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X/1999 Volume 4 Illustration Comments 

1995 Monthly Asuka April Issue, Cover Illustration

Paper: Kent

Lines: Holbein Color Ink (Special Black)

Color. Dr. Ph. Martin's Color Ink, Liquitex 

I thought it might look cool to see a lady's kimono draped over a boy's high school uniform. Although the effort of drawing all those blossom outlines really tired me out (laughs), I think the kimono ended up looking nicely vibrant for it

1999 Monthly Asuka September Issue, Bonus Poster 

This illustration was for a poster, so the original size was quit large. Because of that I was a little worried about using only Copic markers to color it, so except or the hair and eyes used color ink instead. The gold parts were done with tempera paint. At that time Nekoi was wearing a kimono with a very distinctive pattern. so kind of used that as a motif, although I didn't copy it exactly. I wanted the kimono in the illustration to have a Yuzen look to it, so I painted it without drawing outlines first. And that way the camellas in the kimono also look different from the ones in the background

[Ed. Note: Yuzen is a style of kimono dyeing that was developed during the Edo era.]

2001 August, X: An Omen Package Illustration

X: An Omen was an OVA released before the TV anime series. It's about Kakyo's dream, so he takes center stage in the illustration. Kamui is included as a figure representing that omen. This is the standard-issue Kamui with wings. For some reason, he's wearing a CLAMP Academy uniform coat. The coat never appears in the actual manga, but you get to see it in full color here laughs

1999 Monthly Asuka April Issue Title Page Illustration

Another image of Kakyo as a captive-then again, he's pretty much been a captive his entire life anyway [laughs]. I wanted to create an effect as if there were fireflies flying about, so I left as few white areas in this illustration as possible. Ohkawa told me to make it seem as if he were wearing a thin, black silk summer kimono, and that turned out to be difficult After giving it some thought, I decided to use an airbrush. The background was done with India ink.

2002 Monthly Asuka July Issue. Title Page Illustration 

The colored paper butterflies scattered on this illustration are ones I'd used on an earlier piece. The image is one of Kakyo thrown down and abandoned on el the lavender petals of wisteria. Because his character is the "captive man" type, his leg is bound with a cord. The white cloth draped over him I painted by hand, not with an airbrush. If I'd used an airbrush. the texture of the material would have shone differently

1997 September, Volume 10, Cover Illustration 

Paper: BB Kent

Lines: PIGMA Graphic ink pen

Color: Dr. Ph. Martin's Color Ink, Copic marker

 I needed something white for the image, and I thought magnolia blossoms would be the perfect thing [laughs]. There was a large magnolia tree near my house that was very beautiful. This one is growing in someone else's yard though [laughs].

1998 Monthly Asuka August Issue, Title Page Illustration

This illustration is unusual in that Kamui appears against a blue background. And I painted his eyes violet. Although I did a similar piece later, this time when I was painting I really went extreme with the blue theme. I penciled the rough outline on copy paper and then transferred it to another sheet of paper where I did the inking and coloring.

1998 July, "Midsummer School" Festival Exclusive Calling Card Set Illustration 

This is the illustration for an exclusive calling card set that could only be bought at the "Midsummer School Festival” event. I knew the image was going to be shrunk down radically, but I still used long shots of four characters [laughs]. The people who got hold of these calling cards must have thought the characters were tiny especially their faces [laughs]. I drew them in groups of two for the two calling cards. Their clothes look similar but are different in color, and the forms are slightly different too

2002 March, X Original Offset Print

This image was going to be used to create an offset print, so I put a lot of effort into making it. I was doing a Chobits piece simultaneously, so the building and altar in the background of the two illustrations are actually the same, as are the candleholder and small ornaments. However, the building in the Chobits piece is nice and intact while the X one has been destroyed. I wanted to create matched illustrations that could be enjoyed together as well as separately 

1998 Monthly Asuka August Issue, Bonus Poster

I drew this one on Watson Paper, which has a rough surface. I put down a background wash of Lumocolor sepia first, in order to brighten up the center of the illustration. Fumas wing was done with color ink, and I used an airbrush for Kamuis wing in order to give it a translucent look Ohkawa had asked me to create an illustration that could be viewed in either orientation. so I created a symmetrical composition divided by the water's surface in the center

2001 Monthly Asuka December Issue Title Page Illustration

Karen has a lot of sexy shots like this laughs. I think I did the background mainly in red color ink, with a matte finish to it. I colored her hair and lips with Copic markers. which are great for when I want to give something a glossy texture. The illustration would have looked vulgar if I'd used the Copics too much, though, so I only used them for the important parts

1998 September, X Volume 11, Cover Illustration

This is the back-cover illustration for volume 11 of the manga series The title on the front cover was in dark lilac, so I gave the image a purplish hue. Karen has a Christian background, so she's often drawn together with a cross. The lilies are a reference to the Holy Mother. Karen usually wears sexy clothes, but she's dressed rather conservatively here.

1999 Monthly Asuka February Issue, Cover Illustration

Back then my illustrations weren't as soft as they are now [laughs]. Here the glass Earth is made to look like an egg about to hatch. I used an airbrush for the background and the egg. After inking Kamui, I did the wings and the rest with an airbrush. which meant that I spent more time fussing with masking tape than doing the actual coloring. I'd peel a section off and color it, then put the tape down on a different place, peel another section off and color it... I had to watch the amount of ink I was using too, so it was really time-consuming 

1998 Monthly Asuka November Issue, Cover illustration

This is another older illustration. I remember it being a pretty easy piece to work on. I purposely drew it so that Kamui's face could not be seen. I put down a layer of modeling paste over ordinary BB Kent Paper to create a wall-like look before I started drawing on it. The uniforms were done with color ink, to give them a woolly texture. After I shaded in all the colors I placed another quick layer of modeling paste over them; you can see the colors through the paste, which creates an interesting effect

2000 Monthly Asuka August issue, Cover Illustration 

This is an illustration of Fuma placing his hand upon a pane of glass and looking through the window. I like drawing close-ups of a single character since those are easy to draw [laughs]. I wanted the rain and the parts of the window in contact with Fuma's hand to have a different texture so I used a gloss-type thinner for the Liquitex. It hardens when it dries and creates a nice translucent

2000 Monthly Asuka January/February issue, Mail Order Calling Card and Calendar illustration

This is actually a very small illustration. I inked it mostly using Copic markers and did the cherry blossoms using acrylic gouache afterward. When I draw these two guys I always put nothing but cherry blossoms in the background they would go to waste if I included something superfluous. In this one, I had the cherry tree capture Subaru. Even though Japanese cherry trees don't have vines (laughs].

2003 X TV Anime DVD and Video Trading Card Premium

I happened to have a blackish, dark purple ink at the time, so I used that for the background. The gold flecks are rhinestones produced for nail art; I stuck them directly onto the illustration. I did a lot of work on the background to give it a rich feel, so I mainly used Copic markers for Seishiro to balance that out. Now that I think of it, this illustration may seem a little grotesque since it looks like he's gouging out his own eye

1999 March, X Volume 12, Cover Illustration 

This is the back-cover illustration for volume 12 of the manga series. The "X" on the front cover of this volume was silver. I had used grey on volume 4, and I wanted to make this volume brighter than that, so I had Subaru wear gray clothes against a white background. I wanted him to be up against the wall. The posters on the wall are torn-up bits of an English newspaper that I pasted on then drew "X”s over them

[dawn-of-worlds]

Dawn of Worlds: Game II

The spirit of the game:

Rules are guidelines, fiction is sacred. If your character does something not covered by the rules, make up an appropriate power cost for it (which might be zero.) You can phrase things in a jokey or whatever manner, but the events of the fiction itself should be interpretable in a serious manner. In general, the gods can follow a mythopoetic logic while mortals follow a logic that is more “realistic” and sociological, etc. When in doubt, proceed according to what would/might happen if the world were a real place, rather than a story being told, or a game governed by rules abstractions, even though this is in a sense both of those things. If you’re negating or reversing what someone else does, prefer to leave a trace rather than returning to zero. IE if i make a frog monster and you smash it into oblivion, maybe its ghost is exiled to the underworld or it’s frozen in ice or its body serves as a source of food for the next century or idk you make it up, but something that can be riffed off of.

Each player gets 2d6 points per turn plus a non-hoarding bonus: one point for every consecutive turn begun with fewer than five points, to a maximum of three (one on the first such turn, two on the second, three on the third).

Using an avatar to perform an action reduces the action cost by a flat 2 points, minimum 1, rather than setting it to 1 or 2. Remember that any given avatar can only act once per turn.

The costs for Create Race are lowered when performed cooperatively to 15, 4 and 10 points in each age respectively. The costs for Create Subrace are lowered when performed cooperatively to 8, 3 and 7 in each age respectively.

Each age lasts 5 turns. A turn represents approximately 500 in-game years in the first age, 100 in the second, and 10 in the third. Players may vote to add more turns to an age.

Turns end/begin each Sunday, but don't get too hung up on deadlines. Being a day or two late is fine.

Please tag posts with #world 02548.

The rules:

Our alterations to the rules:

The map:

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[hyperpotamianarch]

-Hey, Arch?

Yes, fake audience voice?

-Why are you reblogging your question a third time?

I'm so glad you've asked! See, I've went over some historical stuff and came across a completely different answer for the first question. So, since the other reblog line (the Jewsade) has become too long, I've decided to start over.

-Why not reblog some other post that discussed that topic? Also, why the heck did you not do the proper historical research while working on the origi-

All right, that's quite enough.

So, another answer to question one! How exciting! Especially since everybody loved the original so much. So, you see, it has come to my attention that some 17th century events might have greater bearing on-

-It's because you liked the idea of the Jewsade too much, isn't it? You've spent a whole whopping Shabbat researching David Reubeni, Shlomo Molcho and John Calvin, and it was so darn exciting-

Shut up!

-on the presence of Jews in certain places by the time HDM occures at. You see, Menasseh Ben Israel-

-You were so caught up in your idea of a Jewish Messiah getting somewhere and then failing miserably. Why? Was that a commentary on the State of Israel or something?

Shut UP! I'm trying to-

-Trying to nothing, you keep allow me to break you because you enjoy this way of portraying stuff and don't have a proper outline to anything about Menasseh Ben Israel!

All right, fine! I'll admit it.

So. Umm. That.

Yeah, as my fake-audience-voice (-Hi!) said above, I did get caught up with research on David Reubeni, even though I knew about Menasseh Ben Israel's bearing on the history of Judaism at the time. The truth is, the thought hit me on my way to the Synagogue on Shabbat eve and I got so excited I kept it in mind for the entirety of the Shabbat. Then I wrote my post immediately when Shabbat ended where I live.

Those are not very important details, but I think they explain my odd focus on the Jewsade on the other post. I got excited. It was a cool - if slightly disturbing, considering its relation to the crusades - event that didn't happen in our world but could happen elsewhere. Only problem is, the alterations were slightly too early.

I don't know at what year was John Calvin elected pope in Lyra's world. However, besides it changing very little (the people who mattered for the sake of the Jewsade are the kings more than the pope), it was also likely after both Reubeni and Molcho were imprisoned by Charles V. It doean't have to be that way - slight alterations, even prior to the major deviation point, are not hard to make - but it makes it more of an independant idea.

Menasseh Ben Israel, however, held an important role in the history of Judaism, and lived during the 17th century, placing him in an easy place to be affected by this alteration. I will admit to lazyness in my historical research - when galvanized during the Shabbat I can do a lot, but Ambaric and Computing devices tend to distract me easily during the weekdays. That's a weak excuse, but this is why my reading on Ben Israel was mostly just his Wikipedia article.

Either way: Menasseh Ben Israel was the son of Porugese Anusim, forced converts. His family lived in La Rochelle for a time as a way to escape the Inquisition, but later moved to Amsterdam, where Menasseh Ben Israel spent most of the rest of his life. For the record, the time cite in Wikipedia for their move to the Netherlands is 1610.

Now, it's probably important to note that the Netherlands were only starting to become independant - there was a war, which was somewhat related to the Netherlands being mostly protestant while Spain, which sort of controlled them, was famously Catholic. This is probably significant, since most Netherlanders were not just any type of protestant - they were Calvinists.

To get to the point, though, Menasseh Ben Israel apparently attempted to explain Judaism to the Christians of the world - he was in a good position for that, I guess, having been raised in a family of Anusim. He also made efforts to convince Sweden and Britain to allow Jews to live in them, under the belief that the salvation of the Jewish people will only come once they reach the farthest corners of the Earth. He had limited success with Sweden - a small Jewish community was founded there during 1680s, but was later expelled. He didn't live to see that, though, or the eventual success of his efforts in Britain, because he died at 1657 while trying to bring his son's body to burial in Amsterdam.

To be fair, it took about a century more for Sweden to truly allow Jews in again, but Menasseh Ben Israel is, in some ways, the man who caused those two countries to accept Jews. Incidentally, if you follow Lyra's journey, most of the time she's in her own world is in one of those countries. Plus a portion in Greenland (Svalbard and Lord Asriel's hut, possibly the Station as well) and some time in India (I think? I'm pretty sure it was a mountain range in Southeast Asia in the book. In the series it was a somewhat forsaken island, IIRC). Though, considering she was unconcious for most of her time in that last place I'm not sure it counts.

Well, I just checked and it turns out there were Jews in Denmark earlier than in Sweden - it's not clear if there were Jews there during the Middle Ages, but Jews were allowed there in 1622, when Menasseh Ben Israel was about 18. So maybe I exaggarated his influence a bit. I'm not sure what bearing it has on Greenland, though. Anyway, attempting to avoid uncomfortable topics: with changes in how the church functions, a lot of stuff in Europe will change. I've said so in the other line of reblogs already, but I don't know if the Magisterium will start by giving the Inquisition more authority or close it entirely. We know that by Lyra's time the Inquisition isn't active anymore, but the hints that it was active in the past might indicate it survived Calvin's reforms to the Catholic church. So, in short, the Ben Israel family might have nowhere to go in fear of the Inquisition. It can affect Menasseh's life in a myriad of ways - he may have went to live in America, for example - and many of them can lead to no one raising to Cromwell, or whoever else might be controlling Brytain at the time, the topic of allowing Jewish return to it.

Without the Jewsade (assuming I'm dissuaded from it. I'm not yet - still attempting to work on a fanfic, which doesn't mean much considering it has been less than a week), the results of simply not having such an important figure will mostly just be no Jews in Sweden or Brytain. For the same reason Menasseh Ben Israel doesn't fulfill his function in our timeline, it may be that there won't be Jews in Denmark and Norway either. It might be that there would be mass emigration of Ashkenazi Jews to North Africa, the Ottoman Empire, or America due to expulsions. Alternatively, there will be much more Anusim.

What you may have noticed by now in this attempt at historical research and alternative history is the prominence of Portugese Anusim and Expelled people. Or you might have chucked it to the "two is a coincidence" bin. I'm not sure what to think of that myself, as I'm usually more focused on the Spanish Expulsion as a significant event for Judaism in that era. The Portugese one usually comes as an afterthought. I do think it points out to a significant fact: the Jews of the Iberian Peninsula were very well educated and strongly affected every community they got to. There were Jews in Italy prior to the Banished Sepharadim, but instead of joining those local congregations - the Sepharadim started their own. In North African and Middle Eastern Congregations they're considered to have had a significant effect on practices.

If you're wondering what I'm getting at, you should know I myself don't know. Maybe that instead of talking about some French theologian I have to focus on Spain and Portugal when talking about the History of Judaism at the beginning of the Modern Era? Also, a lot of religious development in Judaism at the time occured in the Ottoman Empire, where Rabbi Joseph Karow wrote the Beit Yosef and Shulchan Aruch. One religious and political shift in Christianity isn't enough to change that. The Jewsade possibly has the largest effect because it's shaped by European politics and will change the state of affairs for Jews in the Ottoman Empire. Other than that, though, it's just a question of more oppression or less oppression.

And I'm starting to ramble. Main takeaways:

a. Shifts in the timeline might result in Jews not only being kept out of Brytain and Sweden for the forseeable future, but also migrating from Christian countries to Muslim ones or to the newly-sprouted coloniess.

b. Most everything related to that is shaped by the Spanish and Portugese Expulsions, forced conversions and Inquisition. Considering the possibility of those expanding all over Europe, I'm not sure what role Spaniard and Portugese Jews might play. They had a significant role at this period already, to be honest, but they might even have an even bigger one here, if very different.

c. Honestly, I'm not very good at this historical research thing. I love reading lore details about alternate histories and such, and feel that Judaism is usually ignored in the grand scale of things in most works about that (excepting WW2 related works, which is something of a tired trope to my understanding), but I don't see myself as the right person to change that. I just decided to drop History as a topic for my BA, and got a barely decent grade in the only class o the topic I took this year. I'm fascinated by history, but some things in its study are slightly boring me. In short, I really want someone else to take this from me. That might be why I just wanted to see the post by the Tea Detective instead of doing all this work: I knew, if subconciously, that I don't have the willpower to do it well. So please, if anyone reading this is as interested as I am in the topic and actually knows how to do historical research, please help.

Huh. Glad to have this off my chest, but not sure I expected it.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed reading that and found it interesting. Thank you for reading, and have a good day!

All right. So, first: if you are either Jewish, like His Dark Materials, or both, please reblog. If you aren't any of those but know someone who is - please share it with them. I want to get as many thoughts on this as possible.

In essence, I just want to ask two simple questions. I have the beginnings of answers for myself, but Judaism is nothing if not full of discourse and many opinions on one topic. So, again: reblog. Share your thoughts and opinions. Hopefully, it will give us a wide variety of possibilities and answers.

The two questions are: where are Jews in Lyra's world? And what are the theological and Halachic concequences of having dæmons?

I intend to share my opinions in two separate reblogs, but please share your thoughts even if you don't see mine. The short version is that I looked about events in Jewish history around John Calvin's time for the first question (pope John Calvin being the major alternation of history in HDM). As for the second question - I have some thoughts relating to the Chabad thought stream. Elaborations, again, going in reblogs.

Thank you in advance!

(PS, question number 1 was handled once by the sadly deactivvated user the Tea Detective, though their full post disappeared. Link to a reblogging of the first half: here. Note, another reblog mentions other religions - feel free to discuss them, I'm focusing on Judaism because I'm Jewish. Another post asking this question was posted here, so have fun with it. Meanwhile, this post is about dæmons and religions in general and lightly touches Judaism.)

[laboratorioautoral]

The original outline and why it is still relevant to ASOIF

Since the original outline for A Song of Ice and Fire was leaked there’s been a massive effort, both in fandom and mainstream media, to discredit everything that was revealed there as a potential clue for the future of the story.

Although I agree that some changes happened, I don’t subscribe to the idea that the outline is irrelevant at this point. This little essay is my attempt to analyze the outline and compare it with what has already happened and still could happen in the future books, how much was changed and more importantly, how it was changed. I won’t say this is an impartial analysis (because I don’t believe that such a thing exists) but an honest effort of textual interpretation.

Here we go:

“Dear Ralph,

Here are the first thirteen chapters (170 pages) of the high fantasy novel I promised you, which I'm calling 'A Game of Thrones.' When completed, this will be the first volume in what I see as an epic trilogy with the overall title, 'A Song of Ice and Fire.'”

First things first. A Song of Ice and Fire was first imagined as a trilogy and the fact that GRRM extended it to 7 books obviously has an impact in terms of structure. It seems quite reasonable to assume that a lot more would have to happen to fill the gap occupied by 4 additional books. That alone is a huge influencing factor, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that the essence of the story was changed as we can see in the following paragraphs.

“As you know, I don't outline my novels. I find that if I know exactly where a book is going, I lose all interest in writing it. I do, however, have some strong notions as to the overall structure of the story I'm telling, and the eventual fate of many of the principle characters in the drama. Roughly speaking, there are three major conflicts set in motion in the chapters enclosed. These will form the major plot threads of the trilogy, [unclear] each other in what should be a complex but exciting (I hope [unclear] tapestry. Each of the [unclear] presents a major threat [unclear] of my imaginary realm, the Seven Kingdoms, and to the live [unclear] principal characters.”

Here we have Martin admitting that he usually doesn’t outline his novels over fear that he will lose interest while writing it. However, he also clarifies that he has “some strong notions” for the story he is telling, especially in which concerns those he considers to be the main characters.

In some of interviews Martin already said that the ending he had planned many years ago is still in place and he has known the characters’ endings ever since. It’s safe to assume, I think, that the core of his plans hasn’t changed much. What might have changed is the path that leads the characters from one point to another.

“The first threat grows from the enmity between the great houses of Lannister and Stark as it plays out in a cycle of plot, counter-plot, ambition, murder, and revenge, with the iron throne of the Seven Kingdoms as the ultimate prize. This will form the backbone of the first volume of the trilogy, A Game of Thrones.”

Can anyone say that this didn’t happen? Of course not. This is the spark that lights the fire that will consume the Seven Kingdoms throughout the story, with major and minor consequences that will shape both the narrative and the characters’ development. The conflict between Starks and Lannisters is the first of three conflicts that represent the core of the story.

“While the lion of Lannister and the direwolf of Stark snarl and scrap, however, a second and greater threat takes shape across the narrow sea, where the Dothraki horselords mass their barbarian hordes for a great invasion of the Seven Kingdoms, led by the fierce and beautiful Daenerys Stormborn, the last of the Targaryen dragonlords. The Dothraki invasion will be the central story of my second volume, A Dance with Dragons.”

Here we have the second major conflict and with this one in particular I’ll have to take my time to elaborate some points. First of all, A Dance With Dragons became the 5th book of the series instead of the second. So far everything we saw about Daenerys was her preparing to take her place at the center of the stage.

Dany has her own arc which hasn’t integrated to the events in Westeros so far given to her geographic location. That doesn’t mean that Daenerys has no relevance to what’s happening in Westeros, but her existence wasn’t directly noticed by the seven kingdoms yet. Daenerys is preparing for her role in the main story: She is gathering a military force based on the Dothraki to invade Westeros.

We already know that Daenerys will have more than just the Dothraki on her side. The Unsullied were added to the plot and my guess is that they exist to humanize Daenerys and make us sympathize with her cause as she creates the great narrative of “Breaker of Chains”. This makes Daenerys sound heroic and noble, but I would like to point that Martin is very specific about one thing: The fierce and beautiful Daenerys Stormborn is first and foremost a threat. She is ready to invade Westeros and invasions are not peaceful.

At this point we already know two things worth being mentioned that are related both with Daenerys and the title of this book: The Dance of Dragons was a civil war involving two Targaryen claimants to the Iron Throne. On one side we had Rhaenyra, firstborn of the king and rightful heir if gender wasn’t an issue in Westerosi succession laws. On the other side we had Aegon, a son born from the king’s second marriage. His claim was mostly based on gender norms that favor male heirs in detriment of primogeniture.

It isn’t much of a dance if we only have one dragon, is it? Yes, Daenerys is the first half of this equation, but there is another half that Martin hadn’t created yet (or didn’t mention) when he wrote the outline. There is a second Targaryen, or at least someone who claims to be one.

Aegon VI, or Young Griff, is actually the first one to arrive in Westeros with invasion in mind. Does it mean that Dany is less of a threat or that she was suddenly placed in a heroic position? Absolutely not. No one with three dragons is a harmless creature and Dany is even more dangerous now that she has a direct enemy in position to take away everything she fought for.

I know that there’s a lot of speculation on whether Aegon is a Blackfire or not, but honestly I think his true lineage will be irrelevant as long as he has at least a drop of Targaryen blood and the right looks. Legitimate or not, Aegon looks like a Targaryen, has the house’s ancestral sword and a story that is convincing enough. More than that, by posing as Prince Rhaegar’s legitimate son, Aegon makes his claim stronger than Daenerys’. On top of that, he would be the Targaryen male heir in opposition to a Targaryen woman, repeating at least a part of the scenery that led Westeros to the Dance of Dragons.

Aegon and Daenerys are bound to become enemies because of their own ambitions. I don’t see Dany accepting him as a suitor or even the rightful heir. She doesn’t need Aegon to take Westeros and a queen without a king is, historically speaking, more powerful.

Everything said about Aegon can also be applied to Jon once his true parentage is revealed. Jon and Daenerys are a threat to each other and only one will survive this.

“The greatest danger of all, however, comes from the north, from the icy wastes beyond the Wall, where half-forgotten demons out of legend, the inhuman others, raise cold legions of the undead and the neverborn and prepare to ride down on the winds of winter to extinguish everything that we would call "life." The only thing that stands between the Seven Kingdoms and an endless night is the Wall, and a handful of men in black called the Night's Watch. Their story will be [sic] heart of my third volume, The Winds of Winter. The final battle will also draw together characters and plot threads left from the first two books and resolve all in one huge climax.”

The third and greatest danger also remains just the same. The Others are still the core of the last book and the major battle. There isn’t much to elaborate on in this part except for the title of what was supposed to be the last book, The Winds of Winter.

I don’t think A Dream of Spring will be some sort of extended epilogue, but most of the action and conflict should take part during The Winds of Winter. At the very least the center of the whole debate will be both the North, with all the plots there, and what lies beyond the Wall.

“The thirteen chapters on hand should give you a notion as to my narrative strategy. All three books will feature a complex mosaic of inter-cutting points-of-view among various of my large and diverse cast of players. The cast will not always remain the same. Old characters will die, and new ones will be introduced. Some of the fatalities will include sympathetic viewpoint characters. I want the reader to feel that no one is ever completely safe, not even the characters who seem to be the heroes. The suspense always ratchets up a notch when you know that any character can die at any time.”

Needless to say anything about this. The books are well-known for these hallmarks. Now we are getting to the juicy part.

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“Five central characters will make it through all three volumes, however, growing from children to adults and changing the world and themselves in the process. In a sense, my trilogy is almost a generational saga, telling the life stories of these five characters, three men and two women. The five key players are Tyrion Lannister, Daenerys Targaryen, and three of the children of Winterfell, Arya, Bran, and the bastard Jon Snow. All of them are introduced at some length in the chapters you have to hand.”

I would like to make a point here. The five characters will grow from children to adults, changing the world and themselves in the process.

Although I believe that Martin made a bit of a mess in which concerns the characters’ ages, I think we can understand that the characters will not only be forced to act like adults, but also will be perceived as such by those around them and given positions of power or leadership.

Specifically in which concerns the female characters, both Daenerys and Arya will be perceived as adult women by Westerosi society and this is important for several reasons, mainly in that being an adult noblewoman is a relevant component to form political alliances via marriage. In Arya’s case in particular, it reinforces the idea that she won’t be a nine year old girl forever. This impacts her relevance in the political game (something people usually overlook or ignore) and also makes it possible for Arya to have romantic interests.

“This is going to be (I hope) quite an epic. Epic in its scale, epic in its action, and epic in its length. I see all three volumes as big books, running about 700 to 800 manuscript pages, so things are just barely getting underway in the thirteen chapters I've sent you.”

Can anyone say it isn’t an epic? Sometimes I wish it wasn’t so intense so the books would come earlier, but here we are.

“I have quite a clear notion of how the story is going to unfold in the first volume, A Game of Thrones. Things will get a lot worse for the poor Starks before they get better, I'm afraid. Lord Eddard Stark and his wife Catelyn Tully are both doomed, and will perish at the hands of their enemies. Ned will discover what happened to his friend Jon Arryn, [unclear] can act on his knowledge [unclear] will have an unfortunate accident, and the throne will [unclear] to [unclear] and brutal [unclear] Joffrey [unclear] still a minor. Joffrey will not be sympathetic and Ned [what appears to say] will be accused of treason, but before he is taken he will help his wife and his daughter Arya escape back to Winterfell.”

Here we have proof that Ned and Catelyn were doomed from the start. Basically everything in this paragraph happened, even the part in which Ned helps Arya to escape by giving her position to Yoren. The only problem is that Arya never reached Winterfell and her mother had left the capital before Ned was arrested. Also the part that says that “things will get much worse for the poor Starks before they get better” makes me think that it’s quite clear that the Starks (or some of them) are the main protagonists of this story.

Why am I saying the Starks (or some of them) are the main heroes? Because being a charismatic character, created with the intention of getting the readers’ sympathy, isn’t necessarily what makes this character a protagonist. You can like whoever you want in the story, this doesn’t make a secondary character a main character, nor does it make a likable character the ‘hero’. The structure of the story and who are the main players is already given.

“Each of the contending families will learn it has a member of dubious loyalty in its midst. Sansa Stark, wed to Joffrey Baratheon, will bear him a son, the heir to the throne, and when the crunch comes she will choose her husband and child over her parents and siblings, a choice she will later bitterly rue. Tyrion Lannister, meanwhile, will befriend both Sansa and her sister Arya, while growing more and more disenchanted with his own family.”

Tyrion and Sansa were set to be the ones with dubious loyalties to their families. This also happened with slight differences. Tyrion befriends Jon and is somewhat sympathetic to Sansa and Bran. Sansa didn’t marry Joffrey, but she did choose him over her own family  the moment she went to Cersei to tell her Ned’s plans to get Sansa and Arya out of the capital. This might or might not indicate that she will have the chance to repent and atone for this, but her dubious loyalty is consolidated. Also Sansa has no children so far.

“Young Bran will come out of his coma, after a strange prophetic dream, only to discover that he will never walk again. He will turn to magic, at first in the hope of restoring his legs, but later for its own sake. When his father Eddard Stark is executed, Bran will see the shape of doom descending on all of them, but nothing he can say will stop his brother Robb from calling the banners in rebellion. All the north will be inflamed by war. Robb will win several splendid victories, and maim Joffrey Baratheon on the battlefield, but in the end he will not be able to stand against Jaime and Tyrion Lannister and their allies. Robb Stark will die in battle, and Tyrion Lannister will besiege and burn Winterfell.”

Bran’s arc is pretty much the same. We saw all of these things happen to him. The biggest change is in Robb’s part and even so most of it remains untouched. Robb did win splendid victories and in the books he even strategically beats both Jaime and Tyrion. What changed is that Robb and Joffrey never fought each other personally. Also Robb’s death was not on the battlefield but during the Red Wedding and Tyrion wasn't the one to sack Winterfell and burn it.

Tyrion’s first act of explicit villainy in the outline was transferred to Houses Bolton and Frey with participation of Theon Greyjoy. Still it was all part of the Lannisters’ plot and it was executed by their allies.

“Jon Snow, the bastard, will remain in the far north. He will mature into a ranger of great daring, and ultimately will succeed his uncle as the commander of the Night's Watch. When Winterfell burns, Catelyn Stark will be forced to flee north with her son Bran and her daughter Arya. Wounded by Lannister riders, they will seek refuge at the Wall, but the men of the Night's Watch give up their families when they take the black, and Jon and Benjen will not be able to help, to Jon's anguish. It will lead to a bitter estrangement between Jon and Bran. Arya will be more forgiving ... until she realizes, with terror, that she has fallen in love with Jon, who is not only her half-brother but a man of the Night's Watch, sworn to celibacy. Their passion will continue to torment Jon and Arya throughout the trilogy, until the secret of Jon's true parentage is finally revealed in the last book.”

Here we have some changes. What doesn’t change is that Jon becomes a member of the Night’s Watch and ultimately ascends to the position of Lord Commander. Benjen is a famous member of the Night’s Watch and I believe he was the first choice to take the position of Lord Commander after Mormont, but Ben’s disappearance accelerated Jon’s ascension.

Catelyn and Arya never fled Winterfell, since their paths had already taken them somewhere else, but Bran did and his first impulse is to go to the Wall. Given the fact that the three eyed raven calls him, Bran’s magical journey leads him to go beyond the Wall before he can be reunited with Jon.

Arya and Cat had completely different journeys, or at least partially. Cat seeks her eldest son and stays by Robb’s side during his campaign. Arya, on the other hand, is stranded all over the Riverlands trying to find her way to either Winterfell or the Wall, although she explicitly says that she prefers to go to Wall, where she can find Jon. There was a clear intention to send both Bran and Arya to the Wall, but as the story progressed this decision might have been abandoned temporarily.

Thanks to his vows, Jon can’t take part in the realm’s politics. When news of Ned’s fate arrive at the Wall, Jon is devastated by the impossibility to help his family and fight side by side with Robb. Jon’s moral boundaries and his code of honor become a huge issue for him in the books, and they are tested the most whenever his family is involved. This seems to be his main dilemma in the outline as well.

Jon’s relationship with his family is also ambiguous in some aspects, especially when it’s revealed that his greatest dream since he was young was to be the Lord of Winterfell. This implies a level of rivalry and envy of his true born siblings. Jon repressed these feelings as much as he could out of love for the Starks.

Now I’ll make some guesses here, I don’t think it’s impossible for Bran and Jon to have some bitter estrangement between them, but it won’t be because of the Night’s Watch: If Jon is released from his vows once he is resurrected and takes back Winterfell along with the titles, it will undoubtedly lead to a succession crisis involving not only rights of conquest but also Robb’s will. Bran’s rights are directly affected in this scenario and, unlike the show, Bran never once questioned his position as Robb’s heir. It’s not impossible to imagine that factions will gather behind both claimants and this can cause another crisis in the North and bitterness between brothers in a moment when union is crucial.

Arya has a close relationship with both Bran and Jon and she is someone both of them feel inclined to listen to. I think Arya will be the bridge between them and the one to diplomatically avoid a rupture in the North, but it doesn’t mean the bitterness between Bran and Jon will disappear.

Now we reach the hugest taboo of the outline and the main reason why people claim “it’s no longer relevant” or that “Martin changed his mind”. Jon and Arya falling in love.

Let’s get one thing very clear, Jon and Arya already love each other in the books. This is not my opinion, this is the literal text.

Jon’s best friend was Robb and still Jon affirms that he missed Arya the most. Just go back to the books and count how many times and how affectionately they think of each other. They repeatedly say how they miss finishing each other’s sentences and how Jon loves to mess Arya’s hair. “The memory of her laughter kept him warm during the long journey north.” and “Needle was Jon Snow’s smile” are two small quotes that speak volumes of how deep this love is.

Am I saying this is a romantic sort of love? No. I’m not saying this. What I’m doing is  highlighting the fact that this particular relationship stands out as one of the strongest (if not the strongest) bond in the books to the point where it’s not even questionable that Jon and Arya love each other the most. It’s strong enough to make Jon forsake his vows and decide to march to Winterfell to rescue a girl he thinks to be Arya. It’s strong enough to make Arya lie to Ned because she would never betray Jon.

Jon didn’t break his vows for any other sibling, no matter how much he wanted to, but he did it to save whom he thought was Arya. His love for her is the cause of Jon’s death in the books. He committed treason the moment he received the pink letter and decided to march against Ramsay Bolton. Jon’s last thought is “stick’em with the pointy end”.

I think it’s safe to assume that Jon will be resurrected and Melissandre is probably the one to perform the ritual. We already know that resurrections have some side effects in the asoiaf universe, the most evident one being some sort of obsessive thought that keeps guiding the resurrected’s actions (like Beric Dondarrion’s obsession with keeping the king’s peace, and Lady Stoneheart killing Freys to avenge Robb’s death). Jon’s last thought was directly related to Arya and there’s no other possible interpretation. His last thought is likely to become his obsession.

I also think it’s safe to say that Jon’s memory will stay inside Ghost at least for a while and we will have to wait and see the effects that will have on Jon’s personality once he comes back to life.

Varamir said that Ghost would be a second life fit for a king and I think this is a clear foreshadowing of Jon’s true identity. There are also some other aspects of wolf pack dynamics that deserve some consideration: Wolves are social animals that have hierarchy and well divided roles inside the pack and although Ghost is a lonely wolf that was separated from his original group, it would only take one female for him to start his own pack. Curiously Nymeria is an alpha female already, leading a pack of regular wolves, but she rejects her smaller cousins as potential mates. Ghost and Nymeria are the alpha male and female of a new pack. The wolves of Winterfell will come back; stronger and more dangerous.

I think all of these elements will play a significant role in how Jon and Arya’s love will change once they are reunited. It won’t be immediate, but as the story goes the sexual tension will become evident. Jon’s perception of Arya as a sister will be blurred as a teenage Arya starts to see him as a love interest. At this point Arya will already be perceived as an adult woman according to Westerosi society, as I pointed out before. My guess is that she will be close to Daenerys’ age when she married Drogo. I’m not judging if this is right or wrong by our own moral standards. What I’m saying is that it’s acceptable in the world created by GRRM.

As the outline says, their passion will continue to torment Jon and Arya throughout the trilogy, until Jon’s true parentage is revealed. This necessarily implies that: 1) they are not siblings; 2) their passion brings a lot of moral issues and they are not comfortable with it; 3) their agony has an end when Jon’s parentage is revealed. Jon’s true parentage is a moral free pass for them and, at least from what we can read in the outline, this is more relevant than any potential succession rights.

This moral free pass wouldn’t be applied in a romantic relationship between Jon and Daenerys for example. It would actually have the opposite effect, giving Jon reason to question his moral choices and torment himself with doubts. This plot point is not applicable to Sansa either, mostly because Sansa and Jon don’t have a close relationship that’s already been established. They have a distant one and don’t even think much about each other. The whole point of Jon and Arya’s strong bond is to lay the foundations for a romance, establishing a relationship based on love, mutual loyalty and respect.

Do we have any indication that Jon and Arya’s romance was scrapped based on the books? No. Do we have any conclusive evidence in the text that Arya was replaced by any other female character? No. Why do I think Jon and Arya are endgame? Because we have only two books left and a lot of events that must be covered by them. It’s way easier to use an already established loving relationship with 5 books of consistent development and make it a romantic one (and make it believable as an epic romance because all the dramatic elements are already there), than to write a brand new one from scratch and make the reader believe that this is the ultimate love story.

“Abandoned by the Night's Watch, Catelyn and her children will find their only hope of safety lies even further north, beyond the Wall, where they fall into the hands of Mance Rayder, the King-beyond-the-Wall, and get a dreadful glimpse of the inhuman others as they attack the wilding encampment. Bran's magic, Arya's sword Needle, and the savagery of their direwolves will help them survive, but their mother Catelyn will die at the hands of the others.”

Catelyn was meant to be killed by the Others. It’s not hard to conclude that she would have become one of them. The major difference from the outline to the books is that Catelyn died elsewhere, however she was brought back to life by fire magic as Lady Stoneheart. I can also see Bran and Arya fighting against the Others with the help of their direwolves in the event of a great battle by the end of the books. There’s nothing indicating that this part was cut, it just hasn’t happened yet.

“Over across the narrow sea, Daenerys Targaryen will discover that her new husband, the Dothraki Khal Drogo, has little interest in invading the Seven Kingdoms, much to her brother's frustration. When Viserys presses his claims past the point of tact or wisdom, Khal Drogo will finally grow annoyed and kill him out of hand, eliminating the Targaryen pretender and leaving Daenerys as the last of her line. Danerys [sic] will bide her time, but she will not forget. When the moment is right, she will kill her husband to avenge her brother, and then flee with a trusted friend into the wilderness beyond Vaes Dothrak. There, hunted by [unclear] of her life, she stumbles on a [something about dragon eggs] a young dragon will give Daenerys [unclear] bend [unclear] to her will. Then she begins to plan for her invasion of the Seven Kingdoms.”

Daenerys’ arc here didn’t change much. What changed was her motivation to kill Drogo and how she gets the dragons. Everything else that happens to her since the second book is her preparing to invade Westeros.

“Tyrion Lannister will continue to travel, to plot, and to play the game of thrones, finally removing his nephew Joffrey in disgust at the boy king's brutality. Jaime Lannister will follow Joffrey on the throne of the Seven Kingdoms, by the simple expedient of killing everyone ahead of him in the line of succession and blaming his brother Tyrion for the murders. Exiled, Tyrion will change sides, making common cause with the surviving Starks to bring his brother down, and falling helplessly in love with Arya Stark while he's at it. His passion is, alas, unreciprocated, but no less intense for that, and it will lead to a deadly rivalry between Tyrion and Jon Snow.”

There’s only one character that was replaced, I think. The Jaime Lannister of the outline seems to have been replaced by Cersei in the books, and it makes much more sense.  The Baratheons are briefly mentioned and we know Joffrey to be officially one. We know that Tyrion and Jaime are Lannisters and that Tyrion and Jaime are brothers. Unless Joffrey’s official father was a Lannister, Jaime would have no place in the line of succession to the throne whatsoever and this is important even when you want to use the rights of conquest. Cersei could have one, by becoming her son’s heiress in case there’s no one else left.

Also, although Sansa didn’t marry Joffrey, her wedding to Tyrion still makes her a Lannister and ties her to the enemy. Her loyalty was put to the test because of Joffrey, but her ties to the Lannisters were consolidated with Tyrion. Her arc is still in place. Her marriage wasn’t declared null so far and I don’t think it will happen anytime soon. As far as public knowledge goes, Sansa is Lady Lannister.

As for the love triangle Jon Snow x Tyrion x Arya, I don’t think it’s impossible at all. While it’s true that so far Tyrion hasn't interacted with Arya and I doubt he even remembers her face from the short time he stayed at Winterfell, the Arya he will eventually meet will be an educated young woman that had many intriguing experiences in Braavos, is very charismatic and makes friends with everyone and anyone. Tyrion, being a man profoundly affected by his physical condition would gravitate towards her. I don’t think it’s hard to imagine him falling for someone capable of seeing him as an individual as Arya is.

There’s also an argument to be made that this love triangle might have been replaced by Ramsay x Arya x Jon in some ways. After all Tyrion didn’t burn Winterfell, Ramsay did. He also married a fake Arya (Jeyne Poole) to claim Winterfell in her name, leading to a violent rivalry between Ramsay and Jon.

This plot point might have just been either altered to replace Tyrion with Ramsay, or it hasn’t happened yet.

“[The next graph is blocked out.]

But that's the second book ... 

I hope you will find some editors who are as excited about all of this as I am. Feel free to share this letter with anyone who wants to know how the story will go. 

All best,

George R.R. Martin”

With everything said so far we can conclude a few things:

1) The three major conflicts remain the same.

2) Ned, Cat, Robb, Viserys and Drogo’s fate didn’t change.

3) Bran still went through a coma and can’t walk anymore. He also developed magical abilities. An eventual strained relationship with Jon is still possible.

4) Tyrion and Sansa’s dubious loyalties to their families weren't removed from the books and Sansa still got tied to the enemy via marriage, although to a different character.

5) Tyrion continues to travel, to plot, and to play the game of thrones. He didn’t kill Joffrey, but was blamed for it anyway. Eventually he will make alliances with enemies of his house.

6) Jon joined the Night’s Watch and became Lord Commander. His vows are constantly challenged, especially when his family is endangered. His incapacity to help them keeps torturing him and in the books it leads to his death.

7) Jon and Arya share a strong bond, based on love, mutual trust and loyalty, and respect. This relationship remains one of the most important ones in the books. This relationship was consistently developed throughout the 5 books already published and turning it into a romantic one is still possible.

8) Jon’s true parentage is super relevant.

9) Daenerys’ arc didn’t change.

10) The love triangle Jon x Arya x Tyrion was either replaced by Jon x FArya x Ramsay, or could still happen in its original form once Tyrion and Arya have the chance to interact with each other.

This was my lengthy analysis of the original outline and why I think it’s still valid. I hope you enjoyed it.

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It's Trivia Tuesday!! Can you give us a “behind the scenes” look at one of my fave fics of yours: Once more, with feeling ✨This could be things that got removed or changed, the origins of ideas/details, whatever you like! (And feel free to pass on the ask ;)) Xx 💚

Ahhhh, darling Q, thank you for the ask. This is one of my favourites too 😍💙

I wrote this for HP Kinkfest 2019. I wasn’t going to take part in this fest initially because i was already doing several others, but then i made the mistake of reading the prompt list and saw this prompt from Birsdofshore which was the most perfectly Scorbus scenario I had ever seen. I really had no choice but to sign up after that.

I dont think I veered too much from my origial outline, although there were originally going to be a few more scenes of ‘experimentation’ from Scorpius. I squashed it down into a montage in the end though because I didn’t want things to get too repetitive and i was running out of ways to describe ‘awkward wanking with your best friend’.

The title is stolen from that episode of Buffy with the same name - the one with all the singing, otherwise known as the greatest episode of Buffy ever.

If anyone feels like reading 20k of Scorpius getting Albus to take part in his latest obsession (wanking, duh), then here it is: Once More, With Feeling

[walkonwalkonwithhopeinyourheart]

Why Liverpool aren't spending, why that actually makes sense, and why we should be celebrating! via /r/LiverpoolFC

Why Liverpool aren't spending, why that actually makes sense, and why we should be celebrating!

A bit of context: I'm really struggling to read how many people are upset at the transfer related news in the last week. I thought I'd put together a quick post to outline some context of why this is okay, why it even makes sense, and why a number of us just need to remind ourselves of what's happened over the last few years.

For the sake of argument, I've compared Liverpool and Chelsea, but the Liverpool points could be applied against just about anyone. Quick reminder: At this stage, the only confirmed transfer I can think of is Ziyech, but let's just assume Werner is done too. I don't believe anyone else has made a major signing.

Chelsea:

Haven't made any significant signings since 18/19 (like us) due to a transfer ban

Have sold Morata and Hazard for £140m in the same period. (More than the rumored initial outlay Coutinho money we credited for a number of our key signings).

Have not made any major infrastructure upgrades recently

Are owned by a billionaire who's seemingly conscious of not racking up insane amounts of debt, but still ultimately a billionaire who can fund transfers perhaps more fluidly than FSG are willing to

Going through a period of transition with a number of young players (on lower value contracts) in the senior side, alongside the fact that Willian and Pedro (both senior, high value) will be freeing up space on the wage bill. (In Feb, the wage bill was £285m)

Werner (As we're all upset about him) walks into the first team, on 200k per week wages.

Chelsea are in a dogfight for 4th, where we were a few years ago.

Liverpool:

Also haven't made any expensive transfer signings since 2018/19, though I would argue that if Minamino cost £40m, people would be a lot less upset. He was literally a player that we got AHEAD of United, amongst others. We were so excited at the time, stop writing him off.

Since 2018/19, we have given improved contracts to Klopp, Mane, Salah, Henderson, Firmino, Robertson, with VVD, Alisson and Gini all likely to be renewed this summer. Our wage bill earlier this year was £310m (Rumoured to be 2m shy of Real Madrid. Let that sink in.)

We have sold no-one of note since Coutinho. (We have sold less than £80m worth of talent, including loan fees, since we had our summer spending spree in 2018.).

We may have been hoping to generate around £100m revenue from Shaq (<20m), Origi (<£25), Wilson (<£20m), Grujic (<£20m), Lovren (<£10m) and Karius (<£5m), but as it stands, we may not be able to generate half that.

The main stand: £114m. The new training facility: £50m. They are still hoping to re-do the Anfield Road stand in the near future for £60m, which will be being budgeted for.

We are literally the best team in the world, 25 points ahead of 'giants' Manchester City. Werner doesn't walk into our starting line-up, and doesn't get 200k per week because he's not worth what our front three are to us, right now.

AFCON, a driving force behind our need strengthen the frontline, is no longer an urgent concern.

We have owners who expect Liverpool to operate within it's means - that means not getting ourselves into trouble by spending big when it's next to impossible for them to forecast accurately for the next 18 months. Yes, it means a lack of excitement at times, but it also means that whatever happens, our future is much safer than most.

Our new kit deal relies somewhat on the global economy. If people stop buying shirts and gear because they're tightening the belt because of a post-Covid recession, then we lose some of the potential gains we were hoping for.

Now I know people will point towards our success and our tv money as being another source of income, and they're right. But, hopefully, this gives you a holistic view of why right now, we're seemingly sitting tight. There is also something to be said for the fact that we've been told the club is going to review the situation as it develops. To add, since the VVD saga, has made a good habit of keeping their cards pretty close to the chest.

All in all, please stop complaining, please stop panicking. We have awesome owners, who have and are investing in this club. We are 25 points CLEAR and two wins away from being Premier League Champions. We are peaking. Imagine telling yourself two years ago this was where we'd be, you'd have never believed it because it's even better than City were that season, who were said to be the BEST TEAM EVER. We have awesome youngsters we love to boast about, we have Minamino. BELIEVE because they're about to give us what we've wanted for 30 years.

This is one of the greatest times in Liverpool history, and perhaps the greatest Liverpool side of all time, let's enjoy every single moment!

YNWA

P.S. Apologies if the writing is poor.

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Cretaceous

The top layer of the world, the last chapter among the prehistoric world saga. The longest period of the worlds creation, life was teaming, flowers blooming among blood stained teeth, ground and grass.

Literally can draw a chalk outline around the world, the fossils tell the stories. Battles for life, death, mates and dominance were the themes normal. High seas, lush coasts, shallow great lakes are beautiful on the outside, dare nit to perk within. The land ever changing, pieces still breaking, forming, sliding from one location to another. Time counting down to mass destruction.

Abruptly come to a halt, extinction once again plays a role. A world once more wiped clean of it's large meat eating tenants. Give a chance for life as we know it today to flourish and see it's potential; a world still unsure of it's new order of life, but it will find itself I time.

So many life cycles have come and gone. Prehistoric to Modern, what will be our end. Will we to see the blast of our extinction event coming from over head, spelling our end. Or will we survive to the worlds coming rebirth or end...?

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Liverpool are said to be ‘open to offers’ for as many as four first-team players this summer according to a report from Sunday World.  The report, which outlines RB Leipzig ace Ibrahima Konate as the Reds’ main target defensively, claims the club could be willing to listen to offers for Joel Matip, Divock Origi, Xherdan Shaqiri and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. Jurgen Klopp could oversee a minor overhaul this summer as the German manager looks to build a squad to challenge for the Premier League title once again after his injury-hit side fall miles behind Manchester City this term. Having run the big-spending City close on two occasions, Liverpool went one step further last season and eclipsed Pep Guardiola’s side. However, a dismal home run combined with slip-ups along the way have left the Reds floundering and in danger of missing out on Champions League qualification. A report from The Athletic has suggested the Anfield owners will make funds available to Klopp at the end of the season, however, supplementing those finances with sales would be beneficial. The aforementioned four players touted as potential outgoings have appeared in just 39 matches combined this season (Squawka). L4L’s VIEW Whilst in the cases of Matip, Shaqiri and Oxlade-Chamberlain, watching them leave would be tough as their spells on Merseyside have been blighted by injury, ultimately costing them their place – there is certainly a case for allowing all three to leave. As for Origi, unfortunately for the Belgian, it’s very much a case of thanks for the memories. Having given Kopites some glorious moments down the years, unfortunately, the striker isn’t of a level required, as proven time and time again this season in his fleeting outings. Using the market value tool on Transfermarkt, Liverpool could raise around £79m should they sanction all four departures. #premierleague, #livematch, #livestream, #skysports, #premierleaguetv, #epl, #epl2023, #premier league, #premierleaguetable, #epl table, #eplfixtures, #ipl2021 live, #premierleaguefixtures, #fantasypremier eague, #eplresults, #epllivescores, #premierleague results, #pltable, #chelseafixtures, #eplscores, #arsenalfixtures, #premier leaguestandings, #eplstandings, #plfixtures, #eplschedule, #ipllive 2023, #dstvpremiership, #premierleaguetable2023, #pslfixtures, #epllive, #premiershiptable, #eplresultstoday, #eplfixturestoday, #Bitcoin, #Dolars

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Liverpool, 2 months later, 'Climax Salah' will not be available for a certain period of time... Why? 먹튀검증

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Liverpool will not use Mohamed Salah (29), who is showing peak form for a period of time about two months later.

Salah Now, his performance is the best compared to any other football player in the world. From scoring, to dribbling and to his involvement in the air, he lacks overwhelming words. First of all, if you look at the attacking points alone, Salah appeared in 8 matches in the English Premier League (EPL) and scored 7 goals and 4 assists, ranking 1st in scoring and 2nd in assists. Salah's performance allowed Liverpool to maintain their lead.

He scored five goals in three appearances in the UEFA Champions League (UCL). Difficulties were expected as they were paired with Atlético Madrid, AC Milan and Porto, but Salah made the difference and Liverpool achieved all-time wins and are in first place. As if his first season with Liverpool, the 2017-18 season is emerging, his performances are a big boost for Liverpool.

His record is also impressive. Salah became the first Liverpool player to score in nine consecutive official matches and became the Liverpool UCL goalscorer over Steven Gerrard. Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp said, "Now Salah is better than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo." Liverpool fans are also very supportive.

Liverpool will not be able to utilize Salah, who is on a steep upward curve, since the end of December. The African Cup of Nations is here. The Egyptian attack nuke, Salah, is expected to be taken out unconditionally. If Egypt goes all the way up, Liverpool will have to play a total of 8 games (6 EPL games, 2 FA Cup games) without Salah. Along with Salah, Sadio Mane (Senegal) and Nabi Keita (Guinea) will also be missing.

This period is Boxing Day. Boxing Day is a time when many games are played in a short period of time, and the outline of the EPL winning team is usually revealed at this time. The reason is that the rankings are expanded according to the result of the match. Liverpool will face strong players such as Chelsea and Leicester City during this time. If they do not score more than a certain number of points, there is a strong possibility that they will be pushed out of the competition for the championship.

Another problem is that there are no substitutes other than Salah. There are players like Roberto Firmino, Diogo Jota, and Divock Origi, but no one will be as influential in attack as Salah. For Klopp, it's going to be a headache. It is an unavoidable situation, so it is necessary to prepare countermeasures.

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Premier League: Jurgen Klopp impressed with Harvey Elliott on Anfield Debut

Liverpool drew 5-5 with Arsenal in an Anfield thriller before going on to win the penalty shootout 5-4. Jurgen Klopp would be minded to tell his group of Liverpool youngsters it isn't always quite like this. Football fans can get Premier League Tickets from our website on discounted prices.

Five of the starting line-ups against the Arsenal were making a cheap home debut, the most projecting of which was Harvey Elliott who, at 16 years 209 days, became the youngest ever player to feature for the Liverpool at Anfield.

Harvey Elliott, similar to his fellow fledgling talents, learned more in inspiring 90-odd minutes than he perhaps would have done during an entire Premier League season with the under-23s.

The touch and dream that is already setting him away from each other were there, his deception frightening Arsenal forward Gabriel Martinelli into surrendering a penalty. So too the confidence to provoke the Jurgen Klopp into life when going to take a corner in the second half, a picture Klopp later acknowledged he loved.

Harvey Elliott, though, lost the ball for Arsenal's third goal, a tough lesson about the power of such high-octane games. Goalkeeper Caoimhin Kelleher could have done better with at least one Gunners goal, while 17-year-old Centre-back Sepp van den Berg was stable if somewhat raw.

Curtis Jones, no doubt rising at being unlucky to miss out on a start after exciting at MK Dons in the last round, played as if to prove a point on his second-half outline. And come to the penalty shoot-out, he had. This was a night where those youngsters had to grow up quickly.

Brewster and Williams make their mark

Rhian Brewster has had a long time to wait for his Anfield crossbow. Almost two-and-a-half years passed between the striker being on the seat against Crystal Palace to finally pacing on to the field in this Carabao Cup tie.

After the interval, though, Liverpool supporters finally got to see what Brewster was all about. There was the troublesome of the Arsenal backline, the pace to get in behind, the close control to bring team-mates into play, and the strength that drew a series of fouls. Brewster also holds a hint of threat, impulsiveness that will serve him well under Klopp.

So too for Neco Williams, a surprise starter at right-back having impressed the Liverpool boss during recent time training at Melwood. The 18-year-old Welshman showed no fear, warmed to this task in the second half and established the ability going forward regularly obvious for the U23s by putting in the cross for Origi's equalizer.

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Tottenham Hotspur will play Liverpool in the Champions League final after an astonishing week of results in Europe. ON THE CHALKBOARD Spurs headed into their clash with Ajax with a 1-0 deficit to overturn but fell 2-0 behind in Amsterdam. Mauricio Pochettino’s men, though, staged an astonishing comeback to win 3-2 away from home, with Lucas Moura scoring a hat-trick. Mauricio Pochettino cried at the full-time whistle, as did much of his coaching staff. Liverpool were also 3-0 behind on aggregate against Barcelona but produced another exceptional European night at Anfield, winning 4-0 to dump out Lionel Messi and Co. James Milner, like Pochettino, cried on the full-time whistle; Jurgen Klopp swore in a television interview. The final, then, will surely be one judged on emotion rather than tactical intuition. Both managers are exceptional at putting their teams together and creating systems within which their players thrive. But, at the end of the day, both Pochettino and Klopp are emotional men, they wear their hearts on their sleeves and they are completely unafraid to own their feelings in front of millions. It is inspiring, really, in an era of toxic masculinity but it will be interesting to see how the final will be decided. Will Pochettino stick with the attacking players who have got the club this far? Will he drop Lucas? Will he restore Harry Kane to the XI if he is fit? Will Klopp stick with Divock Origi? Will Mohamed Salah be back in the team? Will it be an excellent tactical decision that ultimately swings the final one way or the other? Or will emotion be the overriding factor? AN ALL-ENGLISH THRILLER Both Liverpool and Spurs are attacking teams at heart and caution will surely be thrown to the wind; this is a final after all. Klopp and Pochettino are often beaten with the ‘what has he won’ stick. And yet their first trophies while managing English clubs could well be the Champions League. Emotions, then, will surely be running high. If Spurs win, an 11-year trophy drought will be ended and Spurs will win the competition in its current incarnation for the first time. If Liverpool win, they will collect their sixth European trophy, outlining their elite credentials to millions around the globe. Whatever happens, expect the tears to flow. #ChampionsLeague #TottenhamHotspur #JurgenKlopp

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Transfer strategy outlined & Origi returns to training – Thursday’s Liverpool FC News Roundup

Transfer strategy outlined & Origi returns to training – Thursday’s Liverpool FC News Roundup

We round up the latest Liverpool news and transfer rumours on Thursday, following the Reds’ 2-0 victory at MK Dons. […]

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POWER RANKINGS: Raheem Sterling’s hat-trick sees him start in top spot

In a new feature for the 2019-20 season, Sportsmail brings you a Power Rankings table with the top 10 of the most popular every week players in the Premier League

The stories of the unraveling season, the rankings will offer a guide to players moving in and out of the top 10, depending on both their performance in previous games and also in recent weeks.

The Premier League returned this weekend with an exciting round of results. Champions Manchester City beat West Ham 5-0, Liverpool and Tottenham also recorded resounding victories while Manchester United routed Chelsea 4-0.

So who wins a place in the inaugural top 10? Read below …

10. Billy Sharp (Sheffield United)

Sheffield United was only promoted to get something out of the first weekend of the Premier League and get it it was appropriate that Sharp was the man to save a point for them.

The Blades legend climbed off the bench, stuck himself between the posts and when the ball broke into the area after a clever free kick, he did what he had done so many times before for his club and poked the ball in the back of the net

He has now scored in all four layers of the Football League, but few United goals will have meant as much as he did.

Sheffield United hero Billy Sharp came from the bank for a point saving at Bournemouth

9. Mohamed Salah (Liverpool)

The Egyptian star does not yet look at 100 percent sharpness – there were times during Liverpool & # 39; s 4-1 win over Norwich where he held on too long when a spirited pass that would have created an opening.

And that is perhaps the most encouraging aspect of Liverpool's Salah & # 39; s screening on Friday at Anfield. His raw finishing instinct is still intact, as evidenced by how cool he was swept home from the penalty kick after a neat exchange with Roberto Firmino.

Mohamed Salah started the campaign with a well-taken goal against Norwich

POWER RANKINGS

During the 2019-20 season, Sportsmail brings you a Power Rankings table with the top 10 hottest players in the Premier League every week.

The stories about the unraveling season, the rankings will offer a guide with players moving in and out of the top 10, depending on both their performance in the previous week and also in recent weeks.

8. Lewis Dunk (Brighton)

Brighton's 3-0 win over Watford was a remarkable statement by a side that struggled notoriously on the away in the Premier League. Dunk has endured a lot of uncertainty about his future, with Leicester linked to a £ 45 million move after the exit from Harry Maguire.

The 27-year-old, who has taken over the captain, produced a masterly display in Graham Potter & # 39; s first game as Seagulls boss – he shot an Andre Gray off the line and on the other side he almost scored himself before assisting the debut attack by Neil Maupay.

Lewis Dunk, the new Brighton captain, led by an example when she defeated Watford 3-0

7. Harry Maguire (Manchester United)

The perfect start could have hoped for everyone on Old Trafford after a move of £ 80 million. Maguire was commander and assured, his early impact already suggested that United will have more of a fixed axis this season.

If that's the case, who knows how far they can go? They will have to produce more assertive performances in the course of their campaign, since Chelsea started well on Sunday, but there is enough reason for optimism after Sunday's score and Maguire embodies it.

Harry Maguire produced an excellent showing on his Manchester United debut against Chelsea

6. Riyad Mahrez (Manchester City)

Perhaps the greatest evidence of Mahrez's position in City & # 39; s mount camera from comments by Pep Guardiola after the game, which explains why the Algerian Bernardo Silva played.

& # 39; Riyad called me after they won the Africa Cup of Nations. He said: "I only need 10 days. I want to come back soon". I like it. That's why I decide "okay, I want to play it". Bernardo had done nothing wrong, but there were some minor muscle problems. I want them to know that I trust them all.

& # 39; That is the truth. After four seasons, I don't like a player who's with us … I trust them and they have to compete with opponents and with each other. & # 39;

Mahrez played an important role in the City & # 39; s thrashing of West Ham. No one doubts the quality of Silva, but he will have to hit the ground just to justify the release of Mahrez in its current form.

Riyad Mahrez played the key role in the 5 -0 victory of Manchester City in West Ham

5. Harry Kane (Tottenham)

August is usually the most difficult month for Harry Kane, but, after he had ended injured last season, the captain of England has time to make up.

Aane Villa, holding on to what would have been a valuable point, stepped up and took the game off Dean Smith's side with a quick-fire double; his first was a typical instinctive left-hand finish, but his second, where he struck a low right foot around Bjorn Engels and out of Tom Heaton's reach, was excellent.

Harry Kane & # 39; s late brace helped Tottenham to hard-fought triumph against Aston Villa

4. Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool)

Norwich crumbled in the first half of Anfield but rarely found offensive full-backs producing displays such as Alexander-Arnold on Friday.

A penetrating run led to the movement that led to the strike of Salah and the English defender then unpacked Divock Origi with a lush floating pass in the area for the fourth of Liverpool. His rapid improvement shows no signs of delay.

Trent Alexander-Arnold was again dangerous bombing of defense for Liverpool

3. Ashley Barnes (Burnley)

The men of Sean Dyche achieved a striking victory over Southampton over Turf Moor, led by two outstanding goals from Barnes. His first will not make a nice look for Angus Gunn, who was crazy about a shot from the edge of the area, but Barnes had his own luck by shooting so early after he cleverly controlled a long ball.

His second was a stylish finish, sideways home first time after smart delivery by Erik Pieters.

Burnley striker Ashley Barnes took his two goals excellent in a 3-0 victory over Southampton

2. Marcus Rashford (Manchester United)

With Romelu Lukaku leaving for Inter Milan this season will be a greater dependence on Rashford and he started the campaign as a man enjoying the weight of expectation.

A double attack pushed United to an impressive opening day victory over Chelsea and Rashford, whose second goal came from a fantastic Paul Pogba pass, which will collide next week with bulky wolves.

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Marcus Rashford scored twice to lead United to an emphatic 4-0 victory over Chelsea

1. Raheem Sterling (Manchester City)

He was given a hat trick and could easily have had four if Sergio Aguero had him gave him the chance to take his penalty kick.

Most ominous, as Sterling continues with such a miraculous form for the goal, that he could save a number of strikes for Guardiola & # 39; s side this season.

His target number will be something to watch in 2019-20 – he has his number every season and 25 in all competitions last year.

After Saturday's treble, Sterling has four and Sportsmail columnist Jamie Redknapp has outlined his credentials as a potential Golden Boot winner.

Raheem Sterling & # 39; s hattrick underlined his credentials as a potential Golden Boot winner

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The major factor that will decide Tottenham & Liverpool's date with destiny - opinion

Tottenham Hotspur will play Liverpool in the Champions League final after an astonishing week of results in Europe.

On the chalkboard

Spurs headed into their clash with Ajax with a 1-0 deficit to overturn but fell 2-0 behind in Amsterdam.

Mauricio Pochettino’s men, though, staged an astonishing comeback to win 3-2 away from home, with Lucas Moura scoring a hat-trick. Mauricio Pochettino cried at the full-time whistle, as did much of his coaching staff.

Liverpool were also 3-0 behind on aggregate against Barcelona but produced another exceptional European night at Anfield, winning 4-0 to dump out Lionel Messi and Co. James Milner, like Pochettino, cried on the full-time whistle; Jurgen Klopp swore in a television interview.

The final, then, will surely be one judged on emotion rather than tactical intuition.

Both managers are exceptional at putting their teams together and creating systems within which their players thrive.

But, at the end of the day, both Pochettino and Klopp are emotional men, they wear their hearts on their sleeves and they are completely unafraid to own their feelings in front of millions.

It is inspiring, really, in an era of toxic masculinity but it will be interesting to see how the final will be decided. Will Pochettino stick with the attacking players who have got the club this far? Will he drop Lucas? Will he restore Harry Kane to the XI if he is fit?

Will Klopp stick with Divock Origi? Will Mohamed Salah be back in the team? Will it be an excellent tactical decision that ultimately swings the final one way or the other?

Or will emotion be the overriding factor?

An all-English thriller

Both Liverpool and Spurs are attacking teams at heart and caution will surely be thrown to the wind; this is a final after all.

Klopp and Pochettino are often beaten with the ‘what has he won’ stick.

And yet their first trophies while managing English clubs could well be the Champions League.

Emotions, then, will surely be running high.

If Spurs win, an 11-year trophy drought will be ended and Spurs will win the competition in its current incarnation for the first time.

If Liverpool win, they will collect their sixth European trophy, outlining their elite credentials to millions around the globe.

Whatever happens, expect the tears to flow.

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Liverpool news and transfers RECAP - Van Dijk praises De Ligt, Karius 'wanted by Bundesliga team'

Liverpool news and transfers RECAP – Van Dijk praises De Ligt, Karius ‘wanted by Bundesliga team’

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Origi outlines desire to play in any position for Liverpool

Divock Origi has spoken out on his desire to help the team and play in whatever position he is asked.

The natural striker has played an important role for Liverpool this year – featuring in eight of the last nine matches in all competitions, twice from the start.

And the 23-year-old has stated his desire to contribute positively…