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ngl whenever I see an arcane meta that has to do with season 2 I ignore it completely. season 2 and it's contents mean nothing to me
#don't talk to me abt that stupid ass mage viktor retcon#or ishas nonexistent character#or caits wackass “”redemption arc“”#or jayce losing his mind in that fucking cave#or ekko and powder in the au#or sevika getting a coucil seat. all of that means jack shit to me#arcane#arcane critical#vaguely#season 2 was so cheap and mediocre and all the weight of s1 writing and direction is lost this season#just so painfully mid and generic
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Isha and her dynamic with Jinx were both very undercooked. There was good set up, but the 2 bonding is sped run and then Isha dies after being in like what, 3 episodes? Which is emblematic of the quality in Arcane’s 2nd season as a whole. There’s a good set up, but the payoff is either nonexistent or executed poorly
It's not just undercooked- it's fuckin RAW. Like don't get me wrong, she was cute, but I had a feeling she wasn't gonna make it to the end, whether that was through death or some other thing. I'm sure there were ways she could've become her own person and had an entire relevant arc, but the way I see it, they never should've added her in the first place. She's a plot device, not a person. Which is a shame, because again, I LIKED her and her dynamic with Jinx.
But honestly? She feels more like a "happy ending epilogue" type character as she is, rather than an actual person with actual impact on the world around her (the story). But yeah, like you said, they set up a BUNCH of stuff and then just. Didn't do anything with it lmao. Like that whole Warwick thing? Unnecessary. He didn't have to be Vander. Noxus? Get rid of them. Also unnecessary. Half the storylines just fizzled out halfway through. We will never know what happened to Ekko's tree. And why did Mel need whatever the fuck was going on? Like don't get me wrong she served cunt, but she could've done that alongside the rest of the cast instead of spending half the season in a backrooms warehouse.
Ugh anyway all of this is to say you're so right and I hate this for us
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I don't know if this will qualify in your realm of ask and you can ignore if it doesn't. So here goes my ask. Some were saying that Jensen's tbt IG posting of him and Danneel (the November 2nd one) was actually done by her on his IG. What are you thoughts on the subject? Especially since she responded so quickly after he posted the picture.
Dear Anon,
Thank you for your question. I indeed wanted to talk aboutthis subject, as I don’t think most people understood what Jensen and D didwith that post and comment. See, in order to understand the reason behind what they did, I will have to go back a week before that. Please, bear with me.
Timeline of J2 Slander — Reasons & Damage Control
Wed, Oct 26th — Supernatural Episode 2
The episode causes a major rift in Fandom. And by Fandom Imean The Only Fandom that exists: Sam & Dean fans. Never in all my 12 yearsof being a SPN fan have I ever seen such uproar; so many people screaming theirdissatisfaction with storyline, character erasure, character being dumbed down to jumpstart the spin-off. However,instead of uniting for a common complain, what we saw were BiBros, SamStans,DeanStans fighting each other. Nobody was happy. That was the episode that broke fandom.
Sat, Oct 28th,NOLA Con — D at the Vendor’s Area
D sets up a Family Business Beer Co stand and sells merch at the vendor’s area.Fans line up to talk to her. Some TinHats are attackedfor wanting to meet her, and Hets and Hellers team up to bully them. Here’ssomething you need to understand about Hellers: they love the wives because intheir twisted logic, the wives invalidate TinHats/J2 and anything that could upsetus is game for them. Raise your hand you whose TinHat tweet/post was neverbashed by a minion.
Eventually, things evolve to an attempt to starta witch hunt.
Sun, Oct 29th,NOLA Con — J2 Panels
During the J2 Gold Panel, a questionabout pick up lines prompts a joke that the entire fandom had heard from J2before and no one had ever batted an eye (timestamp: 20:21).
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In the Afternoon Panel, J2 are asked whatlead roles in SPN, other than Sam & Dean, they’d choose to play.
What follows is the longest M*sha/C*stiel shade ever thrownby Jared and Jensen, individually or combined—see for yourself those 3 fullminutes (timestamp: 10:12 to 13:02):
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Once again, I’ve never seen J2 throw such enormous shade, Iguess it speaks volumes about how fed up they are with M*isha. You can see in thevideo the immediate reaction from Hellers booing Jared, who started the shade.
Now think with me: who’s the one Hellers most want out ofthe way because of their nonexistent ship? Jared. The two situations have onething in common: Jared. He was the one to mention the chloroform joke, and hewas the one to initiate and continue the M*sha/C*stiel shade. Now tell mewho Hellers were most pissed at? Jared.
You think I’m exaggerating? Here’s some foodfor thought.
Mon, Oct 31st— pseudo-article trashing J2
A wannabe author from a blog where literally anyone could bea part of, makes an unabashedly Heller post, accusing J2 of making a rapistjoke. To back up their allegations that “fandom was dragging J2” theyunsurprisingly add caps of D*estiel accounts. No agenda at all, as you can see.
[Let’s go back to the Sunday events for a minute. J2 bashedM*sha, Jared was the one starting the shade, Jared is the one they hate, Jaredwas the who told the chloroform joke this time around. Now tell me if thatwasn’t the reason behind that “article”?]
J2 fans lash on the blog’s account for tweeting the “article” and thetweet get deleted, but not the article.
Side note: Jaredattends 1 or 2 Halloween parties in Vancouver and takes pictureswith half the town’s population. Curiously enough, he was alone, no costume anddressed as if he had been dining outand decided to drop by. Oh, wait…
Tue, Nov 1st— T*een V*gue reposts article
What could have well been stopped by CW/J2’s reps on Monday, gets the unexpected and undeserved traction: a bigger, more accredited,teen-oriented website reposts the pseudo-article. No facts were checked, no oneapproached J2 for a statement and guess what? The same H*ellers’ caps werepresent; it was a mere copy of the previous article.
The damage is done and more websites publish the same storywith slight variations but none of them favors or approaches J2 for a statement.The articles get reposted outside of the US.
The slander shocks J2 Shippers, TinHats and Hets who,unexpectedly, unite in at least three hashtags to show their love and supportfor Jared & Jensen:
#IStandWithJ2
#ISupportJaredandJensen
#ILoveJ2Because
J2 Fans flood the websites that posted the slander with commentspointing out all the good things the Js have done for fans, Mental HealthAwareness, charities, etc. During these 48h of slander, I didn’t seeone single website or accredited institution show their support for J2, exceptfor Attitudesin Reverse.
Not a single peep from J2 co-stars, production, nothingexcept for the one you’d least expect: Mart Pellegrino posts a simple andhonest tweetpraising J2:
J2 Fans retweet and thank him for being the onlycast member/peer who dared support J2. It seems that the only ones mature enough to be honest and recognize that Supernatural only is what it is becauseof J2, are Mark Pellegrino and Mark Sheppard.
Nov 2nd —J2 issue a statement
Reps for both Jared and Jensen issue combined statementsaffirming they do not condone rape and the subject apparently dies down.
J2 Fans speculate whether this incident will cause Jared andJensen to share less on Con panels. Some even fear the possibility the boysmight eventually cut down the number of Cons.
Jensen post a pictureof him and D
Contrary to what Jensen had been doing until now, he poststwo different caps, one for his IGAccount and another slightly different one on Twitterwith an added “❤ u”:
The picture is apparently cozy, once they’re sorta hugging. However,some point out how weird the picture is with her half smile and peace sign, andhis closed off face. Does that scream couple to you? …
As you well pointed out, Anon, D quickly replieswith more information about the #tbt picture: they were at Cabo, they were meeting the parents andthey’ve been together for 11 years and going strong.
Eleven years?? Come again? Oh, wait, she’s justdoing her job, I mean, Jensen was the one who started that 11 years story,precisely in Oct 26th 2007, at an interview he gave for TV Guidetitled UpClose with Supernatural’s Jensen Ackles: Part 2:
So, one year before that 2007 interview, when they filmed TenInch Hero. How convenient.
Check out the whole story at Anna’s blog.
How interesting that he managed to “hide” his one-yearrelationship from anyone, right?
The funny thing is that apart from that statement he rarely,if ever, mentioned the amount of years they've been together. The only time that comes to mind was at Kelly & Ryan.
Well, Anon, all this ridiculously long post to conclude thatJensen and D were only using social media to take the focus off of the eventsfrom the previous days. Did you see how many RTs/Likes both his posts had?
Twitter: 4.5K RTs/ 36K Likes
IG: 632K Likes/ 3,905 comments(as of today)
Did you see the hets and Hellers swooning over their love?
Jensen did what had to be done to change the focus and giveFandom something else to talk about. BUT much like his mentor Kim Manners wouldsay, ‘give them what they want in a way they don’t expect.’ Jensen did postsomething for PR purposes but on his owns terms. Just look at his face on thepicture he chose to represent how much he loves D.
Bonus: Jensen low key liked Mark’s tweet.
#jensen and d's picture#j2 slander#11 years together#mark defending j2#tv guide 2007 interview#IStandWithJ2#ilovej2because#ask#nola#Timeline of J2 Slander — Reasons & Damage Control#102017#timeline#J2102017#J2112017#112017
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Jinx with stillwater was purely about saving isha, I will not discredit that it was a big thing, and in the end helped other zaunites, but the reason behind it was selfish and not with the intention of making up for all the crap she achieved with silco. All the years of zaunite hurt she inflicted. Not to mention the big reason zaun never got independence and continued to be scrutinized started because of jinx actions in conjunction with silco.
Making her grieve isha isn't necessarily a redemption either. It's giving character depth and also was giving her familiarity with the trauma vi went through as a big sister and being responsible of people that look up to her.
To say caitlyn's was nonexistent is just a blatant lie and ignoring the entirety of episode 6 and act 3. Caitlyn went against ambessa to help vi on her mission to save vander. Caitlyn held ambessa accountable, ambessa was going to take control of piltover and zaun either way, but caitlyn kept it from becoming a full on assault invasion.
Caitlyn battling ambessa to the death, literally to right the wrongs she allowed to take place. Giving an eye and nearly her entire self, just proves how much she was willing to sacrifice.
Caitlyn giving up her seat for sevika/zaun to have a voice at the council table. Caitlyn allowing jinx freedom, despite everything jinx did.
Caitlyn didn't put zaunites in prison. Rictus and the noxians did that, now that's not to say she wasn't complicit, but she didn't physically do this. Yes she is still accountable but there is a difference that should be understood.
Gassing chembarons, is not the entirety of zaun, she went after a drug syndicate, thats not to say it isn't harmful, but it's less lethal then straight up bombing the entire undercity. Zaun was basically in it's own version of civil war, firelights and ekko having to save people and bring them underground to a secret location to keep them safe from chembarons and shimmer. We literally she them targeting children, isha.
Getting rid of the chembarons is a positive thing, but because caitlyn did it everyone wants to argue that, as if ekko hadn't tried to do the same as well as vi and jayce in s1. Yes we can say the way it was done is morally questionable, but people need to stop saying she gassed ALL of zaun.
Jinx and sevika used the gray as well, we physically see children get hurt from it? So what then?
To water down how momentous caitlyn betrayal is to ambessa and her status. Simply because caitlyn wasn't thrown in jail or tortured by zaun for her discretion.
What consequences did jinx face for all the years with silco, the bombing and terrorism on piltover, the killing of councilors out of selfish spite?
And I ask again how does all this relate to ekko or timebomb in canon timeline? Caitlyn actually is shown to be remorseful and shows that this is just the beginning. She is taking steps towards the betterment of zaun and piltover. She ALLOWED vi to set jinx free. She gave vi that moment. Which is a direct correlation on their relationship. She betrayed ambessa to help vi with vander. Again a direct correlation to their relationship.
bro watched a video yesterday that criticises arcane im an actually political and constructive manner and realised why I prefer fanfic caitvi. in fanfic, the hidden and (sometimes purposely) ignored details can be explored AND caitlyn can actually have a redemption arc
explains why I've been unconsciously more into timebomb than caitvi this season tbh
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