#patton hate page

[cksirface]

My personal interpretation of the sides on tiktok and what flavor of comments that they leave

(Note: when I say weird people I don’t mean like cringe for interests or to be mean, I mean like deviants of society like those people that treat tiktok like a personal diary with no warning and are like genuinely freakazoids in a BAD WAY..)

Patton: always cooking videos but not the weird ones and he just scrolls when he sees those. Occasionally he’ll get art on there and his usual comment is “you know what, heaven yeah!” Like he definitely isn’t the type to leave hate comments or anything or he’ll leave genuine advice!

Roman: Musical theater. So much. Too much to count. There’s so much. He makes obscure references whenever he can to musicals in comments as well as Disney movies and usually doesn’t say much else. When something weird does come up he would be the type to just ignore it or if it’s like REPREHENSIBLE then he’ll go like “erm…” or “queen that isn’t normal actually” “maybe this is a sign?” “And the crowd!… the crowd is leaving”

Virgil: definitely a lot of music. Mostly fellow emo or goth and sometimes scene people. He had 50k saved sounds no doubt. He usually doesn’t interact with mainstream tiktok like at all (also probably prefers tumblr and Twitter anyway) but when he sees something weird he’ll just say “ok.” Or “idk leave me alone.”

Logan: Science and space tiktoks though he doesn’t use it much on the for you page and prefers the stem page offered. When he sees weird stuff if he gets mixed up or something then he usually won’t comment but if he’s in a really bad mood he’ll comment similar to Virgil with the “i don’t know.” Or “why is this on my for you page, this is not for me.”

Janus: gets those bullshit psychology videos on his fyp often and they make him laugh so hard because he knows it’s all stupid and fake. He does not hold back at all and regularly engaged with the weird tiktoks and the odd people because he thinks it’s funny “on my cellular device?” Or “nurse, it’s out again…”

Remus: gets almost solely brainrot content and cryptic videos in other languages. Every time he sees a Russian watermelon video on his fyp he immediately saves it and then sends it to Janus (and sometimes Patton and the poor guy just responds “that sure is a lot of watermelons! 🍉😄”) he is the type to comment things that feed into people’s delusions definitely. “Yes queen, go get him he’s in love!” Or weird things “I did this and I got stabbed sixty seven times in the chest!!!”

[juno-fiction-liker]

thinking about the moment janus finally breaks. he's convinced himself that he doesn't need to be liked by the others, that he's alright being hated, as long as he's able to do his job. but it has to weigh on him. it has to erode at him slowly, through the years, resentment building. he keeps a tally of the times he's protected thomas on his wall, to remind himself of why he keeps going despite never once being thanked. his form of protection is seen as immoral, his defenses misinterpreted as attacks on thomas' moral code. every other side casts him in the role of the villain, as some outside force of evil, instead of an integral part of thomas' mind.

that has to weigh on him.

i imagine he was born sometime after the twins, around the same time as patton, since they are two sides of a coin. selfishness and selflessness. self-preservation and morality. the side that protects thomas first and foremost and the side that protects thomas' integrity and morals.

they clashed from the start, but with every lie thomas told to protect himself, the rift grew larger and larger, patton's guilt grew stronger and stronger, until eventually he began to reject janus as a part of thomas at all. and the others followed suit.

janus was the first dark side, the first side of thomas that the others couldn't accept. which meant that he was cast out alone, young, probably no older than 12, into an empty space. he started keeping a tally. a tally, just for himself. a torn off paper from a notebook, a single pencil. to keep track of every time he saved thomas. protected thomas. kept thomas safe. slowly, the wall filled out. drawings of thomas. lists of things thomas likes. lists of things thomas could do to calm down when stressed.

but thomas didn't know him. the others were keeping him locked up there, in his own room of darkness, he grew bitter and resentful.

everything that happened happens, and everyone expects him to just move on from the years of rejection and ungratefulness.

and one day, he just breaks.

one last comment from a well-meaning patton, one last "he's trying to manipulate you" at thomas, and suddenly janus is screaming and sobbing, "why won't you listen to me? why does no one ever listen to me? i'm a part of him too, i'm not working against you, i'm not your enemy, i love him, i've always loved him. i just want to help him. i want to protect him. that's all. that's all i've ever wanted."

and there's a moment of silence, of confusion. janus disappears into his room.

they find him in the corner, by the pages. there must be hundreds of them by now. lists of likes, dislikes, triggers, comforts. a tally reaching over the original page, now filling the wall next to it instead. self-care guides personalized for thomas. ineffective defense mechanisms crossed out, effective ones circled. an entire and extensive guide to taking care of thomas sanders, built through the years with incredible care and affection, a monument to janus' love for thomas.

and that's when the others realize, all at once, that thomas probably would not be alive right now if it weren't for janus.

one after the other, they reach out to touch him. to hold him. for the first time taking him into their arms as one of their own. their deceit. their self-preservation. he's exhausted to the point of not reciprocating the touch in any way, but his eyes are closed and his muscles relax, he lets his body be held and loved as he weeps out the rest of his resentment into their arms. finally accepted.

but the most important touch is thomas' own. he reaches out, after a moment's hesitation, to hold janus' face in his hands. he stares into his eyes, finally understanding this part of himself for what it is. he pulls him into a gentle kiss, not romantic, just comfort. again, and again, and again, as he whispers what janus has wanted to hear all this time "thank you, thank you, thank you. i love you. you're mine. i love you. please stay. please be a part of me forever."

[cere-mon-ials]

2024 in what made me happy: a misc list

the broadcast schedules of cdrama. this year, for the first time, i finished a cdrama because i saw one gif set of wu jinyang telling wang xingyue that he was handsome in the pouring rain. after the double, i watched and loved love like the galaxy, watched and loved amidst a snowstorm of love. then, i began watching and loving blossom as it aired new episodes every single day. i love what this has done to my drama-watching routines because it's not as fickle as a binge drop and it's not as sedate as weekly drops.

no, but weekly drops too. especially, only murders in the building and running to reddit to see what all the hot new theories are. and, culinary class wars — that was a good month.

i refused to listen to podcasts, and it made some small room to listen to other, more useful, voices. i didn’t finish books i cared little for. i closed tabs and deleted bookmarks more often. i didn't attend any weddings, in an attempt to recover from the weddings i did attend in 2023 and the 2025 invitations currently dinging on my whatsapp.

got a job, hated it, found some courage to turn back on the excellent pay, and left it. got another job soon enough, one that now keeps me on my toes but isn't painful on my heels.

my mother's saree collection, and to the first year of my life when i got to wear them on the reg.

learning chinese and refining my urdu. i can now recall maybe 15 chinese characters without fumbling and read a faiz poem slowly, with a pencil and in a quiet room. it's great because it's so difficult.

saife hassan, whose direction of zard patton ka bunn has (a) seized me back into pakistani drama (b) given me meenu and nofil's tender, sweet romance (c) brought back feelings that i thought dead and wouldn't want to articulate in this space.

the ambition in as byatt's possession, which crept into my dreams to remind me that i am slacking and in cixin liu's three-body problem, which crept into my nightmares to remind me that the grand architecture held in the entirety of my imagination is a speck in the universe. i can't tell you if i loved or even enjoyed either book but i don't think it matters. i have reserved the remaining two books of liu's trilogy for 2025.

steaming white rice with a spoonful of ghee and a smattering of salt, the most delicious appetizer to any meal.

last year, after avoiding them because they were always priced higher, i began buying poetry books. this growing bedside stack has been my solace and i love reaching for a random page to find something i needed to read in that moment. i began this year with my dearest heaney and i intend to end it with cavafy.

the discipline of a simple skincare routine, which i am not always good at keeping up with and my skin isn't all that better either but i am trying.

syd & carmy & richie & tina & marcus & chef terry & everyone else in the bear.

the soundtrack of lovely runner kept me company on some of the longest commutes and shut out loud arguments in the ladies compartment. the soundtrack of love like the galaxy felt like the soundtrack of my life for about three months this year. the soundtrack of the last samurai came out of nowhere to aid me during difficult work sessions. i am always in search of appropriate times to blast the soundtrack of gully boy, the weeknd's my dear melancholy, and frou frou's details. there's no lack of appropriate times to blast a rahman album.

driving, i guess. i resisted for as long as i could because i am a public transportation person but i do not live in a city that is conducive for it. i do feel a strange sense of accomplishment at learning this skill.

the classics that i missed when they were being defined as such: i loved moonstruck's ridiculous commitment to being perfect because of its loudness and not despite it. sandra and keanu really did something special with speed (i know!!!) and i was beyond thrilled to experience that kind of textured action filmmaking. michael clayton and the pelican brief were wonderful watches as smaller, quieter, revelatory films where stars get to be actors. lee mi-sook in an affair changed me at a molecular level.

i fell in love all over again with short films and documentaries: loved sean wang's silly and heartfelt nǎi nai & wài pó, loved maryam takafory's touching irani bag. i rewatched amit dutta's nainsukh a full decade after i first watched it in college and i am yet to figure out how he did it.

monsoons, which i didn't get to experience this year but about which i read a miscellaneous ton in search of a doctoral thesis topic for whenever i choose the take the plunge. i am never not thinking about those winds and those rains from my childhood and the limited future i can imagine for myself.

my k-pop listening has suffered because my favourites are serving in the military but i held on thanks to the loving embrace of enhypen. i watched their online concerts with utmost pleasure. best performances: enhypen. best album: ateez's golden hour, part 2. best music video: stray kids' chk chk boom.

hozier singing i think i'll take my whiskey neat / my coffee black and my bed at three / you're too sweet for me.

so much hozier, london grammar, rahman, the hindi cinema by the decade playlists on spotify, and terrible tiktok music that unfortunately sound fab in the car music system.

my loved ones and all of you, who are better than me in every way that counts.

[neutralm4sk]

7TH COMIC RAMBLINGS

saw more of my wife... life is good. my ass is filled with so much endorphins rn

SPOILERS

seems like Admin's petty tomfuckery is based on something Zeph did to her a long time ago (presumably that led to her parents dying) though judging from the cover variants, there's no clear answer. (she said it herself, she's forgotten why she was so vengeful in the first place.)

she's such a petty bitch i both love and hate that for her

toxic doomed energy and for what TTOTT crusty ass old man

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JANE DOE AND ZHANNA'S CHILDREN!!! General Patton Doe - first-born, named after George S. Patton (his first name is just General honestly. slay ig)

Georgia Washington Doe - second-born, named after George Washington(?)

.......both of them are named after Georges........

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seems like in canon there's only 7 teams. kinda thought of that already after Cheavy's complaints but this mural settles it

A- Ajax (Their Heavy)

B (Their Sniper)

C- Citadel (Their Scout)

D (Their Demoman)

E- Echelon (Their Spy)

F- Fortress

seems like Fortress is the "he who shall not be named" in there... sighs.

so with this panel, this is probably Team D's Demoman.... Tavish just looking at this dude i'd shit myself too TTOTT

seems to be another team's Pyro.....

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SHE'S SO PETTYYYYYYYY <333

this part makes me both sad and giggly cause damn RIGHT. she was solely fueled by revenge TT_TT

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ngl it made me so happy to see these two again.... my babies. though mann co being co-owned by them seems like a nice ending for them :))

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ALSO CANON SCOUT NAME REVEAL WOOHOO!!! the etches on the mailbox makes me so sad. at least he's a father that sticks around for his children (also just. the way he's like scout ma i'm going to kms :((. WHERE IS SCOUT MA IN THISSSS I NEED TO SEE THEM BOTH BEING HAPPY)

SCOUT'S KIDDIES

THIS WHOLE PAGE... seems like Spy grandpa arc will never be real. riots

Doe fam definitely brought these rations WAHAHAH

ALSO these photos.... i'm sobbing

love is real :''''')

[starlocked01]

Your Average Petty Sinner

AO3 link (pending)

Summary- Patton goes through an Emo phase and decides to hang out with the most notorious kids at school, going so far as to try to date their leader.

Relationships- Janus&Patton (Moceit), Remus/Virgil (Dukexiety)

Word Count- 5.4k

Content Warnings- swearing, mild description of injury, mild sexual innuendos

This is my @sanderssidesgiftxchange gift for @lily-janus 💛💙 I really hope you like it! Also a shout out to @infinitesimal-dna for beta reading and putting up with my shenanigans.

“I just don't get it!” Patton frantically paced the small patch of faded pale blue carpet that was visible in his cluttered room, “I literally caught them with cigarettes and lighters in the bathroom- how did they weasel out of detention this time?”

Roman barely looked up from the script in his hand as he lounged on Patton’s bed, “I don't know. Remus didn't say when Mom picked us up. They weren't going to hurt anyone but themselves.”

“Lighters start fires- they could have caused a fire alarm and some freshman could have been trampled in the ensuing panic while the science wing burned down-” Patton whipped back to face Roman who remained unperturbed. 

“And none of that happened. You saved the day, Padre. Why can't you just be happy about that?”

“Because they didn't get in trouble!” Patton crossed his arms tight over his chest and resumed his pacing, “why turn in the bad kids if they're just going to be let go?”

“Sounds like you want to put my brother in jail,” Roman snickered and briefly looked up, “I don't know why. Why do you snitch on them?” Roman countered

Patton bit down hard on his lip before taking a measured breath, “I am not snitching. They just keep breaking the rules in front of me.”

“I think you just want Janus to notice you. Trust me, he does, sweetie. Remus won't stop complaining about how much the goodie two shoes need to fu- leave them alone,” Roman replies, remembering too late the household ban on swears.

“SHH! Don’t let Mom hear you.” Patton whispered tersely, “you’re wrong. I don’t care what any of them think about me– especially not Janus.”

Roman snorted, “Yeah, right. That’s why you’re constantly tattling on him. Didn’t anyone ever tell you that when a boy’s mean to you that means he likes you?”

Patton stopped in his tracks and turned back to face Roman, “That’s… completely untrue.”

Roman rolled his eyes, flipping a page lazily, “Just keep telling yourself that, Padre. I bet if you just asked he’d go out with you.”

“I’m not gay and I don’t want to go out with him,” Patton countered, “will you please just be quiet? My mom would kick you out in two seconds for being a quote ‘bad influence’ if she heard you right now.”

“Mmm fine. Alright. I won’t talk about your obvious crush on Mr. Tall, Dark and Mysterious.”

“I am not- Why don’t you understand that not everyone has to like guys?” 

Roman sat up, “I’m not saying everyone. I just know you, Patt. You don’t like girls. You’ve turned down like twenty of them since homecoming last year. So if you don’t like girls, that just leaves guys. I know you don’t feel comfortable bringing a bf home because of the witch, but you’ve at least got to let yourself consider the possibility.”

“Maybe I just haven’t met the right girl,” Patton replied, not sounding as convincing as he should have to shut down the conversation.

Roman chuckled, “sure. Because she’s actually a boy named Janus and you’re looking in the wrong places.”

“Roman!”

“Just ask him!”

“He hates me. And I don’t like him.”

“You absolutely fucking do!”

“Roman!” Patton hissed, flinching as he could hear his mother’s footsteps coming down the hallway. “Now you’ve done it-” he muttered as the bedroom door clicked and swung open.

“Patton, sweetie. What’s our rule for having friends over?” his mother asked from the door, a falsely sweet and disarming voice cutting through the tension of the argument.

Patton turned, “they need to follow house rules and not distract from school work…”

“That’s right. If I’m not mistaken, I believe I heard Mr. Prince here swearing. That is no way to speak to others, is it?” 

“No, ma’am,” Patton replied, head hung in defeat. 

She turned towards Roman, “Exactly. I’m sorry dear, but you need to leave and reevaluate your vocabulary and manners if you want to spend time with my son.”

“Sorry, Patt,” Roman murmured as he grabbed his backpack and walked past to leave, “tomorrow. Just do it.” 

Patton sighed with exasperation, “Please, Mom, let him stay? He didn’t mean to-”

“You know the rules, Patton. I think it’s about time you got started on your homework,” she brushed him off, escorting Roman out to the front door. 

Patton waited until he heard the front door shutting before closing his bedroom door to get started on his work, trying to tune out his racing thoughts about school. 

___ ___ ___

 Janus slumped against the lockers, ignoring the dirty look from Susan next to him when he accidentally shut hers for her. It wasn’t his fault her locker was so close to Virgil’s. He gripped the head of his cane to keep it from sliding into the throng of students that would trample and crack it without a second thought. The polished wooden cane had cost a fortune, stained black with a yellow snake carved around the shaft up to the handle. He'd refused to adopt a medical-looking metal bully magnet and protected his aide fiercely. Janus silently watched Virgil picking out text books for the next class.

“What a bitch, right?” he asked once Virgil had noticed him. 

Virgil nodded sagely, “Yeah. Who’re we talking about this time?”

Janus smirked, “Mrs. Hansen, of course. It’s like she doesn’t even care that I don’t give a fuck about Physics.”

“She held you after class again? That bitch!” Virgil gaped, closing his locker, “that is so messed up. You should tell the VP that she’s not respecting your accommodations, right?”

“Like he ever cared the twenty thousand other times someone tried to make life harder,” Janus scoffed, glancing at the disturbance coming down the hallway and opting not to warn Virgil.

With all the subtlety of a tornado, Janus watched as Remus pinned Virgil to the lockers, dropping his backpack at Janus’ feet in his hurry to get hands on the boy. Virgil grunted in surprise, pushing back against the attack until he recognized the lips pressed harshly into his neck.

“Rem-! Oh my god!” Virgil laughed breathlessly, “I told you not at school, motherfucker!”

Remus looked up with a devious grin, “and? Your mother said she loved it.”

“Gross,” Virgil chuckled and pulled his boyfriend into a tight hug, “I missed you.”

Janus rolled his eyes, pushing the discarded backpack away with the tip of his cane, “It’s been all of an hour since you two last molested each other in front of the entire school.”

“Jealous, Jannie?”

“Utterly green with envy,” Janus sighed, noticing the crowd in the hall thinning rapidly, “are you done playing tongue hockey yet?”

“Never,” Remus laughed and turned back to Virgil, cutting off his protests with a filthy kiss.

“I’m honestly surprised you haven’t figured out how to make gay love babies yet,” Janus replied, carefully readjusting his treasured suede gloves. The crowds of students dissipated and doors shut as the bell for the next period rang through the now empty halls.

Janus nudged the pair, “Biology will have to wait. Let's get going.”

“Oh come on!” Remus whined, “just tell Mr. Sawan you got held back and we're helping you-”

“It's not a lie for once,” Virgil added, leaning down to grab Remus' bag.

“And they say I'm the bad influence,” Janus scoffed, grabbing his cane to start towards class. Virgil and Remus reluctantly followed, careful to give him space to walk. 

Janus wasn't actually eager to get to class. Everyone always stared when he walked in late, despite arriving late by necessity every day. The scrutiny felt absolutely miserable. 

As they neared the stairs down to the mathematics wing, Janus paused to let the couple go first. The last thing he wanted was to slip all the way down into a concussion.

“Hey!” A voice called loudly from down the hall, “aren't you supposed to be in class?”

Janus glanced over and swore quietly at the sight of the world's most annoying goody two shoes coming towards them.

“Patton. Where do you think we're going?” He asked in a lazy drawl.

“Yeah, calm your tits,” Remus added less than helpfully.

Patton frowned, glancing down at his chest for a brief moment, “I don't have- the bell rang five minutes ago. You're supposed to be in class. I bet you're out here trying to smoke and ditch class.”

“How? You stole my lighter yesterday,” Virgil snarked back, arms crossed tightly over his chest.

“It’s against school policy-” Patton started.

“What's against policy is a student trying to police other students. I literally cannot walk the halls when everyone else is running around,” Janus spoke up, standing up straighter. “We'd have made it by now if you hadn't interrupted us.”

“You liar. You're just messing around to get out of class,” Patton accused, stepping closer as if to intimidate Janus.

He laughed, “we have this discussion once a week! If I didn't know better, I would think you're going out of your way to flirt with me.”

An inscrutable look passed over Patton’s face, freckles melting into a soft flustered blush. “I am not!” Patton whispered hoarsely.

“Then we'll just be on our way,” Janus sneered, starting down the first step, cane first.

“Hey!” Patton gasped, reaching for Janus’s shoulder. Janus flinched at the unexpected touch, shifting to toss Patton as far from him as possible.

Unfortunately, this sent the boy careening down the flight of stairs.

“Shit!” Janus exclaimed,  watching in horror and slight mesmerism as Patton came to a halt on the first landing.

“You killed him!” Remus cackled with glee at the possibility.

“Jan- what the fuck?” Virgil asked, not sure if he should move to help Patton or not.

Janus glanced down the hall, and seeing no one, made his decision.

“Virgil, help me get him to the nurse.” he instructed. “Remus, get to class and tell them Virgil and I cannot make it. Give as little context as possible, got it?”

Remus nodded and hurried to the class.

Janus hurried down the steps as fast as he could manage to the place Patton lay on the stairs.

“Wh- why?” Patton murmured, cradling his shoulder, “I- I wasn't-”

“Next time don't touch people without permission,” Janus snapped, reaching to pick  Patton up, “can you walk?”

“I- I think so?” Patton winced, trying to sit up with both of the others pulling him up, “d-don't pull my arm, please.”

Janus nodded, “right, let's go, before you die or something.”

“Good going, Jan,” Virgil groaned as Patton leaned more heavily against him.

“Shut it, Vi. I didn't do anything.”

The walk down the rest of the stairs and to the nurse's office felt impossibly long and arduous, as Patton moved slower than even Janus. And he moaned in pain at each jostle to his arm.

“You're going to be okay,” Virgil chewed at his cheek, “it wasn't that bad of a fall.”

“I- I hope so,” Patton murmured, “why are the bad kids helping me?”

Janus rolled his eyes, “who said we're bad?”

“I- you always get in trouble,” Patton tried to explain.

“Yeah. Because you're always trying to get us in trouble,” Virgil scoffed.

“I don't expect you to understand, Patton,” Janus stopped as they reached the nurse’s office, “ but sometimes people just don't think like you.”

Patton nodded then tried to walk into the office, “thanks, I guess.”

Janus rolled his eyes, turning to head back to class, only to be confronted with the imposing figure of the school vice principal.

“What's this, then?”

“Oh- sir, I can explain,” Janus offered hastily.

“You will,” the man nodded, pointing towards his office, “If you please, Mr. Shephard.”

Virgil fiddled with his sleeves, “It was completely an accident. We were just helping Patton.”

“He fell down the stairs after slipping on a spilled water bottle,” Janus protested, already tired of walking, “I think he hit his head so we didn't want to leave him alone before he could get over here.”

“I see,” the man eyed the two, “is that so?”

“Yes. That's what happened.” Janus nodded emphatically. He watched the disciplinarian's face to see if he bought the story.

“Get to your class,” the vice principal barked, and the two wasted no time disappearing down the hallway.

___ ___ ___

Patton stirred and sat gingerly up in bed. A needle of pain shot through his shoulder at the weight pressed on it. 

“Oh- f-”

“Patton!” His mother stood at the door to his room with a sour look on her face.

“I was going to say ‘fudge’,” Patton gritted his teeth.

“Honestly, when did I raise such a delinquent?” She shook her head and barged her way in, “bullying other students and now swearing? Certainly nothing I taught you.”

“Mom!”

“I won't hear it. Luckily, some of your classmates collected your homework assignments for you. Behave yourself with them,” she scolded.

“I'm not a bully,” Patton muttered, gazing up at the ceiling as though the stucco could offer him the strength to endure her accusations.

“For the record, no one said you were but her. I don’t know why she thinks that,” Patton looked back to the door sharply, finding his mother replaced with Virgil standing slouched against the frame, a book bag slung over one shoulder. “Hey- I hope it's okay I- let's not worry about how I knew your address. How… are.. you?”

“I've been better. The doctor poked and prodded me a lot yesterday.” 

“Yikes…”

Patton nods, “I’ll be back in school by Monday. Unless I go completely loopy in the head. But I think the sprain in my shoulder is worse. Is Janus okay?”

“Huh? Oh, yeah. He was tired from all the running around but like.. I don’t think he’s mad at you, if that’s what you’re worried about,” Virgil glanced back to the door before leaning closer to ask, “is she always like that?”

Patton nodded, “yeah… that’s my mom for you.”

Virgil swung his bag onto the bed, “alright, well, I’ve got your homework for the classes you missed.. And I thought you might like some music to pass the time? It’s the kind I listen to when I get really upset,” Virgil explained with a pointed look as he pulled a disk in a clear cover out of the bag with the school books, “just.. Let me know what you think if you do. I’m really sorry about what happened.”

“It’s not your fault, Virge-” Patton shook his head and then winced, “thank you, though.”

“No worries. I- uh.. Look forward to seeing you..? Yeah. Get better soon.”

Patton watched as Virgil exited his bedroom, confused why he of any of the kids at school brought him make up work. He examined the CD, turning it to read the sharpie writing, a list of songs with artists listed in incomprehensible initials. He turned the case over, noticing a small piece of paper tucked under the CD inside the case. Intrigued, he pried the case open and popped the CD out, laying it on the blanket. He retrieved the small folded paper from his lap, carefully picking it apart. 

I didn’t push you down the stairs. I also did not try to help you after you tripped. If you tell anyone I did, I won’t hesitate to make you regret it. -J

Patton frowned, confused by the note. He tossed it aside and pulled out his portable CD player to listen to the mixtape without his mom listening in. He laid back, letting the beats and melodies wash over him. As he listened, an idea started to form, one of which he was barely conscious.

___ ___ ___

“Are you insane?” Roman stared far more openly than other students in the hall. Patton shrugged and pushed past his friend to his locker.

“I’m just trying something new,” Patton replied, hanging his backpack up and picking out books for the first class. He tried very hard to not express frustration when the bookbag caught on the spikes sticking out of one of his many new bracelets. 

“You look ridiculous. You hate black! What is going on?” 

“I can wear whatever I want, Ro. You sound like my mother right now.” 

That shut Roman’s protests up quickly. Patton hummed to himself, reaching into the bag to pull out a brand new makeup pallet made of browns and blacks, picking the darkest shade to dab onto his eyelids.

“How hard did you hit your head?” Roman asked, staring in even more shock and disbelief. 

“My head is fine, Roman. I told you I’m trying something new,” Patton explained.

“Oh Hey! When did you get hot, Pat-Pat?” Remus yelled, dragging Virgil behind him from down the hall.

“Woah- Patton, are you okay?” Virgil asked as they reached him and Roman at the lockers. 

“Looks like Jannie knocked some sense into him. Hot damn!” Remus leered, earning a smack on the shoulder from Virgil and Roman. 

“Guys, I am fine. I promise. I wanted to see how my mom would take it,” Patton offers, not so subtly searching the halls.

“Right. Suuuuuuure,” Remus giggled, “just remember that Virgie is mine,” he snaps playfully, “I don’t share and I certainly don’t do threesomes.” Remus winked, sending a shiver of disgust running down Patton’s spine. “Congrats, baby emo.”

“If you need to talk or something,” Virgil managed to offer before getting swept away by Remus.

Roman sighed, “Seriously, do you want to talk?”

“I’ll be fine, Ro. I’m still me. I just... I don’t know. It felt right this morning,” Patton offers as explanation.

“Well, you know where to find me. And if this is some ploy to get Janus to like you- it won’t work-” 

“I don’t care if he likes me,” Patton protests, “this isn’t about him.”

“It’s not?” Janus asked in a smooth voice, standing behind Patton as if he appeared there from thin air.

“Janus!” Patton whipped around, “how- when did you- um, hi.” he stammered.

Roman laughed and clapped Patton on the shoulder, “good luck, Romeo. See you at lunch.” He walked away still laughing as Patton blushed and tried to shake the teasing off.

Janus watched curiously. He certainly would never have predicted that Patton would show up in an all black pretend-emo costume. Amazing really how people could still surprise him. 

“I promise that Roman doesn’t know what he’s talking about-” Patton tried to recover his composure.

“He never does. Poor Remus got all the interesting and useful brains,” Janus sighed, examining his gloved hand nonchalantly. “Even if this were some ploy for my attention, I wouldn’t be interested just because you changed clothes and painted your nails.”

“That implies you would be interested in different circumstances,” Patton pointed out.

“Would I? I never said that. You understood my message, right?” Janus asked, changing topics quickly.

Patton nodded, “I- yes, I understood. You didn’t have to threaten me. Everyone thinks I broke my head and wouldn’t believe me saying either thing.” 

“Correct. No use spreading rumors,” Janus smirked.

“Janus?” 

“What?” 

“Do you think I’m a bad person?” Patton asked quietly.

Janus took a moment to think over the question, “Why are you asking me?”

“Because I think you’re probably the person I’ve hurt the most.”

Janus laughed, “Oh please. Like you could hurt me. Since when do you care about my opinions?”

“I don’t know- I’m really trying something new here, Janus.” Patton worried his lip between his teeth. 

“I see. I notice,” Janus nodded and turned to head towards class.

“Janus? Do I… seem like I have a crush on you?”

Janus stopped in his tracks, turning back slowly, “Do you have one?”

Patton shrugged his one good shoulder, “Roman says I must have one. I’m not sure. How do I figure it out?”

Janus studied the black clad teen he would have sworn had it out for him just two days ago. Who was he to answer this kind of question? And why wouldn’t he just ask Roman, the prince of failed relationships?

“I don’t know. Go on a date with me?” Janus was just as surprised at the words leaving his lips as Patton looked hearing them.

“Wait- really?”

“Yes. We can go out tonight. No need to make it formal. Just black, not black tie.” Janus nodded. It surprised him just how calm and collected he felt, proposing a romantic time together. 

Patton hummed, “um.. I assume Virgil… gave you my address,” he replied diplomatically, “would you be able to pick me up.”

“Yes. 9 o’clock?”

Patton nodded, “yeah, that works. I’ll see you then?”

Janus smiled just a bit mischievously, “yes, you will. Good luck in school today. Everyone is going to notice.”

“Notice what?” Patton asked.

“This.” Janus smirked and leaned forward, planting a lipstick stained kiss on Patton’s cheek, turning to leave just as the first bell rang out. 

Patton stood frozen like a deer, slowing reaching up to touch his cheek, “oh, shit-”

___ ___ ___

“Uh, Jannie?”

“Yes, Remus?”

“Where the fuck are we going?” Remus asked, hanging on the back of Janus’ seat.

Janus inhaled slowly, “We’re picking up my date for tonight.”

“Since when do you date?” Virgil asked, lounging in the back seat and scrolling on his phone.

“Since this morning,” Janus answered, “You two just made it look so fun I had to give it a try.”

“Ooooooooh,” Remus absolutely beamed, “so who’s the lucky virgin?”

“Come on, Re. Don’t assume,” Virgil chided, trying to pull his boyfriend back to the back seat. “Wait- I recognize this street-”

“Just shut up,” Janus growled, “You’re the ones who wanted me to date. He’s harmless and might even like me.”

“So you’re trying to go out with the guy who made our lives hell for over a year?” Virgil asked.

“I’m not being some sort of saint, I’m just curious about what Patton’s going through.”

“I’ll cancel the wedding bells,” Remus cackled as they pulled up to the door. The headlights swept over the porch, revealing Patton sitting outside in the dark. He popped up, rushing over to the passenger side of the car.

“Hey Janus- and… Virgil and Remus? What?” Patton squinted at the couple in the back seat, “is this.. A double date?”

“Somewhat. Get in,” Janus commanded, ignoring the snickering from the back seat. 

Patton climbed in and sat down, confused but not about to back out now. Not when Roman would roast him for failing to go on the first date he’s ever been asked out on. Janus pulled out of the driveway and continued on in relative quiet.

“So… where are we going?” Patton asked, a little too bright for his dark exterior. 

“You’ll see,” Janus replied cryptically.

Patton nodded and fell silent, watching the road slip by as they drove along.

“Woof. The chemistry is just bubbling,” Remus snarked after a few minutes of quiet, sitting back to cuddle into Virgil.

Virgil laughed softly, “give them time. I’m sure it’s just first date awkwardness.” He wrapped his arms around Remus and held him close.

Janus turned down a residential street and flicked off the headlights, “Well, Patton, since you’re exploring new countercultures, I figured it would be a good idea to bring you along to a protest.”

“A protest? At night?” Patton asked, fear glinting in his eyes, “what kind of protest?”

“One against ableism in the education system,” Virgil grinned, grabbing cartons of eggs from the floor of the back seat.

“Yeah! We’re gonna show that bitch what it feels like!” Remus crowed, opening the door before Janus could put the car in park and banging impatiently on the trunk. Virgil piled out as well as Janus parked and grabbed the latch to open the trunk for them. 

“This… is illegal, isn’t it?” Patton worried, glancing around the street to see if they had been spotted yet.

“Very.” Janus nodded, “but, lucky us that the Virus have the dirty work covered. We’re just lookouts tonight. Mrs. Hansen has been violating my disability accommodations. That makes my life harder when I end up missing the beginning of class because of the crowds in the hallway. So we’re making her morning a bit harder.”

“Oh.. that’s why you three were in the hallway during class time the other day?” Patton asked, voice softening at the realization.

“Yes. Sometimes we wait until after the bell anyway but she still shouldn’t be holding me back like that,” Janus explained.

“I’m sorry- I didn’t realize that,” Patton offered quietly, wincing as Remus started chucking raw eggs at the car in the driveway.

“Relax, Patton. They’re just letting off steam. I swear they would have burned the school down by now if I didn’t try to aim them at productive activities,” Janus chuckled, glancing down the road for any observers.

“Right. So… this is a date… why don’t you tell me about yourself?” Patton turned in his seat to face Janus. 

Janus slowly turned his head, “what do you want to know?”

“Um, I’m not sure. I’ve never done this before,” Patton laughed nervously, “maybe… when did you know that you’re gay?”

Janus snorted at that, “I still don’t know. You’re the first boy I’ve tried to date. You’d think hanging out around the twins would make that sort of question easy, right?”

“Right! Like, I’ve known Roman really well for years and he sure seems to know… some of what he wants. But I just don’t know how he understands what a crush is versus wanting to be friends.”

“Those two make it seem like you meet someone and suddenly they’re the only thought in your head ever,” Janus nodded to the couple who were busy laying out toilet paper strips in the shape of a penis on the hood of the car, “I’ve never understood it.” 

“Do you.. Feel that way about me?” Patton asks, “since you’re the one who asked me out.”

“Frankly, I find your change of aesthetic rather intriguing. And you seem willing to challenge some of your bullshit ideas right now, so why not?” Janus shrugs, “maybe I just want attention and don’t give a fuck about who you are. You can never know.”

Patton looked down towards his hands, folded neatly in his lap, “I think I’ve been jealous of you all.”

“How so? You seemed adamant about reporting us to the school like a narc for the past year,” Janus challenged.

“Because things like egging teacher’s houses and smoking in the hallways can cause problems for people! But, I do like how you all express yourselves.”

“Really?”

“Right. You just… get to be weird and stand out in classes. You get away with a disturbing amount of rule breaking. It seems really freeing,” Patton sighed softly, “Maybe I’m thinking about it wrong. I’ve just always felt terrified of disappointing people, and in just one day I’ve been able to disappoint almost everyone.”

“So, you’re just dressing emo to make people upset, not to express yourself?”

“I mean- maybe partially?” Patton shrugged, “I never knew you all were this criminal-”

“Patton-”

“And… I think it’s maybe hot that you all stand up for yourselves despite what people think of you?” Patton says shyly, more of a question than an opinion.

“I didn’t bring you along to impress you with like that-”

“No?”

“I thought giving Virgil and Remus a target would give us some time alone,” Janus explains.

“Time  alone to do what?” Panton leaned a bit closer.

“What we’re doing now, talking.”

“That’s all you wanted to do with me?” Patton asked, head tilted a bit.

“Did you want to kiss me?” 

“Patton-”

Patton leaned in even closer until the backdoor slammed open, sending him scrambling back to his seat, blushing bright red.

“Drive- Neighbor might be calling the cops.” Remus replied, out of breath.

Virgil nodded and Janus jumped into action to get away from the crime scene. 

“Looked like a productive date,” Remus teased as Janus slowed back down to avoid suspicion.

“Wow what a rush!” Patton exclaimed. 

“Adrenaline wasn’t the point,” Janus reminded him, “Are you two ready to head home?”

“Yeah, Remus’ please,” Virgil nods.

Remus spent the car ride back to his place giving the lookouts a play by play of the night, with Virgil interjecting with certain facts and figures.. Janus soon dropped the pair off and the silence settled between him and Patton. 

“I just… you guys get away with bad behavior all the time. I wish I could do that the same as you,” Patton spoke up eventually.

Janus sighed and pulled the car over again, this time near a park, “Do you even care about why we do that stupid shit?”

“Well, tonight was about getting back at Mrs. Hansen, right? For treating you badly,” Patton recalled.

“And skipping class is because it’s too overwhelming to sit still learning useless crap with a bunch of jerks who know nothing about what it’s like to try and navigate when your feet don’t just take you to where you need to go. They don’t care that it hurts to walk and it’s just safer to take my time with friends by my side to catch me.”

“I-”

“You just see me as some bad boy to upset people with. You don’t care how I feel about it, do you?” Janus challenged.

“That’s not true-” Patton tried to protest. 

“I’m not some average petty sinner to disappoint your family with at the holidays. I actually have feeling and wants and needs and I just- I-”

Patton reached over to take one of Janus’ hands, “It’s okay. I-I didn’t want to use you, Janus. Not in the long run. Sure, I wanted to experiment and see if Roman’s right about crushes, but I don’t want to trap you in a relationship you won’t enjoy. I don’t want to hurt you.”

Janus looked away, trying to pull his hand free.

“Just remember that you asked me out tonight. So, I thought that kisses were something you’re supposed to do on dates. Can we try again without interruptions this time? See if… well, if we’ll like that sort of thing?”

“Are you even listening to me?”

“Yes, yes I am. You are not a manic pixie dream boy or the dangerous rebel to scare my mom with. You’re Janus. And I don’t know you very well because I’ve never tried to get to know you. But we’re on a date. It’s past curfew. I think you at least deserve a chance at something properly romantic, since defacing property was just the distraction to keep Remus and Virgil busy. It’s too late to get food anywhere. So maybe we can try a kiss and start over again in the morning?”

Janus blinked, trying to process all of that at once. “Um… no.”

“No?” Patton sat back immediately, “did I do something wrong?”

“Not necessarily, I just… you asking makes it very clear to me that I don’t want to kiss you, Patton.” Janus tried to explain.

Patton nodded, “okay. I- actually, thank you? I- I was so scared…”

Janus chuckled softly, “I don’t think we’re crushing on each other. I’m not sure why not. But I’m glad you agree.” 

Patton nodded emphatically this time, “I very much don’t want to be the awkward one. I think… it would feel wrong or empty to try. And that’s not your fault-”

“I get it. I agree. We tried. Dating just… isn’t in our cards,” Janus laughed a bit more at that, “let me take you home?”

“Yes please. Maybe at school… we can just say hi?”

“That would be much more pleasant.”

Patton sighed softly and leaned back in the passenger seat, “I won’t tell about the eggs and toilet paper, by the way. Maybe I should ask Mrs. Hansen why she’s not letting you leave for class on time?”

Janus smiled, “That could be helpful. Maybe she just needs to see one of the responsible students concerned on our behalf.”

“Would have been a lot less illegal if you just asked me to do that in the first place,” Patton giggled, “It makes more sense than vandalism.”

“But throwing trash at her house is fun,” Janus grins, starting the car again.

“It may be fun. But there are much better outlets for the anger, I would think.” Patton grinned.

“Maybe you’ll be a good acquaintance after all,” Janus mused, pulling back out onto the road to take his definitely-not-a-date back home.

[sanderssides-askpalace]

Sanders Sides Askpalace: Recap 1

The sides introduce the blog and give a warm welcome.

The first ask is how everyone is doing. Virgil is nervous about how the ask blog will do. Roman is feeling glittery. Patton is doing fantastic. Remus ate a spoon. Janus is doing as well as he can. Logan is doing well.

Someone asks who can do a flip. Patton can flip a coin. Remus can do a flip and says he'll do it off the second floor. Virgil stops. Virgil will not do a flip either. Janus totally did a flip. Roman is confused but he can do a flip too. Logan only flips book pages.

Another asker brings up the possibilities of variants and universes. Logan is interested and want to meet them or at least see how many are there. Patton is excited at the thought of more kiddos and dads. Virgil hates that it means there's more Janus-es. Remus loves that there's more Janus-es. Before he says anything though, Janus cuts him off. Janus does not want to deal with multiple copies of the sides. Virgil agrees that one Remus is enough. Roman is excited at the thought of multiples of him, saying that's a lot of handsome and muscle. Virgil says Roman wouldn't be special. Roman is flattered that Virgil thinks he's special. Virgil moves onto the next question.

An anon who calls themselves "sugar anon" gives the boys some treats. Roman, Remus, and Patton gobble up as many as he can. Virgil, Janus, and Logan brace themselves for a long day and take some candy from the pile.

The sugar rush starts. Janus and Virgil try to wrangle the twins. Janus gets bit by Remus. Logan is back thinking about the variants again and what could be out there.

Virgil has Logan sitting down and helps him calm down, assuring him he's not missing out on anything and suggesting he test substances from Remus' realm. Janus brings Remus back and Remus admits he felt sick. Patton and Roman also have tummy aches.

Someone suggests to get Remy but Virgil declines, saying they'll be out soon. Patton asks why candy makes his tummy hurt. Logan says it's because he ate a lot. Roman says Virgil's spaghetti would never hurt him. Remus wants spaghetti. Janus laments about the fact that they can't have nice things. He then sneakily eats a piece of candy.

Someone else calls Virgil out on his flirting with Roman. Virgil denies that he was flirting. Roman's tummy still hurts and he's oblivious. Janus says he's tortured. Remus says he has it worse since Virgil is trying to get with HIS brother.

Someone suggests ginger and Janus goes to prepare it. The candy fiends asks for tummy rubs. Remus doesn't get tummy rubs because Janus is busy.

Soon Janus returns with tea. Roman and Remus mention doing pranks and stealing from Janus. Janus hears them but gives them tea anyways, telling them not to say he doesn't do nice things for him. Patton's just happy to have tea.

Someone else suggests a nap for the candy fiends. Janus assures that they'll be asleep soon. Virgil asks if there's something in the tea. Janus says there isn't and that he would never hurt the twins as well as that it takes a lot to sedate Remus. Virgil hates that he's partially right. Janus, Virgil, and Logan also have a piece of candy while the other three doze off.

The variant anon shares a rumor of what they've seen in the other universes. Such as a dark universe. They tell the boys to consider themselves lucky and that there are even rumors of a seventh side. Logan is intrigued but has never heard of a seventh side. Virgil is fine with six sides. Janus teases about a less edgy Virgil. Virgil refuses to be less edgy.

Someone says they look cute and cozy. Virgil says he's only making sure Roman onto the floor. He refuses to cuddle with Remus and Janus. Janus is making sure Remus stays settled down. Logan doesn't want to move or he'll upset Patton. No one is able to move while they're being cuddled. Virgil and Logan decide to hang out. Janus plans to clean and hoard candy once he's free from Remus.

Virgil, Logan, and Janus talk about their favorite sweets. Janus mentions apples and that there's a special apple he loves but can't get often. Janus starts acting weird and excuses himself to do some cleaning.

Virgil is asked about Janus' connection to apples. Virgil says Janus wouldn't tell him when he asked. He explains how Janus gets quiet when seeing a certain apple and the time he got angry at Patton for slicing what seemed to be a very golden delicious apple. Janus also refused to have a slice that day. Janus broods from the kitchen and listens as Virgil and Logan wonder where these apples came from.

Someone asks about their least favorite side. Janus and Virgil joke that their least favorite side. Though Janus thinks it's someone else for him. Logan says he could never hate any of the sides.

Someone asks about Janus and Virgil being on a deserted island. Virgil says Janus is resourceful but that he thinks he and Janus would kill each other sooner than later. Janus thinks he'll get sick of bugs and fish. Logan gets a chance to ramble about space.

Janus is asked what his favorite type of apple. Janus talks about green apples and golden delicious apples. His favorite apple is something different though and that it's rare, saying one should cherish it. Logan and Virgil talk about their favorite fruit and veggie.

Logan, Virgil, and Janus talk about meeting the shorts' characters. They've heard about it. They've met Remy and Roman likes him. Virgil considers Andy but doesn't want to give Thomas more anxiety. Logan has heard of a teacher character but questions his method.

The candy fiends wake up and Virgil catches them up on the last few questions.

Checking in on how everyone's feeling. Everyone feels better. Logan reminds Patton not to eat too much candy. Patton calls Logan smart and Logan blushes. Remus does not like them being sappy but he doesn't feel sick anymore. He wants to do something. He gets confused when Janus barely answers. Virgil tells Remus about the apple question. Roman is told about how Janus gets weird about apples.

The twins are asked about what they know with Janus and apples. Neither know anything apart from Janus going to the Imagination to get these apples. Roman has sensed Janus entering the Imagination but never saw him. Virgil says they should drop it as Janus looks uncomfortable. Logan is concerned.

Someone tries to guess the apple. Janus mentions that it was based on said apple while accidentally mentioning a 'he' in his answer. Janus then requests to change the subject. Roman is also concerned.

The sides talk about what they do at the end of the day. They hang out and bother each other or do things together like reading and gossiping. Janus and Roman like doing face masks.

Another apple question about the phrase 'apple of his eye' which Roman finds romantic. Remus hates that they're sappy again. Janus really doesn't want to talk about apples again.

The sides talk about who has the better music taste. No one comes out on top. They all have their own tastes.

The sides talk about what they do when not filming with Thomas. They just hang out in Thomas' head and do their own thing like working or scheming. Some visit each other and some see Thomas.

The sides talk about their favorite musicals and songs from it. It's followed by an asks about what their DND characters would be like from shapeshifting to orcs to paladins to magic users and alchemists.

Roman talks about his adventures such as getting lavender to make tea for Virgil or fighting the dragon witch. Or wrangling Remus' gremlins up. Roman then talks about the ravine separating his and Remus' side, not knowing where it came from. Someone asks Patton and Janus about the ravine. Patton knows as much as the twins. Janus knows more and he knows Patton knows more too. He's hesitant to tell the twins. When Roman begs, Patton interrupts and redirects the conversation. Roman is still curious.

The sides talk about their childhood. Janus says Remus was mischievous. Remus is proud and calls Virgil out for being a coward. Virgil calls Remus out for being afraid of thunder and hiding under the bed. Patton and Logan talk about how cute Logan was and how smart he still is. Roman admits he can't remember his own childhood. That it's a big blurry blank when he tries to think. There's barely any memories. before him waking up in the light side. Janus is watching Patton. Patton feels...guilty and doesn't know why.

Janus lets it slip that the ravine is connected to the twins. The twins didn't directly create it. Janus refuses to tell the twins for now within his own reasons. The ravine closing is a good thing though.

Someone suggests the twins to explore the ravine without telling Janus or Patton. Remus wants to go. Roman is tempted but worries about falling in or Remus jumping in.

[adamprrishcycle]

Okay, you want to talk Ronsey, you better buckle up! (This is going to be long, sorry!)

As the formerly known TRK Anon, I can confidently say that trc is still somewhat fresh in my mind, so I have lots of examples to support my argument. Now, given that I have only read the series once, my character analysis might not be as deep or intense as yours.

If you don't know already, I am a huge Gansey lover/supporter/follower/fan/worshiper/bitch. (Will Patton’s rendition of Gansey drives me absolutely feral!!!!) I have loved him since the very first time we know about his existence (Which is page 15 of TRB). If Gansey is part of the equation, I ship it! Bluesey, Ronsey, Declansey, Adansey, HELL…even Chengsey (I could care less about Henry, so the fact that I acknowledge this ship is a big gesture on my part) I just want to make it clear that I am not an Adansey hater, it's just not my kind of jam (*shrugs*)

I know that what Gansey means to me, Adam is to you. But Adam was tough for me. Like REAL TOUGH to discern. It was not until halfway through TRK (practically when Pynch becomes canon) that I was finally able to appreciate him, to see him eye to eye and say: You ARE knowable. I will give it to Adam, he has the best, most memorable, character growth/development in the entire series (Ronan being a close second). But his stubbornness during TRB/TDT was so unbearable to me. He was such a DICK to Gansey. And yes, there were instances when Gansey deserved it (like the hospital scene) but most of their interactions (at the beginning of the series) are somewhat tense. They are constantly walking on eggshells, afraid to trigger/offend/provoke the other. There are MULTIPLE references to them fighting pre-canon, mostly about money, occasionally about who owns who. The whole DC trip was so stressful for all parties involved. In fact, Adam was so unapproachable that Gansey and Blue kept their relationship a secret because of how difficult he had been back then. (Honestly, I think he would have unalive them both) Plus, he is a hypocrite (I guess we all are) because when the rent thing happens, he goes to Gansey first and throws a fit about it!! But when he finds out that Ronan actually paid his rent, he is “cool” about it. He doesn’t argue with him. He doesn’t feel offended. He just accepts it (it being both the money and the fact). The one thing that really upsets me is Adam wanting the favor for himself. I understand why he wants it, but he knows it is Gansey’s life purpose to find Glendower. It feels like a betrayal, you know? I just cannot stand people being mean to Gansey, it triggers me!!!!

And yes, I get it, there are some good moments between them. Like the call with Mallory when Gansey is trying to make Adam laugh. Or Adam fixing/diagnosing the pig. Or the two of them being ushers on Raven Day. But these moments are so…normal (mundane?) that they don’t feel special.

To me, Adansey is a somewhat “toxic” ship. It is a one-sided relationship, because Gansey gives and gives and Adam refuses to take. Adam practically (and literally) loathes? abhors? despises? everything that Gansey stands for (money, friendship, status, family, you get the gist). How can you possibly love someone that is the poster child of everything you hate?! I think Adansey would be the perfect ship for enemies to friends to lovers.

But Ronsey, oh my dear Ronsey!!!! To me, Ronsey is all about Gansey and Ronan meeting before Niall’s death. The way Gansey describes Ronan before his father’s death is so intoxicating. Gansey mourning the joyful boy that Ronan used to be. Gansey getting emotional over Ronan’s laugh. Gansey being completely and utterly amazed by Ronan’s dream creations (“You incredible creature”). Ronan being unconditionally devoted to Gansey. Ronan being devastated that Gansey has other friends; that Gansey is going to DC with Adam and not him. Ronan and Gansey. Gansey and Ronan. Maybe I am not making any sense right now because my brain convulses just thinking about these two.

They have been through it all. God, there are so many moments pre-canon that I wish we could get to experience. Can you imagine Gansey panicking at the hospital with Ronan’s blood in his hands? Can you imagine Ronan teaching Gansey how to punch?! I can’t remember if canon ever confirms how Gansey acquired his journal, but can you imagine if Ronan bought it for him!?!?!

@singersargentboi said it best: “The thing I love about Ronsey is that even in the books theres this sort of unhinged devotion between them that toes the line at being romantic/sexual.” Let’s unpack this together. Exhibit A) Kavinsky’s substance party. O.M.G. Gansey being such a deranged version of himself that even Ronan cannot stop smiling about it. (“What is it my dog needs?” JUST KILL ME ALREADY) Exhibit B) Ronan dreaming the keys to the Camaro in such a steamy delicate way that I am pretty sure he woke up with a tent in his pants. Exhibit C) Gansey bribing a full-grown adult for Ronan. Exhibit D) Gansey constantly scolding/disciplining/bossing Ronan and somehow stopping the Lynch brothers from killing each other. Exhibit E) Ronan going back home against his dad’s wishes, but still turns to Gansey for comfort (“Can I go and see mom?”) And if all of this does not convince you, I’ll leave you with this: “Gansey was far more of a brother to Ronan than Declan had ever been.”

However, I come to you with a peace offering, a secret third option: RODANSEY. Throughout the series it is constantly noted that 3 is the perfect number for magic ;)

THANK YOU FOR SPILLING YOUR THOUGHTS INTO MY ASK BOX 😍 this is delish and wow a HOT TAKE (to me, a simple woman who will live and die on the hill of adam parrish 🫶) although I understand your grievances from a protect-gansey-at-all-costs point of view! I think you’re right about them having the potential to be a toxic ship because of how much they fight. What’s funny to me is how it seems like they don’t understand each other… yet there’s at least 3 times in TRB alone where they communicate just by looking at each other which is amazing considering from what we know they have only been friends a few years but they’re that close and on that exact same level together. But then… they’re not. I think Adam has just had to rely on himself for so long that he can’t reprogram his brain to think differently, and gansey has had loving parents and a good sibling relationship and intense friendships therefore he can’t even begin to understand adam. They’re on diff planets right? They can’t relate to each other in any way shape or form. But then…. love comes along and makes it work??!??! This is why I’m an adansey girl.

BUT everything you said about ronsey…. That ferocious love I will never ever be over it ever 🥹 unhinged devotion is exactly right. And we all know the when I’m gone dream me the world quote but FOR ME it’s “he couldn’t say it, though. There were a thousand reasons why he couldn’t say it” like???? We were just supposed to move on from that? I can’t I wont.

(side note cuz I gotta defend my boy declan and say he is the best brother ever and I will not expand at this time bc spoilers but the dreamer trilogy will)

Rodansey…… now you’re talking my language. Truce? 🤝 thank u for this ask it’s made my day xx

[mitzyslatestobsessions]

watching the newest tss sketch and writing my thoughts as we go

SPOILERS FOR THE NEWEST SKETCH BELOW THE CUT

first off once again they are killing it

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE LOGAN WEARS WHITE SHOES

the glasses editing thing where they like. flash? idk how to describe it but yk what i mean. that is so fucking real

VIRGIL’S SEGMENT >>>

oh the prinxiety, logicality, and demus shippers are eating this up

ARE THEY PLAYING DDR???????? THAYS WHAT IM CHOOSING TO BELIEVE THEYRE DOING

logan (AGAIN) reading murder of roger ackroyd. does he ever get tired of reading it

atp i think it’s just blank pages

virgil petting his spider <3

THOMAS FUCK OFF TEASING US WITH ORANGE /LH

FUCK

CONFIRMING VIRGIL IS NEITHER LIGHT NOR DARK THAT SHIT FEELS GOOD

ofc it’s logan we have to shoehorn jam into it

the sour green apples (that thomas hates)

TJE END HELP

PATTON’S BOWL BEING ON FIRE IS SO IN CHARACTER

THEM STARGAZING IS SOMWTBING I DIDNT KNOW I NEEDED

okay i am done here are my final thoughts: truly very silly. i quite enjoyed. also if anyone knows how to read kanji someone should translate it. thank you bye mwah <3

[kieraelieson]

Me using the sides to vaguepost about my problems:

Thomas stands in front of the couch, his posture slumped.

“You said this wouldn’t happen!” Virgil yells at Logan. “We worked out the likelihood of different outcomes and you said this one was the least likely!”

Logan looks stunned, frozen. “It was least likely. There’s no way this should have happened. It’s logically impossible.”

Patton crumples, his eyes red from crying. “It could’ve been… we thought…”

Janus rises up, trying to help hold up Patton. “Thomas, it’ll be ok. As… brutal as the end of this chapter of your life has been, we’re now on the beginning page of the new chapter. We can put this behind us. Focus on the future.”

“The future?” Remus says, grinning maniacally. “You mean the future in which they’re plunged into pain and torture?”

Patton sobs, and Virgil hisses furiously at Remus.

“I hate to agree with the snake,” Roman says quietly. “But it’s actually possible that they’re relieved about it being over now too. I mean, it’s been months! Even with this outcome, everyone is… getting a break.”

Thomas breathes in slowly, his breath hitching. He struggles to blow the breath out. “I don’t know what we’re gonna do, guys. But for now.” He opens his arms, tears in the corners of his eyes. “Come here. I think we could all use a hug. Even you, Remus.”

Virgil is the most reluctant, but gradually they all gather together. And just hold each other. They aren’t falling apart. Not just yet.

[loganslowdown4]

Sanders Sides:

All In The Details! (2023/24)

Remus Disturbing Frame in DWIT + Filming for Incorrect Quotes 3!

Patton Frames Editorial Birthday Shoot (2024)

Janus Is Cold Blooded Confirmed

If Wes Anderson Directed Sanders Sides Details Part 1

If Wes Anderson Directed Sanders Sides Details Part 2

My Quotes (Incorrect Quotes Vol 3)

Logan’s Lip Bite (Crofters The Musical)

Janus Calling Logan Sweetie (Inside Out 2 reaction)

Theatre Adult/Roman’s Spot (10 Misconceptions About Me)

The Sushi Slip Up (DWIT)

Valerie as The Sides (Making Some Changes)

Twinning (Ro & Re Hand On Chest Looking Sad)

C!Thomas laughing reaction image (ROTB)

Rise of The Bloop Pics

Did Roman Regift His Nerd Socks

Thoughts On What Makes The Perfect Gift Part 1

Thoughts On What Makes The Perfect Gift Part 2

Sides Sweatshirt Design Easter Eggs

Orange Side Tease Thumbnail SvS Redux

Real/Fake Food Anime Detail (Delicious in Dungeon)

SvS Redux Lily Padton/He-Man Comparsion

The Bagel Joke Needs A 3rd (AOVD/SVS:R)

Janus Calling Patton ‘Honey’ SvS Redux

LilyPadton/Stardew Inventory SvS Redux Easter Eggs Part 1

LilyPadton/Stardew Inventory SvS Redux Easter Eggs Part 2

Do We Kiss Now Or… SVS Patton

Cartoon Therapy: Steamboat Willie Lego

2020 Livestream: Who’s Your Fave Side To Play

April 2024 Charity Livestream Summary

Patton/Atticus Finch Comparison (SvS)

THOMAS SANDERS/SANDERS SIDES EPISODES/ANNIVERSARIES/NAME REVEAL DATES LISTS!!

5 Shot Split in ATHD

SvS Redux Patton’s Blink-&-U-Miss-It Look at Virgil’s Spot

Virgil’s Shoe Laces (Skirt Look) Tutorial

Logan Detail from Make Assumptions About Me Vid

The Notebook/Logan Keeps Receipts Running Joke

Patton & Logan in FWSA

The ‘that’s what she said’ joke SVS

Janus’ Dramatic Lighting Throughout The Series

Bridgerton Short Janus Coat

That Time Janus Called Logan a Bitch (svs:r)

GRWM Janus Makeup Tutorial Thoughts

Food Pages Running Gag Shorts

Joan And That Activia Computer Gag (Shorts)

Roman Short Where Is The Love/Glam Makeup/Deserves a Proper GRWM

TTH The Box Poses

Logan’s Skirt Reshoot Thoughts

Roman Hates Mustaches (SVS REDUX)

Remus Drops A Hint (HAVE I GROWN)

Remus Sitting Comparison (WES ANDERSON SIDES)

Remus and His Cockroaches (WORKING THRU INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS)

Logan’s Onesie Has Wings?! (INCORRECT QUOTES 4)

Roman’s Editorial Look Makeup Question Answered

Thomas Giggling While Singing Oh Yeah (IQ4)

Patton’s Dad Moment ‘Calm Down Time’ (LNTAO)

Friendship Bracelets For Patton (CAN PLUSHIES IMPROVE OUR HEALTH)

Daddy (LNTAO; RISE OF THE BLOOPS)

The Different Offices Of Emile Picani

Logan Copying Roman’s Mannerisms To Be Dramatic (MOVING ON; DWIT)

Virgil Reacts To Inside Out 2 PART 1

Virgil Reacts To Inside Out 2 PART 2

What Roman Says About Virgil (VIRGIL REACTS)

Sleep Is The Eyelashes Meme (WHY IS SLEEP DIFFICULT?)

Sleep’s First Appearance Easter Egg (WHY IS SLEEP DIFFICULT?)

Remus And Roman Matching/Opposite Editorial Looks

Lego Movie Batman Reference (CARTOON THERAPY 3)

The Bagel Prophecy (CARTOON THERAPY 3)

SANDERS SIDES CHRONOLOGICAL EPISODE/ANNIVERSARY LISTS

ALL SIDES THEMED PHOTOS CHART

I Am The Walrus (SANDERS SIDES QNA)

Belle Love (ROMAN DISNEY TIERS)

Janus!Patton’s Smile (CLBG)

Janus As Scooby Doo (EMBARRASSING PHASES)

Dom Steals Roman’s Rhyming (ROMAN DISNEY TIERS)

Roman’s (and Dom’s) Disney Films Tier Ranking ALL THE DETAILS!

Rom & Dom moment/possible running joke? (MIND MELD OLD VS NEW FRIENDS)

Logan’s Glasses (MY TRUE IDENTITY)

Roman & Remus Twinning Outfits reoccurances

Roman Writing With His Right (MY JOURNEY ON YOUTUBE)

Called Sleep A Bitch (Because He Is) 😂 (MY CHARACTERS READ YOUR TWEETS)

Transcription Of Argument Between Core 4 (the best I could make out) (RETURN OF THE JAM)

The Liar Liar Test Joke Explained (SVS)

Roman Happy With His Jam (WHAT’S COMING UP EVERYBODY)

4th Anniversary & Flores/Coming Home Edit Explained (FWSA)

Roman’s Pillow Throne (ATHD)

Logan Looks Like Daredevil (NIGHTMARE BEFORE SPIRIT CHRISTMAS)

Nightmare Before Spirit Christmas Character Comparison Guide

Electric Company Head Turn Transition Cut (LNTAO)

BTS Roman’s Arm/Patton Pointing Jokes In LNTAO Raw Edit

BTS Patton Smiling In LNTAO Raw Edit

The Sides + Into The Unknown Lyrics (2nd Anniversary) (ITU)

Costume Redesign (S1 -> S2)

My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 1!

My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 2!

My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 3!

My Roommate Is Hades All The Details Part 4!

[pretty-aud-lady]

Ideally, this will be the beginning of more brief, chill reviews. I still have a good amount to say about other albums, but less tinfoil hat rants about character arcs and in-depth song-by-song reviews (until the underdark by funeral diner) 

The Jesus Lizard were around in the late 80s and early 90s and were one of the touch-and-go bands along with Slint and shellac. Most of their stuff was done with Steve Albini as well. They also did a split with nirvana, which is probably the most exposure they got. 

They came out of the ashes of a post-punk band called Scratch Acid, where the most unique part of The Jesus Lizard was first explored: David Yow's voice. He considers himself a vocal expressionist more than a singer, which shows in chunks of scratch acid. The band is much faster and more chaotic, and lacks the angular post-hardcore guitar of the Jesus lizard. They have a discography album called the greatest gift that's got some cool tunes. Crazy Dan, cannibal, and the title track are my favourites. 

When Duane Denison started to record and form a band, he tried to recruit David Yow on bass. Yow was smart enough to ask for the vocalist role, and brought his scratch acid band mate David Wm. Simms on for bass. Mac McNeill rounded off the band on drums after their first Ep. 

The Jesus Lizard sound is pretty easy to define, more so than the previous bands I reviewed. Their bass tone is heavy and proto-industrial, holding a great sharp but thick shape. When I think of a Fender Jazz bass, I think of this tone. It's often driving the songs with fierce riffs, rarely becoming boring strumming behind chords.The drums are precise and methodical, comparable to Brendan Canty from Fugazi. 

Duane's guitar work is noisy and angular, sometimes hiding on top as a texture and pivoting around the rhythm, other times smashing our face with riffs. He uses a Travis Bean guitar similar to Albini, and the tone shines here. Duane was also in a super group called tomahawk with the drummer of helmet and Mike Patton of Faith no More. Their song God Hates a Coward is fucking sick, highly recommend if you like The Jesus Lizard. 

Then, there's David Yow's voice. Awful, howling, expressive, screaming, shrieking, moaning, grunting, ranting. An album review of goat has stated that his delivery sounds like a kidnap victim with a gagged mouth shouting from the trunk of a car. 

Their sound (as some could infer) is perfect for the Steve Albini sound. Heavy, thick, and somehow so clear and crisp. It's the kind of music that makes you want to punch someone or two step but really heavily and slowly. Just filled with rage and badass tones, and brings forth a visceral feeling. I think it was a great transition from classic rock and stoner doom for me, maintaining a relatively dynamic-less “I think I'm cool” tone mixed with some bite, but with much more sloppy punk attitude. Also way more emotion on average, with Yow's delivery inspiring the shit out of me to this day. 

In a linear note for the album's tracking and recording, there's a room mic listed as being taped on Yow's forehead. I always wonder if that's what we hear in the background of monkey trick's bridge. 

Last thing I'll say before we get more into the songs: I've written a ~50 page, 20k word novella loosely based on this album. It's mostly just based on monkey trick's ominous lyrics, with each other song shoehorned for completionist sake and to try and make it a full length novella. It's about a small town that suddenly becomes abandoned overnight, with a David Lynch esque cut up and mostly irrelevant story exploring the residents experiences. It's kind of just a bucket of short stories that felt similar in tone, dark and comedic and grimy. If I'm prompted maybe I'll edit my work and publish it (but I know I won't be) 

The album opens in full force with Then Comes Dudley, the perfect song to showcase the band with. It kicks off with a driving mid tempo bass line and drums locked in together. The kick and snare sit right where you want them to in the bass line, and it just makes you want to stomp your feet while you walk. The guitar plays dissonant semi tones shifting around on top. It's broken by an amazingly creepy guitar at one point, then a two chord stop before the guitar drops out for a verse on top of that main riff. Halfway through that verse the guitar jumps in with delayed palm muted notes following the bass and it's so simple but so sick with the sharp Travis bean tone. 

David Yow is talking about a despicable couple and someone who is going to fuck them up. The chorus makes no sense to me, some have suggested it's about vegetarianism. His moans and grunts in this song are sick. The chorus is the same main riff, but the first time sparkled with some sick staccato guitar chords at seemingly random off times. 

Mouthbreather might be their most popular song besides puss from the nirvana split? At least that's what I gathered when I surfaced from my cave of obscurity to mingle with more normal human beings. 

The guitar opens up with a sharp angular riff that just slides between C and C#, playing power chords and 4ths. It's got a bit of a weird time, with some fun stops that make it sound bouncy. The drums help the song kick ass as always, having this badass feeling. When testosterone ran through my veins and it wasn't killing me, this stuff got my blood pumping so fucking hard. 

The lyrics are about Britt Walford from Slint. He took care of Steve Albini's house one time when he was still a teenager, and the house was in disrepair when he came back. Apparently he locked himself out and would climb in and out via an upstairs window, and pipes spilled piss and shit onto Steve's drumset. Yow's howl of “I leave my home” is great. 

Nub is maybe my second least favourite song on the album? The guitar is all done with a slide, giving it a weird ZZ Top vibe. The bass line before the first chorus while Yow just seethes is my favourite part. The lyrics are partially in French and about someone losing their arm sticking it out a moving car. How's that ghost limb? Wicked. 

Seasick is fun for Yow's vocals and hits hard as hell at first, but gets old really quickly. Palm muted open E broken by some diminished G chords, I could've written this as my first song. Yow's shouts and moans and squeals are sick, especially in the bridge. Awful that we have to sit through so many “I can't swim”s to get there. Lyrics are basic as hell but service the song well. There's a live video of them performing this where David Yow dives headfirst into the crowd the moment the drums kick in, and when he returns to the stage he gets clocked in the head by a beer bottle that shatters and collapses to the stage - but still finishes the performance. 

Monkey Trick is “the best song ever written in the entire history of the cosmos, ever,” according to the band, and I tend to agree. It's definitely the best song of theirs by a mile. It opens with a D sharp power chord 8 times, but the drums play a straight kick and crash for the first 4, then introduce a snare-kick-snare-snare pattern for the last four. Then the bass line starts. It rides a low C, chugging a staccato off beat rhythm, broken at the end of two bars by a climb up to F sharp. The drums kick in, a barely closed high hat on slow eight notes with a pair of kicks on 1 and 3, and a kick-snare on 2 and 4. It’s a quite simple blues beat behind an otherwise off kilter bass, something I personally would have never come up with. Simple, powerful, elegant. The guitar glides on top with two semitones, one pair a slide and the other two ringing out in dissonance together. The hook introduces a single note line on the guitar with sharp two note stops, while the bass and drums hold a similar position as the verses. David Yow merely speaks over this before the two note chords repeat and swell back to the D sharp chords from the beginning, accompanied with a shrill shriek from Yow. That shriek was the moment my heart began to crave OLTH without knowing it. 

The verse is the same opening bass riff, but the guitars clang in with some dissonant chords before playing the paired semitones. Yow howls the same line twice, ending the second repeat with a shriek. We get another spoken hook with a different vocal pattern that will be mirrored in the final hook. He whines and howls his way through the end of these hooks in confusion. 

Verse two hits us with the bassline and Yow mumbling at us uneasily and violently. This erupts into some wide guitar chords and a more flowy open passage with more spoken word that is unevenly doubled, creating more confusion. It ends with a whispered “here” Sucking the open chords back in, hitting us with that bassline and dual semitones again. Believe it or not, we're not sick of that rhythm. It still rocks and begs us to let rage boil our circulatory system. 

AN ABSURD GAG, A MONKEY TRICK. AN IRISH BULL, A CHILDISH JOKE 

The words are spit at us violently, the joke shrieked, and out from behind it Duane's guitar plays a high face melting lead akin to black metal tremolo picking but with two notes fighting for extra dissonance. The drums and bass lock in adding extra volume and flair behind the leads.

This cuts to a single guitar chord played on off eighth notes with violent upstrokes while Yow screams in pain over and over again. Ow, ow, OWW!! the drums play solid eighth note kicks and quarter note crashes and lock in on 2 and 4 with the snare to center us. Once in a while Yow gets quieter and lower, then awakens with more pain. The guitar does two quick full tone slides to break it up at one point. Sick. 

Final chorus, body parts all in over this town, what are they doing! 

The lyrics? I have no fucking clue. Or 50 pages worth of clues, I don't know. Read them yourself and determine a whole new 50 pages worth of meaning. You tell me what they're doing. 

Karpis is a prison r*pe joke played very strangely. A carton of smokes for ten minutes of pleasure, if I cannot have you nobody will. Feel that there? I shaved my ass. Come here boy. Not sure what's going on, is the joke that Alvin's paying the smokes to GET fucked? I think it's just an excuse for Yow to scream Nooo again and again while they get to be edgy and laugh. The guitar line of the verse is fun to play, and the choruses are pretty heavy. The bridge is a weird time, something rare for them. 

South mouth kinda just sucks honestly. The main riff is fun and bouncy but not in the “I'll kick your ass” tone the rest of the album has. “hey sometimes we act like animals, and we act sometimes like little girls” I like the little bridge at the end where he kinda mumbles “hey sometimes” on some colorful guitar chords. 

Lady shoes was both the worst and best part of the novella to write. Lyrically it's about a messed up dream Yow had. A girl plays a piano while her mother gives her an enema. Then the dad comes in and does what everyone seems to do in this song, masturbate. Meanwhile, a nurse in a maternity ward kills all the babies with a big fucking sledgehammer. She shouts at the doctor “look what I've done” the doctor jerks off in his cap. Then a hotel manager comes by and takes a shit in his hand and puts it on like lipstick. Hope this helps. 

Instrumentally it's actually pretty interesting. A very surfy low E tremolo picked, with seemingly random changes to an F sharp and G that catch you off guard. When Yow does vocals on it he's real obnoxious and loud and muffled. It's broken on one end with big power chords strummed for half notes with Yow speaking. On the other side it's broken by some weird angular leads with the maternity ward stuff and some cool bass. 

Rodeo in Joliet is my second favourite song on this, but only because it barely belongs. The almost ALMOST clean sounding arpeggios on the first two riffs are so colourful and interesting, in an odd 6/4 we haven't heard this album. Hard to avoid using the word angular, goddamn. The drums do really engaging stuff too, avoiding snare for the first half of progression one then throwing in off kilter snares for the second half. Progression two locks in much more with a high hat and two distinct chords, with less strings ringing out all at once. This breaks into some strummed chords that upstroke closed with the snare on 4 of the 6/4 meter. Yow does his thing, which is quite fun on this song. Especially when it leads to him screaming “the gray!” when the chords break into distorted single note arpeggios rather than ringing out picked chords. Some other really weird stuff happens especially near the end that make a determinable layout harder to picture. End scene. 

Sick album. Lyrically and thematically shallow compared to the previous reviews, and the instrumentation is much less dynamic, but still fun and emotional - just in a less introspective way. It's on repeat way less for me, especially with estrogen making anger less appealing. I love the angular, sharp tones and punctual rhythms, and still love to digest a taste of this tone when mixed in with more joliet-esque low chill chord sections. Ultimately, it was the third of four albums that really helped me get into newer genres and made me approach music in a vastly different way. 

The old windbag blows

[ts-janus-rp-blog]

"You don't think so? Just confused? Well... I would've given him enough reason to hate me, won't I? Considering from the moment I met him I was a complete asshole to him and treated him like shit... I won't blame him for hating me. And, well, I hate Virgil too so I'm glad we're on the same page." Remus huffed, and then he went quiet for a moment.

"... I don't know why... But Patton... There's something...different about this hybrid... When it comes to Janus, I could punch him, I could treat him like dirt, and I never felt a single thing... But Patton... Whenever I think about treating him the same way... I feel...bad? Sad? I feel something and I stop it... But why? Why do I feel that way towards a damn hybrid, of all people!" Remus grumbled, "Emotions are fucking annoying..."

Patton knocked desperately at the strangers door, praying someone, anyone was home. His heart beat as fast and loud as the rain thundering against the sidewalk. He was sure he was being followed, they were going to catch him. They were going to drag him back. He wasn't sure if whoever lived here might be worse, but he was willing to risk it at this point. Anything to escape.

{@moralpuppylover2}

Janus didn't know who would be at the door. It was late, but his master won't surely be home at this time. He normally doesn't get home until the sun starts to come up.

So, as the dog hybrid walked up to the door and opened it, he wondered who it could be. And if he should open it at all... Who knows, he may get in trouble with his master for opening the door. But, his curiosity was getting the better of him-

He stopped when he saw the soaking wet cat standing at the doorway. He could tell that this cat needed help almost immediately. Well, if his poor state of clothes were anything to go by. His eyes flickered up and down the sidewalk before he grabbed pattons arm and pulled him inside.

"are you alright?" Janus nervously asked as he grabbed a towel from the mud room. "Well, that's a stupid question, of course you're not alright! Are you...running away from your owners?" As Janus walked, the collar around his neck would jingle loudly. And even though it was cold outside and even in the house, he only had a pair of boxers on. Because of that, Patton would be able to see the numerous large scars that covered his body...and the countless amounts of fresh bruises.

@moralpuppylover2

[golden-songbird]

i strongly believe that patton sanders, fans of patton sanders, and the general attitude towards patton sanders says A LOT about modern fandom “culture” and how toxic and uncreative it is becoming.

just to preface this post is absolutely no hate to thomas sanders. he’s an amazing creator and he can’t control how his fans interpret his work. moving right along!

in many fandoms, there are archetypes (typical roles that characters in media play), and there is nothing wrong with an archetype until the fandom prioritizes archetypes over characterization. a surface level example would be something like “prince charming from cinderella is a kind, sensitive man who doesn’t have the most common sense, but he’s got a big heart and a lot of love to share. but instead of creating fan work or headcanons or “kinning” that character with/because of those traits, the fandom just sees him as the one who saves cinderella. the savior. and that’s it.”

the big, number one archetype that modern fandoms have developed is “the uwu, smol, soft bean who is so innocent and can do no wrong.” an amplified and much more annoying version of the professional term “ingenue”. an ingenue (or ingenu) is a character in media who is very young and innocent, and tends to make big mistakes as a result of their youth and innocence. romeo and juliet are ingénus. anne shirley cuthburt is an ingénue. i like to argue that roman sanders is an ingenu but that’s a story for another time.

the difference between the “smol soft bean” and the ingenue is that it is clearly established in media that the ingenues are in the wrong, and despite their youth and innocence, their mistakes are present, front and center, and it is obvious to all that they’re in the wrong. of course, it isn’t always black and white. ingenues have been coerced by outside forces, or they’ve had turbulent pasts that have caused them to not know any better, but it is generally understood that these things are explanations. not excuses.

when fans talk about their “smol soft beans”, there is generally an attitude of superiority when it comes to them. “no no, that’s my wittle cinnamon role, they could never be a bully/abuser! they’re so clearly innocent and sweet!” when that character has indeed said and done awful things to others repeatedly. “my smol soft bean is always the victim and everyone else is always mean to them!” when that character clearly is not always the victim and is being mistreated by other characters as a form of retaliation or breach of trust. oftentimes, the modern fandom’s perception of a character overrides the actual actions of the character in the canon and i will explain why that’s problematic in the next paragraph.

this worlds generation has a huge, giant, collective victim complex. but it’s only natural. that’s just what happens when people go on the internet and see all of these “smol soft beans” being protected and adored, and their mistakes are being ignored. everybody wants that. deep down, everybody wants their mistakes to be erased, and for only the very best parts of them to be on display at all times. so they infantilize themselves, trying to make themselves act and look sweet and innocent and cute, so that way, they can never admit to being wrong. it’s a very imitatable behavior. one that people can emulate easily. and people do.

by now, you all may be like “but ez, what does this have to do with patton?” well, everything. patton is generally seen as the “smol soft bean” archetype in the sanders sides fandom, even though he has done an array of terrible things. here are just a few:

- he regularly ignores and teases logan, endlessly taunting the one singular vocabulary mistake logan made because he thinks it’s funny to make logan look stupid when intelligence is his entire livelihood.

- he guilt trips roman relentlessly and coerced him into making a huge mistake (choosing the wedding), and then when they all faced the consequences of roman’s mistake, patton distanced himself from it, and pretended like it was all roman’s fault that it even happened.

- he was one of remus’ biggest haters, insisting constantly on pressing him down and pretending he doesn’t exist. while all the sides essentially were remus haters (except eventually logan), patton was clearly the most prominent one.

- he infantilized virgil, even when virgil told him he was uncomfortable. he gave a false apology that he didn’t actually act upon, and he made virgil feel small.

again, that’s only a few, but those are some of the biggest ones. oftentimes, the fandom just IGNORES that these things ever happened, or gloss over them, even though they’re some of the most important lessons in the entire sanders sides storyline. people refuse to acknowledge such important truths because they want patton to be a “smol soft bean who does no wrong and is so innocent”.

and patton kinnies tend to take it a whole new level because they’re seeing this character that is being infantilized and reduced to nothing but the sweetest little gumdrop and deciding “i want to be that.” so they say that they kin patton without accepting the mistakes he’s made, or his controlling and abusive tendencies. they want to distance themselves from his mistakes, but capitalize on his innocence, which is an unhealthy way to look at things.

everyone makes mistakes. everyone is in the wrong. nobody is perfectly innocent.

and that’s why i hate patton sanders, the fandom’s attitude towards patton sanders, and pretty much all patton kinnies (unless they’re open about the completeness of pattons character).

please don’t dox me. thanks.

[theultimatenonbinarynerd]

An Important Psa 3

Tw: Talk About Side Hate, Fandom Negativity, Mild Negativity To The Sides!

P.s this is just my opinion respect it

Ok can't believe I have to make a third one but it's been brought to my attention there are a lot of character hate pages here on Tumblr and yes I class unsympathetic pages as hate pages as it basically is implying that you think that the character is canonically unsympathetic. Here in the Sander Sides Fandom, we are all about passion and love.

It's ok to hate or dislike a certain character but have you no shame, Thomas is on Tumblr and other social medias. To see people actively make a dedicated page to how much they hate that character from sander sides that Thomas created would crush him.

You call yourself a fan yet you viciously attack the characters that Thomas created, the unsympathetic sides must be hard enough for Thomas to avoid but seeing these hate pages would just upset him, he's put so much hard work into developing these characters and he still is doing. Hate pages are not truly a part of this fandom. If you were really part of this fandom you wouldn't be dissing the hard effort Thomas has put into developing these characters. If you want to be a true fander stop hating on Thomas's creations and maybe make a support page for your favourite character?

Criticism posts are fine as long as you don't tag them as unsympathetic. However, hate pages is a big no-no. You don't support Thomas you want to actively hate on the characters that Thomas wanted to use to inspire love not vicious aggressive hate. I've now had a look at all character hate pages apart from Remus and they are all disgusting.

Roman- Ok the Roman pages make me wanna puke not only do people encourage it and ask someone to make one but they actively bash on Romans character calling him a bully. Also, one page compared their own personal experience to Roman at laughing at his name. Do not relate that to real life, Thomas had no intention to make it like that. When Roman insults someone it's because he's lashing out. The Roman hate pages bash Roman as unsympathetic when he's not. Hmm ooo, wait yeah he's getting to the end of his arc this season. So your gonna bash Roman and ignore the fact that Thomas has been furiously working to develop his character. Sure Roman was wrong to laugh but he will feel guilty. These hate pages take part in the moral that Roman isn't allowed to have flaws.

Remus is so lucky I couldn't find a hate page.

Patton- How the heck does Patton have so many hate pages im sorry do you have a problem with a character who just wants to make everyone feel included. Yes, how he treats Logan and Roman is unfair but some hate pages wishing Patton didn't exist, wishing Patton is miserable is not ok at all. Patton is supposed to recognize innocence, are you saying Patton isn't allowed to flaws. He's morality folks hate to break it to you but he represents how we are all still learning what's right and wrong throughout or life. Why is there so much Patton hate, he's supposed to represent breaking away from the black and white views of religion. Like Roman he's being developed by Thomas, Thomas worked so hard to give Patton development in the redux and your gonna trash on it. Yes Patton was wrong in the original page but he will learn eventually.

Virgil- Now Virgil isn't my favourite but im not gonna trash on him just because he has flaws. Thomas has worked really hard to develop Virgil and is still developing. Like the other pages, the Virgil haters make some active good points but fail to see how Virgils main arc is over but he's actually getting Romans mini-arc. Yes, the days we're you all hated on Roman pre accepting anxiety. The two characters are swapping arcs, Virgil is going to learn to be nicer and accept that he isn't the only dark side that deserves acceptance. Virgil was lying in the puzzle song, he's still lost but will find his way. Virgil will get better Thomas has developed him so much and haters he will develop. Like the Roman haters, you need patience.

Logan- Pft seriously people the hate pages for Logan literally call him an emotionless robot. That is not ok like the other haters you're ignoring the why on why that certain character acts that way. Logan probably feels threatened by Roman because he didn't get the career choice he wanted for Thomas. Logan absolutely cares, he tries to help Thomas in his own unique way. Again you suggest Logan isn't allowed to have flaws. Logan is a hypocrite he represses how he fails because the others interrupted and insulted him unintentionally. He thinks being emotionless will help him not be hurt when Thomas doesn't ask for help from him. Like Roman, he's not expressing himself in a healthy which comes out in a way that can unintentionally hurt the others. Logan is at the beginning of his arc and Thomas has so much planned for Logan so patience and try to think about the time's Logan has tried to help.

Janus- Now to all those Janus hate pages I understand im mad that he clapped back and failed to understand why Roman was acting that way but I know something you don't, Janus is developing. People we hardly know Janus it's way too soon to judge him or his actions do not babify him like he has no flaws. And do not actively bash him for having flaws. Thomas has so much plans to help us get to know Janus as a character. Yea the 180 was sudden but soon we will understand Janus. Stop presuming you know Janus when you don't the character has only had the spotlight for three episodes. Patience and remember that both Janus and Roman were wrong.

In conclusion, stop spreading hate in this fandom but if you don't want to stop the hate turn it into negativity pages so Thomas knows. I shouldn't interact with these people they don't like the characters im developing.

Amen

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@lowkey-logan @logansandersprotectionsquad @logansandersfanclub

@janus-is-an-adorable-snek-boi @janussanderscult @decietsanders

@misconceivedcapricorn @roman-sanders-appreciation-blog @royalprinceroman

@patton-deserves-the-world @pattonpattoff @pattonsandersrpblog

@virgilsandersstuff @virgilsanders @virgilappreciation

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Masterlist

OC dossier

Tobey’s Community Service (COMPLETE)

Synopsis: as penance for the many times his robots have destroyed the city, Tobey’s community service is to teach the basics of robotics to children. (This is a WordGirl fanfic.)

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Ghost Hunters Series (COMPLETE*)

Synopsis: two boys go ghost-hunting in an abandoned, dilapidated mansion and stumble across something amazing that changes their lives. (Based on a series of artworks by @shyticklemonster and listed in reading order.)

Ghost Hunting

Ghostly Vengeance

Ghost Tricks

A Taste Of Halloween Candy

*I will add to this series if @shyticklemonster makes more artworks for me to base my writing on.

The Offer of a Lifetime (COMPLETE)

Synopsis: Hero and Sidekick stumble across a superpowered civilian and recruit them into the team. There’s just one problem: they don’t want to.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

High School (COMPLETE)

Synopsis: Frustrated by their behaviour, Superhero turns Hero and Villain into teenagers and sends them to high school to learn some important life skills.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Glitter (COMPLETE)

Synopsis: Hero has always been a guy’s guy. That is, until he gets assigned the girliest female sidekick to ever live. The worst part is, it’s beginning to rub off on him, and that could spell disaster for his image! What’s a guy to do?

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Part 7

Part 8

Part 9

STEM Kids Shenanigans (COMPLETE)

Synopsis: When the principal of Marbleton Secondary School created a STEM club for the best and the brightest, she expected prestige and respectability to come to the school. When the students heard about it, they expected it to be filled with nerds.

But the four members of the club find themselves making tight friendships and awesome inventions. They also find themselves in a war with the most relentless prefect to ever be a prefect.

Chapter 1: Making STEM Club

Chapter 2: Introductions

Chapter 3: Change

Chapter 4: Spice

Chapter 5: Trinkets

Chapter 6: Parent Observation Day

Chapter 7: Study Group

Chapter 8: Subtle Messages

Chapter 9: The Unseen

Chapter 10: Day Of The Pink

Chapter 11: Connections

Chapter 12: Slime

Chapter 13: Surveillance

Chapter 14: Public Opinion

Chapter 15: Flight

Chapter 16: Front Page Fallout

Chapter 17: Paint

Chapter 18: Melanie’s Cousin

Chapter 19: Bird’s Nest

Chapter 20: A Very Grounded Young Man

Chapter 21: Adult Supervision

Chapter 22: Matching Patches

Chapter 23: Gloves

Chapter 24: Layla’s Plants

Chapter 25: The Other Secondary School

Chapter 26: The Hated One

Chapter 27: Monitoring Melanie

Chapter 28: Feral Newspaper Hound

Chapter 29: Acting Out

Chapter 30: Bugged

Chapter 31: Checking In

Chapter 32: Stephan’s Black Book

Chapter 33: Engineered Dramatics

Chapter 34: Talking To The Sainsbury Girls

Chapter 35: Stashed Secrets Spilled

Chapter 36: Principal’s Office

Chapter 37: Celebrity and Confessions

Chapter 38: Apologies

Chapter 39: Unwanted Appearances

Chapter 40: A Proper Conclusion

The Poisoned Prodigy (COMPLETE)

Synopsis: When normal Vincent Song is invited to his best friend’s school’s end-of-year awards ceremony, his only real worry is whether or not his brother’s old tux will fit him. But when said best friend, Renaissance boy Patton Reynolds, collapses at the podium after drinking some tainted water, it’s obvious that he was poisoned.

Patton names someone just before he passes out and at first, it seems like the genius solved his own murder attempt. But something’s not right. It’s up to Vincent, described by his own brother as ‘the lamest teenage boy in the world’ to navigate a world of geniuses to find the true culprit and get true justice for his best friend.

Chapter 1

Chapter 2

Chapter 3

Chapter 4

Chapter 5

Chapter 6

Chapter 7

Chapter 8

Chapter 9

Chapter 10

Chapter 11

Nerd Juvie (IN PROGRESS/ON HIATUS)

Synopsis: Marco, a troubled yet gifted young man, gets sent to the Lazarus Institute after getting caught drag racing on a bike that he made himself. The Lazarus Institute is a rehabilitation centre run by Dr Bertram Lazarus especially for gifted teenagers on the wrong side of the law, and for a while, it seems like everything is looking up. But when Marco stumbles across sinister plans for the residents, he is forced to question everything. Is Dr Lazarus the benevolent man everybody believed him to be?

Chapter 1

Chapter 2

Chapter 3

Chapter 4

Primary Objective: Friendship (IN PROGRESS)

Alexis’ life was going pretty normally until her Uncle James introduced her to Project Nikola, the robot he had made. When Nikola expresses a desire to go to school, James enrols him into the school Alexis goes to . . . and chaos ensues.

Chapter 1: Meeting Nikola

Chapter 2: School Enrolment

Chapter 3: School Shopping

Chapter 4: Nikola’s First Day

Chapter 5: Mom v Robot

And here are the spinoffs:

Hand Holding

A Robot’s Family

Choosing Names

The Sibling Talk

Unnamed Creators (Part 1)

Unnamed Creators (Part 2)

Research Video Logs

Maintenance Visit

What Doesn’t Go To Plan

Digital Debut

Air Jail

Nature Watch

Everybody’s Favourite (COMPLETE)

Neglected!Y/N Yandere Batfam series. When neglected!Y/N Wayne gets abducted by the Penguin, they expect things to be resolved fairly quickly. But the ransom everybody was expecting never comes, and Penguin decides to just . . . keep them. It wasn’t like their family ever wanted them back.

When the Batfam learns of this, a frantic search occurs across Gotham. It’s time Y/N Wayne learned what it was like to be everyone’s favourite.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Part 7

Part 8

Part 9

Part 10

Part 11

Part 12

Part 13

Part 14

Silver Swan (IN PROGRESS)

Neglected!Y/N yandere Batfam series. You’re sick of being left out of all the fancy events, but you always thought you weren’t invited; you basically had no media presence. But when you find a bunch on invitations to previous events stuffed in a bookcase, you decide that that’s the last straw. They don’t want to be seen with you? Fine.

Silver Swan will be gatecrashing all future events.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5