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omegaversetheory · 4 months ago
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Hi I got a question.
Its common for alphas to bite omegas nape out of instinct. In some head cannons omegas got their pheromones glands on their nape.
But what about betas ?? Is it ok for them not bite an omega or do they still have to. Specially when a beta are married to an omega.
Kissing and biting the nape of your mate is instinctual no matter what dynamic you are or they are. It's often highlighted within alpha/omega relationships to reinforce the power dynamics that are often associated with that narrative.
A beta married to an omega would still be attracted to the glands on their neck - but the omega would be attracted to the same glands on the neck of their beta as well.
Now you could make it interesting by writing some cultural rules in your au that make the nape of an individual off limits to anyone except their bonded partner, or that it was only acceptable for omegas to be bitten by alphas. This would reinforce a more traditionalist and conservative set of values that are popular within the genre and could be fun to explore.
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beatingthedeadhorse · 1 year ago
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Let's start some discourse!!
One of the things often overlooked in A/B/O or Omega-verse stories and media is how trans people, or those who wish to be a different sub or primary gender, are represented and handled. I've read a couple of threads around the net of people who realised they were Trans or gender non-conforming due to the genre, and so I would like to hear the peoples' thoughts on how this should look in an Omega-verse setting. How do you think it would be managed? What worldbuilding would be around it? Would certain cultures make it illegal? Would it be something biologically natural or easy to do as a choice, by exposing oneself to different stimuli to promote the emergence of a new gender?
How would this look to you? Have you read any interesting Fics that explore this concept? Let me know!
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smolfloof · 2 years ago
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To properly consider the answer to this question, we must look at our definitions of 'gay' and 'straight' and compare them to the omegaverse's definitions.
We often hear designations such as 'alpha' 'beta' and 'omega' referred to as secondary genders, which brings about the question: Would an alpha/omega relationship, regardless of primary genders, be classified as 'straight'?
For the sake of argument, let's say it would. This means that 'beta' would be a mix of nonbinary and sex indifferent/positive aces. This brings about a whole new type of catholicism.
Now consider, we've established that alpha/omega is 'straight', and that anything else is 'gay'. Where would the catholic church fall on betas? Would they be considered 'below' the other secondary genders, since they have no discernable purpose in reproduction? Would they be considered at all?
So here's my take on the omegaverse catholic church: Alpha/omega pairings, as the omegaverse equivalent of 'straight', are held in high regard. Omegas are criticized for attempting to find their own pleasure, as are alphas. Betas are criticized for being born at all. Having a child that is a beta is a shame on the family, as the child can not take part in the sacred alpha/omega bond. There are likely gender roles associated with secondary sex characteristics, with omegas in nurturing positions, betas in Healthcare, and alphas in leading positions.
This brings to mind other questions, such as:
If there are secondary gender roles, are there initiatives to push back against them? Is there an alpha initiative to get them into Healthcare and child care? Is there an omegan initiative to get them into medical jobs and leadership positions? Are there omeganists? Are betas pushed into Healthcare jobs even when their passions and talents lie elsewhere? Are there trans-secondary gender people? Is the social hierarchy built on the idea that it's alpha/omega, not beta/omega? Are there hormone treatments for individuals looking to transition out of their birth secondary sex?
Now, to answer all of this, we must consider-
Okay. So a lot of Catholics seem to think that gay sex is a sin because it is performed without the intent of procreation. Thus I give you the worst theological conversation starter of all time: is gay sex still a sin in the omegaverse equivalent of the Catholic church?
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greaseonmymouth · 5 months ago
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I saw this shared around on Threads (why do I go there, I hate it) and commented on as 'this article is so good' and 'must read' including by a few people whose opinion I normally respect, and seeing as monsterfucking and monster everything is like a special little interest for me, I of course instantly clicked through to read it
and I have to say
what the everloving heterosexual fuck is this
two fat paragraphs about omegaverse that don't even mention its origins - I mean - I just - gaze upon this phrase, and despair:
During estrous, Omegas’ vaginas ooze with “slick,” responding to the Alpha’s intoxicating pheromonal perfume.
IT'S CALLED "SLICK" BECAUSE IT'S FROM SELF-LUBRICATING ANUSES. THE REASON THE OMEGAS NEED SELF-LUBRICATING ANUSES TO BEGIN WITH IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE VAGINAS.
I. have been rendered figuratively speechless. the straights don't know what slick is. the. i. how. how did we end up like this
their dicks swell at the base, creating a “knot,” which lodges them inextricably in the Omega’s slick-soaked (I am so sorry) vagina.
"(I am so sorry)" girl you're writing an article about monster smut and then you have the gall to be embarrassed by the this tame ass (or should i say vagina?) heterosexual omegaverse?
okay, okay. deep breaths. we've only just got started. we started by covering Morning Glory Milking Farm, a minotaur/human erotic romance novel, which well - I've read it, and it's not a bad book by any means, it was actually very very good, a solid story with a great cast and perfectly paced and satisfying romance and loads of sex - is very straight. it's just a minotaur. it's a big guy with a big dick. it's your standard gentle giant/normal sized girl romance. it's not very freaky, but you know, I don't blame the average reader for coming into this thinking this is some out there stuff. gotta start somewhere, right? we didn't all come up through draco/the giant squid crackfic in 2005, you know? and now we've covered Sarah J Maas and we're entering omegaverse territory, this is getting knottier now, right, freakier? this article is going somewhere, right?
you can imagine the intrigue, enemies-to-lovers, and other story lines involved as each captured female eventually finds the member of the barbarian tribe who is destined to worship and fuck the living daylights out of her for the rest of their lives. Oh, and their dicks have a sensitive spur on top designed for clitoral stimulation. It’s just as blue and velvety as the rest of their big alien bodies.
okay so the minotaurs aliens are blue now, i guess.
It seems, also, like the romance genre as a whole is being pushed by monster romance to make things in human-human books as freaky as possible.
ohh?? are we finally getting a proper freak on now??
This genre, “why choose?” or “MMF” (or sometimes even MMMF or MMFM), and also known as “reverse harem,” always features a heroine who is showered with sexual attention by men who are also sexually involved with each other.
having a thousand yard stare moment over here
this author seriously thinks that all these heterofied monster romance tropes are paving the way for the real freaky stuff that is, checks notes, "two hockey players fucking each other while the heroine calls the shots"
this author is positing that human queer erotica/romance are freakier than monster erotica/romance. like. she said that. with her whole chest. black on white.
on one hand a monster, an inhuman being, and on the other, a queer person, a human being. and apparently the real freak is not the minotaur or the blue alien. it is the queer human.
is this satire? it has to be, right?
because if it's not satire, this article is an entire case study in itself on the monstering* of queer people. stunning.
*academic term
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chilly-weirdo-in-a-tomb · 8 months ago
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Alecto Prediction #11
We’ve seen through Corona that when people from the Houses join Blood of Eden, they receive a new Edenite name. We aren’t told who gave her the name Crown Him with Many Crowns in NTN, but I believe that we will find out that it was Pash. It makes sense if we think about which biblical figure Pash correlates to: John the Baptist. In baptism, a person is christened with a name, just like Corona was christened Crown. But John the Baptist is called the Baptist not just for baptizing the average Tom, Dick, and Harry. He also baptized Jesus. And we have a perfectly good lesbian Jesus ready in the wings to ask to be baptized.
This is why I believe that Gideon/Kiriona will join BoE and Pash will give her a new name.
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yourfaveisomegaverse · 1 year ago
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Sheldon from Big Bong Theory is an Alpha
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daenystheedreamer · 4 months ago
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We’re psychically linking hands because I read omegaverse the same way you read yaoi. Need to find a yuri observer to complete the circle
omfg omegaverse is so funny to read anytime they mention a celebrity off hand its like OKAY SO IS JIMMY FALON AN OMEGA>?? one mentioned trump and its like OKAY SO WHAT IS HEEEEEE you cant say oh my god in omegaverse because now i need you to explain to me the entire alt history of christianity if omegaverse was also there. obviously jesus was alpha and omega but what did the council of nicene and the popes have to say about omegas. was pope alexander an alpha was lucrezia borgia a bitch omega. what are the doctrinal differences on knotting between orthodox catholic and roman catholic. was martin luther mad about marian devotion because it treated omegas as other when in fact all are equal under the eyes of the lord. was judas a conniving beta
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soars22 · 10 months ago
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We’re uh… we’re not gonna survive this week without qsmp, are we?
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lavenderprose · 1 month ago
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The thing about Stede and Izzy is that they have lesbian sex. I don't care what their genders are. Stede and Izzy spontaneously create lesbian sex when they bang. Welcome to my brand new and improved miasma theory.
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omegaversetheory · 7 months ago
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hello!!! (⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠) I'm new to omegaverse, as in, I didn't know it was a thing 45 minutes ago new. i like angsty stuff, so when I searched for sad omegaverse fanfics, I found lots of stuff about 'Omega Rehabilitation Facilities'. The problem is, I can't figure out what that is (⁠T⁠T⁠)
would you maybe be able to explain what that is, please? it would be greatly appreciated :D (⁠^⁠^⁠)
hello!
omega rehabilitation facilities are places that omegas can go after experiencing trauma such as sexual abuse, homelessness, etc... Imagine a cross between a shelter and a community center that offers a slew of different resources.
peanut gallery, what other interpretations have you seen? help our asker out!
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beatingthedeadhorse · 1 year ago
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Omega-verse Theory - Genetic Path Always Meant to be
Evolutionary Next Step Theory
Perhaps, after centuries of slowed evolution, the human genome takes the next step, and modern Homo sapiens have to come to terms with no longer being the most advanced form of the species.
This could be explored in a variety of ways - perhaps the world initially believes it to be a form of genetic mutation that is isolated to an area, or some strange reaction to microplastics. perhaps they think they are infected in some way, only to open other human genetic codes and realise a latent form of this new populace exists in almost every place on earth. Perhaps the intermingling of different ethnicities, and evident improval in lifespans and livelihoods has allowed the human code to realise that it can simultaneously enforce reproduction, but create limitations and constraints at the same time. You can explore how older humans frantically try to comprehend, or villainize this new human being to protect themselves, or how these individuals cope with being so few among so many. Perhaps you can explore a long history of war and bloodshed that followed, leading to the world your characters now live in - safe and undisturbed, paid for on the backs of others.
The Lost Third Gender Theory
Perhaps ancient humans once had three genders, with or without the secondaries, and scientists have been scratching their heads as to all the references and relations to some mythical third being, or third 'god'. Maybe, as food becomes easier to access, as lives become longer, the genetic ability and secondary presentation that occurred once so long ago returns to modern humans, now that people live less separately from one another. You can have a lot of fun with myth and fable in this one - create whole societies long dead, or reimagine ones we already know of in this lens. Perhaps Rome fell for a different reason? Perhaps the poorness of medicine, and loss of infrastructure caused post collapse humans to lose this quirk, but regain it a thousand years later.
Whatever you decide to do, the possibilities for creating conflict, and differences in opinion between inworld scientists and religions can often be half the fun of it.
Loneliness Theory
After centuries of the modern world, of the way humans have migrated indoors, and thrown aside instinct and the outside world, after the enforcement of the isolated nuclear family, the genetic code experiences a blip. People start craving the touch, warmth and scent of others. They start being restless and unable to stay at home without company.
The sights and sounds of the city gradually become too much for heightening senses humanity doesn't even realise it has, and the cities experience a sudden exodus of the youth. And somewhere along the way, a group of scientists take a closer look and say; 'Hmm. Thats not good."
Maybe civil unrest grows as people struggle to deal with their new instincts, and struggle to survive the modern working day with their sanity intact. Maybe people become more and more territorial, and older generations suddenly wonder why so many people are being born with all of the anatomy - all of it.
It could be a slow change - a battle of inches. It could be a revolution - a series of fights so brutal the world has to sit up and pay attention and ask why. It could have been something that happened in the past, and the modern world in your story simply has to cope, or something only starting now. There are no rules, only that humanity can't take the modern loneliness anymore.
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spock-smokes-weed · 4 months ago
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I have a web comic in mind I wanna make that’s all about Zoro and Sanji becoming parents because I love soapy stuff like that. And I have an “arc” in mind where everyone in the pirate world hears about the first mate of the straw hat pirates getting knocked up and go “damn Luffy’s gonna be a father?” (as like a spin off gag of Sanji’s wanted posters)
So when the baby is finally born you have everyone wanting to come out to give their congratulations to Luffy, and then quickly finding out he’s not the father.
Well the people that get their first are Garp, Dragon, and Crocodile, because I think as Luffy’s absent family, they’d try to use this moment to “be there” for Luffy and his new family. But then it becomes a very awkward reunion when they learn the baby isn’t Luffy’s and they all made asses of themselves by not being in touch with Luffy enough to know that he wasn’t the father.
I think Crocodile would be especially awkward because he’s the most out of touch with Luffy and it’s very clear he still hasn’t unpacked how he feels about Luffy. And Zoro is already annoyed that Luffy’s family is overshadowing his labor and delivery, but I think he’d be particularly pissed off at Crocodile. Zoro never forgets, and it takes a lot for him to forgive, so he still hates Crocodile for Alabasta, and he can tell that Croc isn’t being fully sincere with his intentions with Luffy. 
Crocodile would also make his discomfort with being pregnant Zoro’s problem, and that would make steam start to come out of Zoro’s ears because he just wanted to relax with the crew and his new baby but now he has to deal with nightmare in-laws that aren’t even his.
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kenzietensei · 3 months ago
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Thoughts on sweet pool
So, I installed this game on my laptop a couple years ago, and only played about an hour into it at the time. This past week I was dogsitting and my laptop was with me, so I thought to play through the various endings of sweet pool.
I'd gotten the game because I read a tumblr post about the history of omegaverse, and I thought it would be interesting to see the origin of some of those tropes. I'm not into omegaverse, though I've read one or two fics using that setup. I'm not really into BL either, and most visual novels I've played have been otome or mystery stories. Also not a fan of gore or horror! So, uh, really not the audience for this title XD
Even so, I found the game compelling and it's been rotating in my brain the last few days since I got through the whole thing. There are a couple points in which I think my perspective might be unique so I figured I'd share. Spoilers below. If you're familiar with the plot, you'd also know what content warnings might apply here, so keep that in mind too >.>
First, I wanna go over some points I haven't really seen discussed/explicated anywhere that stuck out to me!
About the parasites:
The infodump that Kitani reads mentions markmeat, which I've seen reviews refer to as the stuff Youji passes. I'm pretty certain the fleshy bits are actually the fleshseeds and the markmeat is the 'bloodlike' pheromone which seeps out of Youji's neck.
The only people who can see this stuff is supposedly hosts. If you're a host, you'll become either Osu or Mesu. But it's unclear when that transition happens. Is it like a secondary puberty? Zenya's issues have been with him a long time, but he's also an unusual case. Tetsuo has had regenerative talent from childhood. Youji's accident was several years ago, but only very recently has he begun emitting pheromones.
There are at least two other people who can see these signs of the parasite who are unaffiliated with the cult as far as we know! There are rumors going around the school of blood and guts in the chem lab, and a separate rumor about blood and guts in the boys bathroom. Both incidents come about through a male student becoming alarmed and upset upon seeing something no one else can confirm is there. If it had been the same kid, I think the rumors would go a little differently (aka such and such has gone mad, that sort of thing) so I think its fair to say that more than one boy is effected. This indicates these boys are hosts, and also that they don't know about the biological aspects, at the absolute least.
Who are these kids? Are they children who were exposed like Zenya was? If they knew about the cult, they probably wouldn't have freaked out in public, so they're uninitiated and possibly not experiencing any symptoms (IE the way Youji was?). Receiving purebreed flesh is the only way we really see discussed for becoming a host, but then how did Tetsuo develop? Do some people just inherit this from their parents?
Speaking of inheritance, Youji's situation introduces some questions too. He seems to have been physically passed along his father's parasite during the accident... like it entered his wound and this ultimately revived/remade him. Whether Youji was going to eventually develop into a host through inheriting that in a different way, had the accident never occurred, isn't discussed. In the pool, Youji can will himself to do the same for Tetsuo - so did his parasite enter Tetsuo? Taken with the state Youji is in during that epilogue, it's pretty vague what happened. But should we take that to mean that a new parasite melding into the body of a host can revive them?
We are given a decent idea of what Osu and Mesu are. But there seem to be others involved with the cult who aren't dealing with these same symptoms. Kamiya is around high school boys every day and not driving any of them mad. Kunihito couldn't see the Sodomites until after he was shot - even though his family were long time participants in the cult. Furthermore, had either of them been Osu, wouldn't they have been interested to learn of Youji the Mesu? So, are they hosts? Interestingly, there's a moment in the school with Kunihito that makes me really wonder. Kitani interacts with his boss, who is alive (even though narration from Youji earlier seemed to indicate Kunihito had died) for the moment. Then Kitani sees a wriggler entering a wound, and it seems to be attached firmly. He rips it away and shoots it, and then next thing you know, Kunihito is dead. Was that his parasite, keeping him alive, or a new Sodomite trying to enter as a parasite and then reform Kunihito's body? Did Kitani's actions here actually doom his boss?
Can you have a host and then lose it? Might Zenya's state have been fixed by removing the inner being? As a fierce believer, it's obvious why Kunihito wouldn't have opted to do that, though. But I feel like the grand ending suggests that Tetsuo has lost this aspect of himself in the epilogue. He takes a long time to heal, after all. Perhaps in wishing they could live together as humans, Youji caused their parasites to detach?
The whole situation with Youji is so bizarre. He's perpetually weak with a lung disorder, lives barely nourishing himself, and experiences numerous intense injuries over the course of like 2 weeks while undergoing debilitating physical changes. I get why, bereft of regenerative abilities, he would die at the end of the plot.
I think the violins version of Miracles May suggests Youji succeeds in saving Tetsuo at the cost of himself. And the grand ending seems to say that in rejecting the Sodomites, in not sacrificing himself for Tetsuo, Youji does not get his wish in full - he wants to live on with Tetsuo as humans, which I think only half works (Tetsuo managed to pull through after being wounded), and Tetsuo speaks his name one last time, but I don't think Youji is truly around anymore. But I feel like Tetsuo is a human at this point. And perhaps Youji died as a human, too. I just don't get why there was an attempt to cover up his passing? Like the scandal at the academy is already pretty bad, wouldn't it make enough sense to say two students stopped into the school that day and both were accosted by the yakuza and one of them perished? It seems like it's vague just to confuse the audience.
About the characters:
Was Makoto sensitive to the pheromones just cause he happened to be? Or like was it because he was attracted to men that the pheromone could harm him like that? Because I feel like either reading is supported by the text. At what point, removed from the impact of the pheromones, would Makoto regain his sanity? He seems himself when we see him in the hospital. But in his ending, a week has passed since Youji disappeared. We can't know how long it's been since only bones remain - like at what point will the Mesu pheromones no longer be present in Makoto's system? He seems to be still outside his own control at the close of his story.
On endings, it's pointed out that purebreeds can use pheromones to control even normal people. But the degree of *control* is something I wonder about. Like, Youji's pheromones elicited control over others, chaining them to a desire beyond their own sanity. But Youji isn't the one holding the leash, so to speak. Tetsuo's scent also caused this to happen to Youji. And like, the ending where they breed & the prominence of instinct in that route suggests that this final choice is something they submit to rather than a choice they make under their own rational control. So I wonder about the purebreeds ability to control others... is it an active ability, or does it elicit an instinctual response in others?
We see the lump of flesh that Kunihito worships, and from his uncle's journal we know he was once a captivating young man. But he "gave too much of himself to his followers" and now is a weakened flesh slab... Honestly this whole bit of the journal is super suspect. It's phrased like that was a thing the purebreed did of it's own volition, but I don't think we're supposed to accept that at face value. As more of it's flesh was taken, it became weaker - so weak, that members of the organization were sufficiently outside of it's "control" to act on a revolt. Up to that point, was the cult compelled to consume the purebreed's flesh, regardless of it's wishes, due to it's outrageous pheromones? Or did the purebreed willingly give of itself but go to far and tipped the balance of control outside it's own favor? Could the cult have failed at this moment, and prevented the events of the story from ever coming to pass? It seems like there are other purebreeds elsewhere in the world, though, or have been throughout history, so I don't know that the japanese branch falling would end the Sodomites' bid to live on.
Uncle Okinaga can't explain why he tried to protect the purebreed, only that he was compelled to do so in remembering the boy's smile. In one route, Kitani encounters the newborn purebreed. Is he a slave from this point on? Will Kitani end up feeding on the purebreed? It's an uncomfortable question I was left with.
Speaking of Kitani, I feel really mixed about him. On the one hand, he is sympathetic. His shit childhood leads to him forming a traumatic bond with Kunihito. This is actually one of the most upsetting moments of the game, for me! Lol moreso than the gore, tbh. He's at his lowest moment, his body is failing, and this powerful man comes and exerts that power over him through assault. Kitani's instincts take over (he struggles to live). Kunihito says, work for me, you might as well die for a purpose... It really mirrors what happens to Youji so strongly! Like, Youji's connection to Tetsuo is in many ways just the same as this - he is overpowered by Tetsuo, and in the horror of his changing biology, Youji finds that being accepted as he is to be worth the discomforting aspects of the bond. Kitani likewise accepts the worst aspects of the Okinaga family as the price for having a place and a people to belong to. It isn't a loyalty earned through goodness or affection. In the Diving Deep ending, Kitani is said to feel aimless and purposeless without his family, and it seems like he might not care about living any longer. We see in different endings Youji submit his own life to the cost of a 'higher purpose,' whether that be procreation or saving Tetsuo. Ultimately, I don't think either of these men really formed healthy attachments to others and it is worthy of sympathy.
On the other hand! Kitani has committed himself to the Okinaga family, to the point that his support of them is more instinctual than rational choice. He knows it's abnormal, but he still goes ahead and does the eyeball thing, supports Kunihito's religious fervor, never intervenes in anything they've got going on (until the point comes where outside forces - Kamiya - threaten his family). He feels horrible about hurting women and children, but he beats a high schooler on orders from Zenya, and helps Zenya kidnap Tetsuo and Youji. Like, I think he'd already looked into Youji's background at this point, so once Zenya's done with Youji for the time being, Kitani knowingly dumps this frail, frequently hospitalized boy who has just undergone a brutal beating in the trash disposal area of the house where he lives alone with no one to care for him. That is abhorrent. Then, he helps Zenya kidnap this same boy a second time, at which point the boy is kept as a sex slave. Kitani is not in the dark about this - he is an adult and knows both Kunihito and Zenya are mentally unstable, and that these actions are not only harmful or illegal, but seriously jeopardize Youji's life. And then, the real kicker? Zenya really loved it when Kitani sewed Kristi a lil yukata to match Zenya's outfit. So, Kitani dutifully makes his new pet, Youji, an outfit as well! I'm sure seeing Zenya so happy really made it all worth it, huh Kitani?
About my feelings:
So, I played this game at a point in time where I was actively on my period lol I still am right now as a matter of fact. And although I initially started it earlier before this was part of my life, in the interim time I had bariatric surgery and have developed a different relationship to food, hunger, my biology, and the often uncomfortable bowel changes that came with it.
It's horrible, but my partner didn't flinch away from the hard truths that came with major surgery. We've had to discuss diarrhea and incontinence and foul gas. Early on, there were days I thought I would die of embarrassment, but he loved me regardless. Thankfully, the biggest problems of the early days are mostly a thing of the past, but it's not something I'm liable to ever forget. I felt so bad for Youji, going through something that altered him intrinsically like that, with no one to support him. When he takes Tetsuo's actions to be unconditional acceptance of his mortifying biology, this leads Youji to bond with the man at the expense of his own being. He becomes subsumed into this bond. Had Erika's situation been different at the time, I don't think Youji would have clung to Tetsuo's lack of repulsion as if it were love.
Further, I felt a kinship to Youji's difficulty feeding himself that was absolutely absent the first time I played any of the game. Having been through a great deal of nausea, food repulsion, and experiencing my body at it's weakest, I was just as worried about his health as before but more sympathetic to the forces at play than last time.
As for the menstrual aspect, I can totally vibe with the idea that this bodily change is a repulsive, dirty, shame-inducing experience which alienates a person from their peers and from their own body. When I'm on my period, I do feel like my body is outside of my control, and knowing it's for a function (childbirth) isn't some welcome news. Like I have to put aside myself as an individual person (mind) to deal with the realities of my form (woman) for the time being, and it's jarring and uncomfortable. In this regard, I feel the reason vs instinct system is so well supported by the story's themes!
Also, uh, as someone who has experienced painful sex, anal sex, and painful anal sex in my life, the sex scenes were pretty intense to play through. Like the agony is well written and Youji's lack of consent is ever present. When he becomes aroused, it is not treated as if that is equivalent to consent, which I especially appreciated as this is something of a problem when it comes to discussing the rape of men in particular. Even when Youji is participating in sexual interaction, the way the biological aspect has been laid out, with the pheromones and everything, makes consent not really possible. While Youji comes to feel a bond with Tetsuo, it is due to their biology moreso than a romantic connection, and this seems like something borne from the need to mate rather than driven by who they are as *people.*
I do think it's interesting that this game is so focused on biological functions. The drive to breed, which in some species does indeed come at the expense of the parents' lives, is only one thread of this theme. The need to nourish oneself is definitely very present. And then digestion and expelling waste comes into play in a highly unusual way, lol. I found the mention of the myrmecoleon to be thematically resonant and perplexing at the same time. From Kamiya's comments, each half is biologically at odds with the other. I wondered how this was meant to be taken in conjunction with the story. Like, Youji doesn't eat, but he produces this new flesh and passes it - the flesh seeds are not a product of what he takes in. And it doesn't seem like not eating is enough to kill Youji based on what we see. But Kamiya's statement that maybe one end could survive if it would reject the other is kind of weird. You can read it as saying one part can survive - either the reasonable part of the being (the human) or the instinctual aspect (the parasite). There is no fusion of the two possible, no coexistence. It makes enough sense in regards to Youji, but it's a little confusing if you try to apply it to the Osu-Mesu pairing (two halves of a whole). I kind of felt that it was saying only one of the two could have their wishes fulfilled/their needs respected. Since Youji is getting raped all the time, I thought that's what Kamiya was getting at, at first. And if you take it to the breeding stuff, it is also confusing, Kamiya! What we see of their copulation, producing a purebreed is very much a matter of fusion, so it reads at odds with the myrmecoleon bit. If you see the lion and the ant as humans and Sodomites in their separate species, that's also kinda weird. I think its meant to represent that the hosts are these third kinds of beings - both ant and lion - and that their existence is at odds with both parts of their biology. It really leaves me wondering how the hosts and purebreeds thing is supposed to accomplish anything for the Sodomites. It's not clear what they're gaining from this, though it also isn't clear that any alternative is available to them. The drive to exist is strong enough that they must attempt to continue the species, no matter what indignities it requires, I guess?
Overall, I left the game feeling very unsettled (the music is SO effective, omfg) and on edge. Hopefully having written out my thoughts will help me to move on from sweet pool!! Can't really say I'm glad I played it - I was curious about how it related to omegaverse and it was indeed fascinating to see the root of those tropes being developed - but it didn't do anything for me in that doki-doki kind of way and left me more agitated than moved by its emotional stuff. I do think it was very well written, and well conceived, and well produced. I'd love to talk about it with other people, though I doubt I'd ever play it again or be likely to recommend it.
Thanks for reading this crazy long post :3
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itsanidiom · 1 year ago
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Since there is nary an Omega in sight I must say the Pit Babe Omegaverse is coming off a bit…Alphaverse…
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Let’s gooooo~ We are now two (2) episodes into Pit Babe, and I still have no idea what is going on with this version of Omegaverse. BUT I have some ✨theories✨
Theory #1:
Since there are no Omegas or Betas so far, I think that “Alpha” is positioned as an umbrella type of superhuman subspecies.
There are “regular Alphas” who seem to have some pheromones, and some Alpha’s who do not, like Charlie. None of these Alphas seem to have particularly specific abilities.
Then there are the “special Alphas”, like Babe. They’ve got specific heightened sense abilities and they’re hyper-sexual (?).
Now some Alphas also seem to have some kind of strength ability, as demonstrated by Charlie in episode two, but we could also chalk that up to the character just being strong, so not sure what’s going on there.
Anyway, the bottom line is that apart from the use of the word Alpha, I don’t feel like this is Omegaverse. It feels like elements of Omegaverse have been taken and implemented into a different thing. One notable reason is that, in Omegaverse, usually an Alpha/Alpha pairing would be in some way seen as controversial, but here it’s not. And we’ve gotten brief mentions of pheromones and one mention of hormones and menopause, but that felt more like a sexist joke than a in-verse suggestion that Babe, an Alpha, can get pregnant (?).
At the end of the day, if you took “Alpha” in this case and replaced it with “Super”, the plot could stay the same it would just be a made up “Super” subspecies.
That’s all I got for now…But I’ll be on the lookout for the elusive Omega to show up in the Pit Babe Omegaverse. 👀
Theory #2:
The vocabulary is just off (?). In a regular Omegaverse these characters’ subspecies would read as:
Alpha = Submissive Alpha
Special Alpha = Dominant Omega
Normal = Beta
Thinking about their dynamics this way might help, but no one really subscribes to any traditional Omegaverse archetypes? Again need to wait and see. 👀
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crushed-velvet-omegaverse · 8 months ago
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Welcome, Overview & Navigation
Under consistent development~
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Hello, my friends and welcome ! My name is Nor and my pronouns are she/it/he interchangeably !
p.s. while i base quite a lot of my headcannons off of the common variations of the omegaverse - most of the following headcannons are of my own creation !
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Ok, so starting from the beginning:
In the Omegaverse / A/B/O universe there is, in addition to “regular” sex and gender, a secondary sex/secondary gender(s). These are what I call Classification’s.
These Classifications are as followed:
All of these traits depend on the individual but they are the most common.
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Alpha-Centric: about 28% of the population. Often in positions of power, always stronger and occasionally taller than Betas and Omegas, higher energy (comparatively), brash, protective of their own & their possessions. Alphas also go through Ruts.
Alpha • True Alphas are the epitome of the strong, dominant, pack leader attitude.
Iota • In comparison to True Alphas, Iotas are more motherly but still quite brash.
Sigma • Sigmas have much weaker urges and instincts.
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Beta-centric: about 30% of the population, larger than Omegas but smaller than Alphas (relatively), amazing at purring, good pack mates.
Beta • True Betas are not just neutral. Betas have specific scents/behaviors/traditions, they’re the best classification at purring, very adaptable.
Delta • Deltas are Betas with some Alpha urges.
Gamma • Gammas are Betas with some Omega urges.
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Omega-centric: about 23% of the population. On average they’re smaller than both Alphas and Betas. Often they end up as parents or homemakers. They go through Heats.
Omega • True Omegas are what you think of when you think A/B/O. Parental, submissive, defferant to their mate.
Zeta • In comparison to True Omegas, Zetas are more dominant - still not as much as Alpha variants but they’re on the level of a Sigma or powerful Beta variant.
Theta • Thetas have much weaker urges and instincts.
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Kappa • about 8% of the population. Kappa’s are individuals with dual secondary gender’s - essentially they’re switches. For instance an Alpha-Beta or a Gamma-Delta could simply call themselves the all encompassing Kappa.
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Epsilon • about 11% of the population. Epsilon’s are the only man-made secondary gender. Epsilons occur when someone takes enough suppressors that they loose their original instincts, urges, and scent.
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Navigation:
to be linked~
Mates
Scenting
Suppressors & Pharmaceuticals
Nesting
Presenting
Pups
Heats & Ruts
Pack Hierarchy
Genetics
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Everything will be fleshed out eventually! Please let me know if you have ideas or questions!
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Tag list:
#velvet reblogs -> general reblogs
#velvet theory -> other peoples headcannons that I’ve adopted or expanded on
#velvet axiom -> my personal universe
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fluff-writing · 4 months ago
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Sudden mating fever in High Heaven and Santuary. Run your imagination wild xD and for more fun cantakerous meet omegaverse? :D
Okay the funny thing is
This was a thing for Fluffy Angels. They didn't have heats or anything. Once every year or so they had a big orgy and then the Arch created a feedback loop of Light Energy so that both It and The Angels could spawn.
Hell learned the hard way to leave Heaven the heck alone when the angels were multiplying. Everyone is already high on lust-rage, plus over-alert due to the Arch's vulnerability, and cockblocking half the populace is just bad strategy all around.
(A few lucky 'cubi have gotten themselves roped into the whole mess a few times. When mating fever his the Dimension of Hair, no one is safe.)
Roughly half of all nephalem inherited the Yearly Banging Instinct, including one bird-Rat. He and Muffy had lots of fun every October. Kalan made very sure to give them ample time and space to be nasty without interruption.
Cantankerous and Omegaverse are kinda on opposite ends of the seriousness spectrum. One is pure crack + smut, the other is my longfic that I try to keep relatively serious. CantankerRat might be vaguely interested in the biological differences between the dimensions, but he's also busy trying to kill his mother and doesn't have time to get involved in that nonsense. Mat barely knows what a penis is. Remember, angels in Cantankerous are strictly asexual, and reproduce by way of Arch unless demons are involved (and even then, Lilith just bled some Mysterious Light Goo out of Inarius and used that to implant a baby in herself. She's a real go-getter.) Rat hasn't gotten around to giving Malthael The Talk on account of the whole Matricide thing. Alpha-Rat would try, and likely confuse poor Mat even more than usual. Omega-Malthael is laughing at all of them.
If we stick Cantankerous Inarius and Beta-Inarius in a room together long enough they will hatch a plan to detonate Sanctuary. Doesn't matter which Sanctuary. Heaven too while they're at it. And Hell. Actually, throw all of reality away, they're starting everything over from the top.
If Cantankerous Lilith and Alpha-Lilith enter a room together, only one is leaving that room alive.
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