#patt x tai

[heretherebedork]

So the connection between Patts and Tai has been going on forever. Even when he wasn't talking him through the rain they were still communicating and Patts was still the one to save him from his own silence and from his own pain and he was one of the reasons Patts felt so much compassion and love for other people even while he was dating Nara.

Soulmates aren't a thing of destiny, soulmates are the people who make in our life that matter. Soulmates are the people we find who change our lives regardless of the connection or how you met or whether you've seen each other's faces or heard each other's voices.

Soulmates are made. Soulmates are the people who love you and who you love in return. Soulmates may not be chosen but they are not destined either. Soulmates are just another expression of love.

(That the connection was there the entire time, that this is why Tai has been talking about this whole time when he says someone anonymous saved his life, that it was Patts and that their love and their connection has had nothing to do with the rain but rather everything to do with them is beautiful.)

[nagumoshoma]

Let's get some sleep. Here?

LA PLUIE THE SERIES (2023)

[liyazaki]

boyfriends 💙💛

LA PLUIE THE SERIES | EPISODE 8

[wanderlust-in-my-soul]

Hands off. He's mine.

[riggerbison]

#fuck them glasses, i don't need to see

[oyeicher]

Could you give me a chance to get to know you better?

La Pluie Episode 4

[boyslovesource]

🥰🥰🥰🥰

[respectthepetty]

@plantsarepeopletoo, I never mind a colors question!

TLWR: I've thought Lomfon was a Green Guy who would develop his color as his feelings evolved (people's true colors surfacing and all that jazz).

Last week, before entering the finale, I recapped my thoughts:

Patts is a solid dark blue

Tai is a lighter blue with stripes but hiding his yellow

Tien is yellow (and orange) - Some said he was also carrying some blue which was due to his brotherly connection to Tai and the finale said that was right!

Lomfon is green

So the reason I brushed off Lomfon wearing blue was because he was attracted to Tai, who is a Blue Boy. He was attempting to pick up Tai's color.

But the reason I've always believed Lomfon was an uncover Green Guy was because 1) we originally saw Lomfon in green (with that cream shirt which is close to Tien's yellow)

and 2) every time the hard-coded brothers were around him, they picked up green, which was NOT their own color,

especially Tien, who had the strongest feelings for Lomfon; therefore, he would be involved in a color exchange.

Lomfon was allergic to color AND his feelings, yet the more he hung out with Tien, the more his green showed up; then, when he realized his true feelings, the green was front-and-center

And that carried over into the finale.

My thoughts:

For a guy who didn't believe in predetermined soulmates, he wouldn't want to abide by the rules of color-coding, which is basically a predetermined color. He is logical, and feelings aren't logical, so as his feelings started to emerge, so did his color. He can't control his color nor his feelings. Tien, who liked him, picked up on Lomfon's color quickly because Tien took the time to examine his feelings, which is also why Tien and Tai end up in yellow/blue because they realized even if they have a soulmate (and a predetermined color), they still have a choice.

But Tien is still yellow in his heart and head with that "Sunshine on My Mind" saying on his shirt

EDIT: I think even the teacher was rooting for Lomfon and Tien.

[syrena-del-mar]

La Pluie: A Tale of Tender Hearts

It's already been a week since La Pluie has ended and I'm still left in awe of how unsuspecting this show was presented and just how lovely it turned out to be. I tend to have the attention span of a gnat when it comes to shows that I consume, but La Pluie has been different. Starting with the cameo of Nora Robert's MacKade Brothers, I find that La Pluie has challenged me to look beyond what meets the eye at first glance and really engage with the message that they are attempting to convey. La Pluie asks you to watch the characters challenge their own beliefs while also challenging your own beliefs of the romance tropes they utilize.

Love in media is always romanticized and dramatized as something that is designed by the stars and predesignated in fate. In a world in which La Pluie takes place, it makes sense why people want to believe in the notion that the one you can hear is your soulmate. Humans are bound to creating answers out of what is unknown and confusing. La Pluie uses all the world-building that they established to subvert the notion of a destined love and instead utilized it to emphasize the active and deliberate choice to love someone and maintain a relationship, even when you're faced with challenges. They subverted the 'stars aligned' trope to show that love is an intentional commitment and ongoing effort, no amount of destiny is going to be sufficient to keep a relationship alive.

I think another running theme, though mostly in the undercurrent of the show, is that any form of love without work just ends up hurting all parties involved. La Pluie, for all intents and purposes, is a romance drama, but they allowed themselves to show so many different types of love. Love is often wrapped up in the idea of consisting solely of eros, and this is especially true in any romance drama, but La Pluie did such a good job at depicting different forms of love. And how they all take the conscious effort to keep the love alive, whether it be romantic, friendly, or familial. Each of these forms of love take a shit ton of work and effort to cultivate and keep safe, without it misunderstandings brew and resentment grows.

If episode 11 really focused on that for familial love, this final episode really continued to cement that message into the relationships of our main four. Lomfon stuck to his guns and publicly professed his feelings through his project, but a starry-eyed edited collage does not mean anything and Tien essentially states as such. Saengtien didn't let himself have hope until Lomfon verbally stated that he was in love with him. Lomfon, who used to be a bit proud, finally learned how to fully communicate. It was a long journey and he fucked up more than once, but he made the effort and he grew as a person from his mistakes. Their whole arch from frenemies to friends to lovers was weaved through the show. Their development depended on how they communicated and if they were even able to communicate. You can't start any relationship, whether friendship or more, if you can't learn to communicate.

Lomfon's biggest fuck-up came from the lack of communication, he expressed vague ideas to Saengtien, but was never nearly as forward as he was in the final episode. He learned his lesson at the cost of his relationship with Tien, both romantically and as his friend. He even warns Tien that he'll show him through his actions as well, and he does. Meanwhile Tien, who has been sidelined his whole life, has finally found his own place of comfort in Lomfon. As I've seen @bengiyo say multiple times throughout his reviews, there's no magical dick that will solve ones problems, and that rings true here. Saengtien will always be one to willing self-sacrifice in order to protect those that he loves, but this time around Lomfon will be there to look out for him. To have his best interests and welfare at heart. There's finally someone in his corner.

Saengtai... Oh Saengtai, I had such a love-hate relationship with his character because he was so finnicky and frustrating throughout the whole show. That signifies that both La Pluie and Title did a good job, because I don't necessarily believe that he was supposed to be a loveable protagonist. We finally get full-blown development from him, and he for once becomes pro-active in his life. It came full circle that Tai had to utilize both his words and his actions to salvage his relationship with Patts, after shunning him out for years. Now without the soulmate connection to assist, Tai has to put in the work to locate Patts.

It was never the lack of love that was the problem in their relationship, it wasn't even that their love was flimsily based on a notion of soulmates, but rather Tai had to unlearn his self-absorbed tendencies for Patts. A relationship won't survive in the long-term if it's one party that gives and gives, especially not when Patts has reiterated the need for Tai's affirmation of their love and relationship. This time, it finally clicked for Saengtai that he needs to communicate his care. Actions may speak louder than words, but if you're conducting yourself in a manner that is contradictory (even with the best intentions), those actions are obscured. Patt's needed that verbal confirmation and Tai finally learned how to give it. They love each other beyond the soulmate bond, they love each other because they choose to do so.

Tai finally came to that realization and understanding because he was forced to face the reality of his own parents and their bond. Saengtai was a traumatized kid of divorce who had their same ailment, it's not crazy that his understanding of love was shaken. He just didn't realize that there was no loss of love between his parents, their love had just taken on a different form. His parents loved each other, but they knew that they weren't good for each other. Priorities had changed and expectations clashed, their separation was a choice to salvage their love. The catalyst of his initial questioning of the soulmate bond brought him the answer that he needed to hear after destroying his own bond. Love is work. Love will always be work. It just depends on you to choose to work with it.

This show will always be a memorable one for me. It probed on ideas that romance shows and novels tend to shy away from, glossing over the fact that no relationship can survive without work. Love is a choice. We will never know if the choice we make will work things out or if it'll cause us the pain that we want to shield ourselves from, but without making that choice, we seclude ourselves. We rob ourselves of experiences in fear. Instead of fantasizing about allowing destiny leading us to who we love, we need to take control. People aren't simply meant for each other, they work to become meant for each other.

La Pluie is more than just another romantic BL, as the story unfolds, it allowed us (the viewers) to witness every single characters' journey of self-discovery, vulnerability, and gradual understanding of what it means to love and be in love. It's not a high stakes drama and it was never meant to be, instead from the first episode we were made aware that this was a show that was going to challenge deep-seated beliefs of the characters. In a world that was built around such a otherworldly, fictional disease, it allowed for an in-depth analysis of what it means to find love and what it means to keep it alive. This show was never meant to be a simple soulmate trope BL, and that much was clear when it set its mission statement in the first episode. It only continues to reiterate that idea as it concluded with this last message from Saengtai.

"In the end, the hearing-loss and soul-mate stuff are still questions that no one finds an answer. Or in fact, no one chooses to find an answer anymore. Because whether or not we know, it doesn't have anything to do with the path each person chooses. And, we will never know whether the paths we choose are the best ones. At least, we get to choose our own paths, instead of destiny determining it for us. There may be sadness, happiness, struggles, or convenience. But all in all, it's the meaning of life. I wish you all a happy journey in life."

For my last La Pluie post, I just want to say a big thank you to @lurkingshan, @bengiyo, @shouldiusemyname, @wen-kexing-apologist, @neuroticbookworm, @sunshinechay @shortpplfedup, @heretherebedork, and so many other users for posting such thoughtful insights that really made this show even more enjoyable to watch. I used so many metas that you all made as a stepping stone for my own ideas. The show was already enjoyable as it was, but the community made this experience even better.

Also, @lurkingshan brought to my attention all the negative reviews La Pluie has been getting on MyDramaList, so on a whim I decided to leave an overall review on the show. So if you fell in love with this show just as much as I did or even enjoyed it, here's the link to that, feel free to upvote mine and any other of the other positive reviews!

[sunshinechay]

So I want to talk about Tai for a second.

Specifically I want to talk about this moment right here:

Tai says point blank that he’s wanted to get rid of his hearing loss but he doesn’t feel any better now that it’s gone.

Of course I think he hates the way it happened, no one wants to go through anything even remotely similar to what he is going through right now. The emotional pain of having argued with someone important to you, the mental pain of knowing you fucked up in so many situations that you can’t figure your way out of. But this is something he’s wanted for at least the last 2 years. But by his own admission, he doesn’t feel better and I don’t think that’s going to chance any time soon.

It’s been talked about by everyone that Tai’s conflict resolution style is to clam up, to go silence and refuse to communicate. This is why this moment and the ensuing arguement with Patts is so painful. I agree with @bengiyo when he said that Tai is someone who reads too much romance. He has a skewed view of the way relationships are supposed to work. I also think though, that as time as gone on Tai has become more aware of that. He is still naive and fucks up so badly it’s completely understand why Patts reacts the way he does, but I don’t think he’s unaware of his fault. However he lacks the ability to convey the way he feels ( @lurkingshan and @ginnymoonbeam both have great posts here and here in which they discuss his conflict style and lack of ability to communicate) and now he has lost the best tool he had for making Patts believe that Tai finally knows that he will always choose Patts.

For all of Tai’s hang ups about the soulmate bond, I think he also recognizes that Patts doesn’t have those hang ups and that he does hold the believe that it means that they were meant to chose each other. It’s why Patts gets anxious, angry and upset when Lomfon acts the way he does. Why he is so frantic when he tries to confront Tai about it. Sure Tai might not have talked to him for 2 years, but he was still there and they still found their way to each other and that had to meant something, right?

But now it’s gone and Tai doesn’t know how to tell Patts that he does choose Patts because not only should Patts have already known that but the connection was also always there to prove it. Tai shouldn’t have to say it out loud because he shouldn’t have too. Again he thinks Patts should already know that. It’s horribly naive and shows Tai’s lack of dating experience but it’s what he believes in that moment.

The show is of course trying to point out that they don’t need it to have a successful relationship. They need hard work and good communication, but within the internal logic of the universe, I get why Tai would think this. Why should Patts doubt that Tai would choose him. They’ve already said they choose each other and they have (had) that connection.

But now that connection is gone. It’s gone because of Tai and he already regrets that it’s gone and that he took it away. I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out later that he wants it back. A classic case of don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone.

Hopefully before that happens (if it does), Patts and Tai will finally communicate with each other and get on the same page and learn how to work around their conflicts in way that both are able to do. Tai needs to grow up a bit more and learn that life’s not a romance novel (even though we might want it to be sometimes) and that it’s hard but worth it to try and make the best of it.

[scarefox]

[heretherebedork]

We are getting so many fascinating perspectives on the idea of soulmates, especially soulmates that are part of destiny and a disease.

Tai decided he could never love his soulmate because he risked losing him and that would hurt too much.

Phat would cure himself of the disease in a heartbeat and doesn't think of his soulmate as someone he wants to love.

Tian is jealous of the idea of soulmates but also does his best to dismiss the whole concept.

We don't know Lomfon's thoughts, not yet, but I expect he'll be different as well.

We know that Tien and Tai's parents were soulmates but that their relationship didn't work forever and that shaped all of their children as well...

Soulmates being part of a world is fascinating because you get to see how these ideas and expectations shape people but also shape the world. Soulmates are part of a disease, a disorder, but they are also soulmates. So which side wins? The disease or the soulmates? It's so wild to consider how much this means to the world and to love and to how people love and who they love...

[shouldiusemyname]

Well, another week, another excellent La Pluie ep! And I'm here with more of my Lomfon speculations (I'm finding my niech...).

What they did last week was driving me insane, but I think this week has cleared up some things for me.

First of all, Tai. I feel even more strongly now that he is a man that leads with his head. He has made a choice, which he feels is the right one, and he is in it. He chooses to have faith in Patts and their relationship, and there's no doubt there. It's not that he doesn't have feelings for Patts, it's the fact that the decision is a conscious one. He isn't falling into this relationship, he decides to enter. I loved that they showed him looking in on Patts and Nara's conversation with so much compassion. I feel like other shows would use this to create conflict, but this show, as usual, is about doing things differently. (I can't find it now, but @bengiyo has talked about how they handle Nara's feelings with so much respect).

This leads me to Lomfon - poor, confused Lomfon. As I see it, Lomfon is a rain-storm that has nothing to do with Tai And Patts' relationship (Look at me eating my words). You see, because Tai chooses to trust his relationship with Patts, he cannot be swayed. Lomfon is no threat where Tai is concerned. He will reject his advances if there will be any. However, we get a glimpse of Patts reaction to Lomfon's attempts at figuring himself out, and I think that's something that is able to shake Tai. Assuming I've managed to understand Tai's character, I believe that Tai is going to see Patts' reaction as him being insecure in their relationship, and that's maybe going to be an issue for Tai.

Lomfon's name, if anything, represents his confusion and his inability to clearly see what's going on inside of himself. The same way he was unable to see the person who saved him, which he considers to be his first love. The (metaphoric) rain is blinding him and (now I'm really going to reach) his sudden loss of hearing is going to force him to see things clearly. He might think he's seeing Tai, but he will see that Tai is not the person he truly cares for.

I just feel really bad for Tien. He is going to get crushed next week 🥺

[liyazaki]

the important thing is how we feel.

LA PLUIE THE SERIES | EPISODE 12

[hastalahamon]

did i miss an episode or something??

Tai went on a date with the guy he knew has a crush on him

Tai lied about it to his boyfriend

When said boyfriend felt, justifiably, hurt by that Tai refused to reassure him

And then Tai suggested they should break up

But this is somehow Patts' fault?!

[oyeicher]

I'm really worried about you. You're so drunk now.

La Pluie Episode 3