCan I go and see mom?â) And if all of this does not convince you, Iâll leave you with this: âGansey was far more of a brother to Ronan than Declan had ever been.â
However, I come to you with a peace offering, a secret third option: RODANSEY. Throughout the series it is constantly noted that 3 is the perfect number for magic ;)
THANK YOU FOR SPILLING YOUR THOUGHTS INTO MY ASK BOX đ this is delish and wow a HOT TAKE (to me, a simple woman who will live and die on the hill of adam parrish đ«¶) although I understand your grievances from a protect-gansey-at-all-costs point of view! I think youâre right about them having the potential to be a toxic ship because of how much they fight. Whatâs funny to me is how it seems like they donât understand each other⊠yet thereâs at least 3 times in TRB alone where they communicate just by looking at each other which is amazing considering from what we know they have only been friends a few years but theyâre that close and on that exact same level together. But then⊠theyâre not. I think Adam has just had to rely on himself for so long that he canât reprogram his brain to think differently, and gansey has had loving parents and a good sibling relationship and intense friendships therefore he canât even begin to understand adam. Theyâre on diff planets right? They canât relate to each other in any way shape or form. But thenâŠ. love comes along and makes it work??!??! This is why Iâm an adansey girl.
BUT everything you said about ronseyâŠ. That ferocious love I will never ever be over it ever đ„č unhinged devotion is exactly right. And we all know the when Iâm gone dream me the world quote but FOR ME itâs âhe couldnât say it, though. There were a thousand reasons why he couldnât say itâ like???? We were just supposed to move on from that? I canât I wont.
(side note cuz I gotta defend my boy declan and say he is the best brother ever and I will not expand at this time bc spoilers but the dreamer trilogy will)
RodanseyâŠâŠ now youâre talking my language. Truce? đ€ thank u for this ask itâs made my day xx
#living for rants like this#took me on a whole journey#adam parrish#ronan lynch#gansey#adansey#ronsey#rodansey#trc#the raven cycle#declan lynch#niall lynch#ask#meledde#pynch
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