#on 5x11 for context

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i'm sorry THIRTEEN AND FOREMAN KISS????? i did NOT see this one coming. sue me for assuming they were gay in opposite directions

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PRENTISS & MORGAN | 5.11

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dialogue for sure !

[userautumn]

i thought you would be happy with buck getting his oh moment and realizing his feelings for eddie but i guess you really were sucked into the bucktommy fanon created huh. Shame that you won't be able to enjoy canon buddie when it happens.

This is the only message I am going to answer about this specifically since I initially brought the topic up on my blog.

So, first of all, by definition, BuckTommy isn't fanon. Fanon is a ship or character that is completely generated by fandom. Buddie, for example, is fanon. Although they share a strong platonic bond, their relationship is not textually romantic. They do not kiss. They are not textually established romantic partners. Eddie said in the last episode that he is straight. So Buddie only exists within a fandom context. Conversely, BuckTommy is established as canon. Buck has touched mouths with that man on-screen. They were established as boyfriends and, now, ex-boyfriends. So it is, quite literally, impossible for BuckTommy to be fanon, even if fans do extrapolate, embellish, or reconstruct that relationship for their own pleasure. So, that's number one.

Number Two: According to this fandom, Buck and Eddie have had their oh moments a combined total of six times now at least (3x15, 3x03, 4x13, and 5x11, to name a few) and absolutely nothing concrete has come out of these events. The shooting is the closest we ever got, and that was four seasons ago. I don't begrudge anyone for reading that moment at the end of tonight's episode within a romantic Buddie context. Go absolutely nuts and have fun with it. But to me, that moment, such as it was, was more of the same - Buck or Eddie look at each other a certain way, or have evident (non-romantic) feelings related to the other, fandom loses their minds, they speculate, convince themselves they're right, nothing happens, rinse and repeat. I'm personally tired of the spin cycle.

I said I wanted strides toward Buddie canon to be made crystal clear and that's still true. You clearly see things differently (and that's alright), but outside the Buddie fanfiction hivemind, tonight's episode was not crystal clear. There was no discussion of Buck's feelings. He didn't vent them to Maddie or Bobby or Eddie himself. He didn't say, out loud, or indicate in any explicitly romantic way that he has feelings for Eddie. Buck having feelings about Eddie leaving is not the same as having feelings for him. They are best friends. They are family, actually. If Eddie leaves, Buck is losing the anchor to his support system and his (pseudo-)son. That's a big deal. That is an extraordinary weight to carry, especially on the heels of a significant breakup, and especially while dealing with abandonment issues. There was nothing romantic about that and, reducing that moment to a romantic reading, seems... odd. To me.

I'd like to think I'd still be able to enjoy Canon Buddie if it happens tbh. I actively write fic about those two in my spare time even though I keep my conversations about them to the DMs. But if I'm not able to enjoy it, it won't be because of the ship itself, it will be because I finally tired of the abject cruelty that's cropped up in this space. There's this unspoken rule in fandom that what happens during hiatus stays in hiatus, and we all just silently agree to move on from it when the show comes back. But I'm having a hard time with that this year because I've seen and experienced some absolutely insane things from this fandom the last few months that have stuck with me. So. Maybe I won't still enjoy it, but I hope I will.

I was really angry with the (non-Buddie related) content of this episode when you messaged me, so you probably thought or hoped I would bitch and curse you out, and we'd do this whole back and forth thing that would inevitably lead to you getting blocked. But I meant what I said - I have no interest in arguing with anyone about this show. We're not going to agree, and that's okay. I'm not your inspirational Buddie Warrior, and that's also okay. I have too much to deal with than to actively engage in internet beef. What is is what is, whether you or I or both or neither of us like it, and arguing about it isn't going to change it. So we might as will just learn to live with it and each other as best as we can.

I'm going to go watch TV now.

[stagefoureddiediaz]

Hello to the almost same jacket for Eddie!!! Aisha and Anirudh really are the A team today - giving us all the goods!!! Aisha is doing gods work making sure we all understand that wardrobe really do think of everything and that colour and fit is very carefully chosen - Thank you queen!

the cuffs are different, so it isn’t the same jacket (also the fabric is a bit different - its hard to tell from the IG live still, but it isn’t herringbone weave like the 6x05 one is) but its close enough to draw a few parallels 🤓😎

first things first though - No watch Eddie 👀👀👀👀👀

Right jackets - fun things!! the khaki olive drab green is a very Eddie colour, but the fact we have a jacket cut in aa very similar style to the one form 6x05 is very interesting. the scene we see the 6x05 one in is very focused on Eddie being with Hen and Karen and them displaying their love and pride in one another. Obviously the scene is very much centred on hen moving on from firefighting (setting up 6x06 and her changing her mind) but the Eddie part of that scene is centred on the joyful expression of Queer love and him witnessing it. 

One of the key things about this colour way on Eddie when he’s wearing it as a jacket is that it is both his comfort blanket and an indicator of his mental health. Eddie has only really started wearing these olive drab jackets in season 5 - the one exception being 3x12 when he goes to apologise to Ana for overreacting about Chris!

as a result we invariably see Eddie in the olive drab colour jackets when he’s either struggling mentally  - 5x10 quitting the 118, 5x11 not going to the bar or at the Equestrian centre in 5x14 - or when he’s not necessarily struggling mentally per say, but something in the scene is important for Eddies storyline in connection with his mental health - such as in the scene from 6x05. The difference in them to be found is in the fit - the silhouette - the ones from season 5 are all much more loose fitting - oversized, and help make him look either ill (Equestrian centre jacket I’m looking at you!!) or like he’s trying to protect himself in some way. this makes total sense when you combine the choice of olive drab as a colour and Eddies military background!

So I am going to go out on a bit of a limb (as I have zero script context to work with here which always makes costume speculating a bit more difficult) and say that this new but slightly different jacket will be bringing us something in the same ball park as that one from 6x05 - especially if we are getting a firefam leaving at the end of the day or arriving in the morning scene from this - or something similar (because they wouldn’t be in the firehouse if that wasn’t the case!!) because it is better fitted than the season 5 ones, but its still olive drab. This being for either 6x17 or 6x18 is pretty important - Love is in the air, or pay it forward - really plays into that idea of something in a scene being important for Eddies journey in connection with his mental health - if its some form of coming out arc for him then I will be partying hard over the fact that the wardrobe team have subtly been showing us the way through Eddies olive drab jackets!!!

Then of course there is the fact that Buck is back in light blue - for the millionth time in season 6!!! If you’ve been reading my other costume metas from season 6 you will know I’ve been fascinated by the use of Blue on Buck in this season (metas can be found on my pinned post if you want a read!), especially pale blues and I’m very 👀👀 over the fact he’s still in pale blue at the end of the season! Also the white high tops are still there and they mean Buck moving forward on his journey - so combined with the pale blue - I’m very very excited!!!

[mayasdeluca]

What's a Marina little moment that just makes you swoon every time

Well as usual when I get asked these questions I can't narrow it down to just one so I thought of a few, let me know if I've missed any good ones!

4x08: Carina whispering 'okay?' after she delivers her speech to Maya about what they have is fantastico and all that and then Maya whispers back 'yeah'. I think that's so cute especially in context after that important conversation and then when Maya tells Carina she can keep making her point... 😍

4x11: The exchange of smiles they give each other through the mirror after they delivered a baby together. So cute!

4x16: Maya mouthing the last line of the song Vic sings at their wedding while looking into Carina's eyes. I love that so much.

5x11: Maya saying I love you to Carina and kissing her before going to work as Carina hands her the coffee she made her and Maya thanks her for it. Just a simple sweet domestic moment and I wish we got more of those little things.

5x15: Carina pulling the blanket over Maya when they're all sleeping in the same room at the station to support Andy, making sure Maya is covered and warm before she cuddles right up against her. 🥰 I'm glad we got that sweet background moment in an intense episode like that.

5x17: Maya waking Carina up with a kiss when she gets home from her shift (I mean obviously! We had wanted that for so long!) and then Carina mouthing I love you to Maya later on in that scene. Super sweet.

6x10: Maya admitting that she's afraid to leave Carina because she doesn't know when she'll see her again and when a tear rolls down her cheek, Carina wiping it away 😭 and the forehead kiss that follows of course.

6x14: 'Can I take you out again?' 'Maybe. Call me.' Enough said 🥵😍

6x15: Maya cradling Carina's head in her hands when talking about wanting to put in the work to rebuild them and Carina just buries her head in Maya's chest. 😭 I love this scene so much.

6x17: Maya picking Carina up bridal style. Another long overdue moment!

[whateverthedragonswant]

6x11 - The Flower Theme for Buck

Alright, can we talk about the flowers theme from this episode for a second?

As soon as Margaret mentioned about taking Maddie to the flower market in the beginning of the episode, I knew something was up.

Margaret: "Hey, once the weather lets up, I thought we could go to that flower market downtown. Maybe get some stuff in the house, a couple of plants maybe."

Maddie: "Oooh, I'm not sure they'd live a long life here but it's worth a shot. Jee loves flowers, anything bright and pretty."

The important context here is that Margaret was just complimenting the house and Maddie saying it's a work in progress but it's starting to feel like home.

Then we go into Buck's coma dream and we see:

All of the flowers are bright colors alongside handmade cards from his "students".

Then we see the Buck arriving at Maddie and Doug's house:

More brightly colored flowers.

Then, once Buck is out of his coma and he returns home, we see:

The flowers are not these pretty, bright colors anymore. And Maddie says: "Yeah, there's a lot more at the firehouse." Not only do we not see any handmade cards (which makes sense because Christopher was at the hospital to see Buck & Jee is too young most likely for that), we also see the colors have more of a golden, autumnal tone, and there are gift baskets sent as well (rather than home cooked food like Margaret mentions people had been dropping off in the coma dream). Which you would think that since Buck was the one in the hospital, he would return home to home cooked food instead of it being sent to Chim and Maddie's. But there's a reason for that.

I believe this is meant to show that while not everything in life is perfect for Buck (or Maddie or Chim), it's the life they have, the life they chose (and keep choosing), and the life that's theirs. Buck went back to his life for himself and he knows now that he's enough. He doesn't need the fantasy version of his parents or life; he's fine with how things are. And I think that's why they showed the not so bright flowers, the lack of handmade cards (which we know Buck loves even before this episode plus the whole kids theme of his arc this season), and the gift baskets instead of home cooked food. Not to mention, that there is a current cooking theme/symbolism for Buck (and Eddie, see episode 5x11 for reference, ironic on the episode #'s 1 whole season apart, right?) and him being the one to cook this season. But what clinches it is what Maddie says about there being more well wishes (along the same lines of what he's seeing at his loft) at the firehouse, where we know his firefam originates out of and how close to his heart that family is. Even though this scene is him fully accepting his parents (& biofam) as they are, we know how important the 118 is to him which of course includes Eddie, Bobby, Chim, Hen, Athena, etc.

So I think the writers chose this theme to show us that while life might not always be perfect or the fantasy version of what we want (especially when it comes to the parents in this episode), it's the choices we make and how we choose to see things. Like Buck's found family in the 118 and that while he might be the sperm donor for Connor and Kameron, he still has a family *cough* the 118 and Buckely-Diaz family *cough cough* & he still is a dad *cough* Christopher *cough cough*. It might not have happened in the way he envisioned it, but he did get there/is getting there.

[haydenthewitch]

Re: Shirtless Eddie

No idea what you're planning, but here's a list of episodes that include shirtless Eddie in various contexts.

2x01 2x04 2x10 3x05 3x08 5x11 7x01 7x05 7x06 8x06

Anyone feel free to add in case I missed something!

THANK YOU ANON

[donttouchtheneednoggle]

Elyan snickered a bit as he sat up, eyes moving past the bed for the first time, then he froze as they landed on Lancelot.

For a moment the two of them stared at each other, both paralyzed with shock. Elyan recovered first.

“YOU!” he snarled, snatching up the knife from the plate and launching himself out of bed. Well, tried to; his legs immediately buckled and he fell to the floor with a cry.

Lancelot surged forward on instinct, reaching out concernedly, but Elyan pointed the knife at him again, clutched in both shaking hands. “Stay away from me!”

(x)

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Out of Context

The Sopranos | 5.11 "The Test Dream"

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X-Files S05E11

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[extasiswings]

scream you dont need to reply to this but i cant message bc we aren't mutuals but i just wanted to say thank you for your hot takes abt the *** article-- i didnt read it bc i know it would just piss me off more BUT seeing the ripples through the fandom (right before a new episode we are excited for nonetheless) had me back in to see what people were saying and yeah, it's just nice to come here and see you calling it like it is :)

You’re welcome! I’m just—*sigh*

The thing is, I knew this was going to be a shitshow. That’s why I preemptively started making posts about it days ago as soon as we heard an article would be forthcoming. And I was prepared to roll my eyes and be frustrated and annoyed at the inevitable pessimistic doomsday despairing. What I wasn’t anticipating was the level of upset from my fellow queer folks, not about the implication (because we’re all still Buddie canon truthers) but because of the rhetoric. And I get it, I do, because it’s incredibly hurtful to have your lived experiences dismissed out of hand, to have someone reiterate the same sort of thing that many of us have had people say or assume about our own identities and relationships and feelings—that our experiences are invalid, that we’re confused, that we don’t actually know what we want or what we’re seeing—the sort of will-they-won’t-they “it’s all just platonic and you’re reading into it” lines that get bandied about so readily for non-canon het couples come with a certain amount of baggage when placed in the context of non-canon queer couples. Because it inadvertently steps into a very particular strain of queer pain. And straight people just…do not get that. The fact that it isn’t intentional doesn’t make it hurt less, but they don’t, and I do think it’s worth acknowledging that. And I also think it’s worth acknowledging that as much as we as fans don’t have a blueprint for this situation (a slow burn non-canon queer ship going canon), neither do the showrunners.

That said, I also do think it is incredibly important for everyone to be aware of the myriad issues involved in this piece. It was written by someone who has a very well-known agenda of trying to claim the show is terrible about queer rep (blatantly false) and queerbaiting (also not true) and is extremely aggressive, combative, and unprofessional in interviews while trying to make that point. We don’t know the questions he asked, or how many questions he asked, or how he went about asking them. We don’t know if the quotes that were published were part of a longer response, and we don’t even know if they were the first response—it is entirely possible that initial answers were more polite/vague/cagey and he pushed and pushed and pushed until he got a soundbite that he could use to paint them in the worst light possible (and when someone is baiting you by asking the same thing over and over and you can’t get specific, yeah, you’re going to get frustrated and say things you don’t mean—and maybe we don’t know for a fact that’s what happened here, but based on prior experience, particularly re the tone and questions of the post-finale interview where he explicitly accused Tim of queerbaiting, it seems likely). So basically…all that to say, I think everyone’s feelings are valid, but I also think it’s worth directing the anger and hurt to the right places—to the person who manipulated the situation specifically for this result for clout and to serve a personal agenda. That’s my two cents.

(Also, as a reminder, this wasn’t the piece they signed up for either—it was just supposed to be a standard PR piece for 5x11 and he asked extra questions because there was time. It wasn’t the focus of the interview and wasn’t necessarily something they were prepared to discuss)

[stagefoureddiediaz]

Things to look out for in 5b!

I said I’d write a post with all the things to look out for in 5b from a costume/ colour theory perspective so here we go!! I’m gong to start off with the non costume stuff first!

Ropes

Lets start with the ropes! you can read my original theory here should you wish to, but in summation red rope = danger - not always for the person attached to it, but the person they come into contact with (See Chimney in the well for reference!) 

yellow rope = communication - the use of yellow ropes is highlighting important conversations or moments and cutting them is significant because it means the characters have stopped communicating - Eddie in the well - cuts his yellow line - he then changes his will as a result but doesn’t communicate this with Buck - Eddie chose to cut his line and chose to keep the will a secret. 

we haven’t seen any rope rescues yet in season 5 - and we know of at least 2 that will be happening in 5b - and Buck is definitely on a red rope for one of them so keep your eyes peeled! 

Christopher

The posters etc all have meaning in Chris’s bedroom and its important to see what the state of play is with regards to dinosaurs and space! I’m expecting to see space, but little to no dinosaurs. We should also keep an eye out to see if the California posters that have appeared in 5a are still there and if there is anything new. Also keep an eye out for the fox drawing that’s been watching over Chris sleeping since 3x04 - the sneaky fox is there for a reason I know it (I just haven’t figured out what yet - although I am leaning towards the gingerbread man theory)

Staying on the theme of Christopher - keep an eye on what t-shirts he is wearing - the graphic ones all have important meanings and references - for example the slippery slope one he wears in 5x10 is foreshadowing the slippery slope Eddie is on in regards to his trauma - Chris’s own breakdown was the thing that has pushed Eddie down the slippery slope - now he’s on it, there is no going back! so keep looking out for them. We should also expect to see space themed tees around Buck (and don’t get me started on the star wars backpack - I’ll cover it in my 5x11 meta when I get a bit more context!)

Patches

Then we have the flag patches on the uniform shirts - these are fun to spot!! if the edges are frayed as in the example below (where you can see the difference between Buck and Eddies patches!)- we are looking at mental stuff - as in a deterioration in mental wellness/ some major internal struggles when the flag patch is frayed - the more frayed it is the more serious it is!

Eddies has been the one we’ve seen becoming increasingly frayed over time, but Buck, Hen, Chimney and Bobby are not free from frayed patch theory either - I’m still working on a full list (I had to many other things to get complete in hiatus so this went on the back burner) which I hope to get a chance to do in the between seasons hiatus!

Buck

Buck and White shirts - I’m not the one who originally wrote a post about this theory, but it has always always played out. Buck in a white shirt is a bad omen - we don’t want to see him in a white shirt because it means danger for either himself or someone close to him (the exception for this will be if we see he is actually in a white shirt in that moment from the trailer when Maddie walks in to his apartment because it will be the death knell for his relationship and that is the kind of danger I can get behind!)

Buck in White trainers - this is a good thing - my theory is that it means moving on/forward - it is all about Bucks Journey! You can read the full theory in this post if you’d like to! But generally we can expect Buck to be moving forwards with his life journey if he’s in white trainers - he’s not stuck - which is why we’ve only seen them in 5x03 when Eddie has taken Bucks advice to break up with Ana and in 5x04 when Chimney hits Buck and then in the balcony scene with Eddie - a set of instances when Buck moves forward by coming clean to Chim about what he knows (the burden he’s been carrying!) and then learning a bit more about himself and others through Eddie!

Then we have the use of pattern and colour on Buck - to keep it super brief - the smaller the patterns on Bucks clothing the more internal he’s becoming - we’ve seen this especially prevalent around Tay Kay where he is wearing a lot of patterned clothing as he’s retreated more in on himself - hiding parts of who he is to make his relationship work. He has also been wearing a lot more dark coloured clothing when around her so once the relationship is over, expect to see that slowly change! Yellow/ ochre shades mean communication and Buck wears it a lot! So expect to see conversations or information that is important being provided in scenes where he has yellow on!

also keep and eye out for how many shirts Buck wears and when he wears them - he’s trended towards more formal shirts when the important scenes are around Taylor and more comfortable clothing - such as hoodies etc - when the relevant scenes are with others (especially Eddie 👀)

Eddie

Expect to see Eddie in a darker and more muddy colour palette in at least the first few episodes of 5b, and also expect those clothes to look a little oversized/ill fitting, as well as a bit worn and ‘sad looking’ - basically a slightly less put together Eddie which will be showing in a visual way that he’s in the grip of his trauma etc. I fully expect to see him returning to the Henley’s and his more traditional colour ways as he starts to move through the season and starts to heal - it’s entirely possible that we might see a new look on him entirely as he embraces who he is and who he wants to be (maybe some warmer tones and less army coloured clothing!)

its also going to be interesting to see if his flag patch gets frayed again as he works at dispatch and gets into his breakdown!

Then we have my two main working theories (and another that I’m still grappling with)

Stripe theory is about characters changing direction and or moving on/ starting a new path - 

Check/plaid theory is all about significant events happening - the characters in check or plaid will be the ones involved in the emergencies in some form 

the one I’m still grappling is about the use of black tops with khaki/drab green jackets/ over-shirts - We’ve seen this look on Athena, Eddie and Maddie across the seasons, and i’m leaning towards this being about protecting/serving the family purpose - eg. Eddie telling Chris about Shannon, and telling his family (the 118) that he’s leaving them. Athena going trying to find Eddies shooter in 4x14, Maddie in 4x03 when Maddie and Chimney find out the sex of their baby - it’s their first ‘first’ together and it’s the moment when they become a family (in a metaphorical sense).

Finally other random snipets to look out for.

Look at what colours and patterns characters are wearing - they all gave meaning and can hint at what that character is thinking/ feeling etc. In essence the smaller the pattern and the more of it there is the more that character is going through something internally (see buck and his patterned v. Non patterned shirts as an example).

I will make a full colour theory post so you can see/learn about colour meanings I’ve just not had the chance to finish it yet, but the darker and more muted or muddy the colours the more internal stuff is going on - I.e Eddie’s and Maddies trauma or Athena struggling with her own demons.

Keep an eye on Hens wardrobe too - she wears a lot of patterns that have meanings - such as this crane shirt.

I could go on but this is already pretty long so I’ll leave it here as these are the main things to be on the look out for and check out my master list of costume stuff pinned to the top of my blog if you’d like to know more. I will be writing post episode analysis so keep an eye out for those as well!

Enjoy 5b everyone - hope you’ve got your seat-belts fastened - I think it’s going to be an emotional roller-coaster!